Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

[Guest Rick]

I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have purchased

th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running most of

my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is there

any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any remedy to

this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go out

and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit version...agian,

will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the disk, and

start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

perspective of cost and time.

 

Rick

[Guest Theo]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

the current installation and do a new installation of the

32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

 

 

Rick wrote:

> I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have purchased

> th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running most of

> my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is there

> any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any remedy to

> this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go out

> and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit version...agian,

> will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the disk, and

> start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

> perspective of cost and time.

>

> Rick

[Guest Rick]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all with

Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I rebuilt

a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just figured

it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed. Vista,

however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I slaved,

multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and try XP

on the new SATA drive.

 

"Theo" wrote:

> The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

> is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

> to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

> the current installation and do a new installation of the

> 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

> different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

> path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

>

>

> Rick wrote:

> > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have purchased

> > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running most of

> > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is there

> > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any remedy to

> > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go out

> > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit version...agian,

> > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the disk, and

> > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

> > perspective of cost and time.

> >

> > Rick

>

[Guest Carlos]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Rick:

You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista x64,

installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic apps there.

That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

What apps are you giving problems?

Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

There might be workarounds for your problems.

Carlos

 

"Rick" wrote:

> Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all with

> Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I rebuilt

> a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just figured

> it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed. Vista,

> however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I slaved,

> multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and try XP

> on the new SATA drive.

>

> "Theo" wrote:

>

> > The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

> > is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

> > to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

> > the current installation and do a new installation of the

> > 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

> > different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

> > path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

> >

> >

> > Rick wrote:

> > > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have purchased

> > > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running most of

> > > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is there

> > > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any remedy to

> > > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go out

> > > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit version...agian,

> > > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the disk, and

> > > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

> > > perspective of cost and time.

> > >

> > > Rick

> >

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Most programs will not run from an old drive, whether XP or Vista. Most

must be installed on the system they are going to run on. Most programs

that will run on Vista 32 will also run on Vista 64, so make sure the

programs are Vista compatible. Also, some of the newer motherboards do not

have drivers for XP, so make sure they are available before you make the

change.

 

"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:23DDC6CC-AA7E-42C0-BC83-32A447F94AE0@microsoft.com...

> Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all

> with

> Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I

> rebuilt

> a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just

> figured

> it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed.

> Vista,

> however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I slaved,

> multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and try

> XP

> on the new SATA drive.

>

> "Theo" wrote:

>

>> The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

>> is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

>> to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

>> the current installation and do a new installation of the

>> 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

>> different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

>> path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

>>

>>

>> Rick wrote:

>> > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have

>> > purchased

>> > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running

>> > most of

>> > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is

>> > there

>> > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any

>> > remedy to

>> > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go

>> > out

>> > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit

>> > version...agian,

>> > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the

>> > disk, and

>> > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

>> > perspective of cost and time.

>> >

>> > Rick

>>

[Guest Carlos]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Oops!

Sorry for my poor English.

I should have written:

"What apps are you having problems with?"

or

"What apps are giving you problems"

And John's comments are in the right direction.

Apps need being reinstalled in the OS.

I had skipped that detail also (not a good day for my lazy braincells!)

:)

Carlos

 

"Carlos" wrote:

> Rick:

> You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista x64,

> installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic apps there.

> That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

> What apps are you giving problems?

> Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

> There might be workarounds for your problems.

> Carlos

>

> "Rick" wrote:

>

> > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all with

> > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I rebuilt

> > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just figured

> > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed. Vista,

> > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I slaved,

> > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and try XP

> > on the new SATA drive.

> >

> > "Theo" wrote:

> >

> > > The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

> > > is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

> > > to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

> > > the current installation and do a new installation of the

> > > 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

> > > different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

> > > path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

> > >

> > >

> > > Rick wrote:

> > > > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have purchased

> > > > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running most of

> > > > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is there

> > > > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any remedy to

> > > > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go out

> > > > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit version...agian,

> > > > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the disk, and

> > > > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

> > > > perspective of cost and time.

> > > >

> > > > Rick

> > >

[Guest Rick]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Carlos:

Unfortunately, when I build the new computer, I did it for the sole

purpose of downloading videos from my new Sony HD digital camcorder I bought,

and it worked on the old system, but was taking upto 8 hours to master a

video. So, I did not check to see if it was Vista 64 bit compatible when I

bought it. After discovering I could download pictures but not the videos, I

then checked the Sony website and wrote to them, and unfortunately their

software, which is the one I need, runs on Vista 32 bit but not 64. So, it

looks like I will have to buy another version of Vista, the 32 bit, reformat

the HD, and reinstall everyting all over again. Wish I had done just a

little more research.

 

"Carlos" wrote:

> Rick:

> You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista x64,

> installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic apps there.

> That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

> What apps are you giving problems?

> Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

> There might be workarounds for your problems.

> Carlos

>

> "Rick" wrote:

>

> > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all with

> > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I rebuilt

> > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just figured

> > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed. Vista,

> > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I slaved,

> > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and try XP

> > on the new SATA drive.

> >

> > "Theo" wrote:

> >

> > > The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

> > > is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

> > > to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

> > > the current installation and do a new installation of the

> > > 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

> > > different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

> > > path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

> > >

> > >

> > > Rick wrote:

> > > > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have purchased

> > > > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running most of

> > > > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is there

> > > > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any remedy to

> > > > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go out

> > > > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit version...agian,

> > > > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the disk, and

> > > > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

> > > > perspective of cost and time.

> > > >

> > > > Rick

> > >

[Guest Carlos]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Rick:

Are you using Firewire (IEEE1394) for downloading videos from your camcorder

to your PC?

That is the connection I use to do it with my old JVC DV camera in Vista x64.

I use neither USB nor audio/video.

Just Firewire, no JVC software.

When I plug the camera I have a pop-up menu with Windows Movie Maker

offering me to make a movie and also NeroVision saying something similar.

Carlos

 

"Rick" wrote:

> Carlos:

> Unfortunately, when I build the new computer, I did it for the sole

> purpose of downloading videos from my new Sony HD digital camcorder I bought,

> and it worked on the old system, but was taking upto 8 hours to master a

> video. So, I did not check to see if it was Vista 64 bit compatible when I

> bought it. After discovering I could download pictures but not the videos, I

> then checked the Sony website and wrote to them, and unfortunately their

> software, which is the one I need, runs on Vista 32 bit but not 64. So, it

> looks like I will have to buy another version of Vista, the 32 bit, reformat

> the HD, and reinstall everyting all over again. Wish I had done just a

> little more research.

>

> "Carlos" wrote:

>

> > Rick:

> > You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista x64,

> > installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic apps there.

> > That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

> > What apps are you giving problems?

> > Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

> > There might be workarounds for your problems.

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Rick" wrote:

> >

> > > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all with

> > > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I rebuilt

> > > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just figured

> > > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed. Vista,

> > > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I slaved,

> > > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and try XP

> > > on the new SATA drive.

> > >

> > > "Theo" wrote:

> > >

> > > > The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

> > > > is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

> > > > to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

> > > > the current installation and do a new installation of the

> > > > 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

> > > > different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

> > > > path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rick wrote:

> > > > > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have purchased

> > > > > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running most of

> > > > > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is there

> > > > > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any remedy to

> > > > > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go out

> > > > > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit version...agian,

> > > > > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the disk, and

> > > > > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

> > > > > perspective of cost and time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rick

> > > >

[Guest Rick]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Carlos:

I am using the USB connection. I am not sure if the camera came with an

adapter for Firewire. I was hoping that Vista would have a program that

would download it, but did not try your suggestion. I will do that. It

would be nice, but the only problem I still may encounter is Sonyuses a

different format for their HD videos, ACHDV or something like that, that

needs to be converted to be mastered in Adobe, and of course, that conversion

program is in the software program that I cannot get to run while I have

Vista 64 bit, it only runs in 32 bit. I will give it a shot when I get home,

though, it's worth a try. Very discouraging knowing that I probably will

have to reformat everything, but a new Vista program, and start over.

 

Rick

"Carlos" wrote:

> Rick:

> Are you using Firewire (IEEE1394) for downloading videos from your camcorder

> to your PC?

> That is the connection I use to do it with my old JVC DV camera in Vista x64.

> I use neither USB nor audio/video.

> Just Firewire, no JVC software.

> When I plug the camera I have a pop-up menu with Windows Movie Maker

> offering me to make a movie and also NeroVision saying something similar.

> Carlos

>

> "Rick" wrote:

>

> > Carlos:

> > Unfortunately, when I build the new computer, I did it for the sole

> > purpose of downloading videos from my new Sony HD digital camcorder I bought,

> > and it worked on the old system, but was taking upto 8 hours to master a

> > video. So, I did not check to see if it was Vista 64 bit compatible when I

> > bought it. After discovering I could download pictures but not the videos, I

> > then checked the Sony website and wrote to them, and unfortunately their

> > software, which is the one I need, runs on Vista 32 bit but not 64. So, it

> > looks like I will have to buy another version of Vista, the 32 bit, reformat

> > the HD, and reinstall everyting all over again. Wish I had done just a

> > little more research.

> >

> > "Carlos" wrote:

> >

> > > Rick:

> > > You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista x64,

> > > installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic apps there.

> > > That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

> > > What apps are you giving problems?

> > > Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

> > > There might be workarounds for your problems.

> > > Carlos

> > >

> > > "Rick" wrote:

> > >

> > > > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all with

> > > > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I rebuilt

> > > > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just figured

> > > > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed. Vista,

> > > > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I slaved,

> > > > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and try XP

> > > > on the new SATA drive.

> > > >

> > > > "Theo" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

> > > > > is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

> > > > > to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

> > > > > the current installation and do a new installation of the

> > > > > 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

> > > > > different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

> > > > > path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Rick wrote:

> > > > > > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have purchased

> > > > > > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running most of

> > > > > > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is there

> > > > > > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any remedy to

> > > > > > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go out

> > > > > > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit version...agian,

> > > > > > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the disk, and

> > > > > > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

> > > > > > perspective of cost and time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rick

> > > > >

[Guest Carlos]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Rick:

The key point here would be to know the exact name (or acronym) the Sony

propietary HD encoding format.

If we find a suitable decoder then you would not need Sony's proggie for the

intermediate conversion (my best guess) and might use another one, compatible

with Vista x64.

Please take a look at the camera manual and see if it says something about

the video format.

Carlos

 

"Rick" wrote:

> Carlos:

> I am using the USB connection. I am not sure if the camera came with an

> adapter for Firewire. I was hoping that Vista would have a program that

> would download it, but did not try your suggestion. I will do that. It

> would be nice, but the only problem I still may encounter is Sonyuses a

> different format for their HD videos, ACHDV or something like that, that

> needs to be converted to be mastered in Adobe, and of course, that conversion

> program is in the software program that I cannot get to run while I have

> Vista 64 bit, it only runs in 32 bit. I will give it a shot when I get home,

> though, it's worth a try. Very discouraging knowing that I probably will

> have to reformat everything, but a new Vista program, and start over.

>

> Rick

> "Carlos" wrote:

>

> > Rick:

> > Are you using Firewire (IEEE1394) for downloading videos from your camcorder

> > to your PC?

> > That is the connection I use to do it with my old JVC DV camera in Vista x64.

> > I use neither USB nor audio/video.

> > Just Firewire, no JVC software.

> > When I plug the camera I have a pop-up menu with Windows Movie Maker

> > offering me to make a movie and also NeroVision saying something similar.

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Rick" wrote:

> >

> > > Carlos:

> > > Unfortunately, when I build the new computer, I did it for the sole

> > > purpose of downloading videos from my new Sony HD digital camcorder I bought,

> > > and it worked on the old system, but was taking upto 8 hours to master a

> > > video. So, I did not check to see if it was Vista 64 bit compatible when I

> > > bought it. After discovering I could download pictures but not the videos, I

> > > then checked the Sony website and wrote to them, and unfortunately their

> > > software, which is the one I need, runs on Vista 32 bit but not 64. So, it

> > > looks like I will have to buy another version of Vista, the 32 bit, reformat

> > > the HD, and reinstall everyting all over again. Wish I had done just a

> > > little more research.

> > >

> > > "Carlos" wrote:

> > >

> > > > Rick:

> > > > You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista x64,

> > > > installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic apps there.

> > > > That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

> > > > What apps are you giving problems?

> > > > Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

> > > > There might be workarounds for your problems.

> > > > Carlos

> > > >

> > > > "Rick" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all with

> > > > > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I rebuilt

> > > > > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just figured

> > > > > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed. Vista,

> > > > > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I slaved,

> > > > > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and try XP

> > > > > on the new SATA drive.

> > > > >

> > > > > "Theo" wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

> > > > > > is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

> > > > > > to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

> > > > > > the current installation and do a new installation of the

> > > > > > 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

> > > > > > different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

> > > > > > path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rick wrote:

> > > > > > > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have purchased

> > > > > > > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running most of

> > > > > > > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is there

> > > > > > > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any remedy to

> > > > > > > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go out

> > > > > > > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit version...agian,

> > > > > > > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the disk, and

> > > > > > > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

> > > > > > > perspective of cost and time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rick

> > > > > >

[Guest Carlos]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Rick:

Good news.

I've been doing some research on the web.

I learnt here

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/HDR-UX1-and-HDR-SR1---Sony-Unveils-AVCHD-Camcorders.htm

the necessary data for understanding this new AVCHD (that's the right

acronym) format launched early 2006.

The good news is that Nero Vision 4, a part of Nero Burning ROM 7 package,

has the possibility of capturing video in that format (and I presume convert

it to something else).

Here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Video_Codec_High_Definition

you will find more info about this format and decoder programs.

I don't have any video in that format so I cannot be sure about what I am

going to say now but maybe the freeware ffdshow decoder might decode this

format.

You will find a 32-bit version here:

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/FFDShow.htm

and a 64-bit version here:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=214245&release_id=523000

Both versions can be installed and coexist peacefully in Vista x64 (I have

them that way).

64-bit programs (like Windows Movie Maker or Windows DVD Maker) will use the

64-bit decoder.

32-bit programs (like the default Windows Media Player) will use the 32-bit

decoder.

Best of luck!

Carlos

 

"Rick" wrote:

> Carlos:

> I am using the USB connection. I am not sure if the camera came with an

> adapter for Firewire. I was hoping that Vista would have a program that

> would download it, but did not try your suggestion. I will do that. It

> would be nice, but the only problem I still may encounter is Sonyuses a

> different format for their HD videos, ACHDV or something like that, that

> needs to be converted to be mastered in Adobe, and of course, that conversion

> program is in the software program that I cannot get to run while I have

> Vista 64 bit, it only runs in 32 bit. I will give it a shot when I get home,

> though, it's worth a try. Very discouraging knowing that I probably will

> have to reformat everything, but a new Vista program, and start over.

>

> Rick

> "Carlos" wrote:

>

> > Rick:

> > Are you using Firewire (IEEE1394) for downloading videos from your camcorder

> > to your PC?

> > That is the connection I use to do it with my old JVC DV camera in Vista x64.

> > I use neither USB nor audio/video.

> > Just Firewire, no JVC software.

> > When I plug the camera I have a pop-up menu with Windows Movie Maker

> > offering me to make a movie and also NeroVision saying something similar.

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Rick" wrote:

> >

> > > Carlos:

> > > Unfortunately, when I build the new computer, I did it for the sole

> > > purpose of downloading videos from my new Sony HD digital camcorder I bought,

> > > and it worked on the old system, but was taking upto 8 hours to master a

> > > video. So, I did not check to see if it was Vista 64 bit compatible when I

> > > bought it. After discovering I could download pictures but not the videos, I

> > > then checked the Sony website and wrote to them, and unfortunately their

> > > software, which is the one I need, runs on Vista 32 bit but not 64. So, it

> > > looks like I will have to buy another version of Vista, the 32 bit, reformat

> > > the HD, and reinstall everyting all over again. Wish I had done just a

> > > little more research.

> > >

> > > "Carlos" wrote:

> > >

> > > > Rick:

> > > > You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista x64,

> > > > installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic apps there.

> > > > That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

> > > > What apps are you giving problems?

> > > > Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

> > > > There might be workarounds for your problems.

> > > > Carlos

> > > >

> > > > "Rick" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all with

> > > > > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I rebuilt

> > > > > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just figured

> > > > > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed. Vista,

> > > > > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I slaved,

> > > > > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and try XP

> > > > > on the new SATA drive.

> > > > >

> > > > > "Theo" wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

> > > > > > is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

> > > > > > to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

> > > > > > the current installation and do a new installation of the

> > > > > > 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

> > > > > > different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

> > > > > > path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rick wrote:

> > > > > > > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have purchased

> > > > > > > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running most of

> > > > > > > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is there

> > > > > > > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any remedy to

> > > > > > > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go out

> > > > > > > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit version...agian,

> > > > > > > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the disk, and

> > > > > > > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

> > > > > > > perspective of cost and time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rick

> > > > > >

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Before making drastic decisions, Rick, you might tell us what version of

Vista you have installed? If it's 'Ultimate' you can legally remove the

64bit installation and exchange it for a 32bit with the same product key, if

I'm not mistaken. You should have both right there on the installation

media.

 

Otherwise, you can forget this and put confidence in what these good people

have been telling you. I too think there are many good reasons to hang on to

the 64bit one, as long as everything is behaving.

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:907C7C2A-7435-4D61-B01A-59ADD252F395@microsoft.com...

> Carlos:

> I am using the USB connection. I am not sure if the camera came with an

> adapter for Firewire. I was hoping that Vista would have a program that

> would download it, but did not try your suggestion. I will do that. It

> would be nice, but the only problem I still may encounter is Sonyuses a

> different format for their HD videos, ACHDV or something like that, that

> needs to be converted to be mastered in Adobe, and of course, that

> conversion

> program is in the software program that I cannot get to run while I have

> Vista 64 bit, it only runs in 32 bit. I will give it a shot when I get

> home,

> though, it's worth a try. Very discouraging knowing that I probably will

> have to reformat everything, but a new Vista program, and start over.

>

> Rick

> "Carlos" wrote:

>

>> Rick:

>> Are you using Firewire (IEEE1394) for downloading videos from your

>> camcorder

>> to your PC?

>> That is the connection I use to do it with my old JVC DV camera in Vista

>> x64.

>> I use neither USB nor audio/video.

>> Just Firewire, no JVC software.

>> When I plug the camera I have a pop-up menu with Windows Movie Maker

>> offering me to make a movie and also NeroVision saying something similar.

>> Carlos

>>

>> "Rick" wrote:

>>

>> > Carlos:

>> > Unfortunately, when I build the new computer, I did it for the sole

>> > purpose of downloading videos from my new Sony HD digital camcorder I

>> > bought,

>> > and it worked on the old system, but was taking upto 8 hours to master

>> > a

>> > video. So, I did not check to see if it was Vista 64 bit compatible

>> > when I

>> > bought it. After discovering I could download pictures but not the

>> > videos, I

>> > then checked the Sony website and wrote to them, and unfortunately

>> > their

>> > software, which is the one I need, runs on Vista 32 bit but not 64.

>> > So, it

>> > looks like I will have to buy another version of Vista, the 32 bit,

>> > reformat

>> > the HD, and reinstall everyting all over again. Wish I had done just a

>> > little more research.

>> >

>> > "Carlos" wrote:

>> >

>> > > Rick:

>> > > You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista

>> > > x64,

>> > > installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic apps

>> > > there.

>> > > That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

>> > > What apps are you giving problems?

>> > > Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

>> > > There might be workarounds for your problems.

>> > > Carlos

>> > >

>> > > "Rick" wrote:

>> > >

>> > > > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at

>> > > > all with

>> > > > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so

>> > > > I rebuilt

>> > > > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and

>> > > > just figured

>> > > > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be

>> > > > needed. Vista,

>> > > > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I

>> > > > slaved,

>> > > > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it

>> > > > and try XP

>> > > > on the new SATA drive.

>> > > >

>> > > > "Theo" wrote:

>> > > >

>> > > > > The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

>> > > > > is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

>> > > > > to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

>> > > > > the current installation and do a new installation of the

>> > > > > 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

>> > > > > different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

>> > > > > path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Rick wrote:

>> > > > > > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should

>> > > > > > have purchased

>> > > > > > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously)

>> > > > > > running most of

>> > > > > > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit

>> > > > > > version. Is there

>> > > > > > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there

>> > > > > > any remedy to

>> > > > > > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would

>> > > > > > have to go out

>> > > > > > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit

>> > > > > > version...agian,

>> > > > > > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat

>> > > > > > the disk, and

>> > > > > > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both

>> > > > > > from the

>> > > > > > perspective of cost and time.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Rick

>> > > > >

[Guest Rick]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Tony:

I have Vista Ultimate. That would be great if I could remove the 64 bit,

and install the 32 bit. Now where to go from here?

 

"Tony Sperling mail.dk>" wrote:

> Before making drastic decisions, Rick, you might tell us what version of

> Vista you have installed? If it's 'Ultimate' you can legally remove the

> 64bit installation and exchange it for a 32bit with the same product key, if

> I'm not mistaken. You should have both right there on the installation

> media.

>

> Otherwise, you can forget this and put confidence in what these good people

> have been telling you. I too think there are many good reasons to hang on to

> the 64bit one, as long as everything is behaving.

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

> "Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:907C7C2A-7435-4D61-B01A-59ADD252F395@microsoft.com...

> > Carlos:

> > I am using the USB connection. I am not sure if the camera came with an

> > adapter for Firewire. I was hoping that Vista would have a program that

> > would download it, but did not try your suggestion. I will do that. It

> > would be nice, but the only problem I still may encounter is Sonyuses a

> > different format for their HD videos, ACHDV or something like that, that

> > needs to be converted to be mastered in Adobe, and of course, that

> > conversion

> > program is in the software program that I cannot get to run while I have

> > Vista 64 bit, it only runs in 32 bit. I will give it a shot when I get

> > home,

> > though, it's worth a try. Very discouraging knowing that I probably will

> > have to reformat everything, but a new Vista program, and start over.

> >

> > Rick

> > "Carlos" wrote:

> >

> >> Rick:

> >> Are you using Firewire (IEEE1394) for downloading videos from your

> >> camcorder

> >> to your PC?

> >> That is the connection I use to do it with my old JVC DV camera in Vista

> >> x64.

> >> I use neither USB nor audio/video.

> >> Just Firewire, no JVC software.

> >> When I plug the camera I have a pop-up menu with Windows Movie Maker

> >> offering me to make a movie and also NeroVision saying something similar.

> >> Carlos

> >>

> >> "Rick" wrote:

> >>

> >> > Carlos:

> >> > Unfortunately, when I build the new computer, I did it for the sole

> >> > purpose of downloading videos from my new Sony HD digital camcorder I

> >> > bought,

> >> > and it worked on the old system, but was taking upto 8 hours to master

> >> > a

> >> > video. So, I did not check to see if it was Vista 64 bit compatible

> >> > when I

> >> > bought it. After discovering I could download pictures but not the

> >> > videos, I

> >> > then checked the Sony website and wrote to them, and unfortunately

> >> > their

> >> > software, which is the one I need, runs on Vista 32 bit but not 64.

> >> > So, it

> >> > looks like I will have to buy another version of Vista, the 32 bit,

> >> > reformat

> >> > the HD, and reinstall everyting all over again. Wish I had done just a

> >> > little more research.

> >> >

> >> > "Carlos" wrote:

> >> >

> >> > > Rick:

> >> > > You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista

> >> > > x64,

> >> > > installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic apps

> >> > > there.

> >> > > That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

> >> > > What apps are you giving problems?

> >> > > Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

> >> > > There might be workarounds for your problems.

> >> > > Carlos

> >> > >

> >> > > "Rick" wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at

> >> > > > all with

> >> > > > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so

> >> > > > I rebuilt

> >> > > > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and

> >> > > > just figured

> >> > > > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be

> >> > > > needed. Vista,

> >> > > > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I

> >> > > > slaved,

> >> > > > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it

> >> > > > and try XP

> >> > > > on the new SATA drive.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > "Theo" wrote:

> >> > > >

> >> > > > > The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

> >> > > > > is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

> >> > > > > to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

> >> > > > > the current installation and do a new installation of the

> >> > > > > 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

> >> > > > > different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

> >> > > > > path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Rick wrote:

> >> > > > > > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should

> >> > > > > > have purchased

> >> > > > > > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously)

> >> > > > > > running most of

> >> > > > > > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit

> >> > > > > > version. Is there

> >> > > > > > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there

> >> > > > > > any remedy to

> >> > > > > > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would

> >> > > > > > have to go out

> >> > > > > > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit

> >> > > > > > version...agian,

> >> > > > > > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat

> >> > > > > > the disk, and

> >> > > > > > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both

> >> > > > > > from the

> >> > > > > > perspective of cost and time.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Rick

> >> > > > >

>

>

>

[Guest Rick]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Carlos:

You really are a great help, thank you. I have the HDR-SR5 Sony, and

after reading your notes and exploring the web sites you enclosed, I wonder

if Adobe has a patch for the AVCHD format, right now they do not support it.

That would be by far the easier thing to do, as I just download the clips

with the Sony software. After I clicked on the hyperlink for the 64 bit

version from the two web sites you sent me, it looks like the 64 bit version

supports AMD64 architechture, and I am running an Intel Quad Core, so I am

wondering if it possibly might not work with my chip. Time to do a little

research. Thank you again, more ideas are always great.

 

Rick

 

"Carlos" wrote:

> Rick:

> Good news.

> I've been doing some research on the web.

> I learnt here

> http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/HDR-UX1-and-HDR-SR1---Sony-Unveils-AVCHD-Camcorders.htm

> the necessary data for understanding this new AVCHD (that's the right

> acronym) format launched early 2006.

> The good news is that Nero Vision 4, a part of Nero Burning ROM 7 package,

> has the possibility of capturing video in that format (and I presume convert

> it to something else).

> Here

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Video_Codec_High_Definition

> you will find more info about this format and decoder programs.

> I don't have any video in that format so I cannot be sure about what I am

> going to say now but maybe the freeware ffdshow decoder might decode this

> format.

> You will find a 32-bit version here:

> http://www.free-codecs.com/download/FFDShow.htm

> and a 64-bit version here:

> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=214245&release_id=523000

> Both versions can be installed and coexist peacefully in Vista x64 (I have

> them that way).

> 64-bit programs (like Windows Movie Maker or Windows DVD Maker) will use the

> 64-bit decoder.

> 32-bit programs (like the default Windows Media Player) will use the 32-bit

> decoder.

> Best of luck!

> Carlos

>

> "Rick" wrote:

>

> > Carlos:

> > I am using the USB connection. I am not sure if the camera came with an

> > adapter for Firewire. I was hoping that Vista would have a program that

> > would download it, but did not try your suggestion. I will do that. It

> > would be nice, but the only problem I still may encounter is Sonyuses a

> > different format for their HD videos, ACHDV or something like that, that

> > needs to be converted to be mastered in Adobe, and of course, that conversion

> > program is in the software program that I cannot get to run while I have

> > Vista 64 bit, it only runs in 32 bit. I will give it a shot when I get home,

> > though, it's worth a try. Very discouraging knowing that I probably will

> > have to reformat everything, but a new Vista program, and start over.

> >

> > Rick

> > "Carlos" wrote:

> >

> > > Rick:

> > > Are you using Firewire (IEEE1394) for downloading videos from your camcorder

> > > to your PC?

> > > That is the connection I use to do it with my old JVC DV camera in Vista x64.

> > > I use neither USB nor audio/video.

> > > Just Firewire, no JVC software.

> > > When I plug the camera I have a pop-up menu with Windows Movie Maker

> > > offering me to make a movie and also NeroVision saying something similar.

> > > Carlos

> > >

> > > "Rick" wrote:

> > >

> > > > Carlos:

> > > > Unfortunately, when I build the new computer, I did it for the sole

> > > > purpose of downloading videos from my new Sony HD digital camcorder I bought,

> > > > and it worked on the old system, but was taking upto 8 hours to master a

> > > > video. So, I did not check to see if it was Vista 64 bit compatible when I

> > > > bought it. After discovering I could download pictures but not the videos, I

> > > > then checked the Sony website and wrote to them, and unfortunately their

> > > > software, which is the one I need, runs on Vista 32 bit but not 64. So, it

> > > > looks like I will have to buy another version of Vista, the 32 bit, reformat

> > > > the HD, and reinstall everyting all over again. Wish I had done just a

> > > > little more research.

> > > >

> > > > "Carlos" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Rick:

> > > > > You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista x64,

> > > > > installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic apps there.

> > > > > That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

> > > > > What apps are you giving problems?

> > > > > Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

> > > > > There might be workarounds for your problems.

> > > > > Carlos

> > > > >

> > > > > "Rick" wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all with

> > > > > > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I rebuilt

> > > > > > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just figured

> > > > > > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed. Vista,

> > > > > > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I slaved,

> > > > > > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and try XP

> > > > > > on the new SATA drive.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Theo" wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

> > > > > > > is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

> > > > > > > to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

> > > > > > > the current installation and do a new installation of the

> > > > > > > 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

> > > > > > > different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

> > > > > > > path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rick wrote:

> > > > > > > > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have purchased

> > > > > > > > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running most of

> > > > > > > > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is there

> > > > > > > > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any remedy to

> > > > > > > > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go out

> > > > > > > > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit version...agian,

> > > > > > > > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the disk, and

> > > > > > > > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

> > > > > > > > perspective of cost and time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rick

> > > > > > >

[Guest Carlos]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Rick:

I know close to nothing about those Quad Core Intels but I guess they run

the same extended 64-bit instruction set as the AMD's, otherwise you would

not be able to be running Vista x64 on it!

Install both ffdshow decoders (32-bit and 64-bit).

That might help your Adobe software to recognize the Sony format.

Just a hunch.

Carlos

 

"Rick" wrote:

> Carlos:

> You really are a great help, thank you. I have the HDR-SR5 Sony, and

> after reading your notes and exploring the web sites you enclosed, I wonder

> if Adobe has a patch for the AVCHD format, right now they do not support it.

> That would be by far the easier thing to do, as I just download the clips

> with the Sony software. After I clicked on the hyperlink for the 64 bit

> version from the two web sites you sent me, it looks like the 64 bit version

> supports AMD64 architechture, and I am running an Intel Quad Core, so I am

> wondering if it possibly might not work with my chip. Time to do a little

> research. Thank you again, more ideas are always great.

>

> Rick

>

> "Carlos" wrote:

>

> > Rick:

> > Good news.

> > I've been doing some research on the web.

> > I learnt here

> > http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/HDR-UX1-and-HDR-SR1---Sony-Unveils-AVCHD-Camcorders.htm

> > the necessary data for understanding this new AVCHD (that's the right

> > acronym) format launched early 2006.

> > The good news is that Nero Vision 4, a part of Nero Burning ROM 7 package,

> > has the possibility of capturing video in that format (and I presume convert

> > it to something else).

> > Here

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Video_Codec_High_Definition

> > you will find more info about this format and decoder programs.

> > I don't have any video in that format so I cannot be sure about what I am

> > going to say now but maybe the freeware ffdshow decoder might decode this

> > format.

> > You will find a 32-bit version here:

> > http://www.free-codecs.com/download/FFDShow.htm

> > and a 64-bit version here:

> > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=214245&release_id=523000

> > Both versions can be installed and coexist peacefully in Vista x64 (I have

> > them that way).

> > 64-bit programs (like Windows Movie Maker or Windows DVD Maker) will use the

> > 64-bit decoder.

> > 32-bit programs (like the default Windows Media Player) will use the 32-bit

> > decoder.

> > Best of luck!

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Rick" wrote:

> >

> > > Carlos:

> > > I am using the USB connection. I am not sure if the camera came with an

> > > adapter for Firewire. I was hoping that Vista would have a program that

> > > would download it, but did not try your suggestion. I will do that. It

> > > would be nice, but the only problem I still may encounter is Sonyuses a

> > > different format for their HD videos, ACHDV or something like that, that

> > > needs to be converted to be mastered in Adobe, and of course, that conversion

> > > program is in the software program that I cannot get to run while I have

> > > Vista 64 bit, it only runs in 32 bit. I will give it a shot when I get home,

> > > though, it's worth a try. Very discouraging knowing that I probably will

> > > have to reformat everything, but a new Vista program, and start over.

> > >

> > > Rick

> > > "Carlos" wrote:

> > >

> > > > Rick:

> > > > Are you using Firewire (IEEE1394) for downloading videos from your camcorder

> > > > to your PC?

> > > > That is the connection I use to do it with my old JVC DV camera in Vista x64.

> > > > I use neither USB nor audio/video.

> > > > Just Firewire, no JVC software.

> > > > When I plug the camera I have a pop-up menu with Windows Movie Maker

> > > > offering me to make a movie and also NeroVision saying something similar.

> > > > Carlos

> > > >

> > > > "Rick" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Carlos:

> > > > > Unfortunately, when I build the new computer, I did it for the sole

> > > > > purpose of downloading videos from my new Sony HD digital camcorder I bought,

> > > > > and it worked on the old system, but was taking upto 8 hours to master a

> > > > > video. So, I did not check to see if it was Vista 64 bit compatible when I

> > > > > bought it. After discovering I could download pictures but not the videos, I

> > > > > then checked the Sony website and wrote to them, and unfortunately their

> > > > > software, which is the one I need, runs on Vista 32 bit but not 64. So, it

> > > > > looks like I will have to buy another version of Vista, the 32 bit, reformat

> > > > > the HD, and reinstall everyting all over again. Wish I had done just a

> > > > > little more research.

> > > > >

> > > > > "Carlos" wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Rick:

> > > > > > You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista x64,

> > > > > > installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic apps there.

> > > > > > That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

> > > > > > What apps are you giving problems?

> > > > > > Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

> > > > > > There might be workarounds for your problems.

> > > > > > Carlos

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "Rick" wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all with

> > > > > > > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I rebuilt

> > > > > > > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just figured

> > > > > > > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed. Vista,

> > > > > > > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I slaved,

> > > > > > > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and try XP

> > > > > > > on the new SATA drive.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "Theo" wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

> > > > > > > > is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

> > > > > > > > to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

> > > > > > > > the current installation and do a new installation of the

> > > > > > > > 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

> > > > > > > > different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

> > > > > > > > path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rick wrote:

> > > > > > > > > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have purchased

> > > > > > > > > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running most of

> > > > > > > > > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is there

> > > > > > > > > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any remedy to

> > > > > > > > > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go out

> > > > > > > > > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit version...agian,

> > > > > > > > > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the disk, and

> > > > > > > > > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

> > > > > > > > > perspective of cost and time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rick

> > > > > > > >

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

I am not on Vista myself so better hang on and get the salient parts from

the other's. I cannot remember the If's, And's or But's of the Licences

involved. Ordinarily, I would say back up your data - re-boot the DVD,

repartition and install the HD with the 32bit version using the same

product key.

 

If you do it this way, and considering the amount of data you'll be having -

I would suggest installing to a fairly limited System Partition and create a

more substantial separate PRIMARY partition for your data - it will ease

backing up and you'll have more freedom to experiment with salvage

operations (including re-creating the system partition) if the OS ever goes

down south - all without risking your data.

 

It will not save you from ordinary fits of 'idiocy', normal care is in

order. But I think you will probably sleep sounder after a while.

 

Having said that, I still think you should investigate keeping it all as it

is, if you can get those codecs to work as Carlos have been investigating.

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

"Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:0287D136-F0BD-4224-870D-815D23B5A902@microsoft.com...

> Tony:

> I have Vista Ultimate. That would be great if I could remove the 64

> bit,

> and install the 32 bit. Now where to go from here?

>

> "Tony Sperling mail.dk>" wrote:

>

>> Before making drastic decisions, Rick, you might tell us what version of

>> Vista you have installed? If it's 'Ultimate' you can legally remove the

>> 64bit installation and exchange it for a 32bit with the same product key,

>> if

>> I'm not mistaken. You should have both right there on the installation

>> media.

>>

>> Otherwise, you can forget this and put confidence in what these good

>> people

>> have been telling you. I too think there are many good reasons to hang on

>> to

>> the 64bit one, as long as everything is behaving.

>>

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>>

>>

>> "Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:907C7C2A-7435-4D61-B01A-59ADD252F395@microsoft.com...

>> > Carlos:

>> > I am using the USB connection. I am not sure if the camera came with

>> > an

>> > adapter for Firewire. I was hoping that Vista would have a program

>> > that

>> > would download it, but did not try your suggestion. I will do that.

>> > It

>> > would be nice, but the only problem I still may encounter is Sonyuses a

>> > different format for their HD videos, ACHDV or something like that,

>> > that

>> > needs to be converted to be mastered in Adobe, and of course, that

>> > conversion

>> > program is in the software program that I cannot get to run while I

>> > have

>> > Vista 64 bit, it only runs in 32 bit. I will give it a shot when I get

>> > home,

>> > though, it's worth a try. Very discouraging knowing that I probably

>> > will

>> > have to reformat everything, but a new Vista program, and start over.

>> >

>> > Rick

>> > "Carlos" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Rick:

>> >> Are you using Firewire (IEEE1394) for downloading videos from your

>> >> camcorder

>> >> to your PC?

>> >> That is the connection I use to do it with my old JVC DV camera in

>> >> Vista

>> >> x64.

>> >> I use neither USB nor audio/video.

>> >> Just Firewire, no JVC software.

>> >> When I plug the camera I have a pop-up menu with Windows Movie Maker

>> >> offering me to make a movie and also NeroVision saying something

>> >> similar.

>> >> Carlos

>> >>

>> >> "Rick" wrote:

>> >>

>> >> > Carlos:

>> >> > Unfortunately, when I build the new computer, I did it for the

>> >> > sole

>> >> > purpose of downloading videos from my new Sony HD digital camcorder

>> >> > I

>> >> > bought,

>> >> > and it worked on the old system, but was taking upto 8 hours to

>> >> > master

>> >> > a

>> >> > video. So, I did not check to see if it was Vista 64 bit compatible

>> >> > when I

>> >> > bought it. After discovering I could download pictures but not the

>> >> > videos, I

>> >> > then checked the Sony website and wrote to them, and unfortunately

>> >> > their

>> >> > software, which is the one I need, runs on Vista 32 bit but not 64.

>> >> > So, it

>> >> > looks like I will have to buy another version of Vista, the 32 bit,

>> >> > reformat

>> >> > the HD, and reinstall everyting all over again. Wish I had done

>> >> > just a

>> >> > little more research.

>> >> >

>> >> > "Carlos" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> > > Rick:

>> >> > > You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista

>> >> > > x64,

>> >> > > installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic

>> >> > > apps

>> >> > > there.

>> >> > > That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

>> >> > > What apps are you giving problems?

>> >> > > Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

>> >> > > There might be workarounds for your problems.

>> >> > > Carlos

>> >> > >

>> >> > > "Rick" wrote:

>> >> > >

>> >> > > > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured

>> >> > > > at

>> >> > > > all with

>> >> > > > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow,

>> >> > > > so

>> >> > > > I rebuilt

>> >> > > > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and

>> >> > > > just figured

>> >> > > > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be

>> >> > > > needed. Vista,

>> >> > > > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which

>> >> > > > I

>> >> > > > slaved,

>> >> > > > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete

>> >> > > > it

>> >> > > > and try XP

>> >> > > > on the new SATA drive.

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > "Theo" wrote:

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > > The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

>> >> > > > > is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

>> >> > > > > to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

>> >> > > > > the current installation and do a new installation of the

>> >> > > > > 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

>> >> > > > > different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

>> >> > > > > path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

>> >> > > > >

>> >> > > > >

>> >> > > > > Rick wrote:

>> >> > > > > > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I

>> >> > > > > > should

>> >> > > > > > have purchased

>> >> > > > > > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems

>> >> > > > > > (obviously)

>> >> > > > > > running most of

>> >> > > > > > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit

>> >> > > > > > version. Is there

>> >> > > > > > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is

>> >> > > > > > there

>> >> > > > > > any remedy to

>> >> > > > > > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would

>> >> > > > > > have to go out

>> >> > > > > > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit

>> >> > > > > > version...agian,

>> >> > > > > > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to

>> >> > > > > > reformat

>> >> > > > > > the disk, and

>> >> > > > > > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both

>> >> > > > > > from the

>> >> > > > > > perspective of cost and time.

>> >> > > > > >

>> >> > > > > > Rick

>> >> > > > >

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Theo]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

This option is only available if you purchase the full

Retail version. If you purchase an OEM version this option

does not exist.

 

 

Tony Sperling <tony.sperling@db wrote:

> Before making drastic decisions, Rick, you might tell us what version of

> Vista you have installed? If it's 'Ultimate' you can legally remove the

> 64bit installation and exchange it for a 32bit with the same product key, if

> I'm not mistaken. You should have both right there on the installation

> media.

>

> Otherwise, you can forget this and put confidence in what these good people

> have been telling you. I too think there are many good reasons to hang on to

> the 64bit one, as long as everything is behaving.

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

> "Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:907C7C2A-7435-4D61-B01A-59ADD252F395@microsoft.com...

>> Carlos:

>> I am using the USB connection. I am not sure if the camera came with an

>> adapter for Firewire. I was hoping that Vista would have a program that

>> would download it, but did not try your suggestion. I will do that. It

>> would be nice, but the only problem I still may encounter is Sonyuses a

>> different format for their HD videos, ACHDV or something like that, that

>> needs to be converted to be mastered in Adobe, and of course, that

>> conversion

>> program is in the software program that I cannot get to run while I have

>> Vista 64 bit, it only runs in 32 bit. I will give it a shot when I get

>> home,

>> though, it's worth a try. Very discouraging knowing that I probably will

>> have to reformat everything, but a new Vista program, and start over.

>>

>> Rick

>> "Carlos" wrote:

>>

>>> Rick:

>>> Are you using Firewire (IEEE1394) for downloading videos from your

>>> camcorder

>>> to your PC?

>>> That is the connection I use to do it with my old JVC DV camera in Vista

>>> x64.

>>> I use neither USB nor audio/video.

>>> Just Firewire, no JVC software.

>>> When I plug the camera I have a pop-up menu with Windows Movie Maker

>>> offering me to make a movie and also NeroVision saying something similar.

>>> Carlos

>>>

>>> "Rick" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Carlos:

>>>> Unfortunately, when I build the new computer, I did it for the sole

>>>> purpose of downloading videos from my new Sony HD digital camcorder I

>>>> bought,

>>>> and it worked on the old system, but was taking upto 8 hours to master

>>>> a

>>>> video. So, I did not check to see if it was Vista 64 bit compatible

>>>> when I

>>>> bought it. After discovering I could download pictures but not the

>>>> videos, I

>>>> then checked the Sony website and wrote to them, and unfortunately

>>>> their

>>>> software, which is the one I need, runs on Vista 32 bit but not 64.

>>>> So, it

>>>> looks like I will have to buy another version of Vista, the 32 bit,

>>>> reformat

>>>> the HD, and reinstall everyting all over again. Wish I had done just a

>>>> little more research.

>>>>

>>>> "Carlos" wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Rick:

>>>>> You might also try the freeware Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 in Vista

>>>>> x64,

>>>>> installing Windows XP 32-bit (as guest OS) and your problematic apps

>>>>> there.

>>>>> That might "patch" your incompatibilities for the time being.

>>>>> What apps are you giving problems?

>>>>> Have you tried running them in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

>>>>> There might be workarounds for your problems.

>>>>> Carlos

>>>>>

>>>>> "Rick" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at

>>>>>> all with

>>>>>> Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so

>>>>>> I rebuilt

>>>>>> a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and

>>>>>> just figured

>>>>>> it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be

>>>>>> needed. Vista,

>>>>>> however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I

>>>>>> slaved,

>>>>>> multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it

>>>>>> and try XP

>>>>>> on the new SATA drive.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Theo" wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

>>>>>>> is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

>>>>>>> to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

>>>>>>> the current installation and do a new installation of the

>>>>>>> 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

>>>>>>> different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

>>>>>>> path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Rick wrote:

>>>>>>>> I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should

>>>>>>>> have purchased

>>>>>>>> th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously)

>>>>>>>> running most of

>>>>>>>> my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit

>>>>>>>> version. Is there

>>>>>>>> any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there

>>>>>>>> any remedy to

>>>>>>>> this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would

>>>>>>>> have to go out

>>>>>>>> and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit

>>>>>>>> version...agian,

>>>>>>>> will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat

>>>>>>>> the disk, and

>>>>>>>> start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both

>>>>>>>> from the

>>>>>>>> perspective of cost and time.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Rick

>

>

[Guest Duke]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

I am trying to run DV camera on Vista 64, but even with drivers, 64 tells me

"cannot find software." The manufacturer says camera is not compatible with

Vista 64. Run the same camera on different computer with Vista 32, it runs

fine. What to do?

 

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Most programs will not run from an old drive, whether XP or Vista. Most

> must be installed on the system they are going to run on. Most programs

> that will run on Vista 32 will also run on Vista 64, so make sure the

> programs are Vista compatible. Also, some of the newer motherboards do not

> have drivers for XP, so make sure they are available before you make the

> change.

>

> "Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:23DDC6CC-AA7E-42C0-BC83-32A447F94AE0@microsoft.com...

> > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all

> > with

> > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I

> > rebuilt

> > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just

> > figured

> > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed.

> > Vista,

> > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I slaved,

> > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and try

> > XP

> > on the new SATA drive.

> >

> > "Theo" wrote:

> >

> >> The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

> >> is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

> >> to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

> >> the current installation and do a new installation of the

> >> 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

> >> different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

> >> path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

> >>

> >>

> >> Rick wrote:

> >> > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have

> >> > purchased

> >> > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously) running

> >> > most of

> >> > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is

> >> > there

> >> > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any

> >> > remedy to

> >> > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to go

> >> > out

> >> > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit

> >> > version...agian,

> >> > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the

> >> > disk, and

> >> > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

> >> > perspective of cost and time.

> >> >

> >> > Rick

> >>

>

>

[Guest Tom Lake]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

 

 

"Duke" <Duke@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:D7F0EE23-6169-43EF-A593-41F1B8306079@microsoft.com...

> I am trying to run DV camera on Vista 64, but even with drivers, 64 tells

> me

> "cannot find software." The manufacturer says camera is not compatible

> with

> Vista 64. Run the same camera on different computer with Vista 32, it

> runs

> fine. What to do?

 

I know this isn't what you want to hear but it's true.

You only have two choices:

 

1. Get a different camera.

 

2. Go back to Vista 32 or any other supported OS.

 

Tom Lake

[Guest Barb Bowman]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

You are replying to a very old thread. You should start a new

thread.

 

You really have not given enough info - brand and model of camera

are missing.

 

some DV cameras have both USB and firewire connections. in some

cases there is no USB support but firewire night work.

 

 

 

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:45:01 -0700, Duke

<Duke@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I am trying to run DV camera on Vista 64, but even with drivers, 64 tells me

>"cannot find software." The manufacturer says camera is not compatible with

>Vista 64. Run the same camera on different computer with Vista 32, it runs

>fine. What to do?

>

--

 

Barb Bowman

MS-MVP

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx

http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Running Vista 64 bit in 32 bit mode

 

Do what the manufacturer says.

 

"Duke" <Duke@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:D7F0EE23-6169-43EF-A593-41F1B8306079@microsoft.com...

>I am trying to run DV camera on Vista 64, but even with drivers, 64 tells

>me

> "cannot find software." The manufacturer says camera is not compatible

> with

> Vista 64. Run the same camera on different computer with Vista 32, it

> runs

> fine. What to do?

>

> "John Barnes" wrote:

>> Most programs will not run from an old drive, whether XP or Vista. Most

>> must be installed on the system they are going to run on. Most programs

>> that will run on Vista 32 will also run on Vista 64, so make sure the

>> programs are Vista compatible. Also, some of the newer motherboards do

>> not

>> have drivers for XP, so make sure they are available before you make the

>> change.

>>

>> "Rick" <Rick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:23DDC6CC-AA7E-42C0-BC83-32A447F94AE0@microsoft.com...

>> > Thanks, Theo, that is what I was afraid of. I am not enarmoured at all

>> > with

>> > Vista, I was running XP on my old computer, but it was too slow, so I

>> > rebuilt

>> > a new computer with a Quad 4, 4 GB DDR2, 750 GB SATA, etc., and just

>> > figured

>> > it would be wise to use the 64 bit, as eventually it would be needed.

>> > Vista,

>> > however, is not letting me do anything from my old drive, which I

>> > slaved,

>> > multiple issues with the program thus far. I might just delete it and

>> > try

>> > XP

>> > on the new SATA drive.

>> >

>> > "Theo" wrote:

>> >

>> >> The 64-bit version boots up in the 64-bit mode only. There

>> >> is no way to make it boot in the 32-bit mode. If you want

>> >> to replace the 64-bit version, you must completely delete

>> >> the current installation and do a new installation of the

>> >> 32-bit version, or do a dual boot with each version on

>> >> different partitions or drives. There is neither an upgrade

>> >> path nor a downgrade path between the 2 versions.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> Rick wrote:

>> >> > I recently purchased Vista 64 bit, when in retrospect I should have

>> >> > purchased

>> >> > th 32 bit version. I am now encoutering problems (obviously)

>> >> > running

>> >> > most of

>> >> > my programs, as they are not compatible with the 64 bit version. Is

>> >> > there

>> >> > any way to run the 64 bit version in a 32 bit mode, or is there any

>> >> > remedy to

>> >> > this problem? I was thinking that if all else fails I would have to

>> >> > go

>> >> > out

>> >> > and buy the 32 bit version, and reinstall it over the 64 bit

>> >> > version...agian,

>> >> > will that work if I do that, or am I going to have to reformat the

>> >> > disk, and

>> >> > start all over from scratch, which I hoping not to do, both from the

>> >> > perspective of cost and time.

>> >> >

>> >> > Rick

>> >>

>>

>>