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Guest Clayton
Posted

Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major problems to

report except for:

 

1. Could not install PowerDVD had to use WinDVD

 

2. All my DivX avi movies I acumulated over time would start to cause

problems an inch from the bottom of the video when it is in a small window,

full screen seeems to be ok.

 

3. DivX is not supported for Vista 64, now using XviD

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Guest Clayton
Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

Furthermore I am getting this error in Device Manager

 

Log Name: System

Source: Application Popup

Date: 3/09/2007 4:53:25 p.m.

Event ID: 1060

Task Category: None

Level: Error

Keywords: Classic

User: N/A

Computer: DESKTOP

Description:

\SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\GEARAspiWDM.sys has been blocked from loading

due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor

for a compatible version of the driver.

Event Xml:

<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">

<System>

<Provider Name="Application Popup" />

<EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>

<Level>2</Level>

<Task>0</Task>

<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>

<TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-09-03T04:53:25.757Z" />

<EventRecordID>8949</EventRecordID>

<Channel>System</Channel>

<Computer>DESKTOP</Computer>

<Security />

</System>

<EventData>

<Data>

</Data>

<Data>\SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\GEARAspiWDM.sys</Data>

<Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006C0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>

</EventData>

</Event>

 

 

 

 

"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

news:OPnY%23Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major problems

> to report except for:

>

> 1. Could not install PowerDVD had to use WinDVD

>

> 2. All my DivX avi movies I acumulated over time would start to cause

> problems an inch from the bottom of the video when it is in a small

> window, full screen seeems to be ok.

>

> 3. DivX is not supported for Vista 64, now using XviD

>

>

>

Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

Clayton:

If you use the 32-bit version of WMP, which is the default one, use the

freeware multiformat audio/video decoder ffdshow

(http://www.free-codecs.com/download/FFDShow.htm)

This way you will be able to play your Divx encoded videos again.

If you want to watch DVD's, use the freeware Media Player Classic Home

Cinema (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Media_Player_Classic.htm)

If you use the 64-bit version of WMP, use the freeware multiformat

audio/video decoder ffdshow for x64

(http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mirror/ffdshow/). The file is the one labeled

ffdshow_rev1328....exe

Carlos

 

"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> escribió en el mensaje de noticias

news:OPnY%23Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major problems

> to report except for:

>

> 1. Could not install PowerDVD had to use WinDVD

>

> 2. All my DivX avi movies I acumulated over time would start to cause

> problems an inch from the bottom of the video when it is in a small

> window, full screen seeems to be ok.

>

> 3. DivX is not supported for Vista 64, now using XviD

>

>

>

Guest R. C. White
Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

Hi, Clayton.

 

Congratulations! ;<)

 

But, for the benefit of newbies who may be lurking, please clarify that you

did not "upgrade to 64-bit". You clean installed 64-bit, right?

 

To the best of my knowledge, there is not yet - or in the foreseeable

future - a way to "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit - or from 64-bit to

32-bit. There are too many hardware and driver differences to allow an

upgrade in either direction. We can use the "Upgrade" version of Vista x64,

if we have a qualifying 32-bit version of Windows installed, but the actual

64-bit installation must be a clean install.

 

Did you change (migrate? switch? update? transition? I can't think of a

good word for the process of installing 64-bit to replace 32-bit. Maybe

"upgrade" is the best word we have for now, so long as we clarify what we

mean.) from WinXP Pro (32-bit), or WinXP x64 or Vista x86 - or some other

operating system? Did you run Vista Setup from within the prior Windows?

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

 

"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

news:OPnY#Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major problems

> to report except for:

>

> 1. Could not install PowerDVD had to use WinDVD

>

> 2. All my DivX avi movies I acumulated over time would start to cause

> problems an inch from the bottom of the video when it is in a small

> window, full screen seeems to be ok.

>

> 3. DivX is not supported for Vista 64, now using XviD

Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

http://www.divx.com/divx/windows/download/index.php

 

 

"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

news:OPnY%23Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major problems

> to report except for:

>

> 1. Could not install PowerDVD had to use WinDVD

>

> 2. All my DivX avi movies I acumulated over time would start to cause

> problems an inch from the bottom of the video when it is in a small

> window, full screen seeems to be ok.

>

> 3. DivX is not supported for Vista 64, now using XviD

>

>

>

Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

Well, you might just try the word "installed." It works no matter how he did

it.

Bottom line...

... it's takes a little planning

 

For clarification on how to "upgrade" to x64: (especially for those with an

"upgrade" license.)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

 

It's been a good move.

 

 

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

news:D14C73E5-D603-4A81-BBC8-E07FCD53522D@microsoft.com...

> Hi, Clayton.

>

> Congratulations! ;<)

>

> But, for the benefit of newbies who may be lurking, please clarify that

> you did not "upgrade to 64-bit". You clean installed 64-bit, right?

>

> To the best of my knowledge, there is not yet - or in the foreseeable

> future - a way to "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit - or from 64-bit to

> 32-bit. There are too many hardware and driver differences to allow an

> upgrade in either direction. We can use the "Upgrade" version of Vista

> x64, if we have a qualifying 32-bit version of Windows installed, but the

> actual 64-bit installation must be a clean install.

>

> Did you change (migrate? switch? update? transition? I can't think of a

> good word for the process of installing 64-bit to replace 32-bit. Maybe

> "upgrade" is the best word we have for now, so long as we clarify what we

> mean.) from WinXP Pro (32-bit), or WinXP x64 or Vista x86 - or some other

> operating system? Did you run Vista Setup from within the prior Windows?

>

> RC

> --

> R. C. White, CPA

> San Marcos, TX

> rc@grandecom.net

> Microsoft Windows MVP

> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

>

> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

> news:OPnY#Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major problems

>> to report except for:

>>

>> 1. Could not install PowerDVD had to use WinDVD

>>

>> 2. All my DivX avi movies I acumulated over time would start to cause

>> problems an inch from the bottom of the video when it is in a small

>> window, full screen seeems to be ok.

>>

>> 3. DivX is not supported for Vista 64, now using XviD

>

Guest R. C. White
Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

Hi, Mark.

 

Thanks for that KB URL. And you sure are right: Upgrading to Vista x64

"takes a little planning" is a bit of an understatement!

 

My comment was meant, as I said, to warn newbies that "upgrade" has two

meanings in this context:

1. The right to upgrade, as spelled out in the license and the EULA.

Slightly challenging.

 

2. The actual process of "upgrading to" the new Vista. VERY challenging.

 

Even when the user clearly has the upgrade license, the process of using

that license to actually do the upgrade can be very frustrating!

 

Last week I did an "in-place upgrade", also known as a "repair install", of

my Vista Ultimate x64. I wasn't actually upgrading to anything new, just

reinstalling the system I've been running since December to clean up some

corruption that had crept in. The actual update process took me FIVE HOURS!

:>( I was very tempted to press the Reset button several times during the

process when there were black screens with NO feedback lasting 10 minutes or

more each time. And, even after it was supposedly finished, there were

several steps to restore some of my favorite tweaks. Then, of course, I had

to visit Windows Update to get the 20+ fixes issued since RTM; this also

involved several reboots.

 

If it is that time-consuming to "upgrade" to my existing Vista x64, I wonder

how long it would take to "upgrade" from WinXP x64 or another x64 version of

Vista?

 

I would be very reluctant to advise an "upgrade" to Vista x64 except for

experienced users who are adamant about preserving existing applications and

who are prepared to follow the steps in the KB article. It is NOT like

upgrading from Win98 to WinXP!

> It's been a good move.

 

Does this comment mean that you did the "upgrade", Mark? From what to what?

Please tell us about your experience.

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

 

"Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

news:89F09136-1CE5-4CBB-93CA-82D8D28143F7@microsoft.com...

> Well, you might just try the word "installed." It works no matter how he

> did it.

> Bottom line...

> ... it's takes a little planning

>

> For clarification on how to "upgrade" to x64: (especially for those with

> an "upgrade" license.)

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>

> It's been a good move.

>

>

> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

> news:D14C73E5-D603-4A81-BBC8-E07FCD53522D@microsoft.com...

>> Hi, Clayton.

>>

>> Congratulations! ;<)

>>

>> But, for the benefit of newbies who may be lurking, please clarify that

>> you did not "upgrade to 64-bit". You clean installed 64-bit, right?

>>

>> To the best of my knowledge, there is not yet - or in the foreseeable

>> future - a way to "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit - or from 64-bit to

>> 32-bit. There are too many hardware and driver differences to allow an

>> upgrade in either direction. We can use the "Upgrade" version of Vista

>> x64, if we have a qualifying 32-bit version of Windows installed, but the

>> actual 64-bit installation must be a clean install.

>>

>> Did you change (migrate? switch? update? transition? I can't think of

>> a good word for the process of installing 64-bit to replace 32-bit.

>> Maybe "upgrade" is the best word we have for now, so long as we clarify

>> what we mean.) from WinXP Pro (32-bit), or WinXP x64 or Vista x86 - or

>> some other operating system? Did you run Vista Setup from within the

>> prior Windows?

>>

>> RC

>>

>> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

>> news:OPnY#Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major problems

>>> to report except for:

<SNIP>

Guest jabloomf1230
Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

This driver is usually installed with iTunes to allow iTunes to read

CDs. The driver is incompatible with Vista64. Check the GEAR website to

see if they have an update:

 

http://www.gearsoftware.com/index.cfm

 

 

Clayton wrote:

> Furthermore I am getting this error in Device Manager

>

> Log Name: System

> Source: Application Popup

> Date: 3/09/2007 4:53:25 p.m.

> Event ID: 1060

> Task Category: None

> Level: Error

> Keywords: Classic

> User: N/A

> Computer: DESKTOP

> Description:

> \SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\GEARAspiWDM.sys has been blocked from

Guest jabloomf1230
Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

PowerDVD needs an update to the most recent version, to run under

Vista64. I have PowerDVD and it works fine.

 

Clayton wrote:

> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major problems

> to report except for:

>

> 1. Could not install PowerDVD had to use WinDVD

>

> 2. All my DivX avi movies I acumulated over time would start to cause

> problems an inch from the bottom of the video when it is in a small

> window, full screen seeems to be ok.

>

> 3. DivX is not supported for Vista 64, now using XviD

>

>

>

Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

I originally went with Vista Home Premium 32-bit as an upgrade to XP Pro.

About a month later, I took the plunge and went for a Windows Anytime

Upgrade to Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

 

Then I found that I could recompile and optimize my modeling tools for

64-bit. Since they are math intensive, 64-bit started looming on the brain,

but there are a lot of trouble comments within this newsgroup and others

about 64-bit. So, I researched a lot of them including the link I provided

and came to realize it's not the problem it was only five years ago. End

result, I actually performed a "Vista x64 upgrade" as described in the

article.

 

I wiped my hard drive, installed XP Pro, then "upgraded" to Vista Home

Premium x64. (Couldn't go straight to Ultimate because Windows Anytime

Upgrade will only work with an activated version of Vista installed.) This

installation went fast and pain free. Then came Windows Anytime Upgrade to

Vista Ultimate 64-bit. It didn't work the first time and the system reverted

back to Home Premium. I forgot a lesson learned. Don't use the automatic

updates during installation. It worked the second time. I had to phone

activate Vista Home Premium because it was previously installed less than

120 days and then phone activate again once the Windows Anytime Upgrade is

done. Once the operating system was fully installed, then I downloaded

drivers (Windows updates first, then vendors for hardware that needs it.

Ignore screen settings and glitches until this is all done.) Reboot for the

umpteeth time and Wow!

 

It all works and it's rock stable.

Installed all my applications and then made a 100% backup so I don't have to

go through all of that again!

Total time was about six hours.

 

Since then, I've found the modeling tools are very fast and efficient and I

haven't lost any of my 32-bit functionality. Finding an Anti-virus,

Firewall, etc was a bit challenging, (I didn't want it to just run in

32-bit) but I had looked during the "planning" stage and found some good

64-bit products. Now, I look for everything I get to be 64-bit. While it's a

longer search than 32-bit programs, you can find most tools in 64-bit. Games

and media are still mostly 32-bit, but the tide is turning. And, to help,

Windows x64 defaults Internet Explorer and Media Player to 32 bit since

things like Flash Player won't work in x64. So, now it's the best of both.

 

 

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

news:62692E99-E6B5-42F3-8FCD-456E4FE4D840@microsoft.com...

> Hi, Mark.

>

> Thanks for that KB URL. And you sure are right: Upgrading to Vista x64

> "takes a little planning" is a bit of an understatement!

>

> My comment was meant, as I said, to warn newbies that "upgrade" has two

> meanings in this context:

> 1. The right to upgrade, as spelled out in the license and the EULA.

> Slightly challenging.

>

> 2. The actual process of "upgrading to" the new Vista. VERY challenging.

>

> Even when the user clearly has the upgrade license, the process of using

> that license to actually do the upgrade can be very frustrating!

>

> Last week I did an "in-place upgrade", also known as a "repair install",

> of my Vista Ultimate x64. I wasn't actually upgrading to anything new,

> just reinstalling the system I've been running since December to clean up

> some corruption that had crept in. The actual update process took me FIVE

> HOURS! :>( I was very tempted to press the Reset button several times

> during the process when there were black screens with NO feedback lasting

> 10 minutes or more each time. And, even after it was supposedly finished,

> there were several steps to restore some of my favorite tweaks. Then, of

> course, I had to visit Windows Update to get the 20+ fixes issued since

> RTM; this also involved several reboots.

>

> If it is that time-consuming to "upgrade" to my existing Vista x64, I

> wonder how long it would take to "upgrade" from WinXP x64 or another x64

> version of Vista?

>

> I would be very reluctant to advise an "upgrade" to Vista x64 except for

> experienced users who are adamant about preserving existing applications

> and who are prepared to follow the steps in the KB article. It is NOT

> like upgrading from Win98 to WinXP!

>

>> It's been a good move.

>

> Does this comment mean that you did the "upgrade", Mark? From what to

> what? Please tell us about your experience.

>

> RC

> --

> R. C. White, CPA

> San Marcos, TX

> rc@grandecom.net

> Microsoft Windows MVP

> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

>

> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

> news:89F09136-1CE5-4CBB-93CA-82D8D28143F7@microsoft.com...

>> Well, you might just try the word "installed." It works no matter how he

>> did it.

>> Bottom line...

>> ... it's takes a little planning

>>

>> For clarification on how to "upgrade" to x64: (especially for those with

>> an "upgrade" license.)

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>>

>> It's been a good move.

>>

>>

>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

>> news:D14C73E5-D603-4A81-BBC8-E07FCD53522D@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi, Clayton.

>>>

>>> Congratulations! ;<)

>>>

>>> But, for the benefit of newbies who may be lurking, please clarify that

>>> you did not "upgrade to 64-bit". You clean installed 64-bit, right?

>>>

>>> To the best of my knowledge, there is not yet - or in the foreseeable

>>> future - a way to "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit - or from 64-bit to

>>> 32-bit. There are too many hardware and driver differences to allow an

>>> upgrade in either direction. We can use the "Upgrade" version of Vista

>>> x64, if we have a qualifying 32-bit version of Windows installed, but

>>> the actual 64-bit installation must be a clean install.

>>>

>>> Did you change (migrate? switch? update? transition? I can't think of

>>> a good word for the process of installing 64-bit to replace 32-bit.

>>> Maybe "upgrade" is the best word we have for now, so long as we clarify

>>> what we mean.) from WinXP Pro (32-bit), or WinXP x64 or Vista x86 - or

>>> some other operating system? Did you run Vista Setup from within the

>>> prior Windows?

>>>

>>> RC

>>>

>>> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

>>> news:OPnY#Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major

>>>> problems to report except for:

> <SNIP>

Guest John Barnes
Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

I agree with RC. There is no path to upgrade a 32-bit version to 64-bit

version. If you mean you used to upgrade version to 'custom install' the

64-bit version, I will agree.

 

"Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

news:7A2C2215-0C7E-4058-8995-2959E11C373F@microsoft.com...

>I originally went with Vista Home Premium 32-bit as an upgrade to XP Pro.

>About a month later, I took the plunge and went for a Windows Anytime

>Upgrade to Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

>

> Then I found that I could recompile and optimize my modeling tools for

> 64-bit. Since they are math intensive, 64-bit started looming on the

> brain, but there are a lot of trouble comments within this newsgroup and

> others about 64-bit. So, I researched a lot of them including the link I

> provided and came to realize it's not the problem it was only five years

> ago. End result, I actually performed a "Vista x64 upgrade" as described

> in the article.

>

> I wiped my hard drive, installed XP Pro, then "upgraded" to Vista Home

> Premium x64. (Couldn't go straight to Ultimate because Windows Anytime

> Upgrade will only work with an activated version of Vista installed.) This

> installation went fast and pain free. Then came Windows Anytime Upgrade to

> Vista Ultimate 64-bit. It didn't work the first time and the system

> reverted back to Home Premium. I forgot a lesson learned. Don't use the

> automatic updates during installation. It worked the second time. I had to

> phone activate Vista Home Premium because it was previously installed less

> than 120 days and then phone activate again once the Windows Anytime

> Upgrade is done. Once the operating system was fully installed, then I

> downloaded drivers (Windows updates first, then vendors for hardware that

> needs it. Ignore screen settings and glitches until this is all done.)

> Reboot for the umpteeth time and Wow!

>

> It all works and it's rock stable.

> Installed all my applications and then made a 100% backup so I don't have

> to go through all of that again!

> Total time was about six hours.

>

> Since then, I've found the modeling tools are very fast and efficient and

> I haven't lost any of my 32-bit functionality. Finding an Anti-virus,

> Firewall, etc was a bit challenging, (I didn't want it to just run in

> 32-bit) but I had looked during the "planning" stage and found some good

> 64-bit products. Now, I look for everything I get to be 64-bit. While it's

> a longer search than 32-bit programs, you can find most tools in 64-bit.

> Games and media are still mostly 32-bit, but the tide is turning. And, to

> help, Windows x64 defaults Internet Explorer and Media Player to 32 bit

> since things like Flash Player won't work in x64. So, now it's the best of

> both.

>

>

> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

> news:62692E99-E6B5-42F3-8FCD-456E4FE4D840@microsoft.com...

>> Hi, Mark.

>>

>> Thanks for that KB URL. And you sure are right: Upgrading to Vista x64

>> "takes a little planning" is a bit of an understatement!

>>

>> My comment was meant, as I said, to warn newbies that "upgrade" has two

>> meanings in this context:

>> 1. The right to upgrade, as spelled out in the license and the EULA.

>> Slightly challenging.

>>

>> 2. The actual process of "upgrading to" the new Vista. VERY

>> challenging.

>>

>> Even when the user clearly has the upgrade license, the process of using

>> that license to actually do the upgrade can be very frustrating!

>>

>> Last week I did an "in-place upgrade", also known as a "repair install",

>> of my Vista Ultimate x64. I wasn't actually upgrading to anything new,

>> just reinstalling the system I've been running since December to clean up

>> some corruption that had crept in. The actual update process took me

>> FIVE HOURS! :>( I was very tempted to press the Reset button several

>> times during the process when there were black screens with NO feedback

>> lasting 10 minutes or more each time. And, even after it was supposedly

>> finished, there were several steps to restore some of my favorite tweaks.

>> Then, of course, I had to visit Windows Update to get the 20+ fixes

>> issued since RTM; this also involved several reboots.

>>

>> If it is that time-consuming to "upgrade" to my existing Vista x64, I

>> wonder how long it would take to "upgrade" from WinXP x64 or another x64

>> version of Vista?

>>

>> I would be very reluctant to advise an "upgrade" to Vista x64 except for

>> experienced users who are adamant about preserving existing applications

>> and who are prepared to follow the steps in the KB article. It is NOT

>> like upgrading from Win98 to WinXP!

>>

>>> It's been a good move.

>>

>> Does this comment mean that you did the "upgrade", Mark? From what to

>> what? Please tell us about your experience.

>>

>> RC

>> --

>> R. C. White, CPA

>> San Marcos, TX

>> rc@grandecom.net

>> Microsoft Windows MVP

>> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

>>

>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

>> news:89F09136-1CE5-4CBB-93CA-82D8D28143F7@microsoft.com...

>>> Well, you might just try the word "installed." It works no matter how he

>>> did it.

>>> Bottom line...

>>> ... it's takes a little planning

>>>

>>> For clarification on how to "upgrade" to x64: (especially for those with

>>> an "upgrade" license.)

>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>>>

>>> It's been a good move.

>>>

>>>

>>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

>>> news:D14C73E5-D603-4A81-BBC8-E07FCD53522D@microsoft.com...

>>>> Hi, Clayton.

>>>>

>>>> Congratulations! ;<)

>>>>

>>>> But, for the benefit of newbies who may be lurking, please clarify that

>>>> you did not "upgrade to 64-bit". You clean installed 64-bit, right?

>>>>

>>>> To the best of my knowledge, there is not yet - or in the foreseeable

>>>> future - a way to "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit - or from 64-bit to

>>>> 32-bit. There are too many hardware and driver differences to allow an

>>>> upgrade in either direction. We can use the "Upgrade" version of Vista

>>>> x64, if we have a qualifying 32-bit version of Windows installed, but

>>>> the actual 64-bit installation must be a clean install.

>>>>

>>>> Did you change (migrate? switch? update? transition? I can't think

>>>> of a good word for the process of installing 64-bit to replace 32-bit.

>>>> Maybe "upgrade" is the best word we have for now, so long as we clarify

>>>> what we mean.) from WinXP Pro (32-bit), or WinXP x64 or Vista x86 - or

>>>> some other operating system? Did you run Vista Setup from within the

>>>> prior Windows?

>>>>

>>>> RC

>>>>

>>>> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

>>>> news:OPnY#Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major

>>>>> problems to report except for:

>> <SNIP>

>

Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

Mark:

You can use WMP 64-bit as your default player if you install the x64 version

of ffdshow mentioned in my post.

Those x64 decoders work also with Movie Maker and - I think - DVD Maker.

Carlos

 

"Mark" wrote:

> I originally went with Vista Home Premium 32-bit as an upgrade to XP Pro.

> About a month later, I took the plunge and went for a Windows Anytime

> Upgrade to Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

>

> Then I found that I could recompile and optimize my modeling tools for

> 64-bit. Since they are math intensive, 64-bit started looming on the brain,

> but there are a lot of trouble comments within this newsgroup and others

> about 64-bit. So, I researched a lot of them including the link I provided

> and came to realize it's not the problem it was only five years ago. End

> result, I actually performed a "Vista x64 upgrade" as described in the

> article.

>

> I wiped my hard drive, installed XP Pro, then "upgraded" to Vista Home

> Premium x64. (Couldn't go straight to Ultimate because Windows Anytime

> Upgrade will only work with an activated version of Vista installed.) This

> installation went fast and pain free. Then came Windows Anytime Upgrade to

> Vista Ultimate 64-bit. It didn't work the first time and the system reverted

> back to Home Premium. I forgot a lesson learned. Don't use the automatic

> updates during installation. It worked the second time. I had to phone

> activate Vista Home Premium because it was previously installed less than

> 120 days and then phone activate again once the Windows Anytime Upgrade is

> done. Once the operating system was fully installed, then I downloaded

> drivers (Windows updates first, then vendors for hardware that needs it.

> Ignore screen settings and glitches until this is all done.) Reboot for the

> umpteeth time and Wow!

>

> It all works and it's rock stable.

> Installed all my applications and then made a 100% backup so I don't have to

> go through all of that again!

> Total time was about six hours.

>

> Since then, I've found the modeling tools are very fast and efficient and I

> haven't lost any of my 32-bit functionality. Finding an Anti-virus,

> Firewall, etc was a bit challenging, (I didn't want it to just run in

> 32-bit) but I had looked during the "planning" stage and found some good

> 64-bit products. Now, I look for everything I get to be 64-bit. While it's a

> longer search than 32-bit programs, you can find most tools in 64-bit. Games

> and media are still mostly 32-bit, but the tide is turning. And, to help,

> Windows x64 defaults Internet Explorer and Media Player to 32 bit since

> things like Flash Player won't work in x64. So, now it's the best of both.

>

>

> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

> news:62692E99-E6B5-42F3-8FCD-456E4FE4D840@microsoft.com...

> > Hi, Mark.

> >

> > Thanks for that KB URL. And you sure are right: Upgrading to Vista x64

> > "takes a little planning" is a bit of an understatement!

> >

> > My comment was meant, as I said, to warn newbies that "upgrade" has two

> > meanings in this context:

> > 1. The right to upgrade, as spelled out in the license and the EULA.

> > Slightly challenging.

> >

> > 2. The actual process of "upgrading to" the new Vista. VERY challenging.

> >

> > Even when the user clearly has the upgrade license, the process of using

> > that license to actually do the upgrade can be very frustrating!

> >

> > Last week I did an "in-place upgrade", also known as a "repair install",

> > of my Vista Ultimate x64. I wasn't actually upgrading to anything new,

> > just reinstalling the system I've been running since December to clean up

> > some corruption that had crept in. The actual update process took me FIVE

> > HOURS! :>( I was very tempted to press the Reset button several times

> > during the process when there were black screens with NO feedback lasting

> > 10 minutes or more each time. And, even after it was supposedly finished,

> > there were several steps to restore some of my favorite tweaks. Then, of

> > course, I had to visit Windows Update to get the 20+ fixes issued since

> > RTM; this also involved several reboots.

> >

> > If it is that time-consuming to "upgrade" to my existing Vista x64, I

> > wonder how long it would take to "upgrade" from WinXP x64 or another x64

> > version of Vista?

> >

> > I would be very reluctant to advise an "upgrade" to Vista x64 except for

> > experienced users who are adamant about preserving existing applications

> > and who are prepared to follow the steps in the KB article. It is NOT

> > like upgrading from Win98 to WinXP!

> >

> >> It's been a good move.

> >

> > Does this comment mean that you did the "upgrade", Mark? From what to

> > what? Please tell us about your experience.

> >

> > RC

> > --

> > R. C. White, CPA

> > San Marcos, TX

> > rc@grandecom.net

> > Microsoft Windows MVP

> > (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

> >

> > "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

> > news:89F09136-1CE5-4CBB-93CA-82D8D28143F7@microsoft.com...

> >> Well, you might just try the word "installed." It works no matter how he

> >> did it.

> >> Bottom line...

> >> ... it's takes a little planning

> >>

> >> For clarification on how to "upgrade" to x64: (especially for those with

> >> an "upgrade" license.)

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

> >>

> >> It's been a good move.

> >>

> >>

> >> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

> >> news:D14C73E5-D603-4A81-BBC8-E07FCD53522D@microsoft.com...

> >>> Hi, Clayton.

> >>>

> >>> Congratulations! ;<)

> >>>

> >>> But, for the benefit of newbies who may be lurking, please clarify that

> >>> you did not "upgrade to 64-bit". You clean installed 64-bit, right?

> >>>

> >>> To the best of my knowledge, there is not yet - or in the foreseeable

> >>> future - a way to "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit - or from 64-bit to

> >>> 32-bit. There are too many hardware and driver differences to allow an

> >>> upgrade in either direction. We can use the "Upgrade" version of Vista

> >>> x64, if we have a qualifying 32-bit version of Windows installed, but

> >>> the actual 64-bit installation must be a clean install.

> >>>

> >>> Did you change (migrate? switch? update? transition? I can't think of

> >>> a good word for the process of installing 64-bit to replace 32-bit.

> >>> Maybe "upgrade" is the best word we have for now, so long as we clarify

> >>> what we mean.) from WinXP Pro (32-bit), or WinXP x64 or Vista x86 - or

> >>> some other operating system? Did you run Vista Setup from within the

> >>> prior Windows?

> >>>

> >>> RC

> >>>

> >>> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

> >>> news:OPnY#Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>>> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major

> >>>> problems to report except for:

> > <SNIP>

>

Guest Clayton
Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

Sorry, I cleaned installed Vista 64, would never dream of upgraging over

another OS, my apologies to the word "Upgraded"

 

How did you get PowerDVD to install and work jabloomf1230?

 

I have downloaded the Vista 64bit GEAR drivers and the problem is now fixed,

thanks

 

One more problem I forgot to mention is that sometimes I would get

STacSV64.exe module has stopped working, this file is part of my sound

drvers which I have downloaded the correct drivers for Vista64 from the Dell

website

 

 

 

"jabloomf1230" <jabloomf@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message

news:us6YGQl7HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> PowerDVD needs an update to the most recent version, to run under Vista64.

> I have PowerDVD and it works fine.

>

> Clayton wrote:

>> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major problems

>> to report except for:

>>

>> 1. Could not install PowerDVD had to use WinDVD

>>

>> 2. All my DivX avi movies I acumulated over time would start to cause

>> problems an inch from the bottom of the video when it is in a small

>> window, full screen seeems to be ok.

>>

>> 3. DivX is not supported for Vista 64, now using XviD

>>

>>

Guest R. C. White
Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

Hi, John.

 

Yes, this line confuses me:

>> I wiped my hard drive, installed XP Pro, then "upgraded" to Vista Home

>> Premium x64.

 

Maybe Mark will un-confuse us. ;<}

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

 

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

news:#sDvi#l7HHA.5136@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>I agree with RC. There is no path to upgrade a 32-bit version to 64-bit

>version. If you mean you used to upgrade version to 'custom install' the

>64-bit version, I will agree.

>

> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

> news:7A2C2215-0C7E-4058-8995-2959E11C373F@microsoft.com...

>>I originally went with Vista Home Premium 32-bit as an upgrade to XP Pro.

>>About a month later, I took the plunge and went for a Windows Anytime

>>Upgrade to Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

>>

>> Then I found that I could recompile and optimize my modeling tools for

>> 64-bit. Since they are math intensive, 64-bit started looming on the

>> brain, but there are a lot of trouble comments within this newsgroup and

>> others about 64-bit. So, I researched a lot of them including the link I

>> provided and came to realize it's not the problem it was only five years

>> ago. End result, I actually performed a "Vista x64 upgrade" as described

>> in the article.

>>

>> I wiped my hard drive, installed XP Pro, then "upgraded" to Vista Home

>> Premium x64. (Couldn't go straight to Ultimate because Windows Anytime

>> Upgrade will only work with an activated version of Vista installed.)

>> This installation went fast and pain free. Then came Windows Anytime

>> Upgrade to Vista Ultimate 64-bit. It didn't work the first time and the

>> system reverted back to Home Premium. I forgot a lesson learned. Don't

>> use the automatic updates during installation. It worked the second time.

>> I had to phone activate Vista Home Premium because it was previously

>> installed less than 120 days and then phone activate again once the

>> Windows Anytime Upgrade is done. Once the operating system was fully

>> installed, then I downloaded drivers (Windows updates first, then vendors

>> for hardware that needs it. Ignore screen settings and glitches until

>> this is all done.) Reboot for the umpteeth time and Wow!

>>

>> It all works and it's rock stable.

>> Installed all my applications and then made a 100% backup so I don't have

>> to go through all of that again!

>> Total time was about six hours.

>>

>> Since then, I've found the modeling tools are very fast and efficient and

>> I haven't lost any of my 32-bit functionality. Finding an Anti-virus,

>> Firewall, etc was a bit challenging, (I didn't want it to just run in

>> 32-bit) but I had looked during the "planning" stage and found some good

>> 64-bit products. Now, I look for everything I get to be 64-bit. While

>> it's a longer search than 32-bit programs, you can find most tools in

>> 64-bit. Games and media are still mostly 32-bit, but the tide is turning.

>> And, to help, Windows x64 defaults Internet Explorer and Media Player to

>> 32 bit since things like Flash Player won't work in x64. So, now it's the

>> best of both.

>>

>>

>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

>> news:62692E99-E6B5-42F3-8FCD-456E4FE4D840@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi, Mark.

>>>

>>> Thanks for that KB URL. And you sure are right: Upgrading to Vista x64

>>> "takes a little planning" is a bit of an understatement!

>>>

>>> My comment was meant, as I said, to warn newbies that "upgrade" has two

>>> meanings in this context:

>>> 1. The right to upgrade, as spelled out in the license and the EULA.

>>> Slightly challenging.

>>>

>>> 2. The actual process of "upgrading to" the new Vista. VERY

>>> challenging.

>>>

>>> Even when the user clearly has the upgrade license, the process of using

>>> that license to actually do the upgrade can be very frustrating!

>>>

>>> Last week I did an "in-place upgrade", also known as a "repair install",

>>> of my Vista Ultimate x64. I wasn't actually upgrading to anything new,

>>> just reinstalling the system I've been running since December to clean

>>> up some corruption that had crept in. The actual update process took me

>>> FIVE HOURS! :>( I was very tempted to press the Reset button several

>>> times during the process when there were black screens with NO feedback

>>> lasting 10 minutes or more each time. And, even after it was supposedly

>>> finished, there were several steps to restore some of my favorite

>>> tweaks. Then, of course, I had to visit Windows Update to get the 20+

>>> fixes issued since RTM; this also involved several reboots.

>>>

>>> If it is that time-consuming to "upgrade" to my existing Vista x64, I

>>> wonder how long it would take to "upgrade" from WinXP x64 or another x64

>>> version of Vista?

>>>

>>> I would be very reluctant to advise an "upgrade" to Vista x64 except for

>>> experienced users who are adamant about preserving existing applications

>>> and who are prepared to follow the steps in the KB article. It is NOT

>>> like upgrading from Win98 to WinXP!

>>>

>>>> It's been a good move.

>>>

>>> Does this comment mean that you did the "upgrade", Mark? From what to

>>> what? Please tell us about your experience.

>>>

>>> RC

>>>

>>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

>>> news:89F09136-1CE5-4CBB-93CA-82D8D28143F7@microsoft.com...

>>>> Well, you might just try the word "installed." It works no matter how

>>>> he did it.

>>>> Bottom line...

>>>> ... it's takes a little planning

>>>>

>>>> For clarification on how to "upgrade" to x64: (especially for those

>>>> with an "upgrade" license.)

>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>>>>

>>>> It's been a good move.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:D14C73E5-D603-4A81-BBC8-E07FCD53522D@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Hi, Clayton.

>>>>>

>>>>> Congratulations! ;<)

>>>>>

>>>>> But, for the benefit of newbies who may be lurking, please clarify

>>>>> that you did not "upgrade to 64-bit". You clean installed 64-bit,

>>>>> right?

>>>>>

>>>>> To the best of my knowledge, there is not yet - or in the foreseeable

>>>>> future - a way to "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit - or from 64-bit to

>>>>> 32-bit. There are too many hardware and driver differences to allow

>>>>> an upgrade in either direction. We can use the "Upgrade" version of

>>>>> Vista x64, if we have a qualifying 32-bit version of Windows

>>>>> installed, but the actual 64-bit installation must be a clean install.

>>>>>

>>>>> Did you change (migrate? switch? update? transition? I can't think

>>>>> of a good word for the process of installing 64-bit to replace 32-bit.

>>>>> Maybe "upgrade" is the best word we have for now, so long as we

>>>>> clarify what we mean.) from WinXP Pro (32-bit), or WinXP x64 or Vista

>>>>> x86 - or some other operating system? Did you run Vista Setup from

>>>>> within the prior Windows?

>>>>>

>>>>> RC

>>>>>

>>>>> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OPnY#Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major

>>>>>> problems to report except for:

>>> <SNIP>

Guest R. C. White
Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

Hi, Mark.

 

Thanks for that narrative. I'm glad you had good results, even though you

had to go through more steps than most of us. ;<)

 

One line leaves me puzzled. You said:

> I wiped my hard drive, installed XP Pro, then "upgraded" to Vista Home

> Premium x64.

 

This sounds like where we came in. :^{ HOW did you "upgrade" from 32-bit

WinXP to 64-bit Vista?

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

 

"Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

news:7A2C2215-0C7E-4058-8995-2959E11C373F@microsoft.com...

>I originally went with Vista Home Premium 32-bit as an upgrade to XP Pro.

>About a month later, I took the plunge and went for a Windows Anytime

>Upgrade to Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

>

> Then I found that I could recompile and optimize my modeling tools for

> 64-bit. Since they are math intensive, 64-bit started looming on the

> brain, but there are a lot of trouble comments within this newsgroup and

> others about 64-bit. So, I researched a lot of them including the link I

> provided and came to realize it's not the problem it was only five years

> ago. End result, I actually performed a "Vista x64 upgrade" as described

> in the article.

>

> I wiped my hard drive, installed XP Pro, then "upgraded" to Vista Home

> Premium x64. (Couldn't go straight to Ultimate because Windows Anytime

> Upgrade will only work with an activated version of Vista installed.) This

> installation went fast and pain free. Then came Windows Anytime Upgrade to

> Vista Ultimate 64-bit. It didn't work the first time and the system

> reverted back to Home Premium. I forgot a lesson learned. Don't use the

> automatic updates during installation. It worked the second time. I had to

> phone activate Vista Home Premium because it was previously installed less

> than 120 days and then phone activate again once the Windows Anytime

> Upgrade is done. Once the operating system was fully installed, then I

> downloaded drivers (Windows updates first, then vendors for hardware that

> needs it. Ignore screen settings and glitches until this is all done.)

> Reboot for the umpteeth time and Wow!

>

> It all works and it's rock stable.

> Installed all my applications and then made a 100% backup so I don't have

> to go through all of that again!

> Total time was about six hours.

>

> Since then, I've found the modeling tools are very fast and efficient and

> I haven't lost any of my 32-bit functionality. Finding an Anti-virus,

> Firewall, etc was a bit challenging, (I didn't want it to just run in

> 32-bit) but I had looked during the "planning" stage and found some good

> 64-bit products. Now, I look for everything I get to be 64-bit. While it's

> a longer search than 32-bit programs, you can find most tools in 64-bit.

> Games and media are still mostly 32-bit, but the tide is turning. And, to

> help, Windows x64 defaults Internet Explorer and Media Player to 32 bit

> since things like Flash Player won't work in x64. So, now it's the best of

> both.

>

>

> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

> news:62692E99-E6B5-42F3-8FCD-456E4FE4D840@microsoft.com...

>> Hi, Mark.

>>

>> Thanks for that KB URL. And you sure are right: Upgrading to Vista x64

>> "takes a little planning" is a bit of an understatement!

>>

>> My comment was meant, as I said, to warn newbies that "upgrade" has two

>> meanings in this context:

>> 1. The right to upgrade, as spelled out in the license and the EULA.

>> Slightly challenging.

>>

>> 2. The actual process of "upgrading to" the new Vista. VERY

>> challenging.

>>

>> Even when the user clearly has the upgrade license, the process of using

>> that license to actually do the upgrade can be very frustrating!

>>

>> Last week I did an "in-place upgrade", also known as a "repair install",

>> of my Vista Ultimate x64. I wasn't actually upgrading to anything new,

>> just reinstalling the system I've been running since December to clean up

>> some corruption that had crept in. The actual update process took me

>> FIVE HOURS! :>( I was very tempted to press the Reset button several

>> times during the process when there were black screens with NO feedback

>> lasting 10 minutes or more each time. And, even after it was supposedly

>> finished, there were several steps to restore some of my favorite tweaks.

>> Then, of course, I had to visit Windows Update to get the 20+ fixes

>> issued since RTM; this also involved several reboots.

>>

>> If it is that time-consuming to "upgrade" to my existing Vista x64, I

>> wonder how long it would take to "upgrade" from WinXP x64 or another x64

>> version of Vista?

>>

>> I would be very reluctant to advise an "upgrade" to Vista x64 except for

>> experienced users who are adamant about preserving existing applications

>> and who are prepared to follow the steps in the KB article. It is NOT

>> like upgrading from Win98 to WinXP!

>>

>>> It's been a good move.

>>

>> Does this comment mean that you did the "upgrade", Mark? From what to

>> what? Please tell us about your experience.

>>

>> RC

>>

>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

>> news:89F09136-1CE5-4CBB-93CA-82D8D28143F7@microsoft.com...

>>> Well, you might just try the word "installed." It works no matter how he

>>> did it.

>>> Bottom line...

>>> ... it's takes a little planning

>>>

>>> For clarification on how to "upgrade" to x64: (especially for those with

>>> an "upgrade" license.)

>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>>>

>>> It's been a good move.

>>>

>>>

>>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

>>> news:D14C73E5-D603-4A81-BBC8-E07FCD53522D@microsoft.com...

>>>> Hi, Clayton.

>>>>

>>>> Congratulations! ;<)

>>>>

>>>> But, for the benefit of newbies who may be lurking, please clarify that

>>>> you did not "upgrade to 64-bit". You clean installed 64-bit, right?

>>>>

>>>> To the best of my knowledge, there is not yet - or in the foreseeable

>>>> future - a way to "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit - or from 64-bit to

>>>> 32-bit. There are too many hardware and driver differences to allow an

>>>> upgrade in either direction. We can use the "Upgrade" version of Vista

>>>> x64, if we have a qualifying 32-bit version of Windows installed, but

>>>> the actual 64-bit installation must be a clean install.

>>>>

>>>> Did you change (migrate? switch? update? transition? I can't think

>>>> of a good word for the process of installing 64-bit to replace 32-bit.

>>>> Maybe "upgrade" is the best word we have for now, so long as we clarify

>>>> what we mean.) from WinXP Pro (32-bit), or WinXP x64 or Vista x86 - or

>>>> some other operating system? Did you run Vista Setup from within the

>>>> prior Windows?

>>>>

>>>> RC

>>>>

>>>> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

>>>> news:OPnY#Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major

>>>>> problems to report except for:

>> <SNIP>

Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

As I stated before... I installed it.

It was sold as an upgrade.

 

Call whatever you want.

 

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

news:%23sDvi%23l7HHA.5136@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>I agree with RC. There is no path to upgrade a 32-bit version to 64-bit

>version. If you mean you used to upgrade version to 'custom install' the

>64-bit version, I will agree.

>

> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

> news:7A2C2215-0C7E-4058-8995-2959E11C373F@microsoft.com...

>>I originally went with Vista Home Premium 32-bit as an upgrade to XP Pro.

>>About a month later, I took the plunge and went for a Windows Anytime

>>Upgrade to Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

>>

>> Then I found that I could recompile and optimize my modeling tools for

>> 64-bit. Since they are math intensive, 64-bit started looming on the

>> brain, but there are a lot of trouble comments within this newsgroup and

>> others about 64-bit. So, I researched a lot of them including the link I

>> provided and came to realize it's not the problem it was only five years

>> ago. End result, I actually performed a "Vista x64 upgrade" as described

>> in the article.

>>

>> I wiped my hard drive, installed XP Pro, then "upgraded" to Vista Home

>> Premium x64. (Couldn't go straight to Ultimate because Windows Anytime

>> Upgrade will only work with an activated version of Vista installed.)

>> This installation went fast and pain free. Then came Windows Anytime

>> Upgrade to Vista Ultimate 64-bit. It didn't work the first time and the

>> system reverted back to Home Premium. I forgot a lesson learned. Don't

>> use the automatic updates during installation. It worked the second time.

>> I had to phone activate Vista Home Premium because it was previously

>> installed less than 120 days and then phone activate again once the

>> Windows Anytime Upgrade is done. Once the operating system was fully

>> installed, then I downloaded drivers (Windows updates first, then vendors

>> for hardware that needs it. Ignore screen settings and glitches until

>> this is all done.) Reboot for the umpteeth time and Wow!

>>

>> It all works and it's rock stable.

>> Installed all my applications and then made a 100% backup so I don't have

>> to go through all of that again!

>> Total time was about six hours.

>>

>> Since then, I've found the modeling tools are very fast and efficient and

>> I haven't lost any of my 32-bit functionality. Finding an Anti-virus,

>> Firewall, etc was a bit challenging, (I didn't want it to just run in

>> 32-bit) but I had looked during the "planning" stage and found some good

>> 64-bit products. Now, I look for everything I get to be 64-bit. While

>> it's a longer search than 32-bit programs, you can find most tools in

>> 64-bit. Games and media are still mostly 32-bit, but the tide is turning.

>> And, to help, Windows x64 defaults Internet Explorer and Media Player to

>> 32 bit since things like Flash Player won't work in x64. So, now it's the

>> best of both.

>>

>>

>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

>> news:62692E99-E6B5-42F3-8FCD-456E4FE4D840@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi, Mark.

>>>

>>> Thanks for that KB URL. And you sure are right: Upgrading to Vista x64

>>> "takes a little planning" is a bit of an understatement!

>>>

>>> My comment was meant, as I said, to warn newbies that "upgrade" has two

>>> meanings in this context:

>>> 1. The right to upgrade, as spelled out in the license and the EULA.

>>> Slightly challenging.

>>>

>>> 2. The actual process of "upgrading to" the new Vista. VERY

>>> challenging.

>>>

>>> Even when the user clearly has the upgrade license, the process of using

>>> that license to actually do the upgrade can be very frustrating!

>>>

>>> Last week I did an "in-place upgrade", also known as a "repair install",

>>> of my Vista Ultimate x64. I wasn't actually upgrading to anything new,

>>> just reinstalling the system I've been running since December to clean

>>> up some corruption that had crept in. The actual update process took me

>>> FIVE HOURS! :>( I was very tempted to press the Reset button several

>>> times during the process when there were black screens with NO feedback

>>> lasting 10 minutes or more each time. And, even after it was supposedly

>>> finished, there were several steps to restore some of my favorite

>>> tweaks. Then, of course, I had to visit Windows Update to get the 20+

>>> fixes issued since RTM; this also involved several reboots.

>>>

>>> If it is that time-consuming to "upgrade" to my existing Vista x64, I

>>> wonder how long it would take to "upgrade" from WinXP x64 or another x64

>>> version of Vista?

>>>

>>> I would be very reluctant to advise an "upgrade" to Vista x64 except for

>>> experienced users who are adamant about preserving existing applications

>>> and who are prepared to follow the steps in the KB article. It is NOT

>>> like upgrading from Win98 to WinXP!

>>>

>>>> It's been a good move.

>>>

>>> Does this comment mean that you did the "upgrade", Mark? From what to

>>> what? Please tell us about your experience.

>>>

>>> RC

>>> --

>>> R. C. White, CPA

>>> San Marcos, TX

>>> rc@grandecom.net

>>> Microsoft Windows MVP

>>> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

>>>

>>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

>>> news:89F09136-1CE5-4CBB-93CA-82D8D28143F7@microsoft.com...

>>>> Well, you might just try the word "installed." It works no matter how

>>>> he did it.

>>>> Bottom line...

>>>> ... it's takes a little planning

>>>>

>>>> For clarification on how to "upgrade" to x64: (especially for those

>>>> with an "upgrade" license.)

>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>>>>

>>>> It's been a good move.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:D14C73E5-D603-4A81-BBC8-E07FCD53522D@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Hi, Clayton.

>>>>>

>>>>> Congratulations! ;<)

>>>>>

>>>>> But, for the benefit of newbies who may be lurking, please clarify

>>>>> that you did not "upgrade to 64-bit". You clean installed 64-bit,

>>>>> right?

>>>>>

>>>>> To the best of my knowledge, there is not yet - or in the foreseeable

>>>>> future - a way to "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit - or from 64-bit to

>>>>> 32-bit. There are too many hardware and driver differences to allow

>>>>> an upgrade in either direction. We can use the "Upgrade" version of

>>>>> Vista x64, if we have a qualifying 32-bit version of Windows

>>>>> installed, but the actual 64-bit installation must be a clean install.

>>>>>

>>>>> Did you change (migrate? switch? update? transition? I can't think

>>>>> of a good word for the process of installing 64-bit to replace 32-bit.

>>>>> Maybe "upgrade" is the best word we have for now, so long as we

>>>>> clarify what we mean.) from WinXP Pro (32-bit), or WinXP x64 or Vista

>>>>> x86 - or some other operating system? Did you run Vista Setup from

>>>>> within the prior Windows?

>>>>>

>>>>> RC

>>>>>

>>>>> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OPnY#Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major

>>>>>> problems to report except for:

>>> <SNIP>

>>

>

Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

Per the link I posted...

"Upgrading a 32-bit operating system to a 64-bit operating system If you

purchase a 64-bit upgrade version of Windows Vista with the intention of

installing on a computer that is running a 32-bit operating system, you must

install Windows Vista by starting the computer from the 64-bit Vista

installation DVD."

 

"Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on computer that is running a

32-bit version of Windows Vista

If you have purchased an _Upgrade_ license together with a Windows Vista

DVD, you must use one of the following methods. "

 

And per my write-up...

"I actually performed a "Vista x64 upgrade" as described in the article."

(Note the quotes... I was referring to the fact I bought an "upgrade" disc

and followed the KB articles "upgrade" instructions.)

 

If you're still confused, please ask Microsoft what they meant when they

sold it as an upgrade. It worked for me.

 

 

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

news:8C799BEB-A482-4F8C-AA6F-C437946C6BBE@microsoft.com...

> Hi, Mark.

>

> Thanks for that narrative. I'm glad you had good results, even though you

> had to go through more steps than most of us. ;<)

>

> One line leaves me puzzled. You said:

>> I wiped my hard drive, installed XP Pro, then "upgraded" to Vista Home

>> Premium x64.

>

> This sounds like where we came in. :^{ HOW did you "upgrade" from 32-bit

> WinXP to 64-bit Vista?

>

> RC

> --

> R. C. White, CPA

> San Marcos, TX

> rc@grandecom.net

> Microsoft Windows MVP

> (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

>

> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

> news:7A2C2215-0C7E-4058-8995-2959E11C373F@microsoft.com...

>>I originally went with Vista Home Premium 32-bit as an upgrade to XP Pro.

>>About a month later, I took the plunge and went for a Windows Anytime

>>Upgrade to Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

>>

>> Then I found that I could recompile and optimize my modeling tools for

>> 64-bit. Since they are math intensive, 64-bit started looming on the

>> brain, but there are a lot of trouble comments within this newsgroup and

>> others about 64-bit. So, I researched a lot of them including the link I

>> provided and came to realize it's not the problem it was only five years

>> ago. End result, I actually performed a "Vista x64 upgrade" as described

>> in the article.

>>

>> I wiped my hard drive, installed XP Pro, then "upgraded" to Vista Home

>> Premium x64. (Couldn't go straight to Ultimate because Windows Anytime

>> Upgrade will only work with an activated version of Vista installed.)

>> This installation went fast and pain free. Then came Windows Anytime

>> Upgrade to Vista Ultimate 64-bit. It didn't work the first time and the

>> system reverted back to Home Premium. I forgot a lesson learned. Don't

>> use the automatic updates during installation. It worked the second time.

>> I had to phone activate Vista Home Premium because it was previously

>> installed less than 120 days and then phone activate again once the

>> Windows Anytime Upgrade is done. Once the operating system was fully

>> installed, then I downloaded drivers (Windows updates first, then vendors

>> for hardware that needs it. Ignore screen settings and glitches until

>> this is all done.) Reboot for the umpteeth time and Wow!

>>

>> It all works and it's rock stable.

>> Installed all my applications and then made a 100% backup so I don't have

>> to go through all of that again!

>> Total time was about six hours.

>>

>> Since then, I've found the modeling tools are very fast and efficient and

>> I haven't lost any of my 32-bit functionality. Finding an Anti-virus,

>> Firewall, etc was a bit challenging, (I didn't want it to just run in

>> 32-bit) but I had looked during the "planning" stage and found some good

>> 64-bit products. Now, I look for everything I get to be 64-bit. While

>> it's a longer search than 32-bit programs, you can find most tools in

>> 64-bit. Games and media are still mostly 32-bit, but the tide is turning.

>> And, to help, Windows x64 defaults Internet Explorer and Media Player to

>> 32 bit since things like Flash Player won't work in x64. So, now it's the

>> best of both.

>>

>>

>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

>> news:62692E99-E6B5-42F3-8FCD-456E4FE4D840@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi, Mark.

>>>

>>> Thanks for that KB URL. And you sure are right: Upgrading to Vista x64

>>> "takes a little planning" is a bit of an understatement!

>>>

>>> My comment was meant, as I said, to warn newbies that "upgrade" has two

>>> meanings in this context:

>>> 1. The right to upgrade, as spelled out in the license and the EULA.

>>> Slightly challenging.

>>>

>>> 2. The actual process of "upgrading to" the new Vista. VERY

>>> challenging.

>>>

>>> Even when the user clearly has the upgrade license, the process of using

>>> that license to actually do the upgrade can be very frustrating!

>>>

>>> Last week I did an "in-place upgrade", also known as a "repair install",

>>> of my Vista Ultimate x64. I wasn't actually upgrading to anything new,

>>> just reinstalling the system I've been running since December to clean

>>> up some corruption that had crept in. The actual update process took me

>>> FIVE HOURS! :>( I was very tempted to press the Reset button several

>>> times during the process when there were black screens with NO feedback

>>> lasting 10 minutes or more each time. And, even after it was supposedly

>>> finished, there were several steps to restore some of my favorite

>>> tweaks. Then, of course, I had to visit Windows Update to get the 20+

>>> fixes issued since RTM; this also involved several reboots.

>>>

>>> If it is that time-consuming to "upgrade" to my existing Vista x64, I

>>> wonder how long it would take to "upgrade" from WinXP x64 or another x64

>>> version of Vista?

>>>

>>> I would be very reluctant to advise an "upgrade" to Vista x64 except for

>>> experienced users who are adamant about preserving existing applications

>>> and who are prepared to follow the steps in the KB article. It is NOT

>>> like upgrading from Win98 to WinXP!

>>>

>>>> It's been a good move.

>>>

>>> Does this comment mean that you did the "upgrade", Mark? From what to

>>> what? Please tell us about your experience.

>>>

>>> RC

>>>

>>> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

>>> news:89F09136-1CE5-4CBB-93CA-82D8D28143F7@microsoft.com...

>>>> Well, you might just try the word "installed." It works no matter how

>>>> he did it.

>>>> Bottom line...

>>>> ... it's takes a little planning

>>>>

>>>> For clarification on how to "upgrade" to x64: (especially for those

>>>> with an "upgrade" license.)

>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>>>>

>>>> It's been a good move.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:D14C73E5-D603-4A81-BBC8-E07FCD53522D@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Hi, Clayton.

>>>>>

>>>>> Congratulations! ;<)

>>>>>

>>>>> But, for the benefit of newbies who may be lurking, please clarify

>>>>> that you did not "upgrade to 64-bit". You clean installed 64-bit,

>>>>> right?

>>>>>

>>>>> To the best of my knowledge, there is not yet - or in the foreseeable

>>>>> future - a way to "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit - or from 64-bit to

>>>>> 32-bit. There are too many hardware and driver differences to allow

>>>>> an upgrade in either direction. We can use the "Upgrade" version of

>>>>> Vista x64, if we have a qualifying 32-bit version of Windows

>>>>> installed, but the actual 64-bit installation must be a clean install.

>>>>>

>>>>> Did you change (migrate? switch? update? transition? I can't think

>>>>> of a good word for the process of installing 64-bit to replace 32-bit.

>>>>> Maybe "upgrade" is the best word we have for now, so long as we

>>>>> clarify what we mean.) from WinXP Pro (32-bit), or WinXP x64 or Vista

>>>>> x86 - or some other operating system? Did you run Vista Setup from

>>>>> within the prior Windows?

>>>>>

>>>>> RC

>>>>>

>>>>> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OPnY#Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major

>>>>>> problems to report except for:

>>> <SNIP>

>

Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

Thanks!

 

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:480BC367-B233-4C4F-BF21-6338411AC9CC@microsoft.com...

> Mark:

> You can use WMP 64-bit as your default player if you install the x64

> version

> of ffdshow mentioned in my post.

> Those x64 decoders work also with Movie Maker and - I think - DVD Maker.

> Carlos

>

> "Mark" wrote:

>

>> I originally went with Vista Home Premium 32-bit as an upgrade to XP Pro.

>> About a month later, I took the plunge and went for a Windows Anytime

>> Upgrade to Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

>>

>> Then I found that I could recompile and optimize my modeling tools for

>> 64-bit. Since they are math intensive, 64-bit started looming on the

>> brain,

>> but there are a lot of trouble comments within this newsgroup and others

>> about 64-bit. So, I researched a lot of them including the link I

>> provided

>> and came to realize it's not the problem it was only five years ago. End

>> result, I actually performed a "Vista x64 upgrade" as described in the

>> article.

>>

>> I wiped my hard drive, installed XP Pro, then "upgraded" to Vista Home

>> Premium x64. (Couldn't go straight to Ultimate because Windows Anytime

>> Upgrade will only work with an activated version of Vista installed.)

>> This

>> installation went fast and pain free. Then came Windows Anytime Upgrade

>> to

>> Vista Ultimate 64-bit. It didn't work the first time and the system

>> reverted

>> back to Home Premium. I forgot a lesson learned. Don't use the automatic

>> updates during installation. It worked the second time. I had to phone

>> activate Vista Home Premium because it was previously installed less than

>> 120 days and then phone activate again once the Windows Anytime Upgrade

>> is

>> done. Once the operating system was fully installed, then I downloaded

>> drivers (Windows updates first, then vendors for hardware that needs it.

>> Ignore screen settings and glitches until this is all done.) Reboot for

>> the

>> umpteeth time and Wow!

>>

>> It all works and it's rock stable.

>> Installed all my applications and then made a 100% backup so I don't have

>> to

>> go through all of that again!

>> Total time was about six hours.

>>

>> Since then, I've found the modeling tools are very fast and efficient and

>> I

>> haven't lost any of my 32-bit functionality. Finding an Anti-virus,

>> Firewall, etc was a bit challenging, (I didn't want it to just run in

>> 32-bit) but I had looked during the "planning" stage and found some good

>> 64-bit products. Now, I look for everything I get to be 64-bit. While

>> it's a

>> longer search than 32-bit programs, you can find most tools in 64-bit.

>> Games

>> and media are still mostly 32-bit, but the tide is turning. And, to help,

>> Windows x64 defaults Internet Explorer and Media Player to 32 bit since

>> things like Flash Player won't work in x64. So, now it's the best of

>> both.

>>

>>

>> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

>> news:62692E99-E6B5-42F3-8FCD-456E4FE4D840@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi, Mark.

>> >

>> > Thanks for that KB URL. And you sure are right: Upgrading to Vista

>> > x64

>> > "takes a little planning" is a bit of an understatement!

>> >

>> > My comment was meant, as I said, to warn newbies that "upgrade" has two

>> > meanings in this context:

>> > 1. The right to upgrade, as spelled out in the license and the EULA.

>> > Slightly challenging.

>> >

>> > 2. The actual process of "upgrading to" the new Vista. VERY

>> > challenging.

>> >

>> > Even when the user clearly has the upgrade license, the process of

>> > using

>> > that license to actually do the upgrade can be very frustrating!

>> >

>> > Last week I did an "in-place upgrade", also known as a "repair

>> > install",

>> > of my Vista Ultimate x64. I wasn't actually upgrading to anything new,

>> > just reinstalling the system I've been running since December to clean

>> > up

>> > some corruption that had crept in. The actual update process took me

>> > FIVE

>> > HOURS! :>( I was very tempted to press the Reset button several times

>> > during the process when there were black screens with NO feedback

>> > lasting

>> > 10 minutes or more each time. And, even after it was supposedly

>> > finished,

>> > there were several steps to restore some of my favorite tweaks. Then,

>> > of

>> > course, I had to visit Windows Update to get the 20+ fixes issued since

>> > RTM; this also involved several reboots.

>> >

>> > If it is that time-consuming to "upgrade" to my existing Vista x64, I

>> > wonder how long it would take to "upgrade" from WinXP x64 or another

>> > x64

>> > version of Vista?

>> >

>> > I would be very reluctant to advise an "upgrade" to Vista x64 except

>> > for

>> > experienced users who are adamant about preserving existing

>> > applications

>> > and who are prepared to follow the steps in the KB article. It is NOT

>> > like upgrading from Win98 to WinXP!

>> >

>> >> It's been a good move.

>> >

>> > Does this comment mean that you did the "upgrade", Mark? From what to

>> > what? Please tell us about your experience.

>> >

>> > RC

>> > --

>> > R. C. White, CPA

>> > San Marcos, TX

>> > rc@grandecom.net

>> > Microsoft Windows MVP

>> > (Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

>> >

>> > "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

>> > news:89F09136-1CE5-4CBB-93CA-82D8D28143F7@microsoft.com...

>> >> Well, you might just try the word "installed." It works no matter how

>> >> he

>> >> did it.

>> >> Bottom line...

>> >> ... it's takes a little planning

>> >>

>> >> For clarification on how to "upgrade" to x64: (especially for those

>> >> with

>> >> an "upgrade" license.)

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>> >>

>> >> It's been a good move.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

>> >> news:D14C73E5-D603-4A81-BBC8-E07FCD53522D@microsoft.com...

>> >>> Hi, Clayton.

>> >>>

>> >>> Congratulations! ;<)

>> >>>

>> >>> But, for the benefit of newbies who may be lurking, please clarify

>> >>> that

>> >>> you did not "upgrade to 64-bit". You clean installed 64-bit, right?

>> >>>

>> >>> To the best of my knowledge, there is not yet - or in the foreseeable

>> >>> future - a way to "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit - or from 64-bit to

>> >>> 32-bit. There are too many hardware and driver differences to allow

>> >>> an

>> >>> upgrade in either direction. We can use the "Upgrade" version of

>> >>> Vista

>> >>> x64, if we have a qualifying 32-bit version of Windows installed, but

>> >>> the actual 64-bit installation must be a clean install.

>> >>>

>> >>> Did you change (migrate? switch? update? transition? I can't think

>> >>> of

>> >>> a good word for the process of installing 64-bit to replace 32-bit.

>> >>> Maybe "upgrade" is the best word we have for now, so long as we

>> >>> clarify

>> >>> what we mean.) from WinXP Pro (32-bit), or WinXP x64 or Vista x86 -

>> >>> or

>> >>> some other operating system? Did you run Vista Setup from within the

>> >>> prior Windows?

>> >>>

>> >>> RC

>> >>>

>> >>> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

>> >>> news:OPnY#Xe7HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >>>> Everything has gone well with the Vista 64-Bit Upgrade no major

>> >>>> problems to report except for:

>> > <SNIP>

>>

Guest R. C. White
Posted

Re: Upgraded to Vista 64-Bit

 

Hi, Mark.

 

Thanks - and I'm sorry for beating a dead horse. I recognize that it's

Microsoft's dead horse, not yours. ;^}

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)

 

"Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

news:E7B06D33-E59D-4EB6-9126-F77136C76970@microsoft.com...

> Per the link I posted...

> "Upgrading a 32-bit operating system to a 64-bit operating system If you

> purchase a 64-bit upgrade version of Windows Vista with the intention of

> installing on a computer that is running a 32-bit operating system, you

> must install Windows Vista by starting the computer from the 64-bit Vista

> installation DVD."

>

> "Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on computer that is running

> a 32-bit version of Windows Vista

> If you have purchased an _Upgrade_ license together with a Windows Vista

> DVD, you must use one of the following methods. "

>

> And per my write-up...

> "I actually performed a "Vista x64 upgrade" as described in the article."

> (Note the quotes... I was referring to the fact I bought an "upgrade"

> disc and followed the KB articles "upgrade" instructions.)

>

> If you're still confused, please ask Microsoft what they meant when they

> sold it as an upgrade. It worked for me.

>

>

> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

> news:8C799BEB-A482-4F8C-AA6F-C437946C6BBE@microsoft.com...

>> Hi, Mark.

>>

>> Thanks for that narrative. I'm glad you had good results, even though

>> you had to go through more steps than most of us. ;<)

>>

>> One line leaves me puzzled. You said:

>>> I wiped my hard drive, installed XP Pro, then "upgraded" to Vista Home

>>> Premium x64.

>>

>> This sounds like where we came in. :^{ HOW did you "upgrade" from

>> 32-bit WinXP to 64-bit Vista?

>>

>> RC


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