Guest surface9 Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 This may seem a bit confusing - it shouldn't. I have my win2k pro (sp4) system installed onto my ATA C: drive which happens to be mounted within one of those removable h/d mounting brackets - after shutdwon I can unkey and remove this h/d from the system completely. If I boot up wih this h/d unplugged, then all that win2k sees is the the primary DMA channel (master) is not connected. I have a brand new SATA drive which I have formatted the same as my C: drive (FAT32). If I boot up wihout my C: drive, the system tries to find a bootable disk elsewhere, and, if I could makte this SATA drive bootable, it would work from it. So, instead of having to go through and *REINSTALL* each and every little detail (I have my current C: drive just the way I want it - takes quite a while!), I would like to somehow make my SATA drive look just like my C: drive (to the system) so that if I boot up with my C; drive unplugged, it will go ahead and boot from my SATA drive and it will behave just like my current C: drive does. Is that possible? It shoud be (my opinion), but, does anyone know a straightforward way to make my SATA drive JUST LIKE my current C: dirve? I know that in windwos 98SE this can be accomplished very easily with the XCOPY32 command (from C: to D: using the /E/H/R/K/C/D switches. But this command only works in windows 98SE - is there something like that for win2k (and also winxp)?
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: Switching to a new C: drive (XP also) "surface9" <davsf@neto.com> wrote in message news:1184895838.462933.185460@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > This may seem a bit confusing - it shouldn't. > > I have my win2k pro (sp4) system installed onto my ATA C: drive which > happens to be mounted within one of those removable h/d mounting > brackets - after shutdwon I can unkey and remove this h/d from the > system completely. If I boot up wih this h/d unplugged, then all that > win2k sees is the the primary DMA channel (master) is not connected. > > I have a brand new SATA drive which I have formatted the same as my C: > drive (FAT32). If I boot up wihout my C: drive, the system tries to > find a bootable disk elsewhere, and, if I could makte this SATA drive > bootable, it would work from it. > > So, instead of having to go through and *REINSTALL* each and every > little detail (I have my current C: drive just the way I want it - > takes quite a while!), I would like to somehow make my SATA drive look > just like my C: drive (to the system) so that if I boot up with my C; > drive unplugged, it will go ahead and boot from my SATA drive and it > will behave just like my current C: drive does. > > Is that possible? It shoud be (my opinion), but, does anyone know a > straightforward way to make my SATA drive JUST LIKE my current C: > dirve? > > I know that in windwos 98SE this can be accomplished very easily with > the XCOPY32 command (from C: to D: using the /E/H/R/K/C/D switches. > But this command only works in windows 98SE - is there something like > that for win2k (and also winxp)? > If I understand you correctly then you're asking about cloning your existing IDE disk. This can be achieved in several ways: - Use the cloning tool that many disk manufacturers make available on their home site. - Use an imaging product such as Acronis TrueImage. - Install both disks as slave disks in some other machine, then use xcopy.exe with these switches: /s /e /y /o - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, then use xcopy.exe as above. BTW, your memory is tricking you. Win98 would never let you clone a disk with xcopy32.exe. Its registry files were locked and could not be copied while Windows was up and running.
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: Switching to a new C: drive (XP also) "surface9" <davsf@neto.com> wrote in message news:1184895838.462933.185460@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > This may seem a bit confusing - it shouldn't. > > I have my win2k pro (sp4) system installed onto my ATA C: drive which > happens to be mounted within one of those removable h/d mounting > brackets - after shutdwon I can unkey and remove this h/d from the > system completely. If I boot up wih this h/d unplugged, then all that > win2k sees is the the primary DMA channel (master) is not connected. > > I have a brand new SATA drive which I have formatted the same as my C: > drive (FAT32). If I boot up wihout my C: drive, the system tries to > find a bootable disk elsewhere, and, if I could makte this SATA drive > bootable, it would work from it. > > So, instead of having to go through and *REINSTALL* each and every > little detail (I have my current C: drive just the way I want it - > takes quite a while!), I would like to somehow make my SATA drive look > just like my C: drive (to the system) so that if I boot up with my C; > drive unplugged, it will go ahead and boot from my SATA drive and it > will behave just like my current C: drive does. > > Is that possible? It shoud be (my opinion), but, does anyone know a > straightforward way to make my SATA drive JUST LIKE my current C: > dirve? > > I know that in windwos 98SE this can be accomplished very easily with > the XCOPY32 command (from C: to D: using the /E/H/R/K/C/D switches. > But this command only works in windows 98SE - is there something like > that for win2k (and also winxp)? > I forgot to say that the new disk must be partitioned and formatted under Win2000/XP in order to have the correct MBR.
Guest surface9 Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: Switching to a new C: drive (XP also) On Jul 20, 12:19 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote: > "surface9" <> > If I understand you correctly then you're asking about cloning > your existing IDE disk. This can be achieved in several ways: > > - Use the cloning tool that many disk manufacturers make > available on their home site. > - Use an imaging product such as Acronis TrueImage. > - Install both disks as slave disks in some other machine, > then use xcopy.exe with these switches: /s /e /y /o > - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, then use > xcopy.exe as above. > > BTW, your memory is tricking you. Win98 would never > let you clone a disk with xcopy32.exe. Its registry files > were locked and could not be copied while Windows > was up and running I didn't know about the "locked" registry. But I do know that xcopy32 does indeed "clone" a C: drrve to D: (or E: or F:, etc.) and make the clone bootable. I have done it many many times (as recently as a couple of days ago. Here is the command: xcopy32 c:\*.* d:\*.* /e/h/r/k/c/d You execute this command from a DOS BOX (command prompt) within windows - NOT "reboot to dos mode". If you have a minimal windows install (aroun 6 gigs), you can complete it in about 6 mintues. Then you can swap disks and your CLONE will boot exactly like the original. I have done this so many times I coined a name for it - I call it "using 'erkidy' (a mnemonic of the switches). I will try your suggestion, but, do you have specific website that has a tool your are talking about? My SATA drive cannot be slaved on any of my other machines because they are all much older (win98se jobbies), and I am just now advancing to win2000 (and winxp) and I reallly miss my ERKIDY. Having to go through the many program installs (after the initial windwos 2000 (XP) installl is a reall bumer - I did it already today and I don't want to have to keep doing that over and over again every time I have a new h/d. I'll use the "clone" keydword in my new search, but, if you have a specific webstie, please post. Thanks, littleberry
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Re: Switching to a new C: drive (XP also) "surface9" <davsf@neto.com> wrote in message news:1184911485.293444.224850@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 20, 12:19 am, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote: >> "surface9" <> >> If I understand you correctly then you're asking about cloning >> your existing IDE disk. This can be achieved in several ways: >> >> - Use the cloning tool that many disk manufacturers make >> available on their home site. >> - Use an imaging product such as Acronis TrueImage. >> - Install both disks as slave disks in some other machine, >> then use xcopy.exe with these switches: /s /e /y /o >> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, then use >> xcopy.exe as above. >> >> BTW, your memory is tricking you. Win98 would never >> let you clone a disk with xcopy32.exe. Its registry files >> were locked and could not be copied while Windows >> was up and running > > I didn't know about the "locked" registry. But I do know that xcopy32 > does indeed "clone" a C: drrve to D: (or E: or F:, etc.) and make the > clone bootable. > I have done it many many times (as recently as a couple of days ago. > Here is the command: > > xcopy32 c:\*.* d:\*.* /e/h/r/k/c/d > > You execute this command from a DOS BOX (command prompt) within > windows - NOT "reboot to dos mode". If you have a minimal windows > install (aroun 6 gigs), you can complete it in about 6 mintues. Then > you can swap disks and your CLONE will boot exactly like the > original. I have done this so many times I coined a name for it - I > call it "using 'erkidy' (a mnemonic of the switches). > > I will try your suggestion, but, do you have specific website that has > a tool your are talking about? My SATA drive cannot be slaved on any > of my other machines because they are all much older (win98se > jobbies), and I am just now advancing to win2000 (and winxp) and I > reallly miss my ERKIDY. Having to go through the many program > installs (after the initial windwos 2000 (XP) installl is a reall > bumer - I did it already today and I don't want to have to keep doing > that over and over again every time I have a new h/d. > > I'll use the "clone" keydword in my new search, but, if you have a > specific webstie, please post. > > Thanks, littleberry > Look for the cloning tool on the home site of the manufacturer of YOUR hard disk. You will find lots of references for a Bart PE boot CD. It's a very powerful tool but it takes time to make one. Look for TrueImage on the Acronis home site.
Guest Joshua Bolton Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 RE: Switching to a new C: drive (XP also) clone c: to the sata drive pull c: set bios to boot sata after the ata if possible boot the w2k cd and do a repair install while adding the sata driver [if a w2k version exist or you won't be able to boot it] Between the repair which added the sata drive as boot and the bios setting you should be able to do as you desire.
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