Question about DLL search directories

[Guest void.no.spam.com@gmail.com]

In recent versions of Windows, the following order is used to search

for a DLL that an application wants to load:

 

1) the directory from which the application loaded

2) the system directory

3) the 16-bit system directory

4) the Windows directory

5) the current directory

6) the directories that are listed in the PATH environment variable

 

Prior to Windows XP SP2, the current directory was searched second

(before the system directory), but that was changed for security

purposes.

 

But can someone explain to me how the current directory could ever

contain DLLs that the program needs, if the current directory is

different from the other directories listed above? Seems like if a

program needs DLLs, then they will be located in either the

application directory (or one of its subdirectories) or in the system

directories. Why would the current directory need to be searched at

all?

[Guest Dave Patrick]

Re: Question about DLL search directories

 

HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager

set the value of 'SafeDllSearchMode' to 1 to alter this behavior.

 

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms682586.aspx

 

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<void.no.spam.com@gmail.com> wrote:

> In recent versions of Windows, the following order is used to search

> for a DLL that an application wants to load:

>

> 1) the directory from which the application loaded

> 2) the system directory

> 3) the 16-bit system directory

> 4) the Windows directory

> 5) the current directory

> 6) the directories that are listed in the PATH environment variable

>

> Prior to Windows XP SP2, the current directory was searched second

> (before the system directory), but that was changed for security

> purposes.

>

> But can someone explain to me how the current directory could ever

> contain DLLs that the program needs, if the current directory is

> different from the other directories listed above? Seems like if a

> program needs DLLs, then they will be located in either the

> application directory (or one of its subdirectories) or in the system

> directories. Why would the current directory need to be searched at

> all?

>

[Guest void.no.spam.com@gmail.com]

Re: Question about DLL search directories

 

On Jul 11, 11:18 pm, "Dave Patrick" <DSPatr...@nospam.gmail.com>

wrote:

> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager

> set the value of 'SafeDllSearchMode' to 1 to alter this behavior.

>

> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms682586.aspx

 

Yes, but I'm trying to learn why an application would ever need to

search the current directory. Wouldn't any DLL that an application

would need be located in either its application directory (or a subdir

of that) or one of the system directories?

[Guest Dave Patrick]

Re: Question about DLL search directories

 

May also depend on DLL registrations. Really a question for the application

developer.

 

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<void.no.spam.com@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, but I'm trying to learn why an application would ever need to

> search the current directory. Wouldn't any DLL that an application

> would need be located in either its application directory (or a subdir

> of that) or one of the system directories?

>

[Guest cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)]

Re: Question about DLL search directories

 

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:15:06 -0700, "void.no.spam.com@gmail.com"

>In recent versions of Windows, the following order is used to search

>for a DLL that an application wants to load:

 

0) In-memory copy (i.e. if the .DLL is already loaded)

>1) the directory from which the application loaded

>2) the system directory

>3) the 16-bit system directory

>4) the Windows directory

>5) the current directory

>6) the directories that are listed in the PATH environment variable

>Prior to Windows XP SP2, the current directory was searched second

>(before the system directory), but that was changed for security

>purposes.

 

The same concern might apply to order of elements in %Path%.

>But can someone explain to me how the current directory could ever

>contain DLLs that the program needs, if the current directory is

>different from the other directories listed above?

 

I think it depends on how you define "the directory from which the

application loaded". A formal installation may populate the registry

with such settings, which may be absent if the app is one that has

been scraped over, distributed as an un-automated "extract and run"

..ZIP, or otherwise does not need integration.

 

But I agree with you; the dir I'd look in is the dir where the primary

executable was located, not the directory that was current.

 

For example, I may launch C:\SomePath\RunMe.exe via a shortcut that

sets the current folder to C:\Somewhere\Else, or I may invoke the

program via a file association to process C:\Somewhere\Else\Data.xyz

 

In both cases, the dir to expect related .DLL would be C:\SomePath,

and not C:\Somewhere\Else - and it is really hard to think of a

context where one would want to find and use .DLL in the latter.

>Seems like if a program needs DLLs, then they will be located in

>either the application directory (or one of its subdirectories) or in

>the system directories. Why would the current directory need to

>be searched at all?

 

One clue suggests itself; "(or one of its subdirectories)". There is,

or should be, no searching in subdirectories for .DLLs, and yet you

could contrive the situation where common .DLLs are in a base

directory set as "current", while the actual programs being launched

are in subdirectories of this, or elsewhere.

 

In practice, you may find most .DLL are explicitly pathed via registry

settings - which is another potential can of worms.

 

 

 

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