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I'm running Vista Ultimate 64bit and my video card is a nVidia GeForce

6200 LE.

 

I installed Vista using the built in drivers but had continual problems

with the monitor going black and then coming back on with a message

that the display had stopped but recovered. It would do this, for

example if I changed volume during a playback on WMP. The playback

stopped, the screen went black and then came back on with the message,

a few seconds later playback resumed.

 

It got pretty annoying so I went to EVGA's site and downloaded the

latest and greatest, now the display flickers badly or goes black as

before but I don't get the message so the updated drivers helped but

didn't fix it.

 

Anyone have an idea? Any settings that might help?

 

 

 

 

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Guest Theo

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Re: Display problem

 

If you search around the internet a bit you will discover

that video driver problems in Vista, both x86 & x64, seem to

be the norm right now. For some reason neither ATI nor

nVidia seem to be able to get their drivers right.

 

 

XS11E wrote:

> I'm running Vista Ultimate 64bit and my video card is a nVidia GeForce

> 6200 LE.

>

> I installed Vista using the built in drivers but had continual problems

> with the monitor going black and then coming back on with a message

> that the display had stopped but recovered. It would do this, for

> example if I changed volume during a playback on WMP. The playback

> stopped, the screen went black and then came back on with the message,

> a few seconds later playback resumed.

>

> It got pretty annoying so I went to EVGA's site and downloaded the

> latest and greatest, now the display flickers badly or goes black as

> before but I don't get the message so the updated drivers helped but

> didn't fix it.

>

> Anyone have an idea? Any settings that might help?

>

>

>

>

Guest XS11E

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Re: Display problem

 

Theo <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> If you search around the internet a bit you will discover

> that video driver problems in Vista, both x86 & x64, seem to

> be the norm right now. For some reason neither ATI nor

> nVidia seem to be able to get their drivers right.

 

I know there are problems, I need a fix. I've had problems with

anything I've ever had from nVidia, wish I'd got an ATI card, I've had

less problems with ATI but who knows in Vista..

 

I do have an ATI card I can try, it's not adequate for Vista, it won't

run any of the pretty stuff that I've turned off so it doesn't much

matter, I guess. If I get desperate enough I'll give it a try.

 

At least the new drivers are a bit of an improvement but still a long

way from working right....

 

 

 

 

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Guest Theo

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Re: Display problem

 

You can always hope the ATI and nVidia programmers

eventually get things figured out and can produce good,

stable software!

 

If you're in a hurry, maybe you can write your own drivers!

 

 

XS11E wrote:

> Theo <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

>> If you search around the internet a bit you will discover

>> that video driver problems in Vista, both x86 & x64, seem to

>> be the norm right now. For some reason neither ATI nor

>> nVidia seem to be able to get their drivers right.

>

> I know there are problems, I need a fix. I've had problems with

> anything I've ever had from nVidia, wish I'd got an ATI card, I've had

> less problems with ATI but who knows in Vista..

>

> I do have an ATI card I can try, it's not adequate for Vista, it won't

> run any of the pretty stuff that I've turned off so it doesn't much

> matter, I guess. If I get desperate enough I'll give it a try.

>

> At least the new drivers are a bit of an improvement but still a long

> way from working right....

>

>

>

>

Guest XS11E

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Re: Display problem

 

Theo <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> You can always hope the ATI and nVidia programmers

> eventually get things figured out and can produce good,

> stable software!

 

I don't believe that's possible. Both companies are so involved in

one-upping each other on their high end cards that software/drivers are

not upgraded, improved or even thought about for a product that's

reached the end of it's life which for video products is about 30 days,

the only programming being done is trying to get next week's card to

halfway work... :-(

 

 

 

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Guest Carlos

Guest Carlos

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Re: Display problem

 

Hi:

Have you tried uninstalling the drivers so that when you reboot your display

adapter is recognised as "Standard VGA adapter"?

Once you have achieved that you might want to install the latest

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_162.22.html

but without any previous version existing on your PC.

I have seen on two different PC's absolutely no problems with NVidia chipset

based 8600GTS and 7900GS and the 162.22's.

Carlos

 

"XS11E" wrote:

> Theo <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

> > You can always hope the ATI and nVidia programmers

> > eventually get things figured out and can produce good,

> > stable software!

>

> I don't believe that's possible. Both companies are so involved in

> one-upping each other on their high end cards that software/drivers are

> not upgraded, improved or even thought about for a product that's

> reached the end of it's life which for video products is about 30 days,

> the only programming being done is trying to get next week's card to

> halfway work... :-(

>

>

>

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Re: Display problem

 

Carlos <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Have you tried uninstalling the drivers so that when you reboot

> your display adapter is recognised as "Standard VGA adapter"?

> Once you have achieved that you might want to install the latest

> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_162.22.html

 

Thanks, I installed it, it's later than the one from EVGA's site so

we'll see what happens. Some of the problems appear to be unchanged.

 

If there are any problems I think I'll go back to the Standard VGA

adapter and try that for awhile. I have to set that up manually

because Vista recognizes the GeForce 6200 LE and installs drivers for

that.

 

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Re: Display problem

 

XS11E <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

> Carlos <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

>> Have you tried uninstalling the drivers so that when you reboot

>> your display adapter is recognised as "Standard VGA adapter"?

>> Once you have achieved that you might want to install the latest

>> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_162.22.html

>

> Thanks, I installed it, it's later than the one from EVGA's site

> so we'll see what happens. Some of the problems appear to be

> unchanged.

 

Replying to myself. It's worse. It's not as bad as the included

GeForce 6200 driver was but it's worse than the driver I updated to

earlier which was 158.18

 

I notice I have a bunch of earlier drivers, maybe I'll try one of them?

> If there are any problems I think I'll go back to the Standard VGA

> adapter and try that for awhile. I have to set that up manually

> because Vista recognizes the GeForce 6200 LE and installs drivers

> for that.

 

I'm there now but the Standard VGA drivers don't work well, things have

slowed a bunch.

 

 

 

 

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Guest Tony Sperling

Guest Tony Sperling

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Re: Display problem

 

Err. . .this being a somewhat 'older' card, did you try and look for a BIOS

update for that card instead of a driver? It'd be a rare thing for a

graphics card but it does happen. nVidia is not likely to have one - try the

manufacturer, it may be well hidden - if nothing, ask them to confirm.

 

I don't agree that driver development for graphics cards is that volatile.

It's true - with DX10 coming up, that substantially more than just the major

part of development has circulated around cards supporting DX10 and

bug-fixes for these and SLI functionality too has seen some polish.

 

nVidia, in fact, was one of the very, very first to have any kind of 64bit

support, at the time when XP x64 went public. A few of us here will remember

the trouble we had with sound and printers - anything else you could forget

about for the following two years. Except for HP, they had a pre-Beta driver

that was never released or even acknowledged through the normal channels.

 

If you plan to stick with Vista, I'd suggest to get a DX10 compatible card

for that machine, it is where driver development is happening. It probably

won't keep you out of trouble, but new things are obviously and continuosly

happening on that front.

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

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> Carlos <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

> > Have you tried uninstalling the drivers so that when you reboot

> > your display adapter is recognised as "Standard VGA adapter"?

> > Once you have achieved that you might want to install the latest

> > http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_162.22.html

>

> Thanks, I installed it, it's later than the one from EVGA's site so

> we'll see what happens. Some of the problems appear to be unchanged.

>

> If there are any problems I think I'll go back to the Standard VGA

> adapter and try that for awhile. I have to set that up manually

> because Vista recognizes the GeForce 6200 LE and installs drivers for

> that.

>

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FIXED, was: Display problem

 

FIXED, was: Display problem

 

XS11E <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm running Vista Ultimate 64bit and my video card is a nVidia

> GeForce 6200 LE.

>

> I installed Vista using the built in drivers but had continual

> problems with the monitor going black and then coming back on with

> a message that the display had stopped but recovered. It would do

> this, for example if I changed volume during a playback on WMP.

> The playback stopped, the screen went black and then came back on

> with the message, a few seconds later playback resumed.

>

> It got pretty annoying so I went to EVGA's site and downloaded the

> latest and greatest, now the display flickers badly or goes black

> as before but I don't get the message so the updated drivers

> helped but didn't fix it.

>

> Anyone have an idea? Any settings that might help?

 

Now I'm very confused. I prefer to run my computer using Windows

Standard appearance and classic start menu but I've been playing with

stuff.... went to Vista start menu, Aero for appearance and selected a

Dream Scene desktop, no probems with the display, none at all!

 

I refined by going back to Classic start menu, Windows Standard

appearance and picked a picture for the desktop, problem re-appeared

so..

 

The fix: I changed appearance to Aero, left everything else alone and

all is fine.

 

Why will my video card run Aero, Dream Scene, etc. but can't handle

Windows Classic? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me but I'm sure

someone can explain it, PLEASE?

 

 

 

 

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Guest Carlos

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RE: FIXED, was: Display problem

 

RE: FIXED, was: Display problem

 

Hi:

I guess your case is one of those in which a fresh install is the only

solution.

Betcha a fresh install doesn't have the problem even with Windows Classic.

Carlos

 

"XS11E" wrote:

> XS11E <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

>

> > I'm running Vista Ultimate 64bit and my video card is a nVidia

> > GeForce 6200 LE.

> >

> > I installed Vista using the built in drivers but had continual

> > problems with the monitor going black and then coming back on with

> > a message that the display had stopped but recovered. It would do

> > this, for example if I changed volume during a playback on WMP.

> > The playback stopped, the screen went black and then came back on

> > with the message, a few seconds later playback resumed.

> >

> > It got pretty annoying so I went to EVGA's site and downloaded the

> > latest and greatest, now the display flickers badly or goes black

> > as before but I don't get the message so the updated drivers

> > helped but didn't fix it.

> >

> > Anyone have an idea? Any settings that might help?

>

> Now I'm very confused. I prefer to run my computer using Windows

> Standard appearance and classic start menu but I've been playing with

> stuff.... went to Vista start menu, Aero for appearance and selected a

> Dream Scene desktop, no probems with the display, none at all!

>

> I refined by going back to Classic start menu, Windows Standard

> appearance and picked a picture for the desktop, problem re-appeared

> so..

>

> The fix: I changed appearance to Aero, left everything else alone and

> all is fine.

>

> Why will my video card run Aero, Dream Scene, etc. but can't handle

> Windows Classic? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me but I'm sure

> someone can explain it, PLEASE?

>

>

>

>

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RE: FIXED, was: Display problem

 

RE: FIXED, was: Display problem

 

Carlos <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Hi:

> I guess your case is one of those in which a fresh install is the

> only solution.

> Betcha a fresh install doesn't have the problem even with Windows

> Classic.

 

How much do you want to bet?

 

Make the bet a steak dinner and plan on meeting me at Ruth's Cris

Steakhouse, OK? <G>

 

This IS a fresh install. I decided Vista 64 was *FINALLY* ready for

prime time so I changed to my larger HD, did a fresh install and the

problem persists exactly the same as it was on my older install on the

smaller hard drive and, as before, updating the nVidia driver helps a

little and switching to Aero eliminates it totally. The problem HAS to

be my video card.

 

My computer is a socket 754 MB, PATA HDs, AGP video card and DDR RAM so

as you can see, I can't update it as all the main components are

obsolete. To go to anything newer I need new SATA HD(s), new PCIE

video card, new DDR2 RAM, new MB, etc. so I took the easy way out and

ordered a new computer which should be here in a day or so. I'll bet

you dollars to donuts the problem will be gone with the new graphics on

the new computer.

 

FWIW, my old installation was tweaked to perfection, everything good or

bad about it has continued onto this installation including the display

problem.

 

When the new PC arrives I'll format the HDs on this system, install XP

and ship it off to my son who's living with a Celeron 1.2 gHz and 256 M

of RAM. The Athlon 64 3400+ with 1G of RAM of this machine will make

him VERY happy!

 

 

 

 

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Guest Tony Sperling

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Re: FIXED, was: Display problem

 

Re: FIXED, was: Display problem

 

Personally, I think that what you are seeing is a side-effect of

compatibility issues between DX9 and DX10. Everything in the last 6 months

(or year?) has been written for DX10 while being backwards compatible - your

graphic card's BIOS may not handle this very well?

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

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> Carlos <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

> > Hi:

> > I guess your case is one of those in which a fresh install is the

> > only solution.

> > Betcha a fresh install doesn't have the problem even with Windows

> > Classic.

>

> How much do you want to bet?

>

> Make the bet a steak dinner and plan on meeting me at Ruth's Cris

> Steakhouse, OK? <G>

>

> This IS a fresh install. I decided Vista 64 was *FINALLY* ready for

> prime time so I changed to my larger HD, did a fresh install and the

> problem persists exactly the same as it was on my older install on the

> smaller hard drive and, as before, updating the nVidia driver helps a

> little and switching to Aero eliminates it totally. The problem HAS to

> be my video card.

>

> My computer is a socket 754 MB, PATA HDs, AGP video card and DDR RAM so

> as you can see, I can't update it as all the main components are

> obsolete. To go to anything newer I need new SATA HD(s), new PCIE

> video card, new DDR2 RAM, new MB, etc. so I took the easy way out and

> ordered a new computer which should be here in a day or so. I'll bet

> you dollars to donuts the problem will be gone with the new graphics on

> the new computer.

>

> FWIW, my old installation was tweaked to perfection, everything good or

> bad about it has continued onto this installation including the display

> problem.

>

> When the new PC arrives I'll format the HDs on this system, install XP

> and ship it off to my son who's living with a Celeron 1.2 gHz and 256 M

> of RAM. The Athlon 64 3400+ with 1G of RAM of this machine will make

> him VERY happy!

>

>

>

>

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Guest XS11E

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Re: FIXED, was: Display problem

 

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote:

> Personally, I think that what you are seeing is a side-effect of

> compatibility issues between DX9 and DX10. Everything in the last

> 6 months (or year?) has been written for DX10 while being

> backwards compatible - your graphic card's BIOS may not handle

> this very well?

 

Possibly, it's an older card, an nVidia GeForce 6200LE. Since I can

eliminate the problem by switching to Aero from Classic mode I have to

decide which is worst, the horribly annoying Aero or the much less

annoying display glitches. I choose the display problem. <G>

 

You can't imagine how much I wish there were a 64 bit version of

Windows 2000 or even better yet, NT4.0 with USB support added...

 

 

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Guest Tony Sperling

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Re: FIXED, was: Display problem

 

In a way, I can imagine.

 

XP, though, is a really good platform for 64bits and when my beloved W2K

finally dies from lack of support - or machinery that will accept it, I

don't think I will miss it half as much as I thought I would some 12 month's

ago. My XP x64 will carry me a fair distance into the future - let's see

what Vista's successor has to bring. It can't be that far off now?

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

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> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote:

>

> > Personally, I think that what you are seeing is a side-effect of

> > compatibility issues between DX9 and DX10. Everything in the last

> > 6 months (or year?) has been written for DX10 while being

> > backwards compatible - your graphic card's BIOS may not handle

> > this very well?

>

> Possibly, it's an older card, an nVidia GeForce 6200LE. Since I can

> eliminate the problem by switching to Aero from Classic mode I have to

> decide which is worst, the horribly annoying Aero or the much less

> annoying display glitches. I choose the display problem. <G>

>

> You can't imagine how much I wish there were a 64 bit version of

> Windows 2000 or even better yet, NT4.0 with USB support added...

>

>

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"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in

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> In a way, I can imagine.

>

> XP, though, is a really good platform for 64bits and when my beloved

> W2K finally dies from lack of support - or machinery that will accept

> it, I don't think I will miss it half as much as I thought I would

> some 12 month's ago. My XP x64 will carry me a fair distance into the

> future - let's see what Vista's successor has to bring. It can't be

> that far off now?

 

Probably not. I appear to be stuck with Vista and Vista 32 at that, now.

My new computer should arrive today and it's an HP Media Center PC. A year

ago it came with XP MCE but as near as I can tell, HP does not make/sell

restore disks for that PC with other than Vista Home Premium which means

changing the OS will result in me losing all the extras HP included. Much

of it is crapware that I'll remove but much of it is needed for the various

media features. So it looks like Vista Home Premium is going to be it for

awhile. <sigh>

 

Later, as I become more used to the media functions I suspect I'll be able

to switch to Vista 64 but I have to wait and use the machine as is until I

figure out what I'm doing! <G>

Guest XS11E

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RE: FIXED, was: Display problem

 

XS11E <xs11e@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

> Carlos <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

>> Hi:

>> I guess your case is one of those in which a fresh install is the

>> only solution.

>> Betcha a fresh install doesn't have the problem even with Windows

>> Classic.

>

> How much do you want to bet?

>

> Make the bet a steak dinner and plan on meeting me at Ruth's Cris

> Steakhouse, OK? <G>

> When the new PC arrives

 

It arrived, no display problem. Different video card and different

driver because I'm running Vista Home Premium 32 bit.

 

 

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