Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

September 14, 2007

My new HP computer came with Vista Home Premium. I don't like Vista

and I want to install Win2k from my old machine instead. After 6 years

I don't know where my win2k installation CD is, but the CD is copied

to my old hard disk and I do have my serial number. I used the serial

# when I had to reinstall win2k, and when I registered online at

microsoft.com to get "automatic updates".

I copied i386 from my old machine onto a USB flash drive and tried to

install win2k from within Vista. I thought I would dual-boot for a

while, but the boot loaders are conflicting and Vista is not allowing

win2k to install. So I thought I would boot from floppy, fdisk the new

machine and kill off Vista. But my new machine has no floppy drive, so

.. . . my question:

How do I install win2k from my old machine onto the new one?

September 14, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

I forgot to add . . .

My old machine has several partitions due to FAT32's 32GB limitation,

etc. I want to create a single NTFS partition. For the

transfer/installation, I tried to create a bootable USB flash drive (a

very interesting idea), but I couldn't do it. I also don't know how to

burn a bootable CD, so I'm kind of stuck for a boot OS. I do know that

after trying out Vista I appreciate win2k's no-frills stability, and

with a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram it should fly.

Thanks in advance

September 14, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

Before you try this, have you checked that your hardware supports win2k ie

are drivers available for win2k on this PC.

You may also find this invalidates any warranty/support.

You are aware that win2k support will end in the not to distant future, ie

critial updates and then you will have to 'learn' vista.

You can alter the Vista interface to the more classic version.

I doubt there will be much real world performance increase.

32gb Fat limitation; so why didnt you convert to NTFS, or why did you

install this way?

IMO As someone who still has win2k pc's, a retrograde step you will probably

live to regret

<remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

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>I forgot to add . . .

>

> My old machine has several partitions due to FAT32's 32GB limitation,

> etc. I want to create a single NTFS partition. For the

> transfer/installation, I tried to create a bootable USB flash drive (a

> very interesting idea), but I couldn't do it. I also don't know how to

> burn a bootable CD, so I'm kind of stuck for a boot OS. I do know that

> after trying out Vista I appreciate win2k's no-frills stability, and

> with a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram it should fly.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

September 14, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:26:35 GMT, remove_@no.spam wrote:

>My new HP computer came with Vista Home Premium. I don't like Vista

>and I want to install Win2k from my old machine instead. After 6 years

>I don't know where my win2k installation CD is, but the CD is copied

>to my old hard disk and I do have my serial number. I used the serial

># when I had to reinstall win2k, and when I registered online at

>microsoft.com to get "automatic updates".

>

>I copied i386 from my old machine onto a USB flash drive and tried to

>install win2k from within Vista. I thought I would dual-boot for a

>while, but the boot loaders are conflicting and Vista is not allowing

>win2k to install. So I thought I would boot from floppy, fdisk the new

>machine and kill off Vista. But my new machine has no floppy drive, so

>. . . my question:

>

>How do I install win2k from my old machine onto the new one?

Easy. Buy a new floppy drive ($10 or less).

September 16, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

The good news, I figured out how to boot from a USB flash drive. :)

The bad news, Windows 2000 installation fails on the new HP computer.

The installer copies files, reboots, but blue screens when attempting

to access hard disk. Seems like I need to give win2k a new driver for

the disk controller.

The hardware: HP Pavilion a1730n desktop, motherboard Asus A8M2N-LA

I have to install win2k, I can't get any work done in Vista. Any ideas

where to get disk driver?

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:04:05 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>Before you try this, have you checked that your hardware supports win2k ie

>are drivers available for win2k on this PC.

>You may also find this invalidates any warranty/support.

>

>You are aware that win2k support will end in the not to distant future, ie

>critial updates and then you will have to 'learn' vista.

>You can alter the Vista interface to the more classic version.

>I doubt there will be much real world performance increase.

>32gb Fat limitation; so why didnt you convert to NTFS, or why did you

>install this way?

>IMO As someone who still has win2k pc's, a retrograde step you will probably

>live to regret

>

><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

>news:ngsje3do4rejs263t4om6aaaj4sk2u4ske@4ax.com...

>>I forgot to add . . .

>>

>> My old machine has several partitions due to FAT32's 32GB limitation,

>> etc. I want to create a single NTFS partition. For the

>> transfer/installation, I tried to create a bootable USB flash drive (a

>> very interesting idea), but I couldn't do it. I also don't know how to

>> burn a bootable CD, so I'm kind of stuck for a boot OS. I do know that

>> after trying out Vista I appreciate win2k's no-frills stability, and

>> with a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram it should fly.

>>

>> Thanks in advance

>>

>

September 16, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

Found the driver at hp.com, "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller

Update", the files:

nvata.cat

nvstor32.inf

nvstor32.sys

idecoi.dll

what do I do now?

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:01:30 GMT, remove_@no.spam wrote:

>The good news, I figured out how to boot from a USB flash drive. :)

>

>The bad news, Windows 2000 installation fails on the new HP computer.

>The installer copies files, reboots, but blue screens when attempting

>to access hard disk. Seems like I need to give win2k a new driver for

>the disk controller.

>

>The hardware: HP Pavilion a1730n desktop, motherboard Asus A8M2N-LA

>

>I have to install win2k, I can't get any work done in Vista. Any ideas

>where to get disk driver?

>

September 17, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

If its a sata controler you would either

1) need to create the floppy disk and use F6 option early in the win2k

installation process to install third party drivers

or

2) create a slipstreamed installation cd of win2k containing the sata

drivers

<remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

news:1dpqe39f3gej3qkdda76acl9iqlkesag2s@4ax.com...

> Found the driver at hp.com, "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller

> Update", the files:

>

> nvata.cat

> nvstor32.inf

> nvstor32.sys

> idecoi.dll

>

> what do I do now?

>

> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:01:30 GMT, remove_@no.spam wrote:

>

>>The good news, I figured out how to boot from a USB flash drive. :)

>>

>>The bad news, Windows 2000 installation fails on the new HP computer.

>>The installer copies files, reboots, but blue screens when attempting

>>to access hard disk. Seems like I need to give win2k a new driver for

>>the disk controller.

>>

>>The hardware: HP Pavilion a1730n desktop, motherboard Asus A8M2N-LA

>>

>>I have to install win2k, I can't get any work done in Vista. Any ideas

>>where to get disk driver?

>>

>

September 18, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

Thank you.

This computer (like most) has no floppy drive, so I couldn't do F6.

But I did slipstream SP4 into the original win2k. I still got a blue

screen at "Starting Windows 2000" after the first boot, "stop:

inaccessible boot device", yuck. The first setup session is in the

Vista command console, so it has basic drivers, but win2k dies when it

boots on its own.

I slipstreamed SP4 using its own command line, but I have no idea how

to slipstream a single SATA driver into the install. Anybody?

Tried Vista for another day, it's scary and it has to go. I'm appalled

by the lack of support from both HP and Microsoft, a brand new machine

dead in the water. Having nothing to lose, I pulled out Red Hat

5-something, the CD is bootable, but I couldn't install that either, I

got stuck early on having no idea what dev1 & dev2 is. Maybe it's time

I should learn.

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:27:19 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>If its a sata controler you would either

>1) need to create the floppy disk and use F6 option early in the win2k

>installation process to install third party drivers

>or

>2) create a slipstreamed installation cd of win2k containing the sata

>drivers

>

><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

>news:1dpqe39f3gej3qkdda76acl9iqlkesag2s@4ax.com...

>> Found the driver at hp.com, "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller

>> Update", the files:

>>

>> nvata.cat

>> nvstor32.inf

>> nvstor32.sys

>> idecoi.dll

>>

>> what do I do now?

>>

>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:01:30 GMT, remove_@no.spam wrote:

>>

>>>The good news, I figured out how to boot from a USB flash drive. :)

>>>

>>>The bad news, Windows 2000 installation fails on the new HP computer.

>>>The installer copies files, reboots, but blue screens when attempting

>>>to access hard disk. Seems like I need to give win2k a new driver for

>>>the disk controller.

>>>

>>>The hardware: HP Pavilion a1730n desktop, motherboard Asus A8M2N-LA

>>>

>>>I have to install win2k, I can't get any work done in Vista. Any ideas

>>>where to get disk driver?

>>>

>>

>

September 18, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

It a standard Asus A8M2N-LA mobo, NVIDIA ForceWare video has fresh

drivers online for both XP and 2000. For the mobo, controller, USB,

etc, NVIDIA nForce 430-410-405-400 also has fresh drivers for Windows

XP and 2000 . . no reason this machine cannot run win2k, it would kick

ass too compared to Vista bloatware. No way I'm gonna buy a new

machine that runs SLOWER than my old one.

.....FAT32 partition size limits, I put up with it because I was dual

booting win98 to test my software.

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:04:05 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>Before you try this, have you checked that your hardware supports win2k ie

>are drivers available for win2k on this PC.

>You may also find this invalidates any warranty/support.

>

>You are aware that win2k support will end in the not to distant future, ie

>critial updates and then you will have to 'learn' vista.

>You can alter the Vista interface to the more classic version.

>I doubt there will be much real world performance increase.

>32gb Fat limitation; so why didnt you convert to NTFS, or why did you

>install this way?

>IMO As someone who still has win2k pc's, a retrograde step you will probably

>live to regret

>

><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

>news:ngsje3do4rejs263t4om6aaaj4sk2u4ske@4ax.com...

>>I forgot to add . . .

>>

>> My old machine has several partitions due to FAT32's 32GB limitation,

>> etc. I want to create a single NTFS partition. For the

>> transfer/installation, I tried to create a bootable USB flash drive (a

>> very interesting idea), but I couldn't do it. I also don't know how to

>> burn a bootable CD, so I'm kind of stuck for a boot OS. I do know that

>> after trying out Vista I appreciate win2k's no-frills stability, and

>> with a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram it should fly.

>>

>> Thanks in advance

>>

>

September 19, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

A usb floppy is cheap!

Slipstreaming sp4 will have no affect on the sata controler

If you google for slipstreaming raid drivers you should find some info

Untill you are able to repair your win2k installation & install the raid

drivers during this repair the sata conected hd will be invisible to the win

instalation

<remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

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> Thank you.

>

> This computer (like most) has no floppy drive, so I couldn't do F6.

>

> But I did slipstream SP4 into the original win2k. I still got a blue

> screen at "Starting Windows 2000" after the first boot, "stop:

> inaccessible boot device", yuck. The first setup session is in the

> Vista command console, so it has basic drivers, but win2k dies when it

> boots on its own.

>

> I slipstreamed SP4 using its own command line, but I have no idea how

> to slipstream a single SATA driver into the install. Anybody?

>

> Tried Vista for another day, it's scary and it has to go. I'm appalled

> by the lack of support from both HP and Microsoft, a brand new machine

> dead in the water. Having nothing to lose, I pulled out Red Hat

> 5-something, the CD is bootable, but I couldn't install that either, I

> got stuck early on having no idea what dev1 & dev2 is. Maybe it's time

> I should learn.

>

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:27:19 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>

>>If its a sata controler you would either

>>1) need to create the floppy disk and use F6 option early in the win2k

>>installation process to install third party drivers

>>or

>>2) create a slipstreamed installation cd of win2k containing the sata

>>drivers

>>

>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

>>news:1dpqe39f3gej3qkdda76acl9iqlkesag2s@4ax.com...

>>> Found the driver at hp.com, "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller

>>> Update", the files:

>>>

>>> nvata.cat

>>> nvstor32.inf

>>> nvstor32.sys

>>> idecoi.dll

>>>

>>> what do I do now?

>>>

>>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:01:30 GMT, remove_@no.spam wrote:

>>>

>>>>The good news, I figured out how to boot from a USB flash drive. :)

>>>>

>>>>The bad news, Windows 2000 installation fails on the new HP computer.

>>>>The installer copies files, reboots, but blue screens when attempting

>>>>to access hard disk. Seems like I need to give win2k a new driver for

>>>>the disk controller.

>>>>

>>>>The hardware: HP Pavilion a1730n desktop, motherboard Asus A8M2N-LA

>>>>

>>>>I have to install win2k, I can't get any work done in Vista. Any ideas

>>>>where to get disk driver?

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

September 19, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

Seems that the correct solution would be RMAing the box back to HP, no

reason to accept a DOA box.

remove_@no.spam wrote:

> Thank you.

>

> This computer (like most) has no floppy drive, so I couldn't do F6.

>

> But I did slipstream SP4 into the original win2k. I still got a blue

> screen at "Starting Windows 2000" after the first boot, "stop:

> inaccessible boot device", yuck. The first setup session is in the

> Vista command console, so it has basic drivers, but win2k dies when it

> boots on its own.

>

> I slipstreamed SP4 using its own command line, but I have no idea how

> to slipstream a single SATA driver into the install. Anybody?

>

> Tried Vista for another day, it's scary and it has to go. I'm appalled

> by the lack of support from both HP and Microsoft, a brand new machine

> dead in the water. Having nothing to lose, I pulled out Red Hat

> 5-something, the CD is bootable, but I couldn't install that either, I

> got stuck early on having no idea what dev1 & dev2 is. Maybe it's time

> I should learn.

>

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:27:19 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>

>>If its a sata controler you would either

>>1) need to create the floppy disk and use F6 option early in the win2k

>>installation process to install third party drivers

>>or

>>2) create a slipstreamed installation cd of win2k containing the sata

>>drivers

>>

>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

>>news:1dpqe39f3gej3qkdda76acl9iqlkesag2s@4ax.com...

>>

>>>Found the driver at hp.com, "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller

>>>Update", the files:

>>>

>>>nvata.cat

>>>nvstor32.inf

>>>nvstor32.sys

>>>idecoi.dll

>>>

>>>what do I do now?

>>>

>>>On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:01:30 GMT, remove_@no.spam wrote:

>>>

>>>>The good news, I figured out how to boot from a USB flash drive. :)

>>>>

>>>>The bad news, Windows 2000 installation fails on the new HP computer.

>>>>The installer copies files, reboots, but blue screens when attempting

>>>>to access hard disk. Seems like I need to give win2k a new driver for

>>>>the disk controller.

>>>>

>>>>The hardware: HP Pavilion a1730n desktop, motherboard Asus A8M2N-LA

>>>>

>>>>I have to install win2k, I can't get any work done in Vista. Any ideas

>>>>where to get disk driver?

>>>>

>>>

>

September 19, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

I think you will find from op that PC was supplied with Vista and the op

wished to dump vista & install win2k

So not exactly a DOA, allthough they will likely finish up with an

unsupported sys

"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:OVQnjPu%23HHA.4732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Seems that the correct solution would be RMAing the box back to HP, no

> reason to accept a DOA box.

>

> remove_@no.spam wrote:

>

>> Thank you. This computer (like most) has no floppy drive, so I couldn't

>> do F6.

>>

>> But I did slipstream SP4 into the original win2k. I still got a blue

>> screen at "Starting Windows 2000" after the first boot, "stop:

>> inaccessible boot device", yuck. The first setup session is in the

>> Vista command console, so it has basic drivers, but win2k dies when it

>> boots on its own.

>>

>> I slipstreamed SP4 using its own command line, but I have no idea how

>> to slipstream a single SATA driver into the install. Anybody?

>>

>> Tried Vista for another day, it's scary and it has to go. I'm appalled

>> by the lack of support from both HP and Microsoft, a brand new machine

>> dead in the water. Having nothing to lose, I pulled out Red Hat

>> 5-something, the CD is bootable, but I couldn't install that either, I

>> got stuck early on having no idea what dev1 & dev2 is. Maybe it's time

>> I should learn.

>>

>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:27:19 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>>

>>>If its a sata controler you would either

>>>1) need to create the floppy disk and use F6 option early in the win2k

>>>installation process to install third party drivers

>>>or

>>>2) create a slipstreamed installation cd of win2k containing the sata

>>>drivers

>>>

>>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

>>>news:1dpqe39f3gej3qkdda76acl9iqlkesag2s@4ax.com...

>>>

>>>>Found the driver at hp.com, "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller

>>>>Update", the files:

>>>>

>>>>nvata.cat

>>>>nvstor32.inf

>>>>nvstor32.sys

>>>>idecoi.dll

>>>>

>>>>what do I do now?

>>>>

>>>>On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:01:30 GMT, remove_@no.spam wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>The good news, I figured out how to boot from a USB flash drive. :)

>>>>>

>>>>>The bad news, Windows 2000 installation fails on the new HP computer.

>>>>>The installer copies files, reboots, but blue screens when attempting

>>>>>to access hard disk. Seems like I need to give win2k a new driver for

>>>>>the disk controller.

>>>>>

>>>>>The hardware: HP Pavilion a1730n desktop, motherboard Asus A8M2N-LA

>>>>>

>>>>>I have to install win2k, I can't get any work done in Vista. Any ideas

>>>>>where to get disk driver?

>>>>>

>>>>

>>

>

September 19, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

Yep, poking around on HP site looks like it is a Vista only box. Seems

OP didn't research purchase, although the specs seem ok if one was to

not turn on the eye candy.

DL wrote:

> I think you will find from op that PC was supplied with Vista and the op

> wished to dump vista & install win2k

>

> So not exactly a DOA, allthough they will likely finish up with an

> unsupported sys

>

> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:OVQnjPu%23HHA.4732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>

>>Seems that the correct solution would be RMAing the box back to HP, no

>>reason to accept a DOA box.

>>

>>remove_@no.spam wrote:

>>

>>>Thank you. This computer (like most) has no floppy drive, so I couldn't

>>>do F6.

>>>

>>>But I did slipstream SP4 into the original win2k. I still got a blue

>>>screen at "Starting Windows 2000" after the first boot, "stop:

>>>inaccessible boot device", yuck. The first setup session is in the

>>>Vista command console, so it has basic drivers, but win2k dies when it

>>>boots on its own.

>>>

>>>I slipstreamed SP4 using its own command line, but I have no idea how

>>>to slipstream a single SATA driver into the install. Anybody?

>>>

>>>Tried Vista for another day, it's scary and it has to go. I'm appalled

>>>by the lack of support from both HP and Microsoft, a brand new machine

>>>dead in the water. Having nothing to lose, I pulled out Red Hat

>>>5-something, the CD is bootable, but I couldn't install that either, I

>>>got stuck early on having no idea what dev1 & dev2 is. Maybe it's time

>>>I should learn.

>>>

>>>On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:27:19 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>>>

>>>>If its a sata controler you would either

>>>>1) need to create the floppy disk and use F6 option early in the win2k

>>>>installation process to install third party drivers

>>>>or

>>>>2) create a slipstreamed installation cd of win2k containing the sata

>>>>drivers

>>>>

>>>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

>>>>news:1dpqe39f3gej3qkdda76acl9iqlkesag2s@4ax.com...

>>>>

>>>>>Found the driver at hp.com, "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller

>>>>>Update", the files:

>>>>>

>>>>>nvata.cat

>>>>>nvstor32.inf

>>>>>nvstor32.sys

>>>>>idecoi.dll

>>>>>

>>>>>what do I do now?

>>>>>

>>>>>On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:01:30 GMT, remove_@no.spam wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>The good news, I figured out how to boot from a USB flash drive. :)

>>>>>>

>>>>>>The bad news, Windows 2000 installation fails on the new HP computer.

>>>>>>The installer copies files, reboots, but blue screens when attempting

>>>>>>to access hard disk. Seems like I need to give win2k a new driver for

>>>>>>the disk controller.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>The hardware: HP Pavilion a1730n desktop, motherboard Asus A8M2N-LA

>>>>>>

>>>>>>I have to install win2k, I can't get any work done in Vista. Any ideas

>>>>>>where to get disk driver?

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>

September 19, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

DL wrote:

> A usb floppy is cheap!

Raises an interesting question. Is the W2K install willing to input from

a usb device at the F6 stage? (Does it depend on the bios?).

If so, would it accept the driver on a usb flash drive?

September 19, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

Good point, may depend on the bios

"Sid Elbow" <mevagissey@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:ec1af$46f18aae$4c0a8021$26000@TEKSAVVY.COM...

> DL wrote:

>> A usb floppy is cheap!

>

> Raises an interesting question. Is the W2K install willing to input from a

> usb device at the F6 stage? (Does it depend on the bios?).

>

> If so, would it accept the driver on a usb flash drive?

September 20, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

I should work. I recently learned how to create bootable USB flash

drives. They show up as C: ,, you could boot Windows from it …

endless possibilities.

There are a couple of utilities that can write a boot record that

emulates a floppy disk and will boot as A: even as a Zip or LS120

drive (32 sectors and 64 heads). Most new machines BIOS will boot USB

flash drives. I ran Win2k setup from flash and it had no clue it was

running on a stick.

I was disappointed at how slow USB 2.0 flash drives are. It seems they

are faster with sequential read/write but NOT as fast in random

access. Though they work well writing 12mb RAW digital photos.

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:33:21 -0400, Sid Elbow <mevagissey@gmail.com>

wrote:

>DL wrote:

>> A usb floppy is cheap!

>

>Raises an interesting question. Is the W2K install willing to input from

>a usb device at the F6 stage? (Does it depend on the bios?).

>

>If so, would it accept the driver on a usb flash drive?

September 20, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

Sid Elbow wrote:

> DL wrote:

>

>> A usb floppy is cheap!

>

> Raises an interesting question. Is the W2K install willing to input from

> a usb device at the F6 stage? (Does it depend on the bios?).

>

> If so, would it accept the driver on a usb flash drive?

You *must* use a floppy diskette for driver installation using the F6

method. The setup program will not accept the drivers from any other

media source. You can use a USB floppy drive but not all USB floppy

drives are compatible with the setup program.

John

September 20, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

I researched, it was only $450 after rebate, and a very handsome

put0r. Aluminum/sliver gray combo, the only HP model that isn't black,

no black appliances for me! And like you said, a Vista box, but not

for long :) They should all come preloaded with several OSes and

the owner can boot his choice or even try them all out.

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:45:16 -0500, Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Yep, poking around on HP site looks like it is a Vista only box. Seems

>OP didn't research purchase, although the specs seem ok if one was to

>not turn on the eye candy.

>

>DL wrote:

>

>> I think you will find from op that PC was supplied with Vista and the op

>> wished to dump vista & install win2k

>>

>> So not exactly a DOA, allthough they will likely finish up with an

>> unsupported sys

>>

>> "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:OVQnjPu%23HHA.4732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>

>>>Seems that the correct solution would be RMAing the box back to HP, no

>>>reason to accept a DOA box.

>>>

>>>remove_@no.spam wrote:

>>>

>>>>Thank you. This computer (like most) has no floppy drive, so I couldn't

>>>>do F6.

>>>>

>>>>But I did slipstream SP4 into the original win2k. I still got a blue

>>>>screen at "Starting Windows 2000" after the first boot, "stop:

>>>>inaccessible boot device", yuck. The first setup session is in the

>>>>Vista command console, so it has basic drivers, but win2k dies when it

>>>>boots on its own.

>>>>

>>>>I slipstreamed SP4 using its own command line, but I have no idea how

>>>>to slipstream a single SATA driver into the install. Anybody?

>>>>

>>>>Tried Vista for another day, it's scary and it has to go. I'm appalled

>>>>by the lack of support from both HP and Microsoft, a brand new machine

>>>>dead in the water. Having nothing to lose, I pulled out Red Hat

>>>>5-something, the CD is bootable, but I couldn't install that either, I

>>>>got stuck early on having no idea what dev1 & dev2 is. Maybe it's time

>>>>I should learn.

>>>>

>>>>On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:27:19 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>If its a sata controler you would either

>>>>>1) need to create the floppy disk and use F6 option early in the win2k

>>>>>installation process to install third party drivers

>>>>>or

>>>>>2) create a slipstreamed installation cd of win2k containing the sata

>>>>>drivers

>>>>>

>>>>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

>>>>>news:1dpqe39f3gej3qkdda76acl9iqlkesag2s@4ax.com...

>>>>>

>>>>>>Found the driver at hp.com, "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller

>>>>>>Update", the files:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>nvata.cat

>>>>>>nvstor32.inf

>>>>>>nvstor32.sys

>>>>>>idecoi.dll

>>>>>>

>>>>>>what do I do now?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:01:30 GMT, remove_@no.spam wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>The good news, I figured out how to boot from a USB flash drive. :)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>The bad news, Windows 2000 installation fails on the new HP computer.

>>>>>>>The installer copies files, reboots, but blue screens when attempting

>>>>>>>to access hard disk. Seems like I need to give win2k a new driver for

>>>>>>>the disk controller.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>The hardware: HP Pavilion a1730n desktop, motherboard Asus A8M2N-LA

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>I have to install win2k, I can't get any work done in Vista. Any ideas

>>>>>>>where to get disk driver?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>

September 20, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

If you want to slipstream your SATA drivers, I think I saw an option

in the nLite slipstream program, when I was slipstreaming SP4 onto a

new 2000 disc. Umm... for the floppy issue, I would probably recommend

buying an IDE floppy drive, but you HAVE to make sure that you have

IDE floppy support (well, I guess you cvould get around that for a

little extra cash, by buying a PCI to IDE card, but, it's not worth

it). I am assuming that the system has no issues revolving around

hardware when I say the above info.

September 20, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

I'm no expert on this subject, but based on the hardware specs of your new

system, the HP Pavilion A1730N, it has a 64-bit processor and I don't believe

that the 32-bit Windows 2000 operating systems are compatible. See this article,

dated 03 Sep 2004, for more info:

Does Windows 2000 support the 64-bit processor?

http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/eac/knowledgebaseAnswer/0,295199,sid63_gci1053388,00.html

<remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

news:soq0f3tkephruuocft9h99nnu7q58il5od@4ax.com...

>

> It a standard Asus A8M2N-LA mobo, NVIDIA ForceWare video has fresh

> drivers online for both XP and 2000. For the mobo, controller, USB,

> etc, NVIDIA nForce 430-410-405-400 also has fresh drivers for Windows

> XP and 2000 . . no reason this machine cannot run win2k, it would kick

> ass too compared to Vista bloatware. No way I'm gonna buy a new

> machine that runs SLOWER than my old one.

>

> ....FAT32 partition size limits, I put up with it because I was dual

> booting win98 to test my software.

>

> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:04:05 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>

> >Before you try this, have you checked that your hardware supports win2k ie

> >are drivers available for win2k on this PC.

> >You may also find this invalidates any warranty/support.

> >

> >You are aware that win2k support will end in the not to distant future, ie

> >critial updates and then you will have to 'learn' vista.

> >You can alter the Vista interface to the more classic version.

> >I doubt there will be much real world performance increase.

> >32gb Fat limitation; so why didnt you convert to NTFS, or why did you

> >install this way?

> >IMO As someone who still has win2k pc's, a retrograde step you will probably

> >live to regret

> >

> ><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

> >news:ngsje3do4rejs263t4om6aaaj4sk2u4ske@4ax.com...

> >>I forgot to add . . .

> >>

> >> My old machine has several partitions due to FAT32's 32GB limitation,

> >> etc. I want to create a single NTFS partition. For the

> >> transfer/installation, I tried to create a bootable USB flash drive (a

> >> very interesting idea), but I couldn't do it. I also don't know how to

> >> burn a bootable CD, so I'm kind of stuck for a boot OS. I do know that

> >> after trying out Vista I appreciate win2k's no-frills stability, and

> >> with a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram it should fly.

> >>

> >> Thanks in advance

> >>

> >

>

September 20, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

You call verifying the color and price of a computer, research?!?!? I

suggest you sent it back, buy on of those $400 Dells with XP, and paint

that instead.

remove_@no.spam wrote:

> I researched, it was only $450 after rebate, and a very handsome

> put0r. Aluminum/sliver gray combo, the only HP model that isn't black,

> no black appliances for me! And like you said, a Vista box, but not

> for long :) They should all come preloaded with several OSes and

> the owner can boot his choice or even try them all out.

>

> On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:45:16 -0500, Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>>Yep, poking around on HP site looks like it is a Vista only box. Seems

>>OP didn't research purchase, although the specs seem ok if one was to

>>not turn on the eye candy.

>>

>>DL wrote:

>>

>>>I think you will find from op that PC was supplied with Vista and the op

>>>wished to dump vista & install win2k

>>>

>>>So not exactly a DOA, allthough they will likely finish up with an

>>>unsupported sys

>>>

>>>"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>>news:OVQnjPu%23HHA.4732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>>Seems that the correct solution would be RMAing the box back to HP, no

>>>>reason to accept a DOA box.

>>>>

>>>>remove_@no.spam wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>Thank you. This computer (like most) has no floppy drive, so I couldn't

>>>>>do F6.

>>>>>

>>>>>But I did slipstream SP4 into the original win2k. I still got a blue

>>>>>screen at "Starting Windows 2000" after the first boot, "stop:

>>>>>inaccessible boot device", yuck. The first setup session is in the

>>>>>Vista command console, so it has basic drivers, but win2k dies when it

>>>>>boots on its own.

>>>>>

>>>>>I slipstreamed SP4 using its own command line, but I have no idea how

>>>>>to slipstream a single SATA driver into the install. Anybody?

>>>>>

>>>>>Tried Vista for another day, it's scary and it has to go. I'm appalled

>>>>>by the lack of support from both HP and Microsoft, a brand new machine

>>>>>dead in the water. Having nothing to lose, I pulled out Red Hat

>>>>>5-something, the CD is bootable, but I couldn't install that either, I

>>>>>got stuck early on having no idea what dev1 & dev2 is. Maybe it's time

>>>>>I should learn.

>>>>>

>>>>>On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:27:19 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>>If its a sata controler you would either

>>>>>>1) need to create the floppy disk and use F6 option early in the win2k

>>>>>>installation process to install third party drivers

>>>>>>or

>>>>>>2) create a slipstreamed installation cd of win2k containing the sata

>>>>>>drivers

>>>>>>

>>>>>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

>>>>>>news:1dpqe39f3gej3qkdda76acl9iqlkesag2s@4ax.com...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Found the driver at hp.com, "NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA Controller

>>>>>>>Update", the files:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>nvata.cat

>>>>>>>nvstor32.inf

>>>>>>>nvstor32.sys

>>>>>>>idecoi.dll

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>what do I do now?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:01:30 GMT, remove_@no.spam wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>The good news, I figured out how to boot from a USB flash drive. :)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>The bad news, Windows 2000 installation fails on the new HP computer.

>>>>>>>>The installer copies files, reboots, but blue screens when attempting

>>>>>>>>to access hard disk. Seems like I need to give win2k a new driver for

>>>>>>>>the disk controller.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>The hardware: HP Pavilion a1730n desktop, motherboard Asus A8M2N-LA

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>I have to install win2k, I can't get any work done in Vista. Any ideas

>>>>>>>>where to get disk driver?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>

>

September 20, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

You can install 32-bit operating systems on most 64-bit processors

(providing it is not an Itanium processor). You will not have 64-bit

processing but it will run just fine in 32-bit. This is done everyday

with 32-bit XP and Vista versions, many are installed on 64-bit

processors. No different for Windows 2000, it should run fine as long

as you have the proper drivers for the hardware, that (drivers) is

usually the stumbling block, not the 64-bit processors.

John

David Webb wrote:

> I'm no expert on this subject, but based on the hardware specs of your new

> system, the HP Pavilion A1730N, it has a 64-bit processor and I don't believe

> that the 32-bit Windows 2000 operating systems are compatible. See this article,

> dated 03 Sep 2004, for more info:

>

> Does Windows 2000 support the 64-bit processor?

> http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/eac/knowledgebaseAnswer/0,295199,sid63_gci1053388,00.html

>

> <remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

> news:soq0f3tkephruuocft9h99nnu7q58il5od@4ax.com...

>

>>It a standard Asus A8M2N-LA mobo, NVIDIA ForceWare video has fresh

>>drivers online for both XP and 2000. For the mobo, controller, USB,

>>etc, NVIDIA nForce 430-410-405-400 also has fresh drivers for Windows

>>XP and 2000 . . no reason this machine cannot run win2k, it would kick

>>ass too compared to Vista bloatware. No way I'm gonna buy a new

>>machine that runs SLOWER than my old one.

>>

>>....FAT32 partition size limits, I put up with it because I was dual

>>booting win98 to test my software.

>>

>>On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:04:05 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>>

>>>Before you try this, have you checked that your hardware supports win2k ie

>>>are drivers available for win2k on this PC.

>>>You may also find this invalidates any warranty/support.

>>>

>>>You are aware that win2k support will end in the not to distant future, ie

>>>critial updates and then you will have to 'learn' vista.

>>>You can alter the Vista interface to the more classic version.

>>>I doubt there will be much real world performance increase.

>>>32gb Fat limitation; so why didnt you convert to NTFS, or why did you

>>>install this way?

>>>IMO As someone who still has win2k pc's, a retrograde step you will probably

>>>live to regret

>>>

>>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

>>>news:ngsje3do4rejs263t4om6aaaj4sk2u4ske@4ax.com...

>>>

>>>>I forgot to add . . .

>>>>

>>>>My old machine has several partitions due to FAT32's 32GB limitation,

>>>>etc. I want to create a single NTFS partition. For the

>>>>transfer/installation, I tried to create a bootable USB flash drive (a

>>>>very interesting idea), but I couldn't do it. I also don't know how to

>>>>burn a bootable CD, so I'm kind of stuck for a boot OS. I do know that

>>>>after trying out Vista I appreciate win2k's no-frills stability, and

>>>>with a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram it should fly.

>>>>

>>>>Thanks in advance

>>>>

>>>

>

September 20, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

remove_@no.spam wrote:

> I should work. I recently learned how to create bootable USB flash

> drives. They show up as C: ,, you could boot Windows from it …

> endless possibilities.

*Bootable* USB device, I know for sure is a function of the BIOS.

Motherboard/BIOS's have always been a long way behind the rest of the

technology when it comes to boot options. Zip drives had been out for

years before they were included as a boot option in the BIOS. AFAIK no

versions of USB-1 were ever bootable. All of my system Motherboards are

a few years old now but all are USB-2 and none of them has a USB boot

option.

I imagine (haven't checked) that all recent motherboards would be OK though.

In the context of this thread though, *bootable* was not an issue - that

would be done from the install cd. The question was whether the install

program would recognise a USB drive to get drivers from once it got started.

September 20, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

John,

Thanks for the clarification. From all the Google searches I did on this

subject, not one came up with a recommendation to marry Windows 2000 with this

processor, not even AMD's website.

I'd say that the best approach, for the OP, would be to install either Windows

XP Home, Pro, or MCE 2005, or s/he could simply wait for the Vista OS to mature.

"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

news:emW6Yo4%23HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> You can install 32-bit operating systems on most 64-bit processors

> (providing it is not an Itanium processor). You will not have 64-bit

> processing but it will run just fine in 32-bit. This is done everyday

> with 32-bit XP and Vista versions, many are installed on 64-bit

> processors. No different for Windows 2000, it should run fine as long

> as you have the proper drivers for the hardware, that (drivers) is

> usually the stumbling block, not the 64-bit processors.

>

> John

>

> David Webb wrote:

>

> > I'm no expert on this subject, but based on the hardware specs of your new

> > system, the HP Pavilion A1730N, it has a 64-bit processor and I don't

believe

> > that the 32-bit Windows 2000 operating systems are compatible. See this

article,

> > dated 03 Sep 2004, for more info:

> >

> > Does Windows 2000 support the 64-bit processor?

> >

http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/eac/knowledgebaseAnswer/0,295199,sid63_gci1053388,00.html

> >

> > <remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

> > news:soq0f3tkephruuocft9h99nnu7q58il5od@4ax.com...

> >

> >>It a standard Asus A8M2N-LA mobo, NVIDIA ForceWare video has fresh

> >>drivers online for both XP and 2000. For the mobo, controller, USB,

> >>etc, NVIDIA nForce 430-410-405-400 also has fresh drivers for Windows

> >>XP and 2000 . . no reason this machine cannot run win2k, it would kick

> >>ass too compared to Vista bloatware. No way I'm gonna buy a new

> >>machine that runs SLOWER than my old one.

> >>

> >>....FAT32 partition size limits, I put up with it because I was dual

> >>booting win98 to test my software.

> >>

> >>On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:04:05 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

> >>

> >>>Before you try this, have you checked that your hardware supports win2k ie

> >>>are drivers available for win2k on this PC.

> >>>You may also find this invalidates any warranty/support.

> >>>

> >>>You are aware that win2k support will end in the not to distant future, ie

> >>>critial updates and then you will have to 'learn' vista.

> >>>You can alter the Vista interface to the more classic version.

> >>>I doubt there will be much real world performance increase.

> >>>32gb Fat limitation; so why didnt you convert to NTFS, or why did you

> >>>install this way?

> >>>IMO As someone who still has win2k pc's, a retrograde step you will

probably

> >>>live to regret

> >>>

> >>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

> >>>news:ngsje3do4rejs263t4om6aaaj4sk2u4ske@4ax.com...

> >>>

> >>>>I forgot to add . . .

> >>>>

> >>>>My old machine has several partitions due to FAT32's 32GB limitation,

> >>>>etc. I want to create a single NTFS partition. For the

> >>>>transfer/installation, I tried to create a bootable USB flash drive (a

> >>>>very interesting idea), but I couldn't do it. I also don't know how to

> >>>>burn a bootable CD, so I'm kind of stuck for a boot OS. I do know that

> >>>>after trying out Vista I appreciate win2k's no-frills stability, and

> >>>>with a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram it should fly.

> >>>>

> >>>>Thanks in advance

> >>>>

> >>>

> >

>

September 20, 2007

Re: Transferring Win2000 to a new computer

Well, the notebook version of the processor supports Windows 2000 so I

can only assume that the desktop version also would:

Operating System Compatibility

AMD Athlon 64 X2 dual-core processors for notebook PCs are designed to

be compatible with Windows® XP Professional x64 Edition, Microsoft

Windows® XP Professional, Windows XP Home Edition, Windows 98, Windows

ME, Windows NT®, Windows 2000, Linux®, and other PC operating systems,

including Windows Vista™.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9484_15184,00.html

As I said earlier, usually it isn't the processor that is the problem,

it's the rest of the hardware that the processor is mounted on. I agree

with you however that it would be better to use a newer operating system

on these new computers. It is getting increasingly difficult to get

older operating systems to properly install on new hardware.

John

David Webb wrote:

> John,

>

> Thanks for the clarification. From all the Google searches I did on this

> subject, not one came up with a recommendation to marry Windows 2000 with this

> processor, not even AMD's website.

>

> I'd say that the best approach, for the OP, would be to install either Windows

> XP Home, Pro, or MCE 2005, or s/he could simply wait for the Vista OS to mature.

>

> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message

> news:emW6Yo4%23HHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>

>>You can install 32-bit operating systems on most 64-bit processors

>>(providing it is not an Itanium processor). You will not have 64-bit

>>processing but it will run just fine in 32-bit. This is done everyday

>>with 32-bit XP and Vista versions, many are installed on 64-bit

>>processors. No different for Windows 2000, it should run fine as long

>>as you have the proper drivers for the hardware, that (drivers) is

>>usually the stumbling block, not the 64-bit processors.

>>

>>John

>>

>>David Webb wrote:

>>

>>>I'm no expert on this subject, but based on the hardware specs of your new

>>>system, the HP Pavilion A1730N, it has a 64-bit processor and I don't

>

> believe

>

>>>that the 32-bit Windows 2000 operating systems are compatible. See this

>

> article,

>

>>>dated 03 Sep 2004, for more info:

>>>

>>>Does Windows 2000 support the 64-bit processor?

>>>

>

> http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/eac/knowledgebaseAnswer/0,295199,sid63_gci1053388,00.html

>

>>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

>>>news:soq0f3tkephruuocft9h99nnu7q58il5od@4ax.com...

>>>

>>>>It a standard Asus A8M2N-LA mobo, NVIDIA ForceWare video has fresh

>>>>drivers online for both XP and 2000. For the mobo, controller, USB,

>>>>etc, NVIDIA nForce 430-410-405-400 also has fresh drivers for Windows

>>>>XP and 2000 . . no reason this machine cannot run win2k, it would kick

>>>>ass too compared to Vista bloatware. No way I'm gonna buy a new

>>>>machine that runs SLOWER than my old one.

>>>>

>>>>....FAT32 partition size limits, I put up with it because I was dual

>>>>booting win98 to test my software.

>>>>

>>>>On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:04:05 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>Before you try this, have you checked that your hardware supports win2k ie

>>>>>are drivers available for win2k on this PC.

>>>>>You may also find this invalidates any warranty/support.

>>>>>

>>>>>You are aware that win2k support will end in the not to distant future, ie

>>>>>critial updates and then you will have to 'learn' vista.

>>>>>You can alter the Vista interface to the more classic version.

>>>>>I doubt there will be much real world performance increase.

>>>>>32gb Fat limitation; so why didnt you convert to NTFS, or why did you

>>>>>install this way?

>>>>>IMO As someone who still has win2k pc's, a retrograde step you will

>

> probably

>

>>>>>live to regret

>>>>>

>>>>><remove_@no.spam> wrote in message

>>>>>news:ngsje3do4rejs263t4om6aaaj4sk2u4ske@4ax.com...

>>>>>

>>>>>>I forgot to add . . .

>>>>>>

>>>>>>My old machine has several partitions due to FAT32's 32GB limitation,

>>>>>>etc. I want to create a single NTFS partition. For the

>>>>>>transfer/installation, I tried to create a bootable USB flash drive (a

>>>>>>very interesting idea), but I couldn't do it. I also don't know how to

>>>>>>burn a bootable CD, so I'm kind of stuck for a boot OS. I do know that

>>>>>>after trying out Vista I appreciate win2k's no-frills stability, and

>>>>>>with a dual core processor and 2 gigs of ram it should fly.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Thanks in advance

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>

>

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