Windows is not letting me log on

[Guest AceViper]

I have been trying to move my boot partition off of my noisy hard drive onto

a new quiet hard drive. I first tried copying and pasting my whole C: drive

to my brand new SATA hard drive. after rebooting the system it had a hard

time rebooting again. I had to go into bios and reset the right boot

priority. it would not boot to the new SATA hard drive because i did not do

it properly with the proper program. I did not want to delete what was on it

to properly do it. so i wanted to use a smaller PATA HDD and used the Seagate

program that came with the computer. I used a process that would take the

boot off of the old drive and put it onto the transfering drive. well 75%

through the process while it was to "copying" the information the computer

went into screen saver mode while i was away. when i came back to check it

the computer was frozen up but the light on the front was to blinking as

though it were still working. i tried ctr+alt+del many times on it would not

unfreeze. so i held my power button to shut it down. when i tried to reboot

my system it gets to the windows logo and what would normally be the screen

that would let me click on a profile and have it load up is now a log on to

windows, window that has my name instead of my profile filled into a box

requesting a password i do not have set. when i try to log in using no

password it tells me that it's logging out and either freezes or goes back to

the log on screen. it wont let me into my computer. i've tried safe mode and

i get the same thing. Please help i do not want to reinstall windows again

for the 5th time or so, and loose everything. again!

 

note: I have many other xp computers in my house and the Vista basic laptop

i am using.

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when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

You don't say what system you are trying to copy, but the key of a

successful duplication is to have the new drive enumerate the same as the

old one during the first boot.

 

"AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:620DD369-E736-4684-BE84-F3BBA10D76C9@microsoft.com...

>I have been trying to move my boot partition off of my noisy hard drive

>onto

> a new quiet hard drive. I first tried copying and pasting my whole C:

> drive

> to my brand new SATA hard drive. after rebooting the system it had a hard

> time rebooting again. I had to go into bios and reset the right boot

> priority. it would not boot to the new SATA hard drive because i did not

> do

> it properly with the proper program. I did not want to delete what was on

> it

> to properly do it. so i wanted to use a smaller PATA HDD and used the

> Seagate

> program that came with the computer. I used a process that would take the

> boot off of the old drive and put it onto the transfering drive. well 75%

> through the process while it was to "copying" the information the computer

> went into screen saver mode while i was away. when i came back to check it

> the computer was frozen up but the light on the front was to blinking as

> though it were still working. i tried ctr+alt+del many times on it would

> not

> unfreeze. so i held my power button to shut it down. when i tried to

> reboot

> my system it gets to the windows logo and what would normally be the

> screen

> that would let me click on a profile and have it load up is now a log on

> to

> windows, window that has my name instead of my profile filled into a box

> requesting a password i do not have set. when i try to log in using no

> password it tells me that it's logging out and either freezes or goes back

> to

> the log on screen. it wont let me into my computer. i've tried safe mode

> and

> i get the same thing. Please help i do not want to reinstall windows again

> for the 5th time or so, and loose everything. again!

>

> note: I have many other xp computers in my house and the Vista basic

> laptop

> i am using.

> --

> when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

[Guest AceViper]

RE: Windows is not letting me log on

 

My computer is using xp professional but not the x64 edition i dont think.

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

The advice I gave is even more necessary for XP, either version. The key to

a successful copy is to make sure that the copy is enumerated the same as

the original before it is first booted. Simply, if the current system

enumerates as C, the copy must be on the first primary partition on the

first drive in boot priority in the BIOS. Other configurations can get

complicated.

 

"AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> My computer is using xp professional but not the x64 edition i dont think.

[Guest AceViper]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

Idk know if the program performing the operation did that or not. copying was

75% complete before the system froze. windows is showing up but letting me

log in. it acts like its gonna and then it imediately tells me it's logging

off and goes back to the previous screen even use of the "Administrator

account is not working." Is there any way at all to fix what you where

talking about with a 75% copied drive without getting into the OS to do it.

Or will i have to reinstall windows on the drive i intended to copy the boot

to.

--

when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

 

 

"John Barnes" wrote:

> The advice I gave is even more necessary for XP, either version. The key to

> a successful copy is to make sure that the copy is enumerated the same as

> the original before it is first booted. Simply, if the current system

> enumerates as C, the copy must be on the first primary partition on the

> first drive in boot priority in the BIOS. Other configurations can get

> complicated.

>

> "AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:0AEEC8FE-7B75-4B98-A777-0B5ADB001007@microsoft.com...

> > My computer is using xp professional but not the x64 edition i dont think.

>

>

[Guest AceViper]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

Up in the above i meant not letting me log in. when i try to boot from the

incomplete drive it says "windows could not start because the following file

is missing or corrupt:

<Windows root>\system32\hal.dll please reinstall a copy of the above file.

[Guest Jane C]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

AceViper,

 

Have you tried running a repair install? Boot from the XP CD, select the

option to repair the installation.

 

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Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

MVP - Windows Shell/User

 

"AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:00222CDC-70A3-4AF9-B737-5F5D3D6E0B17@microsoft.com...

> Up in the above i meant not letting me log in. when i try to boot from the

> incomplete drive it says "windows could not start because the following

> file

> is missing or corrupt:

> <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll please reinstall a copy of the above

> file.

>

[Guest AceViper]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

lol I never thought of that. i'll have to try once i find my Dang CD.

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

Its the one after the license acceptance, not the repair via the console.

 

"AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:00222CDC-70A3-4AF9-B737-5F5D3D6E0B17@microsoft.com...

> Up in the above i meant not letting me log in. when i try to boot from the

> incomplete drive it says "windows could not start because the following

> file

> is missing or corrupt:

> <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll please reinstall a copy of the above

> file.

>

[Guest AceViper]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

Jane or John,

 

should i attempt to repair on my transferring drive, old drive or both.

--

when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

 

 

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Its the one after the license acceptance, not the repair via the console.

>

> "AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:00222CDC-70A3-4AF9-B737-5F5D3D6E0B17@microsoft.com...

> > Up in the above i meant not letting me log in. when i try to boot from the

> > incomplete drive it says "windows could not start because the following

> > file

> > is missing or corrupt:

> > <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll please reinstall a copy of the above

> > file.

> >

>

>

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

Is your old system working, but only the hard drive needs to be replaced.

If the old system is working, I would recommend that you download and try

BootItNG to copy the old system to the new drive.

 

"AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Jane or John,

>

> should i attempt to repair on my transferring drive, old drive or both.

> --

> when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

>

>

> "John Barnes" wrote:

>

>> Its the one after the license acceptance, not the repair via the console.

>>

>> "AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:00222CDC-70A3-4AF9-B737-5F5D3D6E0B17@microsoft.com...

>> > Up in the above i meant not letting me log in. when i try to boot from

>> > the

>> > incomplete drive it says "windows could not start because the following

>> > file

>> > is missing or corrupt:

>> > <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll please reinstall a copy of the above

>> > file.

>> >

>>

>>

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

Sorry meant to include the link

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html

 

 

"AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Jane or John,

>

> should i attempt to repair on my transferring drive, old drive or both.

> --

> when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

>

>

> "John Barnes" wrote:

>

>> Its the one after the license acceptance, not the repair via the console.

>>

>> "AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:00222CDC-70A3-4AF9-B737-5F5D3D6E0B17@microsoft.com...

>> > Up in the above i meant not letting me log in. when i try to boot from

>> > the

>> > incomplete drive it says "windows could not start because the following

>> > file

>> > is missing or corrupt:

>> > <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll please reinstall a copy of the above

>> > file.

>> >

>>

>>

[Guest AceViper]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

that's what i originally intended to do using a seagate disk. except my old

system will not let me log in to it at all with safe-mode administrator or

anything. almost like a virus. and the new system never finished copying. i'd

like to use another computer but it turns out that mine is the only one using

HDD's in the FAT32 format so sticking the hard drives in another computer

wont work unless im wrong about being the only one.

--

when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

 

 

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Sorry meant to include the link

> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html

>

>

> "AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:6051782D-2A46-4A67-916B-A29046DFBA8B@microsoft.com...

> > Jane or John,

> >

> > should i attempt to repair on my transferring drive, old drive or both.

> > --

> > when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

> >

> >

> > "John Barnes" wrote:

> >

> >> Its the one after the license acceptance, not the repair via the console.

> >>

> >> "AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:00222CDC-70A3-4AF9-B737-5F5D3D6E0B17@microsoft.com...

> >> > Up in the above i meant not letting me log in. when i try to boot from

> >> > the

> >> > incomplete drive it says "windows could not start because the following

> >> > file

> >> > is missing or corrupt:

> >> > <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll please reinstall a copy of the above

> >> > file.

> >> >

> >>

> >>

>

>

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

Then I would run the repair on the old system first and see if you can get

it back to booting. Just what are the symptoms of hell? Error messages,

sparks, etc.

 

"AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:74835380-977F-4386-B5BF-A7D4476FED16@microsoft.com...

> that's what i originally intended to do using a seagate disk. except my

> old

> system will not let me log in to it at all with safe-mode administrator or

> anything. almost like a virus. and the new system never finished copying.

> i'd

> like to use another computer but it turns out that mine is the only one

> using

> HDD's in the FAT32 format so sticking the hard drives in another computer

> wont work unless im wrong about being the only one.

> --

> when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

>

>

> "John Barnes" wrote:

>

>> Sorry meant to include the link

>> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html

>>

>>

>> "AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:6051782D-2A46-4A67-916B-A29046DFBA8B@microsoft.com...

>> > Jane or John,

>> >

>> > should i attempt to repair on my transferring drive, old drive or both.

>> > --

>> > when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

>> >

>> >

>> > "John Barnes" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Its the one after the license acceptance, not the repair via the

>> >> console.

>> >>

>> >> "AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:00222CDC-70A3-4AF9-B737-5F5D3D6E0B17@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Up in the above i meant not letting me log in. when i try to boot

>> >> > from

>> >> > the

>> >> > incomplete drive it says "windows could not start because the

>> >> > following

>> >> > file

>> >> > is missing or corrupt:

>> >> > <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll please reinstall a copy of the

>> >> > above

>> >> > file.

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

[Guest AceViper]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

lol my definition of hell with computers is being at risk of loosing all my

crap cuz i cant get into it or solve the problem. sparks would add to it,

though its never happened before.

--

when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

 

 

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Then I would run the repair on the old system first and see if you can get

> it back to booting. Just what are the symptoms of hell? Error messages,

> sparks, etc.

>

> "AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:74835380-977F-4386-B5BF-A7D4476FED16@microsoft.com...

> > that's what i originally intended to do using a seagate disk. except my

> > old

> > system will not let me log in to it at all with safe-mode administrator or

> > anything. almost like a virus. and the new system never finished copying.

> > i'd

> > like to use another computer but it turns out that mine is the only one

> > using

> > HDD's in the FAT32 format so sticking the hard drives in another computer

> > wont work unless im wrong about being the only one.

> > --

> > when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

> >

> >

> > "John Barnes" wrote:

> >

> >> Sorry meant to include the link

> >> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html

> >>

> >>

> >> "AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:6051782D-2A46-4A67-916B-A29046DFBA8B@microsoft.com...

> >> > Jane or John,

> >> >

> >> > should i attempt to repair on my transferring drive, old drive or both.

> >> > --

> >> > when my computer fails all hell breaks loose.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Its the one after the license acceptance, not the repair via the

> >> >> console.

> >> >>

> >> >> "AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:00222CDC-70A3-4AF9-B737-5F5D3D6E0B17@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > Up in the above i meant not letting me log in. when i try to boot

> >> >> > from

> >> >> > the

> >> >> > incomplete drive it says "windows could not start because the

> >> >> > following

> >> >> > file

> >> >> > is missing or corrupt:

> >> >> > <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll please reinstall a copy of the

> >> >> > above

> >> >> > file.

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

[Guest AceViper]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

Ok sorry to come back with this problem still but, this is what i've managed

to do...

I tried repairing the original drive and it attempted to repair it but

during the repair it blue screened and now it is stuck their at that spot. It

will always show the blue "windows has been stopped to prevent..." screen. I

need to get into that profile to get my images and other documents off of it.

anytime i try to use my new profile to access my documents on the old hard

drive it says access denied. is their a way to get around it. i just want my

documents back. i can't copy them or anything.

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

You can take ownership of the data and then you can copy. How are you

trying to copy? Are you dual booting and trying to copy from the other

drive, or from the recovery console.

 

"AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Ok sorry to come back with this problem still but, this is what i've

> managed

> to do...

> I tried repairing the original drive and it attempted to repair it but

> during the repair it blue screened and now it is stuck their at that spot.

> It

> will always show the blue "windows has been stopped to prevent..." screen.

> I

> need to get into that profile to get my images and other documents off of

> it.

> anytime i try to use my new profile to access my documents on the old hard

> drive it says access denied. is their a way to get around it. i just want

> my

> documents back. i can't copy them or anything.

[Guest AceViper]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

I am now booting from a different drive. I Don't know how to gain ownership

of my old profile on the other drive.

 

The new boot has just had all drivers, updates, and service pack 2

installed. it's Surprising that the computer has never ran this fast before.

it's so quick on this fresh windows installation.

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

If you are using XP and are a member of the Administrators group 1. Right

click on the file or folder icon ( I would use the highest folder from which

you want to copy) and chose Properties 2. On the security tab, click the

Advanced button (this should open the advanced security settings dialog box)

3. Click the owner tab. This should show the current owner and show you

and the administrator group as potential owners) 4. Select either name and

click OK.

See if that helps you. We can troubleshoot the permissions if necessary.

 

XP X64 is an awesome system.

 

"AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>I am now booting from a different drive. I Don't know how to gain ownership

> of my old profile on the other drive.

>

> The new boot has just had all drivers, updates, and service pack 2

> installed. it's Surprising that the computer has never ran this fast

> before.

> it's so quick on this fresh windows installation.

[Guest AceViper]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

There is no security tab with an advanced button. I am using the regular

windows xp pro. not x64.

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

If you are logged on as an administrator and don't have the security tab,

why don't you post your current problem as a NEW post.

 

"AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> There is no security tab with an advanced button. I am using the regular

> windows xp pro. not x64.

[Guest AceViper]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

I logged in as Administrator in safe mode and then i had the security tab. it

took me awhile to figure out how to actually gain ownership of the data but i

got it all. Thank You very much for you help. I dont know where'd i be

without it. Though my exact problem was not solved i found a way around it.

if i didn't have that spare drive i'd be screwed. loosing my settings don't

mean much to me compared to my data. Thanks man!

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Windows is not letting me log on

 

Glad to hear that you have recovered your data. I have found dual booting

to provide an easier way to correct problems than trying to work blind using

a command line as well as a temporary replacement for work until there is

time to do the repairs.

 

 

"AceViper" <AceViper@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>I logged in as Administrator in safe mode and then i had the security tab.

>it

> took me awhile to figure out how to actually gain ownership of the data

> but i

> got it all. Thank You very much for you help. I dont know where'd i be

> without it. Though my exact problem was not solved i found a way around

> it.

> if i didn't have that spare drive i'd be screwed. loosing my settings

> don't

> mean much to me compared to my data. Thanks man!