Guest psongman Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Hi, I hope you can help me with some unexpected results after installing Windows 2000 Pro. What happened was, I was having so much trouble with my Windows 98 that I decided to upgrade. However, I put the new OS on top of the ole 98. I followed some instructions on the Net, and got it to boot up using the new OS by changing boot ini, etc. but here is what is strange. It says there are no programs in the add/remove programs area and it is acting like the Windows 2000 area is not connected to the 98 stuff, but I can use all the programs in the program files area. So, what should I do to make it work smoothly? I will stop updating all the stuff I had before, you know, like WMP, Realplayer, Adobe Acrobat, and other proggies like that, until you counsel me. Final note, there are no startup items, either, this is too wierd, but they are all there somehow. Thanks for assisting, appreciate it, psongman
Guest John John Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install? psongman wrote: > Hi, I hope you can help me with some unexpected results after > installing Windows 2000 Pro. What happened was, I was having so much > trouble with my Windows 98 that I decided to upgrade. However, I put > the new OS on top of the ole 98. > > I followed some instructions on the Net, and got it to boot up using > the new OS by changing boot ini, etc. but here is what is strange. It > says there are no programs in the add/remove programs area and it is > acting like the Windows 2000 area is not connected to the 98 stuff, > but I can use all the programs in the program files area. > > So, what should I do to make it work smoothly? I will stop updating > all the stuff I had before, you know, like WMP, Realplayer, Adobe > Acrobat, and other proggies like that, until you counsel me. Final > note, there are no startup items, either, this is too wierd, but they > are all there somehow. > > Thanks for assisting, appreciate it, psongman Upgrades from Windows 98 to Windows 2000 are almost always problematic and doomed to fail for one reason or another. If you want a sturdy, reliable Windows 2000 installation you should format your drive and install Windows 2000 cleanly, you will have a much better installation and in turn it will lead to a better computing experience. Windows 2000 is an extremely reliable and robust operating system but it has to be properly installed if you want it to work properly. After you install the operating system install the latest service pack and hotfixes. DO NOT connect the unpatched computer to the internet without a properly configured firewall! As installed Windows 2000 is EXTREMELY vulnerable to worms and virus if not properly protected. These are what I would consider as bare minimum on a new Windows 2000 installation: http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/servicepacks/sp4/default.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/rollup.mspx John
Guest Dave Patrick Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install? Sounds like you installed a dual-boot instead of an upgrade. Be advised that upgrades from win9x almost always fail for any number of reasons. Save yourself some time and trouble, given that you'll more than likely end up with an unstable OS with all the remnants/ corruption left behind from the upgrade. Best to blow it all away and go for the clean install. To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000 CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the prompts. (Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want to boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver for your drive controller in drive "A") Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional. Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of the license agreement and continue the installation. When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use all available space. Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast) http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx Then Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en During Windows 2000 setup, at some point, will want to confirm the previous operating system for the upgrade; at that point you'll simply insert the qualified product install CD for it to verify. Then the install will proceed. Check the pc, mb or hardware manufacturer's web site for the latest bios and or Windows 2000 drivers for your devices. -- Regards, Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect "psongman" wrote: > Hi, I hope you can help me with some unexpected results after > installing Windows 2000 Pro. What happened was, I was having so much > trouble with my Windows 98 that I decided to upgrade. However, I put > the new OS on top of the ole 98. > > I followed some instructions on the Net, and got it to boot up using > the new OS by changing boot ini, etc. but here is what is strange. It > says there are no programs in the add/remove programs area and it is > acting like the Windows 2000 area is not connected to the 98 stuff, > but I can use all the programs in the program files area. > > So, what should I do to make it work smoothly? I will stop updating > all the stuff I had before, you know, like WMP, Realplayer, Adobe > Acrobat, and other proggies like that, until you counsel me. Final > note, there are no startup items, either, this is too wierd, but they > are all there somehow. > > Thanks for assisting, appreciate it, psongman >
Guest psongman Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install? Hi, WOW, thanks for the great insight and ideas. I do understand why it would be better for a reinstall, but the computer is working quite well. I guess what I was hinting at in my inquiry was...what really happened after the install of Windows 2000 PRO? I mean what occurred to all the files and programs that were in the Windows 98 section and why aren't there any programs in ADD/REMOVE or in the STARTUP menu? When you are not overly computer literate, but know how to maneuver around on one, these questions defy understanding. The computer I installed Windows 2000 PRO on didn't have any of my programs on it, so following your procedures wouldn't be that diffcult....but, I won't be using it that much as my other main computer that I use for recording music and a few other works is Windows XP HOME< haha, had to mention that. I do have to say one wonderful thing about Windows 2000, whew, it boots up and turns off in like 10 seconds. I could get like 2 cups of coffee when it boots up and like 3 beers (yes, I drink fast, jk) when it closes down on my ancient Windows 98 neanderthal station. Anyway, I will do a bit more research but probably will reinstall as I don't want some of the problems that have come up on my old Windows 98SE machine....I mean like it is hanging all the time now, and I clean, flush, defrag, etc, but when they get gummed up, near the end. Appreciate your assistance, psongman
Guest philo Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install? "psongman" <psongman@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1188573320.388537.167540@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > Hi, WOW, thanks for the great insight and ideas. I do understand why > it would be better for a reinstall, but the computer is working quite > well. I guess what I was hinting at in my inquiry was...what really > happened after the install of Windows 2000 PRO? I mean what occurred > to all the files and programs that were in the Windows 98 section and > why aren't there any programs in ADD/REMOVE or in the STARTUP menu? > > When you are not overly computer literate, but know how to maneuver > around on one, these questions defy understanding. The computer I > installed Windows 2000 PRO on didn't have any of my programs on it, so > following your procedures wouldn't be that diffcult....but, I won't be > using it that much as my other main computer that I use for recording > music and a few other works is Windows XP HOME< haha, had to mention > that. > > I do have to say one wonderful thing about Windows 2000, whew, it > boots up and turns off in like 10 seconds. I could get like 2 cups of > coffee when it boots up and like 3 beers (yes, I drink fast, jk) when > it closes down on my ancient Windows 98 neanderthal station. Anyway, I > will do a bit more research but probably will reinstall as I don't > want some of the problems that have come up on my old Windows 98SE > machine....I mean like it is hanging all the time now, and I clean, > flush, defrag, etc, but when they get gummed up, near the end. > Appreciate your assistance, psongman > > As mentioned upgrading win98 to win2k can lead to some major problems... However it looks like what you did was to install win2k in a seperate folder... in other words...you did not upgrade your win98...you merely installed win2k as a second operating system. As long as you do not boot back to win98 you should be fine...as your Win2k is essentially a clean install. Since your previous applications were installed on the win98 section...they will not work on win2k... so you will need to reinstall all your applications. Note...your original data will still be on the machine... probably in your win98 profile (if you search, you should find it)
Guest Dave Patrick Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install? Sounds like you installed a dual-boot instead of an upgrade. Do you have two startup choices just after POST? -- Regards, Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect "psongman" wrote: > Hi, WOW, thanks for the great insight and ideas. I do understand why > it would be better for a reinstall, but the computer is working quite > well. I guess what I was hinting at in my inquiry was...what really > happened after the install of Windows 2000 PRO? I mean what occurred > to all the files and programs that were in the Windows 98 section and > why aren't there any programs in ADD/REMOVE or in the STARTUP menu? > > When you are not overly computer literate, but know how to maneuver > around on one, these questions defy understanding. The computer I > installed Windows 2000 PRO on didn't have any of my programs on it, so > following your procedures wouldn't be that diffcult....but, I won't be > using it that much as my other main computer that I use for recording > music and a few other works is Windows XP HOME< haha, had to mention > that. > > I do have to say one wonderful thing about Windows 2000, whew, it > boots up and turns off in like 10 seconds. I could get like 2 cups of > coffee when it boots up and like 3 beers (yes, I drink fast, jk) when > it closes down on my ancient Windows 98 neanderthal station. Anyway, I > will do a bit more research but probably will reinstall as I don't > want some of the problems that have come up on my old Windows 98SE > machine....I mean like it is hanging all the time now, and I clean, > flush, defrag, etc, but when they get gummed up, near the end. > Appreciate your assistance, psongman > >
Guest psongman Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install? Hi, yes, I "had" two choices on bootup, but I changed the boot ini, file and now Windows 2000 is the default. I am still not understanding what you mean by a Windows 98 section. Where is at and can I get at it and tailor it for my needs? So, you are saying that when you install an OS, there are no programs running and there are none in the startup folder? I don't see how that could be possible but must be. Thanks for replying, psongman
Guest Dave Patrick Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: Need a little help after Windows 2000 Pro install? You installed a clean installation of Windows 2000 either in a separate folder or separate partition. The choice you deleted from boot.ini was the option to start the original installation of Windows 98 -- Regards, Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect "psongman" wrote: > Hi, yes, I "had" two choices on bootup, but I changed the boot ini, > file and now Windows 2000 is the default. I am still not understanding > what you mean by a Windows 98 section. Where is at and can I get at it > and tailor it for my needs? > > So, you are saying that when you install an OS, there are no programs > running and there are none in the startup folder? I don't see how that > could be possible but must be. Thanks for replying, psongman > >
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