Validation Required

[Guest Clayton]

Why am I prompted every time I want to download a hot fix etc to validate

windows?, sure the first time I do this is adequate enough?

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: Validation Required

 

Personally, I agree. But this appears to something MS is going to do, and

it's not anything we're likely to change, so I don't fight about it. I save

my fights for things where I think I have a chance of winning.

 

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Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

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> Why am I prompted every time I want to download a hot fix etc to validate

> windows?, sure the first time I do this is adequate enough?

>

>

>

[Guest Clayton]

Re: Validation Required

 

Just another annoyance to add to my list

 

 

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

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> Personally, I agree. But this appears to something MS is going to do, and

> it's not anything we're likely to change, so I don't fight about it. I

> save my fights for things where I think I have a chance of winning.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

>

> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

> news:%23uFHJpuAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Why am I prompted every time I want to download a hot fix etc to validate

>> windows?, sure the first time I do this is adequate enough?

>>

>>

>>

>

[Guest Matthew Hawkins]

Re: Validation Required

 

"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

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> Just another annoyance to add to my list

>

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:EB163A65-A002-45B8-A7DE-8FE72ECD192F@microsoft.com...

>> Personally, I agree. But this appears to something MS is going to do, and

>> it's not anything we're likely to change, so I don't fight about it. I

>> save my fights for things where I think I have a chance of winning.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>>

>> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

>> news:%23uFHJpuAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Why am I prompted every time I want to download a hot fix etc to

>>> validate windows?, sure the first time I do this is adequate enough?

 

Don't feel bad Clayton, I was asked to re-activate my copy of Vista within

the first week. I added some more ram and plugged in a hard drive (that

wasn't formatted). Apparently this was considered enough to warrant

flagging me as some kind of evil pirate attempting to run this copy of Vista

on a different machine. To their credit M$ gave me a new activation code,

however all my queries regarding the frequency of having to re-activate were

met with topic changes. Huzzah for call-centre scripts. I signed off the

call with "talk to you next time I add a hard drive!" ;-)

 

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A: because it breaks the flow of conversation

Q: why is top-posting bad?

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: Validation Required

 

You are right, but activation and validation are two completely different

issues - and none of them is a registration!

 

Activation is trivial - you are not suspected of anything. You press a

button and you're done.

 

There still are limits to software intelligence and in your case the

software considered your system to be a new system.

 

 

Tony. . .

[Guest Clayton]

Re: Validation Required

 

But surely if you make enough changes to your hardware that warrants

"Activation" what has that got to do with "Validation" if your systems has

been Activated why Validate over and over?

 

Pointless if you ask me

 

 

"Tony Sperling mail.dk>" <tony.sperling@db<REMOVE> wrote in message

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> You are right, but activation and validation are two completely different

> issues - and none of them is a registration!

>

> Activation is trivial - you are not suspected of anything. You press a

> button and you're done.

>

> There still are limits to software intelligence and in your case the

> software considered your system to be a new system.

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: Validation Required

 

Provided we talk of the same 'Validation' - like I said, they are completely

different issues. The Activation is ty'ing the OS to the Hardware it runs

on, while the Validation is confirming that your OS is a valid copy - which,

obviously, is something that they want you to do but specifically with

certain types of downloads that wouldn't make any sense being broadcast to

the general public. Beyond that, I imagine, for things like Beta's and

Pre-views and Hotfixes there are lots of good reasons why you wouldn't want

to lay them out for a public download.

 

The 'funny' thing is, the validation seems to be recognized for multiple

downloads during the same session, but come back later, and you'll have to

do it again. O.K. it's irritating, but not really any big deal when you

think about it. If you can be expected to want more of these within a short

time-span, I'd suggest doing them all in one session. To the best of my

knowledge, it will ease your experience somewhat. Microsoft seems to be

particularly squirmish about hotfixes, probably because the download can be

tied to the bugtracking. After all, these are candidates for inclusion in

the next Service-Pack, and it is rather non-trivial wether or not they do in

fact fix the issues they target.

 

The Validation, really is one issue where I think a major manufacturer like

MS is commendable for showing a bit of paranoia - because in this particular

instance the paranoia follows the product and not the user. In the end it

will come back as value for the user. As for the activation, this is a

non-issue, for me, it is too trivial to spend time about. I've developed a

spinal reaction and just press the button.

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

 

"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

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> But surely if you make enough changes to your hardware that warrants

> "Activation" what has that got to do with "Validation" if your systems has

> been Activated why Validate over and over?

>

> Pointless if you ask me

>

>

> "Tony Sperling mail.dk>" <tony.sperling@db<REMOVE> wrote in message

> news:%23SH49oIBIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> You are right, but activation and validation are two completely

>> different issues - and none of them is a registration!

>>

>> Activation is trivial - you are not suspected of anything. You press a

>> button and you're done.

>>

>> There still are limits to software intelligence and in your case the

>> software considered your system to be a new system.

>>

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>>

>