Guest Airwerx Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to donate most of my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Perhaps some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my new HP-OEM (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit without a hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from (C:) to create the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and this is my second transmission via mail... Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what the heck, I can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for whatever aint workin'... Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and learnin'...
Guest John Barnes Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: WoW! Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought both 32-bit and 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the machine at the same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite hardware or software that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the early stages of XP64 and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie has some great posts on what to look for in printers) and software and found that we used 32-bit less and less. Moving to new technologies always requires a little pain in that respect as some of the hardware won't ever have drivers written and software that the company either won't bother updating or they have gone out of business or sold the product to a competitor who has their own product line. Good luck, and enjoy. "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... > That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to donate most of > my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Perhaps > some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my new HP-OEM > (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. > > Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit without a > hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from (C:) to create > the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and this is my second > transmission via mail... > > Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what the heck, I > can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for whatever aint > workin'... > > Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and learnin'...
Guest Charlie Russel - MVP Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: WoW! he can even, should that more closely fit his needs, load Vista in a virtual machine in 64bit, since, as you say, he's got a license for both. Of course, he can't do _both_ a VM and dual boot. That, I'm afraid, would require a third license. (and Yes, I think that's both wrong a silly, but it's MS's sandbox and I can't change the rules.) -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message news:uNDnpZ%23CIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought both 32-bit and > 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the machine at the > same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite hardware or software > that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the early stages of XP64 > and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie has some great posts on what > to look for in printers) and software and found that we used 32-bit less > and less. Moving to new technologies always requires a little pain in > that respect as some of the hardware won't ever have drivers written and > software that the company either won't bother updating or they have gone > out of business or sold the product to a competitor who has their own > product line. > Good luck, and enjoy. > > > "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message > news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... >> That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to donate most of >> my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Perhaps >> some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my new HP-OEM >> (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. >> >> Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit without a >> hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from (C:) to create >> the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and this is my second >> transmission via mail... >> >> Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what the heck, I >> can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for whatever aint >> workin'... >> >> Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and learnin'... >
Guest John Barnes Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: WoW! Since I don't use it, I don't think about it, but, of course that could be the best solution if he has sufficient memory. Have they fixed the problem with not being able to use USB devices from the VM? "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:64F8D7C5-58D8-4E82-925A-C8040A597AE2@microsoft.com... > he can even, should that more closely fit his needs, load Vista in a > virtual machine in 64bit, since, as you say, he's got a license for both. > Of course, he can't do _both_ a VM and dual boot. That, I'm afraid, would > require a third license. (and Yes, I think that's both wrong a silly, but > it's MS's sandbox and I can't change the rules.) > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > > > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message > news:uNDnpZ%23CIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought both 32-bit >> and 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the machine at >> the same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite hardware or >> software that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the early >> stages of XP64 and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie has some >> great posts on what to look for in printers) and software and found that >> we used 32-bit less and less. Moving to new technologies always requires >> a little pain in that respect as some of the hardware won't ever have >> drivers written and software that the company either won't bother >> updating or they have gone out of business or sold the product to a >> competitor who has their own product line. >> Good luck, and enjoy. >> >> >> "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message >> news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... >>> That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to donate most of >>> my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Perhaps >>> some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my new HP-OEM >>> (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. >>> >>> Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit without a >>> hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from (C:) to >>> create the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and this is my >>> second transmission via mail... >>> >>> Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what the heck, I >>> can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for whatever aint >>> workin'... >>> >>> Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and learnin'... >> >
Guest Carlos Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: WoW! John: No, they have not fixed the USB issue in VPC2007 I can use my Wireless Keyboard+Mouse USB combo (XP 32-bit guest), but the rest of the USB gizmos won't work (by design). Carlos "John Barnes" wrote: > Since I don't use it, I don't think about it, but, of course that could be > the best solution if he has sufficient memory. Have they fixed the problem > with not being able to use USB devices from the VM? > > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message > news:64F8D7C5-58D8-4E82-925A-C8040A597AE2@microsoft.com... > > he can even, should that more closely fit his needs, load Vista in a > > virtual machine in 64bit, since, as you say, he's got a license for both. > > Of course, he can't do _both_ a VM and dual boot. That, I'm afraid, would > > require a third license. (and Yes, I think that's both wrong a silly, but > > it's MS's sandbox and I can't change the rules.) > > > > -- > > Charlie. > > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > > > > > > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message > > news:uNDnpZ%23CIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought both 32-bit > >> and 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the machine at > >> the same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite hardware or > >> software that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the early > >> stages of XP64 and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie has some > >> great posts on what to look for in printers) and software and found that > >> we used 32-bit less and less. Moving to new technologies always requires > >> a little pain in that respect as some of the hardware won't ever have > >> drivers written and software that the company either won't bother > >> updating or they have gone out of business or sold the product to a > >> competitor who has their own product line. > >> Good luck, and enjoy. > >> > >> > >> "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message > >> news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... > >>> That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to donate most of > >>> my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Perhaps > >>> some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my new HP-OEM > >>> (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. > >>> > >>> Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit without a > >>> hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from (C:) to > >>> create the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and this is my > >>> second transmission via mail... > >>> > >>> Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what the heck, I > >>> can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for whatever aint > >>> workin'... > >>> > >>> Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and learnin'... > >> > > > >
Guest John Barnes Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: WoW! Then, since 80% of the devices I needed 32-bit for would have made a VM useless for that purpose. Thanks for the reply. "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2052D161-D983-44F6-95DA-587DB1F7D853@microsoft.com... > John: > No, they have not fixed the USB issue in VPC2007 > I can use my Wireless Keyboard+Mouse USB combo (XP 32-bit guest), but the > rest of the USB gizmos won't work (by design). > Carlos > > "John Barnes" wrote: > >> Since I don't use it, I don't think about it, but, of course that could >> be >> the best solution if he has sufficient memory. Have they fixed the >> problem >> with not being able to use USB devices from the VM? >> >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message >> news:64F8D7C5-58D8-4E82-925A-C8040A597AE2@microsoft.com... >> > he can even, should that more closely fit his needs, load Vista in a >> > virtual machine in 64bit, since, as you say, he's got a license for >> > both. >> > Of course, he can't do _both_ a VM and dual boot. That, I'm afraid, >> > would >> > require a third license. (and Yes, I think that's both wrong a silly, >> > but >> > it's MS's sandbox and I can't change the rules.) >> > >> > -- >> > Charlie. >> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> > >> > >> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message >> > news:uNDnpZ%23CIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought both 32-bit >> >> and 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the machine >> >> at >> >> the same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite hardware or >> >> software that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the early >> >> stages of XP64 and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie has some >> >> great posts on what to look for in printers) and software and found >> >> that >> >> we used 32-bit less and less. Moving to new technologies always >> >> requires >> >> a little pain in that respect as some of the hardware won't ever have >> >> drivers written and software that the company either won't bother >> >> updating or they have gone out of business or sold the product to a >> >> competitor who has their own product line. >> >> Good luck, and enjoy. >> >> >> >> >> >> "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message >> >> news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... >> >>> That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to donate most >> >>> of >> >>> my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. >> >>> Perhaps >> >>> some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my new >> >>> HP-OEM >> >>> (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. >> >>> >> >>> Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit >> >>> without a >> >>> hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from (C:) to >> >>> create the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and this is >> >>> my >> >>> second transmission via mail... >> >>> >> >>> Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what the heck, >> >>> I >> >>> can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for whatever aint >> >>> workin'... >> >>> >> >>> Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and >> >>> learnin'... >> >> >> > >> >>
Guest Carlos Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: WoW! John: You might want to try VMWare, which supports USB devices. VMware Workstation: http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/ is not free but... VMware Server: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ can be downloaded and used for free! I don't know where's the catch. Here's a comprehensive list of the many virtual machine projects available: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines Carlos "John Barnes" wrote: > Then, since 80% of the devices I needed 32-bit for would have made a VM > useless for that purpose. Thanks for the reply. > > "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:2052D161-D983-44F6-95DA-587DB1F7D853@microsoft.com... > > John: > > No, they have not fixed the USB issue in VPC2007 > > I can use my Wireless Keyboard+Mouse USB combo (XP 32-bit guest), but the > > rest of the USB gizmos won't work (by design). > > Carlos > > > > "John Barnes" wrote: > > > >> Since I don't use it, I don't think about it, but, of course that could > >> be > >> the best solution if he has sufficient memory. Have they fixed the > >> problem > >> with not being able to use USB devices from the VM? > >> > >> > >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message > >> news:64F8D7C5-58D8-4E82-925A-C8040A597AE2@microsoft.com... > >> > he can even, should that more closely fit his needs, load Vista in a > >> > virtual machine in 64bit, since, as you say, he's got a license for > >> > both. > >> > Of course, he can't do _both_ a VM and dual boot. That, I'm afraid, > >> > would > >> > require a third license. (and Yes, I think that's both wrong a silly, > >> > but > >> > it's MS's sandbox and I can't change the rules.) > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Charlie. > >> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > >> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > >> > > >> > > >> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message > >> > news:uNDnpZ%23CIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> >> Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought both 32-bit > >> >> and 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the machine > >> >> at > >> >> the same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite hardware or > >> >> software that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the early > >> >> stages of XP64 and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie has some > >> >> great posts on what to look for in printers) and software and found > >> >> that > >> >> we used 32-bit less and less. Moving to new technologies always > >> >> requires > >> >> a little pain in that respect as some of the hardware won't ever have > >> >> drivers written and software that the company either won't bother > >> >> updating or they have gone out of business or sold the product to a > >> >> competitor who has their own product line. > >> >> Good luck, and enjoy. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... > >> >>> That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to donate most > >> >>> of > >> >>> my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. > >> >>> Perhaps > >> >>> some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my new > >> >>> HP-OEM > >> >>> (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. > >> >>> > >> >>> Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit > >> >>> without a > >> >>> hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from (C:) to > >> >>> create the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and this is > >> >>> my > >> >>> second transmission via mail... > >> >>> > >> >>> Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what the heck, > >> >>> I > >> >>> can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for whatever aint > >> >>> workin'... > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and > >> >>> learnin'... > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > >
Guest John Barnes Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: WoW! Thanks, Carlos, but that was 'needed'. I have long since replaced all of my hardware with 64-bit compatible. I do have two remaining uses for XP86 and since I have more than adequate room for it on my wife's machine it makes no sense to change. "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:49E62682-7B5B-45A6-A5FC-538E4DA40234@microsoft.com... > John: > You might want to try VMWare, which supports USB devices. > VMware Workstation: http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/ > is not free but... > VMware Server: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ > can be downloaded and used for free! > I don't know where's the catch. > Here's a comprehensive list of the many virtual machine projects > available: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines > Carlos > > "John Barnes" wrote: > >> Then, since 80% of the devices I needed 32-bit for would have made a VM >> useless for that purpose. Thanks for the reply. >> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:2052D161-D983-44F6-95DA-587DB1F7D853@microsoft.com... >> > John: >> > No, they have not fixed the USB issue in VPC2007 >> > I can use my Wireless Keyboard+Mouse USB combo (XP 32-bit guest), but >> > the >> > rest of the USB gizmos won't work (by design). >> > Carlos >> > >> > "John Barnes" wrote: >> > >> >> Since I don't use it, I don't think about it, but, of course that >> >> could >> >> be >> >> the best solution if he has sufficient memory. Have they fixed the >> >> problem >> >> with not being able to use USB devices from the VM? >> >> >> >> >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in >> >> message >> >> news:64F8D7C5-58D8-4E82-925A-C8040A597AE2@microsoft.com... >> >> > he can even, should that more closely fit his needs, load Vista in a >> >> > virtual machine in 64bit, since, as you say, he's got a license for >> >> > both. >> >> > Of course, he can't do _both_ a VM and dual boot. That, I'm afraid, >> >> > would >> >> > require a third license. (and Yes, I think that's both wrong a >> >> > silly, >> >> > but >> >> > it's MS's sandbox and I can't change the rules.) >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Charlie. >> >> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> >> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message >> >> > news:uNDnpZ%23CIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> >> Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought both >> >> >> 32-bit >> >> >> and 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the >> >> >> machine >> >> >> at >> >> >> the same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite hardware >> >> >> or >> >> >> software that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the >> >> >> early >> >> >> stages of XP64 and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie has >> >> >> some >> >> >> great posts on what to look for in printers) and software and found >> >> >> that >> >> >> we used 32-bit less and less. Moving to new technologies always >> >> >> requires >> >> >> a little pain in that respect as some of the hardware won't ever >> >> >> have >> >> >> drivers written and software that the company either won't bother >> >> >> updating or they have gone out of business or sold the product to a >> >> >> competitor who has their own product line. >> >> >> Good luck, and enjoy. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... >> >> >>> That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to donate >> >> >>> most >> >> >>> of >> >> >>> my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. >> >> >>> Perhaps >> >> >>> some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my new >> >> >>> HP-OEM >> >> >>> (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit >> >> >>> without a >> >> >>> hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from (C:) to >> >> >>> create the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and this >> >> >>> is >> >> >>> my >> >> >>> second transmission via mail... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what the >> >> >>> heck, >> >> >>> I >> >> >>> can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for whatever >> >> >>> aint >> >> >>> workin'... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and >> >> >>> learnin'... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest Charlie Russel - MVP Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: WoW! No, BUT if you use VMWare Workstation, you get full USB 2.0 support. And from the MS licensing perspective you're in the same place. (There might be USB 2 support on VMWare Server, which is free, but I'm not sure. Last I looked it was still only USB 1.1.) This is a case where I would definitely recommend a non-MS solution. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message news:eZ9YbsBDIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Since I don't use it, I don't think about it, but, of course that could be > the best solution if he has sufficient memory. Have they fixed the > problem with not being able to use USB devices from the VM? > > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message > news:64F8D7C5-58D8-4E82-925A-C8040A597AE2@microsoft.com... >> he can even, should that more closely fit his needs, load Vista in a >> virtual machine in 64bit, since, as you say, he's got a license for both. >> Of course, he can't do _both_ a VM and dual boot. That, I'm afraid, would >> require a third license. (and Yes, I think that's both wrong a silly, but >> it's MS's sandbox and I can't change the rules.) >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> >> >> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message >> news:uNDnpZ%23CIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought both 32-bit >>> and 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the machine at >>> the same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite hardware or >>> software that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the early >>> stages of XP64 and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie has some >>> great posts on what to look for in printers) and software and found that >>> we used 32-bit less and less. Moving to new technologies always >>> requires a little pain in that respect as some of the hardware won't >>> ever have drivers written and software that the company either won't >>> bother updating or they have gone out of business or sold the product to >>> a competitor who has their own product line. >>> Good luck, and enjoy. >>> >>> >>> "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message >>> news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... >>>> That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to donate most >>>> of my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. >>>> Perhaps some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my >>>> new HP-OEM (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. >>>> >>>> Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit without >>>> a hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from (C:) to >>>> create the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and this is my >>>> second transmission via mail... >>>> >>>> Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what the heck, I >>>> can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for whatever aint >>>> workin'... >>>> >>>> Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and >>>> learnin'... >>> >> >
Guest Charlie Russel - MVP Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: WoW! Carlos - Have they upgraded the support to USB2 in the Server product yet? Last I looked it was still only USB1.1, which is OK for some things, but not all, certainly. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:49E62682-7B5B-45A6-A5FC-538E4DA40234@microsoft.com... > John: > You might want to try VMWare, which supports USB devices. > VMware Workstation: http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/ > is not free but... > VMware Server: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ > can be downloaded and used for free! > I don't know where's the catch. > Here's a comprehensive list of the many virtual machine projects > available: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines > Carlos > > "John Barnes" wrote: > >> Then, since 80% of the devices I needed 32-bit for would have made a VM >> useless for that purpose. Thanks for the reply. >> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:2052D161-D983-44F6-95DA-587DB1F7D853@microsoft.com... >> > John: >> > No, they have not fixed the USB issue in VPC2007 >> > I can use my Wireless Keyboard+Mouse USB combo (XP 32-bit guest), but >> > the >> > rest of the USB gizmos won't work (by design). >> > Carlos >> > >> > "John Barnes" wrote: >> > >> >> Since I don't use it, I don't think about it, but, of course that >> >> could >> >> be >> >> the best solution if he has sufficient memory. Have they fixed the >> >> problem >> >> with not being able to use USB devices from the VM? >> >> >> >> >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in >> >> message >> >> news:64F8D7C5-58D8-4E82-925A-C8040A597AE2@microsoft.com... >> >> > he can even, should that more closely fit his needs, load Vista in a >> >> > virtual machine in 64bit, since, as you say, he's got a license for >> >> > both. >> >> > Of course, he can't do _both_ a VM and dual boot. That, I'm afraid, >> >> > would >> >> > require a third license. (and Yes, I think that's both wrong a >> >> > silly, >> >> > but >> >> > it's MS's sandbox and I can't change the rules.) >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Charlie. >> >> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> >> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message >> >> > news:uNDnpZ%23CIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> >> Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought both >> >> >> 32-bit >> >> >> and 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the >> >> >> machine >> >> >> at >> >> >> the same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite hardware >> >> >> or >> >> >> software that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the >> >> >> early >> >> >> stages of XP64 and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie has >> >> >> some >> >> >> great posts on what to look for in printers) and software and found >> >> >> that >> >> >> we used 32-bit less and less. Moving to new technologies always >> >> >> requires >> >> >> a little pain in that respect as some of the hardware won't ever >> >> >> have >> >> >> drivers written and software that the company either won't bother >> >> >> updating or they have gone out of business or sold the product to a >> >> >> competitor who has their own product line. >> >> >> Good luck, and enjoy. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... >> >> >>> That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to donate >> >> >>> most >> >> >>> of >> >> >>> my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. >> >> >>> Perhaps >> >> >>> some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my new >> >> >>> HP-OEM >> >> >>> (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit >> >> >>> without a >> >> >>> hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from (C:) to >> >> >>> create the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and this >> >> >>> is >> >> >>> my >> >> >>> second transmission via mail... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what the >> >> >>> heck, >> >> >>> I >> >> >>> can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for whatever >> >> >>> aint >> >> >>> workin'... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and >> >> >>> learnin'... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest Carlos Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: WoW! Charlie: My best guess is that they are still on USB1.1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware_Server "USB 2.0 devices in the host operating-system visible to the guest operating-system as USB 1.1 devices" Carlos "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote: > Carlos - > Have they upgraded the support to USB2 in the Server product yet? Last I > looked it was still only USB1.1, which is OK for some things, but not all, > certainly. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > > > "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:49E62682-7B5B-45A6-A5FC-538E4DA40234@microsoft.com... > > John: > > You might want to try VMWare, which supports USB devices. > > VMware Workstation: http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/ > > is not free but... > > VMware Server: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ > > can be downloaded and used for free! > > I don't know where's the catch. > > Here's a comprehensive list of the many virtual machine projects > > available: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines > > Carlos > > > > "John Barnes" wrote: > > > >> Then, since 80% of the devices I needed 32-bit for would have made a VM > >> useless for that purpose. Thanks for the reply. > >> > >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:2052D161-D983-44F6-95DA-587DB1F7D853@microsoft.com... > >> > John: > >> > No, they have not fixed the USB issue in VPC2007 > >> > I can use my Wireless Keyboard+Mouse USB combo (XP 32-bit guest), but > >> > the > >> > rest of the USB gizmos won't work (by design). > >> > Carlos > >> > > >> > "John Barnes" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Since I don't use it, I don't think about it, but, of course that > >> >> could > >> >> be > >> >> the best solution if he has sufficient memory. Have they fixed the > >> >> problem > >> >> with not being able to use USB devices from the VM? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in > >> >> message > >> >> news:64F8D7C5-58D8-4E82-925A-C8040A597AE2@microsoft.com... > >> >> > he can even, should that more closely fit his needs, load Vista in a > >> >> > virtual machine in 64bit, since, as you say, he's got a license for > >> >> > both. > >> >> > Of course, he can't do _both_ a VM and dual boot. That, I'm afraid, > >> >> > would > >> >> > require a third license. (and Yes, I think that's both wrong a > >> >> > silly, > >> >> > but > >> >> > it's MS's sandbox and I can't change the rules.) > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Charlie. > >> >> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > >> >> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message > >> >> > news:uNDnpZ%23CIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> >> >> Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought both > >> >> >> 32-bit > >> >> >> and 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the > >> >> >> machine > >> >> >> at > >> >> >> the same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite hardware > >> >> >> or > >> >> >> software that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the > >> >> >> early > >> >> >> stages of XP64 and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie has > >> >> >> some > >> >> >> great posts on what to look for in printers) and software and found > >> >> >> that > >> >> >> we used 32-bit less and less. Moving to new technologies always > >> >> >> requires > >> >> >> a little pain in that respect as some of the hardware won't ever > >> >> >> have > >> >> >> drivers written and software that the company either won't bother > >> >> >> updating or they have gone out of business or sold the product to a > >> >> >> competitor who has their own product line. > >> >> >> Good luck, and enjoy. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... > >> >> >>> That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to donate > >> >> >>> most > >> >> >>> of > >> >> >>> my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. > >> >> >>> Perhaps > >> >> >>> some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my new > >> >> >>> HP-OEM > >> >> >>> (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit > >> >> >>> without a > >> >> >>> hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from (C:) to > >> >> >>> create the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and this > >> >> >>> is > >> >> >>> my > >> >> >>> second transmission via mail... > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what the > >> >> >>> heck, > >> >> >>> I > >> >> >>> can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for whatever > >> >> >>> aint > >> >> >>> workin'... > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and > >> >> >>> learnin'... > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >
Guest Charlie Russel - MVP Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: WoW! What I feared. Pretty much means you need to opt for Workstation. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9516CE64-7DF9-4C79-9F2F-1993C0DD78C1@microsoft.com... > Charlie: > My best guess is that they are still on USB1.1. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware_Server > "USB 2.0 devices in the host operating-system visible to the guest > operating-system as USB 1.1 devices" > Carlos > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote: > >> Carlos - >> Have they upgraded the support to USB2 in the Server product yet? >> Last I >> looked it was still only USB1.1, which is OK for some things, but not >> all, >> certainly. >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> >> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:49E62682-7B5B-45A6-A5FC-538E4DA40234@microsoft.com... >> > John: >> > You might want to try VMWare, which supports USB devices. >> > VMware Workstation: http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/ >> > is not free but... >> > VMware Server: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ >> > can be downloaded and used for free! >> > I don't know where's the catch. >> > Here's a comprehensive list of the many virtual machine projects >> > available: >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines >> > Carlos >> > >> > "John Barnes" wrote: >> > >> >> Then, since 80% of the devices I needed 32-bit for would have made a >> >> VM >> >> useless for that purpose. Thanks for the reply. >> >> >> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:2052D161-D983-44F6-95DA-587DB1F7D853@microsoft.com... >> >> > John: >> >> > No, they have not fixed the USB issue in VPC2007 >> >> > I can use my Wireless Keyboard+Mouse USB combo (XP 32-bit guest), >> >> > but >> >> > the >> >> > rest of the USB gizmos won't work (by design). >> >> > Carlos >> >> > >> >> > "John Barnes" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Since I don't use it, I don't think about it, but, of course that >> >> >> could >> >> >> be >> >> >> the best solution if he has sufficient memory. Have they fixed the >> >> >> problem >> >> >> with not being able to use USB devices from the VM? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in >> >> >> message >> >> >> news:64F8D7C5-58D8-4E82-925A-C8040A597AE2@microsoft.com... >> >> >> > he can even, should that more closely fit his needs, load Vista >> >> >> > in a >> >> >> > virtual machine in 64bit, since, as you say, he's got a license >> >> >> > for >> >> >> > both. >> >> >> > Of course, he can't do _both_ a VM and dual boot. That, I'm >> >> >> > afraid, >> >> >> > would >> >> >> > require a third license. (and Yes, I think that's both wrong a >> >> >> > silly, >> >> >> > but >> >> >> > it's MS's sandbox and I can't change the rules.) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Charlie. >> >> >> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> >> >> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message >> >> >> > news:uNDnpZ%23CIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought both >> >> >> >> 32-bit >> >> >> >> and 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the >> >> >> >> machine >> >> >> >> at >> >> >> >> the same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite >> >> >> >> hardware >> >> >> >> or >> >> >> >> software that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the >> >> >> >> early >> >> >> >> stages of XP64 and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie has >> >> >> >> some >> >> >> >> great posts on what to look for in printers) and software and >> >> >> >> found >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> we used 32-bit less and less. Moving to new technologies always >> >> >> >> requires >> >> >> >> a little pain in that respect as some of the hardware won't ever >> >> >> >> have >> >> >> >> drivers written and software that the company either won't >> >> >> >> bother >> >> >> >> updating or they have gone out of business or sold the product >> >> >> >> to a >> >> >> >> competitor who has their own product line. >> >> >> >> Good luck, and enjoy. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... >> >> >> >>> That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to >> >> >> >>> donate >> >> >> >>> most >> >> >> >>> of >> >> >> >>> my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate 64-bit. >> >> >> >>> Perhaps >> >> >> >>> some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my >> >> >> >>> new >> >> >> >>> HP-OEM >> >> >> >>> (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit >> >> >> >>> without a >> >> >> >>> hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from (C:) >> >> >> >>> to >> >> >> >>> create the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and >> >> >> >>> this >> >> >> >>> is >> >> >> >>> my >> >> >> >>> second transmission via mail... >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what the >> >> >> >>> heck, >> >> >> >>> I >> >> >> >>> can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for >> >> >> >>> whatever >> >> >> >>> aint >> >> >> >>> workin'... >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and >> >> >> >>> learnin'... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest Dominic Payer Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: WoW! You can create a VM with the free VMware Server - Server is not officially supported on Vista though some have got it working - and then transfer it to the free VMWare Player which supports USB2 on x64 XP and Vista. "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:36027CC2-14D8-44F5-912F-EC4EA4F9D840@microsoft.com... > What I feared. Pretty much means you need to opt for Workstation. > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel > > > "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:9516CE64-7DF9-4C79-9F2F-1993C0DD78C1@microsoft.com... >> Charlie: >> My best guess is that they are still on USB1.1. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware_Server >> "USB 2.0 devices in the host operating-system visible to the guest >> operating-system as USB 1.1 devices" >> Carlos >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote: >> >>> Carlos - >>> Have they upgraded the support to USB2 in the Server product yet? >>> Last I >>> looked it was still only USB1.1, which is OK for some things, but not >>> all, >>> certainly. >>> >>> -- >>> Charlie. >>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >>> >>> >>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:49E62682-7B5B-45A6-A5FC-538E4DA40234@microsoft.com... >>> > John: >>> > You might want to try VMWare, which supports USB devices. >>> > VMware Workstation: http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/ >>> > is not free but... >>> > VMware Server: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ >>> > can be downloaded and used for free! >>> > I don't know where's the catch. >>> > Here's a comprehensive list of the many virtual machine projects >>> > available: >>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines >>> > Carlos >>> > >>> > "John Barnes" wrote: >>> > >>> >> Then, since 80% of the devices I needed 32-bit for would have made a >>> >> VM >>> >> useless for that purpose. Thanks for the reply. >>> >> >>> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> >> news:2052D161-D983-44F6-95DA-587DB1F7D853@microsoft.com... >>> >> > John: >>> >> > No, they have not fixed the USB issue in VPC2007 >>> >> > I can use my Wireless Keyboard+Mouse USB combo (XP 32-bit guest), >>> >> > but >>> >> > the >>> >> > rest of the USB gizmos won't work (by design). >>> >> > Carlos >>> >> > >>> >> > "John Barnes" wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> Since I don't use it, I don't think about it, but, of course that >>> >> >> could >>> >> >> be >>> >> >> the best solution if he has sufficient memory. Have they fixed >>> >> >> the >>> >> >> problem >>> >> >> with not being able to use USB devices from the VM? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in >>> >> >> message >>> >> >> news:64F8D7C5-58D8-4E82-925A-C8040A597AE2@microsoft.com... >>> >> >> > he can even, should that more closely fit his needs, load Vista >>> >> >> > in a >>> >> >> > virtual machine in 64bit, since, as you say, he's got a license >>> >> >> > for >>> >> >> > both. >>> >> >> > Of course, he can't do _both_ a VM and dual boot. That, I'm >>> >> >> > afraid, >>> >> >> > would >>> >> >> > require a third license. (and Yes, I think that's both wrong a >>> >> >> > silly, >>> >> >> > but >>> >> >> > it's MS's sandbox and I can't change the rules.) >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > -- >>> >> >> > Charlie. >>> >> >> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >>> >> >> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message >>> >> >> > news:uNDnpZ%23CIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> >> >> >> Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought both >>> >> >> >> 32-bit >>> >> >> >> and 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the >>> >> >> >> machine >>> >> >> >> at >>> >> >> >> the same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite >>> >> >> >> hardware >>> >> >> >> or >>> >> >> >> software that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the >>> >> >> >> early >>> >> >> >> stages of XP64 and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie has >>> >> >> >> some >>> >> >> >> great posts on what to look for in printers) and software and >>> >> >> >> found >>> >> >> >> that >>> >> >> >> we used 32-bit less and less. Moving to new technologies >>> >> >> >> always >>> >> >> >> requires >>> >> >> >> a little pain in that respect as some of the hardware won't >>> >> >> >> ever >>> >> >> >> have >>> >> >> >> drivers written and software that the company either won't >>> >> >> >> bother >>> >> >> >> updating or they have gone out of business or sold the product >>> >> >> >> to a >>> >> >> >> competitor who has their own product line. >>> >> >> >> Good luck, and enjoy. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message >>> >> >> >> news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... >>> >> >> >>> That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to >>> >> >> >>> donate >>> >> >> >>> most >>> >> >> >>> of >>> >> >> >>> my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate >>> >> >> >>> 64-bit. >>> >> >> >>> Perhaps >>> >> >> >>> some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my >>> >> >> >>> new >>> >> >> >>> HP-OEM >>> >> >> >>> (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate 64-bit >>> >> >> >>> without a >>> >> >> >>> hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from >>> >> >> >>> (C:) to >>> >> >> >>> create the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and >>> >> >> >>> this >>> >> >> >>> is >>> >> >> >>> my >>> >> >> >>> second transmission via mail... >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what >>> >> >> >>> the >>> >> >> >>> heck, >>> >> >> >>> I >>> >> >> >>> can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for >>> >> >> >>> whatever >>> >> >> >>> aint >>> >> >> >>> workin'... >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and >>> >> >> >>> learnin'... >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >
Guest Charlie Russel - MVP Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: WoW! Hmmm. Sounds like not fun, but possible. I'll stick to VMWare Workstation, I think. It's not that expensive. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Dominic Payer" <dcp@fsv.co.uk> wrote in message news:eaWJh$JDIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > You can create a VM with the free VMware Server - Server is not officially > supported on Vista though some have got it working - and then transfer it > to the free VMWare Player which supports USB2 on x64 XP and Vista. > > > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message > news:36027CC2-14D8-44F5-912F-EC4EA4F9D840@microsoft.com... >> What I feared. Pretty much means you need to opt for Workstation. >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >> >> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:9516CE64-7DF9-4C79-9F2F-1993C0DD78C1@microsoft.com... >>> Charlie: >>> My best guess is that they are still on USB1.1. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware_Server >>> "USB 2.0 devices in the host operating-system visible to the guest >>> operating-system as USB 1.1 devices" >>> Carlos >>> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote: >>> >>>> Carlos - >>>> Have they upgraded the support to USB2 in the Server product yet? >>>> Last I >>>> looked it was still only USB1.1, which is OK for some things, but not >>>> all, >>>> certainly. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Charlie. >>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >>>> >>>> >>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:49E62682-7B5B-45A6-A5FC-538E4DA40234@microsoft.com... >>>> > John: >>>> > You might want to try VMWare, which supports USB devices. >>>> > VMware Workstation: http://www.vmware.com/download/ws/ >>>> > is not free but... >>>> > VMware Server: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ >>>> > can be downloaded and used for free! >>>> > I don't know where's the catch. >>>> > Here's a comprehensive list of the many virtual machine projects >>>> > available: >>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines >>>> > Carlos >>>> > >>>> > "John Barnes" wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Then, since 80% of the devices I needed 32-bit for would have made a >>>> >> VM >>>> >> useless for that purpose. Thanks for the reply. >>>> >> >>>> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> >> news:2052D161-D983-44F6-95DA-587DB1F7D853@microsoft.com... >>>> >> > John: >>>> >> > No, they have not fixed the USB issue in VPC2007 >>>> >> > I can use my Wireless Keyboard+Mouse USB combo (XP 32-bit guest), >>>> >> > but >>>> >> > the >>>> >> > rest of the USB gizmos won't work (by design). >>>> >> > Carlos >>>> >> > >>>> >> > "John Barnes" wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> Since I don't use it, I don't think about it, but, of course that >>>> >> >> could >>>> >> >> be >>>> >> >> the best solution if he has sufficient memory. Have they fixed >>>> >> >> the >>>> >> >> problem >>>> >> >> with not being able to use USB devices from the VM? >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in >>>> >> >> message >>>> >> >> news:64F8D7C5-58D8-4E82-925A-C8040A597AE2@microsoft.com... >>>> >> >> > he can even, should that more closely fit his needs, load Vista >>>> >> >> > in a >>>> >> >> > virtual machine in 64bit, since, as you say, he's got a license >>>> >> >> > for >>>> >> >> > both. >>>> >> >> > Of course, he can't do _both_ a VM and dual boot. That, I'm >>>> >> >> > afraid, >>>> >> >> > would >>>> >> >> > require a third license. (and Yes, I think that's both wrong a >>>> >> >> > silly, >>>> >> >> > but >>>> >> >> > it's MS's sandbox and I can't change the rules.) >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > -- >>>> >> >> > Charlie. >>>> >> >> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64 >>>> >> >> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message >>>> >> >> > news:uNDnpZ%23CIHA.1056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> >> >> >> Welcome aboard. An advantage you have, is you have bought >>>> >> >> >> both >>>> >> >> >> 32-bit >>>> >> >> >> and 64-bit versions, and you are licensed to have both on the >>>> >> >> >> machine >>>> >> >> >> at >>>> >> >> >> the same time in dual boot if you find you have favourite >>>> >> >> >> hardware >>>> >> >> >> or >>>> >> >> >> software that won't run on 64-bit. Many of us did that in the >>>> >> >> >> early >>>> >> >> >> stages of XP64 and gradually replaced the hardware (Charlie >>>> >> >> >> has >>>> >> >> >> some >>>> >> >> >> great posts on what to look for in printers) and software and >>>> >> >> >> found >>>> >> >> >> that >>>> >> >> >> we used 32-bit less and less. Moving to new technologies >>>> >> >> >> always >>>> >> >> >> requires >>>> >> >> >> a little pain in that respect as some of the hardware won't >>>> >> >> >> ever >>>> >> >> >> have >>>> >> >> >> drivers written and software that the company either won't >>>> >> >> >> bother >>>> >> >> >> updating or they have gone out of business or sold the product >>>> >> >> >> to a >>>> >> >> >> competitor who has their own product line. >>>> >> >> >> Good luck, and enjoy. >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> "Airwerx" <sthompson@airwerx.com> wrote in message >>>> >> >> >> news:88D6CD6F-8366-4F98-ABE1-9B03B82E498D@microsoft.com... >>>> >> >> >>> That was too easy... I took some good advice and chose to >>>> >> >> >>> donate >>>> >> >> >>> most >>>> >> >> >>> of >>>> >> >> >>> my HP rebates back to Bill for a copy of Vista Ultimate >>>> >> >> >>> 64-bit. >>>> >> >> >>> Perhaps >>>> >> >> >>> some of you will remember my ranting and raving about how my >>>> >> >> >>> new >>>> >> >> >>> HP-OEM >>>> >> >> >>> (m8124n) didn't come with the 64-bit DVD. >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> Oh well, I got over it and tonight I installed Ultimate >>>> >> >> >>> 64-bit >>>> >> >> >>> without a >>>> >> >> >>> hitch... I opted to let Vista Ultimate take some GB's from >>>> >> >> >>> (C:) to >>>> >> >> >>> create the new partition (J:). After 47 updates I'm live and >>>> >> >> >>> this >>>> >> >> >>> is >>>> >> >> >>> my >>>> >> >> >>> second transmission via mail... >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> Sure, I haven't tested all of my hardware yet but hey, what >>>> >> >> >>> the >>>> >> >> >>> heck, >>>> >> >> >>> I >>>> >> >> >>> can always shut down and load x86 if I'm in a pinch for >>>> >> >> >>> whatever >>>> >> >> >>> aint >>>> >> >> >>> workin'... >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> Thanx Charlie, John and Co... lookin' forward to readin' and >>>> >> >> >>> learnin'... >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >
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