Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install?

[Guest psongman]

Hi, I hope you can help me with some unexpected results after

installing Windows 2000 Pro. What happened was, I was having so much

trouble with my Windows 98 that I decided to upgrade. However, I put

the new OS on top of the ole 98.

 

I followed some instructions on the Net, and got it to boot up using

the new OS by changing boot ini, etc. but here is what is strange. It

says there are no programs in the add/remove programs area and it is

acting like the Windows 2000 area is not connected to the 98 stuff,

but I can use all the programs in the program files area.

 

So, what should I do to make it work smoothly? I will stop updating

all the stuff I had before, you know, like WMP, Realplayer, Adobe

Acrobat, and other proggies like that, until you counsel me. Final

note, there are no startup items, either, this is too wierd, but they

are all there somehow.

 

Thanks for assisting, appreciate it, psongman

[Guest John John]

Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install?

 

psongman wrote:

> Hi, I hope you can help me with some unexpected results after

> installing Windows 2000 Pro. What happened was, I was having so much

> trouble with my Windows 98 that I decided to upgrade. However, I put

> the new OS on top of the ole 98.

>

> I followed some instructions on the Net, and got it to boot up using

> the new OS by changing boot ini, etc. but here is what is strange. It

> says there are no programs in the add/remove programs area and it is

> acting like the Windows 2000 area is not connected to the 98 stuff,

> but I can use all the programs in the program files area.

>

> So, what should I do to make it work smoothly? I will stop updating

> all the stuff I had before, you know, like WMP, Realplayer, Adobe

> Acrobat, and other proggies like that, until you counsel me. Final

> note, there are no startup items, either, this is too wierd, but they

> are all there somehow.

>

> Thanks for assisting, appreciate it, psongman

 

Upgrades from Windows 98 to Windows 2000 are almost always problematic

and doomed to fail for one reason or another. If you want a sturdy,

reliable Windows 2000 installation you should format your drive and

install Windows 2000 cleanly, you will have a much better installation

and in turn it will lead to a better computing experience. Windows 2000

is an extremely reliable and robust operating system but it has to be

properly installed if you want it to work properly.

 

After you install the operating system install the latest service pack

and hotfixes. DO NOT connect the unpatched computer to the internet

without a properly configured firewall! As installed Windows 2000 is

EXTREMELY vulnerable to worms and virus if not properly protected.

These are what I would consider as bare minimum on a new Windows 2000

installation:

 

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/servicepacks/sp4/default.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/rollup.mspx

 

John

[Guest Dave Patrick]

Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install?

 

Sounds like you installed a dual-boot instead of an upgrade.

 

Be advised that upgrades from win9x almost always fail for any number of

reasons. Save yourself some time and trouble, given that you'll more than

likely end up with an unstable OS with all the remnants/ corruption left

behind from the upgrade. Best to blow it all away and go for the clean

install.

 

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup

disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000

CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute

makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the

prompts.

 

(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want

to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very

important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive

controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later

you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver

for your drive controller in drive "A")

 

Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to

install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional

screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.

 

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of

the license agreement and continue the installation.

 

When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing

partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard

disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an

existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must

then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System

partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this

step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted

press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with

your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in

setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new

partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use

all available space.

 

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before

connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

 

Then

 

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en

 

 

During Windows 2000 setup, at some point, will want to confirm the previous

operating system for the upgrade; at that point you'll simply insert the

qualified product install CD for it to verify. Then the install will

proceed.

 

 

Check the pc, mb or hardware manufacturer's web site for the latest bios and

or Windows 2000 drivers for your devices.

 

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Regards,

 

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

http://www.microsoft.com/protect

 

"psongman" wrote:

> Hi, I hope you can help me with some unexpected results after

> installing Windows 2000 Pro. What happened was, I was having so much

> trouble with my Windows 98 that I decided to upgrade. However, I put

> the new OS on top of the ole 98.

>

> I followed some instructions on the Net, and got it to boot up using

> the new OS by changing boot ini, etc. but here is what is strange. It

> says there are no programs in the add/remove programs area and it is

> acting like the Windows 2000 area is not connected to the 98 stuff,

> but I can use all the programs in the program files area.

>

> So, what should I do to make it work smoothly? I will stop updating

> all the stuff I had before, you know, like WMP, Realplayer, Adobe

> Acrobat, and other proggies like that, until you counsel me. Final

> note, there are no startup items, either, this is too wierd, but they

> are all there somehow.

>

> Thanks for assisting, appreciate it, psongman

>

[Guest psongman]

Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install?

 

Hi, WOW, thanks for the great insight and ideas. I do understand why

it would be better for a reinstall, but the computer is working quite

well. I guess what I was hinting at in my inquiry was...what really

happened after the install of Windows 2000 PRO? I mean what occurred

to all the files and programs that were in the Windows 98 section and

why aren't there any programs in ADD/REMOVE or in the STARTUP menu?

 

When you are not overly computer literate, but know how to maneuver

around on one, these questions defy understanding. The computer I

installed Windows 2000 PRO on didn't have any of my programs on it, so

following your procedures wouldn't be that diffcult....but, I won't be

using it that much as my other main computer that I use for recording

music and a few other works is Windows XP HOME< haha, had to mention

that.

 

I do have to say one wonderful thing about Windows 2000, whew, it

boots up and turns off in like 10 seconds. I could get like 2 cups of

coffee when it boots up and like 3 beers (yes, I drink fast, jk) when

it closes down on my ancient Windows 98 neanderthal station. Anyway, I

will do a bit more research but probably will reinstall as I don't

want some of the problems that have come up on my old Windows 98SE

machine....I mean like it is hanging all the time now, and I clean,

flush, defrag, etc, but when they get gummed up, near the end.

Appreciate your assistance, psongman

[Guest philo]

Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install?

 

 

"psongman" <psongman@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:1188573320.388537.167540@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> Hi, WOW, thanks for the great insight and ideas. I do understand why

> it would be better for a reinstall, but the computer is working quite

> well. I guess what I was hinting at in my inquiry was...what really

> happened after the install of Windows 2000 PRO? I mean what occurred

> to all the files and programs that were in the Windows 98 section and

> why aren't there any programs in ADD/REMOVE or in the STARTUP menu?

>

> When you are not overly computer literate, but know how to maneuver

> around on one, these questions defy understanding. The computer I

> installed Windows 2000 PRO on didn't have any of my programs on it, so

> following your procedures wouldn't be that diffcult....but, I won't be

> using it that much as my other main computer that I use for recording

> music and a few other works is Windows XP HOME< haha, had to mention

> that.

>

> I do have to say one wonderful thing about Windows 2000, whew, it

> boots up and turns off in like 10 seconds. I could get like 2 cups of

> coffee when it boots up and like 3 beers (yes, I drink fast, jk) when

> it closes down on my ancient Windows 98 neanderthal station. Anyway, I

> will do a bit more research but probably will reinstall as I don't

> want some of the problems that have come up on my old Windows 98SE

> machine....I mean like it is hanging all the time now, and I clean,

> flush, defrag, etc, but when they get gummed up, near the end.

> Appreciate your assistance, psongman

>

>

 

As mentioned upgrading win98 to win2k can lead to some major problems...

However it looks like what you did was to install win2k in a seperate

folder...

in other words...you did not upgrade your win98...you merely installed win2k

as a second operating system.

 

As long as you do not boot back to win98 you should be fine...as your Win2k

is essentially a clean install.

 

Since your previous applications were installed on the win98 section...they

will not work on win2k...

so you will need to reinstall all your applications.

 

Note...your original data will still be on the machine...

probably in your win98 profile (if you search, you should find it)

[Guest Dave Patrick]

Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install?

 

Sounds like you installed a dual-boot instead of an upgrade. Do you have two

startup choices just after POST?

 

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Regards,

 

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

http://www.microsoft.com/protect

 

"psongman" wrote:

> Hi, WOW, thanks for the great insight and ideas. I do understand why

> it would be better for a reinstall, but the computer is working quite

> well. I guess what I was hinting at in my inquiry was...what really

> happened after the install of Windows 2000 PRO? I mean what occurred

> to all the files and programs that were in the Windows 98 section and

> why aren't there any programs in ADD/REMOVE or in the STARTUP menu?

>

> When you are not overly computer literate, but know how to maneuver

> around on one, these questions defy understanding. The computer I

> installed Windows 2000 PRO on didn't have any of my programs on it, so

> following your procedures wouldn't be that diffcult....but, I won't be

> using it that much as my other main computer that I use for recording

> music and a few other works is Windows XP HOME< haha, had to mention

> that.

>

> I do have to say one wonderful thing about Windows 2000, whew, it

> boots up and turns off in like 10 seconds. I could get like 2 cups of

> coffee when it boots up and like 3 beers (yes, I drink fast, jk) when

> it closes down on my ancient Windows 98 neanderthal station. Anyway, I

> will do a bit more research but probably will reinstall as I don't

> want some of the problems that have come up on my old Windows 98SE

> machine....I mean like it is hanging all the time now, and I clean,

> flush, defrag, etc, but when they get gummed up, near the end.

> Appreciate your assistance, psongman

>

>

[Guest psongman]

Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install?

 

Hi, yes, I "had" two choices on bootup, but I changed the boot ini,

file and now Windows 2000 is the default. I am still not understanding

what you mean by a Windows 98 section. Where is at and can I get at it

and tailor it for my needs?

 

So, you are saying that when you install an OS, there are no programs

running and there are none in the startup folder? I don't see how that

could be possible but must be. Thanks for replying, psongman

[Guest Dave Patrick]

Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install?

 

You installed a clean installation of Windows 2000 either in a separate

folder or separate partition. The choice you deleted from boot.ini was the

option to start the original installation of Windows 98

 

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Regards,

 

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

http://www.microsoft.com/protect

 

"psongman" wrote:

> Hi, yes, I "had" two choices on bootup, but I changed the boot ini,

> file and now Windows 2000 is the default. I am still not understanding

> what you mean by a Windows 98 section. Where is at and can I get at it

> and tailor it for my needs?

>

> So, you are saying that when you install an OS, there are no programs

> running and there are none in the startup folder? I don't see how that

> could be possible but must be. Thanks for replying, psongman

>

>