Hard Drive partitions

[Guest Ushnell]

I just bought a used Gateway computer from a neighbor and I've bumped into a

problem that's causing myself to ask: what the hell was this person thinking!

 

The Gateway contains Windows 2000 on it on a 9.52 or 10.00 Gigabyte hard

drive but the big mistake he made is that he created three other partitions

on the basic disk of the drive and the main drive C:\ where Windows stores

the software files is the one that's loosing all the storage space and the

rest are all beefed up.

 

I've tried to fix this problem using Disk Management in the Administrative

Tools section of the control panel and tried to see what happens by deleting

the E:\ partition. I taught the free space would go to the C:\ drive but the

computer considers it as free space.

 

As you can see here, what I would like do to is transfer the space of those

partitions to the C:\ drive. any help would be appreciated.

 

Ushnell

[Guest John John]

Re: Hard Drive partitions

 

Ushnell wrote:

> I just bought a used Gateway computer from a neighbor and I've bumped into a

> problem that's causing myself to ask: what the hell was this person thinking!

>

> The Gateway contains Windows 2000 on it on a 9.52 or 10.00 Gigabyte hard

> drive but the big mistake he made is that he created three other partitions

> on the basic disk of the drive and the main drive C:\ where Windows stores

> the software files is the one that's loosing all the storage space and the

> rest are all beefed up.

>

> I've tried to fix this problem using Disk Management in the Administrative

> Tools section of the control panel and tried to see what happens by deleting

> the E:\ partition. I taught the free space would go to the C:\ drive but the

> computer considers it as free space.

>

> As you can see here, what I would like do to is transfer the space of those

> partitions to the C:\ drive. any help would be appreciated.

>

> Ushnell

 

You will have to use third party tools to do this, it cannot be done

with any of the built-in Windows 2000 tools. Utilities like Partition

Magic, Acronis Disk Director or BootItNG can do this for you. All of

the above are commercial "pay for" utilities but Terabyte's BootItNg is

small (fits on a floppy), well proven and free to use for 30 days. You

don't need to install it to use it, you simply boot the computer with it

and at the installation screen you cancel the install and the utility

enters a maintenance mode where you will be able to do the partitioning

work.

 

You should be warned that while these utilities work very well and are

for most part trouble free, any glitch while doing partitioning work can

cause catastrophic data loss. A power failure while repartitioning the

drive will almost certainly lead to complete loss of all the data on the

disk, user errors can also lead to complete loss of data. Although

these complete data losses are rare, they do happen on occasion, if you

have valuable files on the disk make sure you have a backup before you

do any partitioning work!

 

John

[Guest Dave Patrick]

Re: Hard Drive partitions

 

It doesn't work that way.

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289876

 

 

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your repair install before

connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

 

Then

 

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en

 

 

 

--

 

Regards,

 

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

http://www.microsoft.com/protect

 

"Ushnell" wrote:

>I just bought a used Gateway computer from a neighbor and I've bumped into

>a

> problem that's causing myself to ask: what the hell was this person

> thinking!

>

> The Gateway contains Windows 2000 on it on a 9.52 or 10.00 Gigabyte hard

> drive but the big mistake he made is that he created three other

> partitions

> on the basic disk of the drive and the main drive C:\ where Windows

> stores

> the software files is the one that's loosing all the storage space and the

> rest are all beefed up.

>

> I've tried to fix this problem using Disk Management in the Administrative

> Tools section of the control panel and tried to see what happens by

> deleting

> the E:\ partition. I taught the free space would go to the C:\ drive but

> the

> computer considers it as free space.

>

> As you can see here, what I would like do to is transfer the space of

> those

> partitions to the C:\ drive. any help would be appreciated.

>

> Ushnell

[Guest Ushnell]

Re: Hard Drive partitions

 

 

 

"Dave Patrick" wrote:

> It doesn't work that way.

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289876

>

>

> Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your repair install before

> connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

> http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE

> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx

> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

>

> Then

>

> Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en

>

>

>

> --

>

> Regards,

>

> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

> Microsoft Certified Professional

> Microsoft MVP [Windows]

> http://www.microsoft.com/protect

>

> "Ushnell" wrote:

> >I just bought a used Gateway computer from a neighbor and I've bumped into

> >a

> > problem that's causing myself to ask: what the hell was this person

> > thinking!

> >

> > The Gateway contains Windows 2000 on it on a 9.52 or 10.00 Gigabyte hard

> > drive but the big mistake he made is that he created three other

> > partitions

> > on the basic disk of the drive and the main drive C:\ where Windows

> > stores

> > the software files is the one that's loosing all the storage space and the

> > rest are all beefed up.

> >

> > I've tried to fix this problem using Disk Management in the Administrative

> > Tools section of the control panel and tried to see what happens by

> > deleting

> > the E:\ partition. I taught the free space would go to the C:\ drive but

> > the

> > computer considers it as free space.

> >

> > As you can see here, what I would like do to is transfer the space of

> > those

> > partitions to the C:\ drive. any help would be appreciated.

> >

> > Ushnell

>

[Guest Ushnell]

Re: Hard Drive partitions

 

 

 

"Ushnell" wrote:

>

>

> "Dave Patrick" wrote:

>

> > It doesn't work that way.

> >

> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289876

> >

> >

> > Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your repair install before

> > connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

> > http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE

> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx

> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

> >

> > Then

> >

> > Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4

> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

> > Microsoft Certified Professional

> > Microsoft MVP [Windows]

> > http://www.microsoft.com/protect

> >

> > "Ushnell" wrote:

> > >I just bought a used Gateway computer from a neighbor and I've bumped into

> > >a

> > > problem that's causing myself to ask: what the hell was this person

> > > thinking!

> > >

> > > The Gateway contains Windows 2000 on it on a 9.52 or 10.00 Gigabyte hard

> > > drive but the big mistake he made is that he created three other

> > > partitions

> > > on the basic disk of the drive and the main drive C:\ where Windows

> > > stores

> > > the software files is the one that's loosing all the storage space and the

> > > rest are all beefed up.

 

I meant Windows 2000 Professional-if that doesn't matter then I have to tell

you that it's the C:\ hard drive partition not having any sufficeint storage

space that is preventing me from installing the service pack which I already

downloaded.

> > >

> > > Ushnell

> >

[Guest DL]

Re: Hard Drive partitions

 

As previously stated you can only use third party utilities, or use the

win2k cd to delete all partitions and start afresh - you will loose

everything on the hd!

 

 

"Ushnell" <Ushnell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:0BD79E74-9306-4FBF-B20F-7792A7B7B69B@microsoft.com...

>

>

> "Ushnell" wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> "Dave Patrick" wrote:

>>

>> > It doesn't work that way.

>> >

>> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289876

>> >

>> >

>> > Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your repair install before

>> > connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

>> > http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE

>> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx

>> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

>> >

>> > Then

>> >

>> > Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4

>> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > --

>> >

>> > Regards,

>> >

>> > Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

>> > Microsoft Certified Professional

>> > Microsoft MVP [Windows]

>> > http://www.microsoft.com/protect

>> >

>> > "Ushnell" wrote:

>> > >I just bought a used Gateway computer from a neighbor and I've bumped

>> > >into

>> > >a

>> > > problem that's causing myself to ask: what the hell was this person

>> > > thinking!

>> > >

>> > > The Gateway contains Windows 2000 on it on a 9.52 or 10.00 Gigabyte

>> > > hard

>> > > drive but the big mistake he made is that he created three other

>> > > partitions

>> > > on the basic disk of the drive and the main drive C:\ where Windows

>> > > stores

>> > > the software files is the one that's loosing all the storage space

>> > > and the

>> > > rest are all beefed up.

>

> I meant Windows 2000 Professional-if that doesn't matter then I have to

> tell

> you that it's the C:\ hard drive partition not having any sufficeint

> storage

> space that is preventing me from installing the service pack which I

> already

> downloaded.

>> > >

>> > > Ushnell

>> >

[Guest Dave Patrick]

Re: Hard Drive partitions

 

Yes, I understood on both counts. Did you read the article?

 

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Regards,

 

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

http://www.microsoft.com/protect

 

"Ushnell" wrote:

> I meant Windows 2000 Professional-if that doesn't matter then I have to

> tell

> you that it's the C:\ hard drive partition not having any sufficeint

> storage

> space that is preventing me from installing the service pack which I

> already

> downloaded.

[Guest Ushnell]

Re: Hard Drive partitions

 

 

 

"Dave Patrick" wrote:

> Yes, I understood on both counts. Did you read the article?

>

> --

>

> Regards,

>

> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

> Microsoft Certified Professional

> Microsoft MVP [Windows]

> http://www.microsoft.com/protect

>

> "Ushnell" wrote:

> > I meant Windows 2000 Professional-if that doesn't matter then I have to

> > tell

> > you that it's the C:\ hard drive partition not having any sufficient

> > storage

> > space that is preventing me from installing the service pack which I

> > already downloaded.

>

> Yes I did Mike but there I also bumped into a obstacle. The article seems to go through steps on how to extend the hard disk partition using the 2000 cd which I don't have in my possession and another is I can't find the winnt.ifs file it stated I have to edit with Notepad to extend the primary partition. is the file named different in the Professional version or something?

 

Ushnell

[Guest Dave Patrick]

Re: Hard Drive partitions

 

Mike?

 

Without the install CD-Rom you won't be able to accomplish the task in this

manner. You'll need to manually create winnt.sif if you're going that route.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308662/EN-US/

 

 

--

 

Regards,

 

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

http://www.microsoft.com/protect

 

"Ushnell" wrote:

>> Yes I did Mike but there I also bumped into a obstacle. The article seems

>> to go through steps on how to extend the hard disk partition using the

>> 2000 cd which I don't have in my possession and another is I can't find

>> the winnt.ifs file it stated I have to edit with Notepad to extend the

>> primary partition. is the file named different in the Professional

>> version or something?

>

> Ushnell

[Guest Ushnell]

Re: Hard Drive partitions

 

I appreciate your help Dave but I have to say that I took the route of using

the partition software BootItNG John John recommended in replying to this

post.

 

It seems that it's an extended partition that's now stealing the space of

the basic disk and the software considers it as a Master Boot Record which

makes me think if I delete it then the computer won't boot Windows 2000. is

this common?

--

Ushnell Fenell

 

 

"Dave Patrick" wrote:

> Mike?

>

> Without the install CD-Rom you won't be able to accomplish the task in this

> manner. You'll need to manually create winnt.sif if you're going that route.

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308662/EN-US/

>

>

> --

>

> Regards,

>

> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

> Microsoft Certified Professional

> Microsoft MVP [Windows]

> http://www.microsoft.com/protect

>

> "Ushnell" wrote:

> >> Yes I did Mike but there I also bumped into a obstacle. The article seems

> >> to go through steps on how to extend the hard disk partition using the

> >> 2000 cd which I don't have in my possession and another is I can't find

> >> the winnt.ifs file it stated I have to edit with Notepad to extend the

> >> primary partition. is the file named different in the Professional

> >> version or something?

> >

> > Ushnell

>

>

[Guest Ushnell]

Re: Hard Drive partitions

 

Hey there John! Thank you for referring me to using BootItNG to solve that

partition crisis I was having. I have been using it to delete those useless

partitions to merge the space of them to the C:\ drive but there's something

I need your help on if you have used BootItNG yourself. Here's the current

rundown of my partitions.

 

MBR ENTRY 0 Partition 9766 MB FAT-32

MBR ENTRY 1 Partition 8 MB EXTENDED

--------------- Volume 8 MB Free Space

BootIt EMBR Partition 8 MB BootIt EMBRM

 

As you can see, there's now only 8 megs left to allocate to the c:\ drive

but I can't seem to do it because the resize feature won't allow the size of

the extended partition to be set to 0 in space outside. one thing that I feel

warned about is if I delete the Extended partition then the volumes will be

lost which a dialog screen warns about. Is this common in using BootItNG to

edit partitions? look at the rundown above and see how you can help. Thanks!

 

Ushnell Fenell

 

 

"John John" wrote:

> Ushnell wrote:

> > I just bought a used Gateway computer from a neighbor and I've bumped into a

> > problem that's causing myself to ask: what the hell was this person thinking!

> >

> > The Gateway contains Windows 2000 on it on a 9.52 or 10.00 Gigabyte hard

> > drive but the big mistake he made is that he created three other partitions

> > on the basic disk of the drive and the main drive C:\ where Windows stores

> > the software files is the one that's loosing all the storage space and the

> > rest are all beefed up.

> >

> > I've tried to fix this problem using Disk Management in the Administrative

> > Tools section of the control panel and tried to see what happens by deleting

> > the E:\ partition. I taught the free space would go to the C:\ drive but the

> > computer considers it as free space.

> >

> > As you can see here, what I would like do to is transfer the space of those

> > partitions to the C:\ drive. any help would be appreciated.

> >

> > Ushnell

>

> You will have to use third party tools to do this, it cannot be done

> with any of the built-in Windows 2000 tools. Utilities like Partition

> Magic, Acronis Disk Director or BootItNG can do this for you. All of

> the above are commercial "pay for" utilities but Terabyte's BootItNg is

> small (fits on a floppy), well proven and free to use for 30 days. You

> don't need to install it to use it, you simply boot the computer with it

> and at the installation screen you cancel the install and the utility

> enters a maintenance mode where you will be able to do the partitioning

> work.

>

> You should be warned that while these utilities work very well and are

> for most part trouble free, any glitch while doing partitioning work can

> cause catastrophic data loss. A power failure while repartitioning the

> drive will almost certainly lead to complete loss of all the data on the

> disk, user errors can also lead to complete loss of data. Although

> these complete data losses are rare, they do happen on occasion, if you

> have valuable files on the disk make sure you have a backup before you

> do any partitioning work!

>

> John

>

[Guest John John]

Re: Hard Drive partitions

 

I wouldn't bother about it too much, it's only 8 megabytes, for all

intents and purposes the C: drive already has just about the whole disk

to itself.

 

You can probably delete the extended partition, it is probably just an

empty container, it probably doesn't contain any logical drives. Just

boot to the Windows 2000 installation and use the Disk Management tool

to have another look at the disk, you can explore the partition and see

what it holds. If it isn't the System or Boot partition you can delete

it with the Disk Management tool.

 

I see that you installed BootItNG, that was not necessary. You can

uninstall it, if you don't remove it when the trial period is over it

will start to nag you every time you start the computer, at first it

will be a short nag but as time goes by the nag time will be

increasingly longer. You can do partitioning work without installing

the program, when you boot with it at the installation screen just click

on "Cancel" and the program will go to the Maintenance Mode and you will

be able to do partitioning work.

 

You will never be able to reclaim the last free "Volume" 8 megabytes,

Windows 2000 reserves this space for the use of Dynamic Disks.

 

John

 

Ushnell wrote:

> Hey there John! Thank you for referring me to using BootItNG to solve that

> partition crisis I was having. I have been using it to delete those useless

> partitions to merge the space of them to the C:\ drive but there's something

> I need your help on if you have used BootItNG yourself. Here's the current

> rundown of my partitions.

>

> MBR ENTRY 0 Partition 9766 MB FAT-32

> MBR ENTRY 1 Partition 8 MB EXTENDED

> --------------- Volume 8 MB Free Space

> BootIt EMBR Partition 8 MB BootIt EMBRM

>

> As you can see, there's now only 8 megs left to allocate to the c:\ drive

> but I can't seem to do it because the resize feature won't allow the size of

> the extended partition to be set to 0 in space outside. one thing that I feel

> warned about is if I delete the Extended partition then the volumes will be

> lost which a dialog screen warns about. Is this common in using BootItNG to

> edit partitions? look at the rundown above and see how you can help. Thanks!

>

> Ushnell Fenell

>

>

> "John John" wrote:

>

>

>>Ushnell wrote:

>>

>>>I just bought a used Gateway computer from a neighbor and I've bumped into a

>>>problem that's causing myself to ask: what the hell was this person thinking!

>>>

>>>The Gateway contains Windows 2000 on it on a 9.52 or 10.00 Gigabyte hard

>>>drive but the big mistake he made is that he created three other partitions

>>>on the basic disk of the drive and the main drive C:\ where Windows stores

>>>the software files is the one that's loosing all the storage space and the

>>>rest are all beefed up.

>>>

>>>I've tried to fix this problem using Disk Management in the Administrative

>>>Tools section of the control panel and tried to see what happens by deleting

>>>the E:\ partition. I taught the free space would go to the C:\ drive but the

>>>computer considers it as free space.

>>>

>>>As you can see here, what I would like do to is transfer the space of those

>>>partitions to the C:\ drive. any help would be appreciated.

>>>

>>>Ushnell

>>

>>You will have to use third party tools to do this, it cannot be done

>>with any of the built-in Windows 2000 tools. Utilities like Partition

>>Magic, Acronis Disk Director or BootItNG can do this for you. All of

>>the above are commercial "pay for" utilities but Terabyte's BootItNg is

>>small (fits on a floppy), well proven and free to use for 30 days. You

>>don't need to install it to use it, you simply boot the computer with it

>>and at the installation screen you cancel the install and the utility

>>enters a maintenance mode where you will be able to do the partitioning

>>work.

>>

>>You should be warned that while these utilities work very well and are

>>for most part trouble free, any glitch while doing partitioning work can

>>cause catastrophic data loss. A power failure while repartitioning the

>>drive will almost certainly lead to complete loss of all the data on the

>>disk, user errors can also lead to complete loss of data. Although

>>these complete data losses are rare, they do happen on occasion, if you

>>have valuable files on the disk make sure you have a backup before you

>>do any partitioning work!

>>

>>John

>>