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How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.

 

I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.

 

On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"

and restarted the browser.

 

I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands

"Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"

"Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"

 

I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office Programs

 

In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the

keyboard service is installed.

 

I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and it

comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry

and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I kill

the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.

 

For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs - restart

I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.

 

ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception

 

Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system. This

would be greatly appreciated.

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Guest Tony Sperling

Guest Tony Sperling

Posted
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Re: I.E. 7.0 on XP x64 - ctfmon.exe

 

I think you will be well adviced to study this phenomenon carefully:

 

 

http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/ctfmon/

 

has info that might be valuable to you, and links to ways of testing what is

going on. It is my opinion that there is more information there than what

you can expect to harvest here.

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

"Patrick" <Patrick@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.

>

> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.

>

> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"

> and restarted the browser.

>

> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands

> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"

> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"

>

> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office Programs

>

> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the

> keyboard service is installed.

>

> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and it

> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry

> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I

kill

> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.

>

> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs - restart

> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.

>

> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception

>

> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system. This

> would be greatly appreciated.

>

>

Guest Patrick

Guest Patrick

Posted
Posted

Re: I.E. 7.0 on XP x64 - ctfmon.exe

 

Tony;

 

Thank you for the - thought...being that I have done everything else to

stop it from loading it could have been infected with a virus.

 

Uniblue's SpyEraser reports that my system is clean - not even a bad cookie.

 

I use this machine only as a workstation. Video / Graphics editing, Flash,

Web site building / editing.

I do not cruse the internet. -

I go only to sites work related Adobe, Microsoft, Nvidia, Asus.

And to sites that I have built / uploading verification / maintenance etc.

 

Consistently the problem is this:

From a desktop shortcut - I open I.E.7 - it opens under the system process

svchost.exe -

ctfmon.exe opens as its child process.(verified by sysinternals process

explorer)

 

I close I.E.7. ctfmon.exe does not close but instead remains open and is

moved down the

tree as a user initiated process with no parent.

I reopen I.E.7 - the home pages comes up - I click to open a new tab and

I.E.7 locks up.

I cannot move the window - I click home page - nothing happens - I go to

favorites click

a link - it comes up but I cannot close the new tab. I cannot close or

minimize the browser.

I cannot click back to the first tab.

 

I kill ctfmon.exe and I.E.7 functions normally.

 

This cannot be how Microsoft intended this to work.

 

 

 

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

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>I think you will be well adviced to study this phenomenon carefully:

>

>

> http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/ctfmon/

>

> has info that might be valuable to you, and links to ways of testing what

> is

> going on. It is my opinion that there is more information there than what

> you can expect to harvest here.

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

> "Patrick" <Patrick@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:%23TFiXUt1HHA.5616@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.

>>

>> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.

>>

>> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"

>> and restarted the browser.

>>

>> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands

>> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"

>> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"

>>

>> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office Programs

>>

>> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the

>> keyboard service is installed.

>>

>> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and it

>> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry

>> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I

> kill

>> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.

>>

>> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs -

>> restart

>> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.

>>

>> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception

>>

>> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system.

>> This

>> would be greatly appreciated.

>>

>>

>

>

Guest Tony Sperling

Guest Tony Sperling

Posted
Posted

Re: I.E. 7.0 on XP x64 - ctfmon.exe

 

I have next to no experience from IE7 and it's typical errors, this doesn't

sound very typical to me. Have you tried looking in your 'Event Viewer' for

any messages concerning CTFMON or SVCHOST?

 

I noticed how the site specifically recommended NOT to disable CTFMON - in

your place, I would probably contact MS or search the KB for more

information. Seeing that you have done some fairly deep digging on your own

and know what is going on around your system and it's use, I think you

should 'stick-to-it' - my suspicion is that this is an error that is

triggered from somewhere else, not from where you first get to see it.

 

Unless someone else have had the exact same thing, I don't think there are

any short-cuts or incantations that can help you right away.

 

If I was being stuck right there, I would probably try and un-install IE7,

test my DotNet installation and Java/Flash and then re-install everything

with frequent re-booting in-between steps.

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

"Patrick" <Patrick@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> Tony;

>

> Thank you for the - thought...being that I have done everything else to

> stop it from loading it could have been infected with a virus.

>

> Uniblue's SpyEraser reports that my system is clean - not even a bad

cookie.

>

> I use this machine only as a workstation. Video / Graphics editing, Flash,

> Web site building / editing.

> I do not cruse the internet. -

> I go only to sites work related Adobe, Microsoft, Nvidia, Asus.

> And to sites that I have built / uploading verification / maintenance etc.

>

> Consistently the problem is this:

> From a desktop shortcut - I open I.E.7 - it opens under the system process

> svchost.exe -

> ctfmon.exe opens as its child process.(verified by sysinternals process

> explorer)

>

> I close I.E.7. ctfmon.exe does not close but instead remains open and is

> moved down the

> tree as a user initiated process with no parent.

> I reopen I.E.7 - the home pages comes up - I click to open a new tab and

> I.E.7 locks up.

> I cannot move the window - I click home page - nothing happens - I go to

> favorites click

> a link - it comes up but I cannot close the new tab. I cannot close or

> minimize the browser.

> I cannot click back to the first tab.

>

> I kill ctfmon.exe and I.E.7 functions normally.

>

> This cannot be how Microsoft intended this to work.

>

>

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:Orxq7az1HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >I think you will be well adviced to study this phenomenon carefully:

> >

> >

> > http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/processlibrary/ctfmon/

> >

> > has info that might be valuable to you, and links to ways of testing

what

> > is

> > going on. It is my opinion that there is more information there than

what

> > you can expect to harvest here.

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> > "Patrick" <Patrick@nospam.com> wrote in message

> > news:%23TFiXUt1HHA.5616@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.

> >>

> >> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.

> >>

> >> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"

> >> and restarted the browser.

> >>

> >> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands

> >> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"

> >> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"

> >>

> >> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office

Programs

> >>

> >> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the

> >> keyboard service is installed.

> >>

> >> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and

it

> >> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry

> >> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I

> > kill

> >> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.

> >>

> >> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs -

> >> restart

> >> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.

> >>

> >> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception

> >>

> >> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system.

> >> This

> >> would be greatly appreciated.

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

>

Guest Theo

Guest Theo

Posted
Posted

Re: I.E. 7.0 on XP x64 - ctfmon.exe

 

Microsoft has a FAQ on ctfmon.exe at:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599

 

See if there is any useful information there.

 

 

Patrick wrote:

> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.

>

> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.

>

> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"

> and restarted the browser.

>

> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands

> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"

> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"

>

> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office Programs

>

> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the

> keyboard service is installed.

>

> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and it

> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry

> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I kill

> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.

>

> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs - restart

> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.

>

> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception

>

> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system. This

> would be greatly appreciated.

>

>

Guest Patrick

Guest Patrick

Posted
Posted

Re: I.E. 7.0 on XP x64 - ctfmon.exe

 

Internet Properties>Advanced>uncheck "Always use Clear Type for HTML*"

 

I have determined this setting that fails to function when using I.E.7 32bit

browser

on XP x64.

 

This setting does however stop I.E.7 64bit browser from loading ctfmon.exe.

 

Now, how do I get M$ to fix it?

 

 

 

 

"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:Oty5hK51HHA.6072@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Microsoft has a FAQ on ctfmon.exe at:

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599

>

> See if there is any useful information there.

>

>

> Patrick wrote:

>> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.

>>

>> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.

>>

>> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"

>> and restarted the browser.

>>

>> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands

>> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"

>> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"

>>

>> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office Programs

>>

>> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the

>> keyboard service is installed.

>>

>> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and it

>> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry

>> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I

>> kill

>> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.

>>

>> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs -

>> restart

>> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.

>>

>> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception

>>

>> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system.

>> This

>> would be greatly appreciated.

>>

Guest Theo

Guest Theo

Posted
Posted

Re: I.E. 7.0 on XP x64 - ctfmon.exe

 

Are you the only one with this problem? If so, it may be

something on your system causing the problem, such as a

corrupted file. And I would not expect Microsoft to repair

your system for you.

 

I personally do not have any problem with either of my

Internet Explorers 7 in Win x64.

 

Are you indicting you stopped using ClearType for HTML?

 

I have the box checked in my system and use ClearType for HTML.

 

 

Patrick wrote:

> Internet Properties>Advanced>uncheck "Always use Clear Type for HTML*"

>

> I have determined this setting that fails to function when using I.E.7 32bit

> browser

> on XP x64.

>

> This setting does however stop I.E.7 64bit browser from loading ctfmon.exe.

>

> Now, how do I get M$ to fix it?

>

>

>

>

> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:Oty5hK51HHA.6072@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Microsoft has a FAQ on ctfmon.exe at:

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599

>>

>> See if there is any useful information there.

>>

>>

>> Patrick wrote:

>>> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.

>>>

>>> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.

>>>

>>> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"

>>> and restarted the browser.

>>>

>>> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands

>>> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"

>>> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"

>>>

>>> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office Programs

>>>

>>> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the

>>> keyboard service is installed.

>>>

>>> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and it

>>> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry

>>> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I

>>> kill

>>> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.

>>>

>>> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs -

>>> restart

>>> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.

>>>

>>> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception

>>>

>>> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system.

>>> This

>>> would be greatly appreciated.

>>>

>

Guest Patrick

Guest Patrick

Posted
Posted

Re: I.E. 7.0 on XP x64 - ctfmon.exe

 

Correct - I have unchecked the box - I start 64bit I.E.7 and ctfmon.exe does

not load

as a child process.

Then I start 32bit I.E.7 and it loads ctfmon.exe and with it come the issues

when opening

a new tab and trying to close it.

 

It has also been my experience on XP x86 that from time to time ctfmon. has

caused

multiple issues for many many people - hence the KB articles written for

people who

have had issues and need to turn it off.

 

And no - I am not using both browsers at the same time.

 

It is apparent that 32bit I.E.7 on XP x64 ignores this setting to not use

ClearType for HTML

and when it loads, it automatically inserts itself into the registry - HKCU

to run on startup

with Windows.

 

Please try un-checking the box - start 64bit I.E.7 and see if it loaded

ctfmon. If not

then start 32bit I.E.7 and see if it is loaded.

 

I use "sysinternals" process explorer to view these actions.

Sysinternals newly acquired by Microsoft 2006.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx

 

 

"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:%23J%232FvE2HHA.4400@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Are you the only one with this problem? If so, it may be something on

> your system causing the problem, such as a corrupted file. And I would

> not expect Microsoft to repair your system for you.

>

> I personally do not have any problem with either of my Internet Explorers

> 7 in Win x64.

>

> Are you indicting you stopped using ClearType for HTML?

>

> I have the box checked in my system and use ClearType for HTML.

>

>

> Patrick wrote:

>> Internet Properties>Advanced>uncheck "Always use Clear Type for HTML*"

>>

>> I have determined this setting that fails to function when using I.E.7

>> 32bit browser

>> on XP x64.

>>

>> This setting does however stop I.E.7 64bit browser from loading

>> ctfmon.exe.

>>

>> Now, how do I get M$ to fix it?

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:Oty5hK51HHA.6072@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Microsoft has a FAQ on ctfmon.exe at:

>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599

>>>

>>> See if there is any useful information there.

>>>

>>>

>>> Patrick wrote:

>>>> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.

>>>>

>>>> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.

>>>>

>>>> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"

>>>> and restarted the browser.

>>>>

>>>> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands

>>>> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"

>>>> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"

>>>>

>>>> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office

>>>> Programs

>>>>

>>>> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the

>>>> keyboard service is installed.

>>>>

>>>> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and

>>>> it

>>>> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry

>>>> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I

>>>> kill

>>>> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.

>>>>

>>>> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs -

>>>> restart

>>>> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.

>>>>

>>>> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception

>>>>

>>>> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system.

>>>> This

>>>> would be greatly appreciated.

>>>>

>>

Guest Theo

Guest Theo

Posted
Posted

Re: I.E. 7.0 on XP x64 - ctfmon.exe

 

I don't know what causes ctfmon.exe to be started during

boot, but it is running when Win x64 boots up. Both I.E.

64-bit and I.E. 32-bit have the block checked to use

ClearType for HTML. Neither I.E. cause any kind of problem

with Win x64 and I can have both versions of I.E. running at

the same time without any problems.

 

I cannot remember of ever having a problem with ctfmon.exe

in Win XP 32-bit either.

 

I still think there is something specific to your system

causing the problem.

 

 

 

Patrick wrote:

> Correct - I have unchecked the box - I start 64bit I.E.7 and ctfmon.exe does

> not load

> as a child process.

> Then I start 32bit I.E.7 and it loads ctfmon.exe and with it come the issues

> when opening

> a new tab and trying to close it.

>

> It has also been my experience on XP x86 that from time to time ctfmon. has

> caused

> multiple issues for many many people - hence the KB articles written for

> people who

> have had issues and need to turn it off.

>

> And no - I am not using both browsers at the same time.

>

> It is apparent that 32bit I.E.7 on XP x64 ignores this setting to not use

> ClearType for HTML

> and when it loads, it automatically inserts itself into the registry - HKCU

> to run on startup

> with Windows.

>

> Please try un-checking the box - start 64bit I.E.7 and see if it loaded

> ctfmon. If not

> then start 32bit I.E.7 and see if it is loaded.

>

> I use "sysinternals" process explorer to view these actions.

> Sysinternals newly acquired by Microsoft 2006.

> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx

>

>

> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:%23J%232FvE2HHA.4400@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Are you the only one with this problem? If so, it may be something on

>> your system causing the problem, such as a corrupted file. And I would

>> not expect Microsoft to repair your system for you.

>>

>> I personally do not have any problem with either of my Internet Explorers

>> 7 in Win x64.

>>

>> Are you indicting you stopped using ClearType for HTML?

>>

>> I have the box checked in my system and use ClearType for HTML.

>>

>>

>> Patrick wrote:

>>> Internet Properties>Advanced>uncheck "Always use Clear Type for HTML*"

>>>

>>> I have determined this setting that fails to function when using I.E.7

>>> 32bit browser

>>> on XP x64.

>>>

>>> This setting does however stop I.E.7 64bit browser from loading

>>> ctfmon.exe.

>>>

>>> Now, how do I get M$ to fix it?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:Oty5hK51HHA.6072@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Microsoft has a FAQ on ctfmon.exe at:

>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599

>>>>

>>>> See if there is any useful information there.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Patrick wrote:

>>>>> How do I stop I.E.7 from reloading ctfmon.exe.

>>>>>

>>>>> I am running XP x64 - I.E. 7.0 - 32bit version.

>>>>>

>>>>> On the advanced tab I have unchecked "Always use Clear Type for HTML *"

>>>>> and restarted the browser.

>>>>>

>>>>> I have unregistered the .dlls using the run commands

>>>>> "Regsvr32.exe /u msimtf.dll"

>>>>> "Regsvr32.exe /u Msctf.dll"

>>>>>

>>>>> I do not have "Alternative Use Input" installed with any Office

>>>>> Programs

>>>>>

>>>>> In Regional and Language Options>Languages>Details>Settings - only the

>>>>> keyboard service is installed.

>>>>>

>>>>> I open I..E.. right click on a link and open in new tab or window and

>>>>> it

>>>>> comes back on - reinserts itself into HKCU registry

>>>>> and then causes pages to hang and the browser will not close - until I

>>>>> kill

>>>>> the process....which is always a child of I.E.7.

>>>>>

>>>>> For the times when I do get I.E.7 to close then ctfmon.exe hangs -

>>>>> restart

>>>>> I.E.7 and it reopens with a second instance.

>>>>>

>>>>> ctfmon.exe has always been a problem since its inception

>>>>>

>>>>> Can someone please tell me how to kill it without trashing my system.

>>>>> This

>>>>> would be greatly appreciated.

>>>>>

>

>

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