need usb NIC driver to load before logging on to domain

[Guest auxvivrespos@gmail.com]

I'm currently administering a touchscreen workstation running win2k,

that operates without a keyboard and operates on a win2k-based

domain. Since there is no keyboard, the workstation is configured to

log on to the network domain automatically.

 

This particular workstation is using a usb-based network interface

card. The network adapter is a Linksys USB200M. Because this adapter

is usb-based its drivers seem to either take longer to load or are

loaded later in the bootup process. This creates a problem whereby

the Winlogon process attempts to automatically log on to the domain

controller, and retrieve its roaming user profile BEFORE the network

adapter has finished loading. Consequently, windows reports that it

cannot retrieve the roaming user profile from the network share and

reverts to a locally cached copy.

 

I would like to ensure that the network adapter's drivers have

finished loading before WinLogon initiates the logon process. I have

come across two links which seem to suggest this is possible:

 

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];193888

 

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];115486

 

The first link in particular describes what I think is the the best

solution: Making the WinLogon service dependent on the network

adapter's device driver. In this case the logon would begin only

after the device driver has loaded.

 

I would like to try to create such a dependency by modifying the

appropriate registry keys but I need to know what system service is in

charge of WinLogon? I have found a "Netlogon" service but nothing

which is explicitly labelled as "WinLogon"

[Guest Dave Patrick]

Re: need usb NIC driver to load before logging on to domain

 

Here's maybe some insight.

 

http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2005/07/24/running-windows-with-no-services.aspx

 

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Regards,

 

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<auxvivrespos@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm currently administering a touchscreen workstation running win2k,

> that operates without a keyboard and operates on a win2k-based

> domain. Since there is no keyboard, the workstation is configured to

> log on to the network domain automatically.

>

> This particular workstation is using a usb-based network interface

> card. The network adapter is a Linksys USB200M. Because this adapter

> is usb-based its drivers seem to either take longer to load or are

> loaded later in the bootup process. This creates a problem whereby

> the Winlogon process attempts to automatically log on to the domain

> controller, and retrieve its roaming user profile BEFORE the network

> adapter has finished loading. Consequently, windows reports that it

> cannot retrieve the roaming user profile from the network share and

> reverts to a locally cached copy.

>

> I would like to ensure that the network adapter's drivers have

> finished loading before WinLogon initiates the logon process. I have

> come across two links which seem to suggest this is possible:

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];193888

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];115486

>

> The first link in particular describes what I think is the the best

> solution: Making the WinLogon service dependent on the network

> adapter's device driver. In this case the logon would begin only

> after the device driver has loaded.

>

> I would like to try to create such a dependency by modifying the

> appropriate registry keys but I need to know what system service is in

> charge of WinLogon? I have found a "Netlogon" service but nothing

> which is explicitly labelled as "WinLogon"

>

[Guest John John]

Re: need usb NIC driver to load before logging on to domain

 

I think that the problem lies not with the NIC card itself but in the

manner in which the USB stack and drivers are initialized and loaded

when Windows boots. The card cannot communicate with the nerwork until

the USB subsystem is completely loaded. You can try but it might be

rather difficult to modify the load order of the USB subsystem, a way

easier remedy would be to use a PCI NIC (if the workstation has free PCI

slots).

 

John

 

auxvivrespos@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm currently administering a touchscreen workstation running win2k,

> that operates without a keyboard and operates on a win2k-based

> domain. Since there is no keyboard, the workstation is configured to

> log on to the network domain automatically.

>

> This particular workstation is using a usb-based network interface

> card. The network adapter is a Linksys USB200M. Because this adapter

> is usb-based its drivers seem to either take longer to load or are

> loaded later in the bootup process. This creates a problem whereby

> the Winlogon process attempts to automatically log on to the domain

> controller, and retrieve its roaming user profile BEFORE the network

> adapter has finished loading. Consequently, windows reports that it

> cannot retrieve the roaming user profile from the network share and

> reverts to a locally cached copy.

>

> I would like to ensure that the network adapter's drivers have

> finished loading before WinLogon initiates the logon process. I have

> come across two links which seem to suggest this is possible:

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];193888

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];115486

>

> The first link in particular describes what I think is the the best

> solution: Making the WinLogon service dependent on the network

> adapter's device driver. In this case the logon would begin only

> after the device driver has loaded.

>

> I would like to try to create such a dependency by modifying the

> appropriate registry keys but I need to know what system service is in

> charge of WinLogon? I have found a "Netlogon" service but nothing

> which is explicitly labelled as "WinLogon"

>

[Guest auxvivrespos@gmail.com]

Re: need usb NIC driver to load before logging on to domain

 

Unfortunately for this particular workstation, a PCI NIC is not an

option. I agree that the problem is related to the order in which

drivers are loaded and in which services are started.

 

I have identified a "Netlogon" key relating to the service of the same

name, in the registry under HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\

Netlogon is configured to depend on the LanmanWorkstation which is

described as "Providing network connections and communications." I'm

only guessing, but this sounds like the service I need to delay so I

made LanmanWorkstation depend upon the USB200M driver by following the

method described at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/193888 This did

not seem to work and, looking at the bootlog, all the drivers seem to

load as they did before the change was made. I'm not sure if there's

another service upon which I should have made the dependency.

[Guest auxvivrespos@gmail.com]

Re: need usb NIC driver to load before logging on to domain

 

Just an update: I may have found a workable solution to my problem.

I found a discussion of a similar issue at

http://www.webservertalk.com/archive48-2004-11-503918.html As that

thread suggests, I disabled DHCP on this particular workstation,

assigned a static IP address and I now have no problems retrieving a

roaming user profile or mapping network drives. Having to switch to a

static IP address is hardly an ideal, nor an intuitive solution. I

still think there's a better way to have the computer wait for the NIC

drivers to load before attempting to log onto the network, but at this

point I'll take what I can get.