32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

[Guest Malboeuf]

after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even the

32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I removed the

updates but it never helped any thing

 

any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

 

you really don't give us much information to work with. What is the failure?

When you say 32-bit Explorer, do you mean IE or Windows Explorer? What other

apps fail? Are you on a domain? Or a workgroup? What is your hardware

configuration?

 

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http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even

> the

> 32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I removed the

> updates but it never helped any thing

>

> any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful

[Guest Malboeuf]

Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

 

its one of our Game servers in the UK, its running the following

Windows server 64bit Eval (20 days so far)

Intel Quad core e6600, 4GB 1066RAM Dual DDR2, Asus P5B motherboard, 2 320GB

SATA300 Hard drives

 

now when I launch Explorer 32bit it starts but cant seem to access any web

sites, it says Page cannot be found, I even tried http:// with our other

servers IP and it still cannot see any sites

 

our 32 bit FTP program seems to be failing a well it seems on but you cant

connect to it, thwe run Serv-U on that server as we dont need it for web

hosting yet, when we do get it ready for IIS I'll change back to MS FTP

 

the game servers are 32bit and when run they start, and just when they show

the port info and connection port they just shut off and report the error to

windows

 

this is what they report

____

 

Faulting application OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, faulting module

OFPR_SOF_Server.exe, version 1.0.0.96, fault address 0x0000b0b0.

 

For more information, see Help and Support Center at

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

_____

 

my service manager FireDeamon is failing to start as well now and is

crashing constantly it reports

 

______

 

Subprocess monitoring failed due to subprocess is no longer active. The

subprocess is probably dead. Restarting the process. Error detail: N/A

_______

 

 

I do have to do some research on our game servers crashing, each use about

600MB and it seems when they all reach that they randomly fail, I think that

is a 32bit RAM issue that I'll look more into, but in the mean even Im sure

this is related to any net work port accessing by 32bit programs, if i run

32bit programs that do not access the network then they seem to work

 

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> you really don't give us much information to work with. What is the failure?

> When you say 32-bit Explorer, do you mean IE or Windows Explorer? What other

> apps fail? Are you on a domain? Or a workgroup? What is your hardware

> configuration?

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

>

> "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:00B21E1E-2803-40A9-B1F1-C9892E74E827@microsoft.com...

> > after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even

> > the

> > 32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I removed the

> > updates but it never helped any thing

> >

> > any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful

>

[Guest Malboeuf]

Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

 

ohh update

 

when I said

now when I launch Explorer 32bit it starts but cant seem to access any web

sites, it says Page cannot be found, I even tried http:// with our other

servers IP and it still cannot see any sites

 

I forgot to mention that 64bit explorer works fine, and I can also connect

to the remote desktop still

[Guest Malboeuf]

Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

 

Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become corrupted,

any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I can un

install SP1 to remove wow64 :(

 

my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream hahahah

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

 

If it is corrupted, I'm not a server person, but can't you run sfc /scan

now and repair as in XP?

 

"Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:B4DF367F-4352-460F-8FE8-EF0B5A689647@microsoft.com...

> Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become

> corrupted,

> any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I can

> un

> install SP1 to remove wow64 :(

>

> my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream

> hahahah

[Guest Malboeuf]

Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

 

wow64 must be working, but what ever it uses to access the network is failing

 

C:\WINDOWS\SysWOW64\CMD.EXE

will fail if I ping a web site

but if I use

C:\WINDOWS\system32\CMD.EXE

the ping returns with no problems

 

we're getting close now but im still going to cry over the down time we've had

 

 

"John Barnes" wrote:

> If it is corrupted, I'm not a server person, but can't you run sfc /scan

> now and repair as in XP?

>

> "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:B4DF367F-4352-460F-8FE8-EF0B5A689647@microsoft.com...

> > Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become

> > corrupted,

> > any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I can

> > un

> > install SP1 to remove wow64 :(

> >

> > my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream

> > hahahah

>

>

[Guest Malboeuf]

stablizing High MEM usage 32 bit apps on 64bit server

 

stablizing High MEM usage 32 bit apps on 64bit server

 

I have 5 win2k3 32bit enterprise dual core servers with 2GB of ram

 

but on my one test win2k3 64bit enterprise quad core with 4GB of ram server

I have notice that my four 32bit Apps using 600MB each randomly fail every

day while the 32bit servers run them stable for months

 

does any one have any idea how to get these 32bit aps to run better on the

win2k3 64bit Enterprise server, I know it must be the RAM

 

I tried the 32bit server with 4GB of ram and PAE and they are nothing but a

waste of time as they crash the apps hourly (two high memory usage apps will

try to use the same memory location and crash constantlly - microsoft hides

this information really well)

 

I do have allot of experience with the 32 bit server so if we need to get

deep into this I can follow whats going on

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: stablizing High MEM usage 32 bit apps on 64bit server

 

Re: stablizing High MEM usage 32 bit apps on 64bit server

 

Have you run a thorough memory test? The 64-bit os uses memory differently

and we have had a number of previous situations where memory worked on XP86

but failed on XP64.

 

"Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:E9A96A70-E5BF-4872-BD29-BF8988019019@microsoft.com...

>I have 5 win2k3 32bit enterprise dual core servers with 2GB of ram

>

> but on my one test win2k3 64bit enterprise quad core with 4GB of ram

> server

> I have notice that my four 32bit Apps using 600MB each randomly fail every

> day while the 32bit servers run them stable for months

>

> does any one have any idea how to get these 32bit aps to run better on the

> win2k3 64bit Enterprise server, I know it must be the RAM

>

> I tried the 32bit server with 4GB of ram and PAE and they are nothing but

> a

> waste of time as they crash the apps hourly (two high memory usage apps

> will

> try to use the same memory location and crash constantlly - microsoft

> hides

> this information really well)

>

> I do have allot of experience with the 32 bit server so if we need to get

> deep into this I can follow whats going on

[Guest Malboeuf]

Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

 

I ran ipconfig in the cmd(32bit) and I got the following

--------------------------

C:\WINDOWS\SysWOW64>ipconfig /renew

 

Windows IP Configuration

 

The operation failed as no adapter is in the state permissible for

this operation.

---------------------------------------------

 

interesting

 

"John Barnes" wrote:

> If it is corrupted, I'm not a server person, but can't you run sfc /scan

> now and repair as in XP?

>

> "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:B4DF367F-4352-460F-8FE8-EF0B5A689647@microsoft.com...

> > Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become

> > corrupted,

> > any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I can

> > un

> > install SP1 to remove wow64 :(

> >

> > my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream

> > hahahah

>

>

[Guest Malboeuf]

Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

 

had to boot into console mode via RDP to access it, I got sfc /scannow

running now

 

"John Barnes" wrote:

> If it is corrupted, I'm not a server person, but can't you run sfc /scan

> now and repair as in XP?

>

> "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:B4DF367F-4352-460F-8FE8-EF0B5A689647@microsoft.com...

> > Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become

> > corrupted,

> > any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I can

> > un

> > install SP1 to remove wow64 :(

> >

> > my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream

> > hahahah

>

>

[Guest Malboeuf]

Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

 

it ran then ended so no idea, gonna reboot and see what happens

 

 

"Malboeuf" wrote:

> had to boot into console mode via RDP to access it, I got sfc /scannow

> running now

>

> "John Barnes" wrote:

>

> > If it is corrupted, I'm not a server person, but can't you run sfc /scan

> > now and repair as in XP?

> >

> > "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:B4DF367F-4352-460F-8FE8-EF0B5A689647@microsoft.com...

> > > Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become

> > > corrupted,

> > > any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I can

> > > un

> > > install SP1 to remove wow64 :(

> > >

> > > my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream

> > > hahahah

> >

> >

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

 

Since that should eliminate your corruption possibility, you have settings

or memory. I still think running a thorough memory test is your best bet

given the symptoms you have.

 

"Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:F6F2A0FC-3CCE-4034-9058-A2F61759B6EA@microsoft.com...

> it ran then ended so no idea, gonna reboot and see what happens

>

>

> "Malboeuf" wrote:

>

>> had to boot into console mode via RDP to access it, I got sfc /scannow

>> running now

>>

>> "John Barnes" wrote:

>>

>> > If it is corrupted, I'm not a server person, but can't you run sfc

>> > /scan

>> > now and repair as in XP?

>> >

>> > "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> > news:B4DF367F-4352-460F-8FE8-EF0B5A689647@microsoft.com...

>> > > Im pretty sure I either some how shut off wow64 ir it has become

>> > > corrupted,

>> > > any Ideas on how to repair it, my os comes with SP2 so its not like I

>> > > can

>> > > un

>> > > install SP1 to remove wow64 :(

>> > >

>> > > my head works better in 10s, 32bit and 64bit makes me want to scream

>> > > hahahah

>> >

>> >

[Guest Malboeuf]

Re: 32bit aps fail on win2k3 64bit server after MS Updates

 

these were the Updates for the server the day this all started happening

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=921503

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=925398

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=927891

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=935966

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=938127

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=937143

 

 

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> you really don't give us much information to work with. What is the failure?

> When you say 32-bit Explorer, do you mean IE or Windows Explorer? What other

> apps fail? Are you on a domain? Or a workgroup? What is your hardware

> configuration?

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

>

> "Malboeuf" <Malboeuf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:00B21E1E-2803-40A9-B1F1-C9892E74E827@microsoft.com...

> > after a recent windows up date allot of my 32 bit aps are failing, even

> > the

> > 32bit explorer failes while the 64 bit explorer runs fine, I removed the

> > updates but it never helped any thing

> >

> > any ideas? or even where I can look will be helpful

>