Slow copying of files

[Guest James R]

We have a problem copying files from Windows Server 2003 64-bit to our local

desktops running Windows XP. For a large number of the desktops, a file copy

of 60 Mb from the server to the local drive can take about 30 minutes to

complete. For other desktops of the same OS, the same file can be copied in

about 5 seconds. For the ones the copy slowly, they can copy that same file

from a Windows 2003 32-bit server or another desktop in 5 seconds. We have

even moved PCs around to swap the network ports used and the problem follows

the PC. We have standardized our desktop and server hardware so the problem

should point to something in the software. There is something fouling up the

communications between some of our Windows XPs and Windows 2003 64-bit and we

are running out of ideas as to what to check. Any tips on what to look at?

[Guest Juergen Kluth]

Re: Slow copying of files

 

Hi,

you could have a look for different tcp/ip settings on the x32 and x64

server especially if NETBIOS over TCP/IP has the same settings (on) which

helps generally for smb/cifs filesharing.

second :

you can have a look for differences on local security settings (dont know

english label) -via : start -> managment -> local security police???

or:

if the servers work as domain controler "security police for domain

controllers"

 

in these settings look for "digital signing ????"

 

regards jk

[Guest jabloomf1230]

Re: Slow copying of files

 

Have you tried robocopy? It comes with Vista, but can also be extracted

from the Windows Resource Toolkit. There is also a freeware GUI for it:

 

http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/RoboCopy-GUI-Download-35338.html

 

robocopy is a MS product and the name stands for robust copy. There are

no frills and it is lightening fast. Well, okay, maybe not THAT fast,

but it is a lot faster than using the Windows explorer which is deathly

slow for copying either large files or large numbers of files. I use it

all the time on my Vista x64 system (so it must be x64 compatible)for

copying folders of big AVI files around my network. There are also 3rd

party programs that do the same thing.

 

Windows Resource Toolkit download for Windows Server 2003:

 

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9D467A69-57FF-4AE7-96EE-B18C4790CFFD&displaylang=en

 

James R wrote:

> We have a problem copying files from Windows Server 2003 64-bit to our local

> desktops running Windows XP. For a large number of the desktops, a file copy

> of 60 Mb from the server to the local drive can take about 30 minutes to

> complete. For other desktops of the same OS, the same file can be copied in

> about 5 seconds. For the ones the copy slowly, they can copy that same file

> from a Windows 2003 32-bit server or another desktop in 5 seconds. We have

> even moved PCs around to swap the network ports used and the problem follows

> the PC. We have standardized our desktop and server hardware so the problem

> should point to something in the software. There is something fouling up the

> communications between some of our Windows XPs and Windows 2003 64-bit and we

> are running out of ideas as to what to check. Any tips on what to look at?

[Guest Tom Ferguson]

Re: Slow copying of files

 

This might contain something applicable:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/

 

Tom

MSMVP

Windows shell/User

 

 

"James R" <James R@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:299C99F9-1B66-464E-AA2C-27D4937F6D2C@microsoft.com...

> We have a problem copying files from Windows Server 2003 64-bit to our

> local

> desktops running Windows XP. For a large number of the desktops, a file

> copy

> of 60 Mb from the server to the local drive can take about 30 minutes

> to

> complete. For other desktops of the same OS, the same file can be

> copied in

> about 5 seconds. For the ones the copy slowly, they can copy that same

> file

> from a Windows 2003 32-bit server or another desktop in 5 seconds. We

> have

> even moved PCs around to swap the network ports used and the problem

> follows

> the PC. We have standardized our desktop and server hardware so the

> problem

> should point to something in the software. There is something fouling

> up the

> communications between some of our Windows XPs and Windows 2003 64-bit

> and we

> are running out of ideas as to what to check. Any tips on what to look

> at?

[Guest Homer J. Simpson]

Re: Slow copying of files

 

> This might contain something applicable:

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/

 

Tom,

 

While I agree that sometimes a KB article for an OS might apply to another

(registry tweaks, etc), in this case, the article points you to a hotfix.

Are you suggesting the original poster tries to install a Vista hotfix on

XP/2003??

[Guest Tom Ferguson]

Re: Slow copying of files

 

OK. You caught me. I was just skimming subject lines before moving on to

other, pressing matters when I spotted this post. Since I recently had

reason to apply the hotfix to several Vista boxes, I thought it worth

pointing to it. In fairness, you must admit that I cautioned, "This might

contain something applicable". Note the "might". Now that I did read the

body of the post, I agree that there is no danger of relevance of that

particular fix.

 

As for, "install a Vista hotfix on XP/2003??" Aren't you a silly one!

Ha!

 

--------------

You posted this 5/15/2007 in this forum:

 

that'll make you feel superior to Microsoft by pointing out their

stupidity.

 

Personally, I'd just click the button and carry on with my life, but hey,

it's a free world

 

-------------

 

Hmmmm. I think I'll take your good advice.

 

 

Tom

MSMVP

Windows Shell/User

 

 

 

"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message

news:edNYyld1HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> This might contain something applicable:

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/

>

> Tom,

>

> While I agree that sometimes a KB article for an OS might apply to

> another (registry tweaks, etc), in this case, the article points you to

> a hotfix. Are you suggesting the original poster tries to install a

> Vista hotfix on XP/2003??

>

[Guest Homer J. Simpson]

Re: Slow copying of files

 

> OK. You caught me. I was just skimming subject lines before moving on to

> other, pressing matters when I spotted this post. Since I recently had

> reason to apply the hotfix to several Vista boxes, I thought it worth

> pointing to it. In fairness, you must admit that I cautioned, "This might

> contain something applicable". Note the "might". Now that I did read the

> body of the post, I agree that there is no danger of relevance of that

> particular fix.

>

> As for, "install a Vista hotfix on XP/2003??" Aren't you a silly one! Ha!

 

Just wanted to make sure you hadn't lost your sanity. :-p

[Guest Tom Ferguson]

Re: Slow copying of files

 

Oh, that ship sailed years ago!

 

"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message

news:#iSrgKq1HHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> OK. You caught me. I was just skimming subject lines before moving on

>> to other, pressing matters when I spotted this post. Since I recently

>> had reason to apply the hotfix to several Vista boxes, I thought it

>> worth pointing to it. In fairness, you must admit that I cautioned,

>> "This might contain something applicable". Note the "might". Now that

>> I did read the body of the post, I agree that there is no danger of

>> relevance of that particular fix.

>>

>> As for, "install a Vista hotfix on XP/2003??" Aren't you a silly one!

>> Ha!

>

> Just wanted to make sure you hadn't lost your sanity. :-p

>

>

[Guest miso@sushi.com]

Re: Slow copying of files

 

On Aug 2, 4:27 pm, "Tom Ferguson" <tom.ms...@gmail.com> wrote:

> This might contain something applicable:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931770/

>

> Tom

> MSMVP

> Windows shell/User

>

> "James R" <James R...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messagenews:299C99F9-1B66-464E-AA2C-27D4937F6D2C@microsoft.com...

>

> > We have a problem copying files from Windows Server 2003 64-bit to our

> > local

> > desktops running Windows XP. For a large number of the desktops, a file

> > copy

> > of 60 Mb from the server to the local drive can take about 30 minutes

> > to

> > complete. For other desktops of the same OS, the same file can be

> > copied in

> > about 5 seconds. For the ones the copy slowly, they can copy that same

> > file

> > from a Windows 2003 32-bit server or another desktop in 5 seconds. We

> > have

> > even moved PCs around to swap the network ports used and the problem

> > follows

> > the PC. We have standardized our desktop and server hardware so the

> > problem

> > should point to something in the software. There is something fouling

> > up the

> > communications between some of our Windows XPs and Windows 2003 64-bit

> > and we

> > are running out of ideas as to what to check. Any tips on what to look

> > at?

 

Funny thing is I used to get the "0 minutes remaining" when FTPing to

my webhosting server. Not all the time. I haven't seen the problem in

some time so I wonder if it was fixed in an update or service pack.

This is on X64, and again, only seen on ftp. I never had a problem

transferring files on my local network.

 

Not to drift off the topic too much, but I did encounter a slow down

when transferring directories (folders) containing a large number of

files, maybe 80k of files in some directories. This was from a X64

machine to a win2kpro machine. What I noticed is the file transfers

would slow down after a while, as if the mere fact of creating file

name on the win2kpro machine caused the slowdown. I had about 50Gbyte

to transfer, and it was never finishing. The slow down started at

about 5gBytes of transfer.

 

As an experiment, I zipped all the files I wanted to transfer.

Transferring the zip file ran about as expected, i.e no slow down.

However, as the files were unzipped on the win2kpro machine, the

extraction slowed down.

 

I pulled the hard drive from the win2kpro machine, hooked it up to the

X64 machine, with the notion of running the windows exploring to do

the copying. It turns out NTFS on win2k is not the same as NTFS on

X64, making program not work.

 

The ultimate solution was to use Partition Commander from the boot

CDROM. It transfered the files without a hitch, even though the NTFS

was not the same.