Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

The first sign of evil was the "search bar" that was automatically included

if you didn't pay attention. But now they've made it mandatory for the Basic

(free) version. No way will they EVER see a dime from me, and I'll now have

to find an alternative to this useful utility that ran quite well in x64.

 

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Charlie.

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[Guest Jud Hendrix]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:21:33 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"

<charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>No way will they EVER see a dime from me,

 

Block it from accessing the outside world?

 

j

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

I don't have a problem with programs that are commercial. But "free"

programs that suddenly add in special search bars to your browser and that

pump ads to your machine are simply malware. When you can easily opt out,

_and it's clear up front how to do that_, I can just barely tolerate it.

When the malware is mandatory? Sorry, that crosses the line.

 

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Charlie.

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"Jud Hendrix" <none@none.com> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:21:33 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"

> <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>

>>No way will they EVER see a dime from me,

>

> Block it from accessing the outside world?

>

> j

[Guest Jud Hendrix]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:00:54 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"

<charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>When the malware is mandatory? Sorry, that crosses the line.

 

It does. But unless you have problems, there would be no reason that you

have to upgrade to the newer versions with "forced" adware. I reckon we

will soon see other CD/DVD-emulators pop-up, made under GPL, by the people

who hate this action by the DT-people.

 

jud

[Guest Carlos]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

Jud:

Here's a good place to start the search of another alternative.

http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/dvdcdemulators.shtml

Carlos

 

"Jud Hendrix" wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:00:54 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"

> <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>

> >When the malware is mandatory? Sorry, that crosses the line.

>

> It does. But unless you have problems, there would be no reason that you

> have to upgrade to the newer versions with "forced" adware. I reckon we

> will soon see other CD/DVD-emulators pop-up, made under GPL, by the people

> who hate this action by the DT-people.

>

> jud

>

[Guest Carlos]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

Here's a freeware one:

http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm

with Vista x64 support

http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm

http://www.magicdisc.net/setup_magicdisc79.exe

Carlos

 

"Jud Hendrix" wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:00:54 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"

> <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>

> >When the malware is mandatory? Sorry, that crosses the line.

>

> It does. But unless you have problems, there would be no reason that you

> have to upgrade to the newer versions with "forced" adware. I reckon we

> will soon see other CD/DVD-emulators pop-up, made under GPL, by the people

> who hate this action by the DT-people.

>

> jud

>

[Guest Homer J. Simpson]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

> The first sign of evil was the "search bar" that was automatically

> included if you didn't pay attention. But now they've made it mandatory

> for the Basic (free) version. No way will they EVER see a dime from me,

> and I'll now have to find an alternative to this useful utility that ran

> quite well in x64.

 

I've just gone to the download page, and still see 4.10 (which doesn't force

it).

 

?!

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

I have a paid copy of MagicISO. Unfortunately, it's pretty flakey on 64bit.

Not sure why, or what the issue is, but I've pretty much stopped using it.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Here's a freeware one:

> http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm

> with Vista x64 support

> http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm

> http://www.magicdisc.net/setup_magicdisc79.exe

> Carlos

>

> "Jud Hendrix" wrote:

>

>> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:00:54 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"

>> <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>>

>> >When the malware is mandatory? Sorry, that crosses the line.

>>

>> It does. But unless you have problems, there would be no reason that you

>> have to upgrade to the newer versions with "forced" adware. I reckon we

>> will soon see other CD/DVD-emulators pop-up, made under GPL, by the

>> people

>> who hate this action by the DT-people.

>>

>> jud

>>

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

4.10 Lite is on the DL page. The last version that doesn't force it for the

full product is 4.09.

 

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"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message

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>> The first sign of evil was the "search bar" that was automatically

>> included if you didn't pay attention. But now they've made it mandatory

>> for the Basic (free) version. No way will they EVER see a dime from me,

>> and I'll now have to find an alternative to this useful utility that ran

>> quite well in x64.

>

> I've just gone to the download page, and still see 4.10 (which doesn't

> force it).

>

> ?!

>

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

There are some others, just none I liked nearly as much as Daemon. Many of

the others are, at best, flakey. I _just_ need the ability to mount DVD/CD

ISOs as drive letters. Preferably with a graphical interface, since I'm lazy

and can't be bothered with learning a command line for this, even though I

do command line for many, many things.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Jud Hendrix" <none@none.com> wrote in message

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> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:00:54 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"

> <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>

>>When the malware is mandatory? Sorry, that crosses the line.

>

> It does. But unless you have problems, there would be no reason that you

> have to upgrade to the newer versions with "forced" adware. I reckon we

> will soon see other CD/DVD-emulators pop-up, made under GPL, by the people

> who hate this action by the DT-people.

>

> jud

[Guest Homer J. Simpson]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

> 4.10 Lite is on the DL page. The last version that doesn't force it for

> the full product is 4.09.

 

From http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php?mode=ViewCategory&catid=5,

under "Daemon Tools Lite 4.10 x86":

 

"This version has an option to install client-side software applications

(DAEMON Tools Searchbar and Save Now) that [...]"

 

Note "option".

 

I've just downloaded and installed it in a clean VM on VirtualPC. At the

Select Components screen in the install wizard, I've removed the 'Daemon

Tools Search Bar' checkbox and proceeded as usual.

 

For good measure, I installed Ad-Aware, let it update itself, and did a

scan. So far, I'm not seeing any more evidence of crapware than in any

previous version...

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

Hmmm. The feature set for Lite looks like significantly less than previous

free versions. But if it at least works, and doesn't require it, that's

good. But honestly, they've reached my gag point. I'm actively looking for

alternatives.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message

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>> 4.10 Lite is on the DL page. The last version that doesn't force it for

>> the full product is 4.09.

>

> From

> http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php?mode=ViewCategory&catid=5,

> under "Daemon Tools Lite 4.10 x86":

>

> "This version has an option to install client-side software applications

> (DAEMON Tools Searchbar and Save Now) that [...]"

>

> Note "option".

>

> I've just downloaded and installed it in a clean VM on VirtualPC. At the

> Select Components screen in the install wizard, I've removed the 'Daemon

> Tools Search Bar' checkbox and proceeded as usual.

>

> For good measure, I installed Ad-Aware, let it update itself, and did a

> scan. So far, I'm not seeing any more evidence of crapware than in any

> previous version...

>

[Guest Homer J. Simpson]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

> Hmmm. The feature set for Lite looks like significantly less than previous

> free versions. But if it at least works, and doesn't require it, that's

> good. But honestly, they've reached my gag point. I'm actively looking for

> alternatives.

 

"Feature set".

 

Well, it mounts ISOs, I can tell it not to install crap, it's free and it

doesn't make my machine crash. It still fits the bill for me.

 

But you're right, the nanosecond it forces me to install spyware, it'll get

purged and it won't get a second chance.

[Guest Ken]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

news:FBADC606-DD95-4AB2-B74E-568ABEFB472C@microsoft.com:

> Hmmm. The feature set for Lite looks like significantly less than

> previous free versions. But if it at least works, and doesn't require

> it, that's good. But honestly, they've reached my gag point. I'm

> actively looking for alternatives.

>

 

I use UltraIso. It's not free and is a full featured program for editing

and creating iso files. It has an iso mounting shell that is not at all

flakey. The Daemon Tools program was especially suited for use with

protected game CDs. UltraIso does not do protection circumvention.

 

http://www.ezbsystems.com/ultraiso/

 

 

Ken

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: Sigh. Daemon Tools goes commercial or Adware only

 

thanks

 

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"Ken" <mymail@mail.com> wrote in message

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> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

> news:FBADC606-DD95-4AB2-B74E-568ABEFB472C@microsoft.com:

>

>> Hmmm. The feature set for Lite looks like significantly less than

>> previous free versions. But if it at least works, and doesn't require

>> it, that's good. But honestly, they've reached my gag point. I'm

>> actively looking for alternatives.

>>

>

> I use UltraIso. It's not free and is a full featured program for editing

> and creating iso files. It has an iso mounting shell that is not at all

> flakey. The Daemon Tools program was especially suited for use with

> protected game CDs. UltraIso does not do protection circumvention.

>

> http://www.ezbsystems.com/ultraiso/

>

>

> Ken