second ethernet card

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Hey all again.....

>

> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte

> motherboard,

> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically get

> an

> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an

> inhouse

> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..

>

> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the 64bit

> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI Express

> slot

> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics

> 10/100/1000

>

> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device

> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....

>

> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net

> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router, so

> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...

>

> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting of

> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130

>

> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to

> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130

>

> I have tried several different options to get this to work...

>

> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with network

> stuff...

>

> any help with this would be appreciated...

>

> Thanks in advance

November 15, 2007

Re: second ethernet card

Thanks a million..... that worked....

JT

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question. Would

> be the same in 32-bit Windows.

> That being said, there are several possibilities:

>

> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal cables

> expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment on the

> network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are directly

> connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them, unless one of

> the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection light? What is the

> status of the connection in XP?

>

> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your original

> NIC. That's bad and won't work.

>

> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a completely

> different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either change the ip

> addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can change the

> addresses being handed out and used by the router and the original NIC.

> Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP is set to

> 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same subnet you'll end

> up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to use to reach the equipment

> and will try to default to the original one. By using fixed IP addresses in

> a different subnet you solve that.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...

> > Hey all again.....

> >

> > I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte

> > motherboard,

> > 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically get

> > an

> > IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an

> > inhouse

> > network.. I access the internet thru this controller..

> >

> > I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the 64bit

> > OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI Express

> > slot

> > to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics

> > 10/100/1000

> >

> > I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device

> > manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....

> >

> > what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net

> > connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router, so

> > opted to go direct from an ethernet card...

> >

> > the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting of

> > 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130

> >

> > my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to

> > 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130

> >

> > I have tried several different options to get this to work...

> >

> > Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with network

> > stuff...

> >

> > any help with this would be appreciated...

> >

> > Thanks in advance

>

November 15, 2007

Re: second ethernet card

Hi Charly,

I think most Gig-Lan cards do support Auto-MDI-X with support for Cross Over

/ Straight Throug cabling.

regards jk

November 15, 2007

Re: second ethernet card

Many do. I have no idea if the US Robotics one does. IAC, I prefer to answer

with as general an answer as possible, since this is a one to many

environment and others read the answers and can learn. So I wanted to

provide guidance that would cover a broader range of problems that might be

related.

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Juergen Kluth" <jkluth@t-onlinr.de> wrote in message

news:ub1uBo3JIHA.3516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Hi Charly,

> I think most Gig-Lan cards do support Auto-MDI-X with support for Cross

> Over / Straight Throug cabling.

> regards jk

>

November 15, 2007

Re: second ethernet card

Charlie,

Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network

Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I misunderstand the

OP?

Drew

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...

> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question.

> Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.

> That being said, there are several possibilities:

>

> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal

> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment on

> the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are directly

> connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them, unless one

> of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection light? What is the

> status of the connection in XP?

>

> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your original

> NIC. That's bad and won't work.

>

> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a

> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either change

> the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can change the

> addresses being handed out and used by the router and the original NIC.

> Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP is set to

> 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same subnet you'll end

> up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to use to reach the

> equipment and will try to default to the original one. By using fixed IP

> addresses in a different subnet you solve that.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...

>> Hey all again.....

>>

>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte

>> motherboard,

>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically get

>> an

>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an

>> inhouse

>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..

>>

>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the

>> 64bit

>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI Express

>> slot

>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics

>> 10/100/1000

>>

>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device

>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....

>>

>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net

>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router, so

>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...

>>

>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting of

>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130

>>

>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to

>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130

>>

>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...

>>

>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with network

>> stuff...

>>

>> any help with this would be appreciated...

>>

>> Thanks in advance

>

November 15, 2007

Re: second ethernet card

Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's NEVER a

good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is still present in

the machine.

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message

news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Charlie,

>

> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network

> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I misunderstand

> the OP?

>

> Drew

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...

>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question.

>> Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.

>> That being said, there are several possibilities:

>>

>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal

>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment on

>> the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are

>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them,

>> unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection light?

>> What is the status of the connection in XP?

>>

>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your original

>> NIC. That's bad and won't work.

>>

>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a

>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either

>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can

>> change the addresses being handed out and used by the router and the

>> original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP is

>> set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same subnet

>> you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to use to reach

>> the equipment and will try to default to the original one. By using fixed

>> IP addresses in a different subnet you solve that.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...

>>> Hey all again.....

>>>

>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte

>>> motherboard,

>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically get

>>> an

>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an

>>> inhouse

>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..

>>>

>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the

>>> 64bit

>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI Express

>>> slot

>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics

>>> 10/100/1000

>>>

>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device

>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....

>>>

>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net

>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router, so

>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...

>>>

>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting of

>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130

>>>

>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to

>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130

>>>

>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...

>>>

>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with

>>> network

>>> stuff...

>>>

>>> any help with this would be appreciated...

>>>

>>> Thanks in advance

>>

>

November 15, 2007

Re: second ethernet card

So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done that

before w/o any problems.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...

> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's NEVER

> a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is still

> present in the machine.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message

> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Charlie,

>>

>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network

>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I misunderstand

>> the OP?

>>

>> Drew

>>

>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

>> news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...

>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question.

>>> Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.

>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:

>>>

>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal

>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment on

>>> the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are

>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them,

>>> unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection light?

>>> What is the status of the connection in XP?

>>>

>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your

>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.

>>>

>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a

>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either

>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can

>>> change the addresses being handed out and used by the router and the

>>> original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP is

>>> set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same subnet

>>> you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to use to

>>> reach the equipment and will try to default to the original one. By

>>> using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve that.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Charlie.

>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>

>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...

>>>> Hey all again.....

>>>>

>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte

>>>> motherboard,

>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically

>>>> get an

>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an

>>>> inhouse

>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..

>>>>

>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the

>>>> 64bit

>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI

>>>> Express slot

>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics

>>>> 10/100/1000

>>>>

>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device

>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....

>>>>

>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net

>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router,

>>>> so

>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...

>>>>

>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting of

>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130

>>>>

>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to

>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130

>>>>

>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...

>>>>

>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with

>>>> network

>>>> stuff...

>>>>

>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...

>>>>

>>>> Thanks in advance

>>>

>>

>

November 15, 2007

Re: second ethernet card

yes. But why? He still needs to connect to the router, he gains nothing by

trying to reuse that same address, and the next time he flashes his BIOS

he's got a conflict. And if that's 6 months from now, will he remember that

they have the same address? And all this to gain what, exactly?

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message

news:%23w8fLb8JIHA.6008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done that

> before w/o any problems.

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...

>> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's NEVER

>> a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is still

>> present in the machine.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message

>> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Charlie,

>>>

>>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network

>>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I misunderstand

>>> the OP?

>>>

>>> Drew

>>>

>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>> message news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...

>>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question.

>>>> Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.

>>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:

>>>>

>>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal

>>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment

>>>> on the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are

>>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them,

>>>> unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection

>>>> light? What is the status of the connection in XP?

>>>>

>>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your

>>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.

>>>>

>>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a

>>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either

>>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can

>>>> change the addresses being handed out and used by the router and the

>>>> original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP is

>>>> set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same subnet

>>>> you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to use to

>>>> reach the equipment and will try to default to the original one. By

>>>> using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve that.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Charlie.

>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>

>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Hey all again.....

>>>>>

>>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte

>>>>> motherboard,

>>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically

>>>>> get an

>>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an

>>>>> inhouse

>>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..

>>>>>

>>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the

>>>>> 64bit

>>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI

>>>>> Express slot

>>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics

>>>>> 10/100/1000

>>>>>

>>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device

>>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....

>>>>>

>>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net

>>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router,

>>>>> so

>>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...

>>>>>

>>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting

>>>>> of

>>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130

>>>>>

>>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to

>>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130

>>>>>

>>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...

>>>>>

>>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with

>>>>> network

>>>>> stuff...

>>>>>

>>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks in advance

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

November 16, 2007

Re: second ethernet card

So the question is why is the IP being used??? OK, good comment then. <VBG>

However, I have done this and it's been more than 6 months and the Bios has

been flashed and there were NO ill effects. <VBG> (for me) Sorry Charlie...

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:8CF1B131-4656-4660-B3A1-0B07B8DD88F0@microsoft.com...

> yes. But why? He still needs to connect to the router, he gains nothing by

> trying to reuse that same address, and the next time he flashes his BIOS

> he's got a conflict. And if that's 6 months from now, will he remember

> that they have the same address? And all this to gain what, exactly?

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message

> news:%23w8fLb8JIHA.6008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done that

>> before w/o any problems.

>>

>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

>> news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...

>>> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's

>>> NEVER a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is

>>> still present in the machine.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Charlie.

>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>

>>> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message

>>> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Charlie,

>>>>

>>>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network

>>>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I

>>>> misunderstand the OP?

>>>>

>>>> Drew

>>>>

>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>>> message news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...

>>>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking question.

>>>>> Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.

>>>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:

>>>>>

>>>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal

>>>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment

>>>>> on the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are

>>>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between them,

>>>>> unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a connection

>>>>> light? What is the status of the connection in XP?

>>>>>

>>>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your

>>>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.

>>>>>

>>>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a

>>>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either

>>>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you can

>>>>> change the addresses being handed out and used by the router and the

>>>>> original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment IP

>>>>> is set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same

>>>>> subnet you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to

>>>>> use to reach the equipment and will try to default to the original

>>>>> one. By using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve that.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Charlie.

>>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>>

>>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> Hey all again.....

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte

>>>>>> motherboard,

>>>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically

>>>>>> get an

>>>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an

>>>>>> inhouse

>>>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the

>>>>>> 64bit

>>>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI

>>>>>> Express slot

>>>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics

>>>>>> 10/100/1000

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the device

>>>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....

>>>>>>

>>>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a net

>>>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the router,

>>>>>> so

>>>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting

>>>>>> of

>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130

>>>>>>

>>>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to

>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with

>>>>>> network

>>>>>> stuff...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks in advance

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

November 16, 2007

Re: second ethernet card

you must have one of those lucky BIOS's that will flash without resetting to

default. Heck, every time most ASUS mobos get flashed their USB reverts to

1.1 speed. :(

And yes, I'd expect you to remember and deal with it. ;)

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message

news:%23WRD0R$JIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> So the question is why is the IP being used??? OK, good comment then.

> <VBG>

>

> However, I have done this and it's been more than 6 months and the Bios

> has been flashed and there were NO ill effects. <VBG> (for me) Sorry

> Charlie...

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:8CF1B131-4656-4660-B3A1-0B07B8DD88F0@microsoft.com...

>> yes. But why? He still needs to connect to the router, he gains nothing

>> by trying to reuse that same address, and the next time he flashes his

>> BIOS he's got a conflict. And if that's 6 months from now, will he

>> remember that they have the same address? And all this to gain what,

>> exactly?

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message

>> news:%23w8fLb8JIHA.6008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done that

>>> before w/o any problems.

>>>

>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>> message news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...

>>>> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's

>>>> NEVER a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is

>>>> still present in the machine.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Charlie.

>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>

>>>> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message

>>>> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Charlie,

>>>>>

>>>>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network

>>>>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I

>>>>> misunderstand the OP?

>>>>>

>>>>> Drew

>>>>>

>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>>>> message news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking

>>>>>> question. Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.

>>>>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal

>>>>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment

>>>>>> on the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are

>>>>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between

>>>>>> them, unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a

>>>>>> connection light? What is the status of the connection in XP?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your

>>>>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a

>>>>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either

>>>>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you

>>>>>> can change the addresses being handed out and used by the router and

>>>>>> the original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment

>>>>>> IP is set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same

>>>>>> subnet you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to

>>>>>> use to reach the equipment and will try to default to the original

>>>>>> one. By using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve

>>>>>> that.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Charlie.

>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> Hey all again.....

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte

>>>>>>> motherboard,

>>>>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically

>>>>>>> get an

>>>>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an

>>>>>>> inhouse

>>>>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the

>>>>>>> 64bit

>>>>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI

>>>>>>> Express slot

>>>>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics

>>>>>>> 10/100/1000

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the

>>>>>>> device

>>>>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a

>>>>>>> net

>>>>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the

>>>>>>> router, so

>>>>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting

>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to

>>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with

>>>>>>> network

>>>>>>> stuff...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks in advance

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

November 16, 2007

Re: second ethernet card

Charlie:

I have not used ASUS mobos lately but I can recall that there was a Windows

utility (ASUSUpdate) that could be used to download new BIOSes and flash from

within Windows.

That program had an option for retaining your current settings or resetting

them to their default.

I always opted for retaining my settings and never had any issues with that.

Don't know whether that utility runs in Vista.

Just saw an update of it (if you feel like trying) in http://www.station-drivers.com

Carlos

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> you must have one of those lucky BIOS's that will flash without resetting to

> default. Heck, every time most ASUS mobos get flashed their USB reverts to

> 1.1 speed. :(

>

> And yes, I'd expect you to remember and deal with it. ;)

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message

> news:%23WRD0R$JIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > So the question is why is the IP being used??? OK, good comment then.

> > <VBG>

> >

> > However, I have done this and it's been more than 6 months and the Bios

> > has been flashed and there were NO ill effects. <VBG> (for me) Sorry

> > Charlie...

> >

> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> > news:8CF1B131-4656-4660-B3A1-0B07B8DD88F0@microsoft.com...

> >> yes. But why? He still needs to connect to the router, he gains nothing

> >> by trying to reuse that same address, and the next time he flashes his

> >> BIOS he's got a conflict. And if that's 6 months from now, will he

> >> remember that they have the same address? And all this to gain what,

> >> exactly?

> >>

> >> --

> >> Charlie.

> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >>

> >> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message

> >> news:%23w8fLb8JIHA.6008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>> So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done that

> >>> before w/o any problems.

> >>>

> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

> >>> message news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...

> >>>> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's

> >>>> NEVER a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is

> >>>> still present in the machine.

> >>>>

> >>>> --

> >>>> Charlie.

> >>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> >>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >>>>

> >>>> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message

> >>>> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >>>>> Charlie,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network

> >>>>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I

> >>>>> misunderstand the OP?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Drew

> >>>>>

> >>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

> >>>>> message news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...

> >>>>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking

> >>>>>> question. Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.

> >>>>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card. Normal

> >>>>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other equipment

> >>>>>> on the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two are

> >>>>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between

> >>>>>> them, unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a

> >>>>>> connection light? What is the status of the connection in XP?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your

> >>>>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a

> >>>>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can either

> >>>>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you

> >>>>>> can change the addresses being handed out and used by the router and

> >>>>>> the original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the equipment

> >>>>>> IP is set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the same

> >>>>>> subnet you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC to

> >>>>>> use to reach the equipment and will try to default to the original

> >>>>>> one. By using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve

> >>>>>> that.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> --

> >>>>>> Charlie.

> >>>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> >>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >>>>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...

> >>>>>>> Hey all again.....

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte

> >>>>>>> motherboard,

> >>>>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to automatically

> >>>>>>> get an

> >>>>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have an

> >>>>>>> inhouse

> >>>>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with the

> >>>>>>> 64bit

> >>>>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI

> >>>>>>> Express slot

> >>>>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A USrobotics

> >>>>>>> 10/100/1000

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the

> >>>>>>> device

> >>>>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working correctly....

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a

> >>>>>>> net

> >>>>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the

> >>>>>>> router, so

> >>>>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a setting

> >>>>>>> of

> >>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card to

> >>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with

> >>>>>>> network

> >>>>>>> stuff...

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>

> >

>

November 16, 2007

Re: second ethernet card

Yep, have used that for various mobos.

However, AFTER flashing I always go thru the Bios to ensure the settings are

the way 'they should be'.

Cheers!

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:5807B2FB-DED8-4CDF-8EA9-08DC2DFEFAED@microsoft.com...

> Charlie:

> I have not used ASUS mobos lately but I can recall that there was a

> Windows

> utility (ASUSUpdate) that could be used to download new BIOSes and flash

> from

> within Windows.

> That program had an option for retaining your current settings or

> resetting

> them to their default.

> I always opted for retaining my settings and never had any issues with

> that.

> Don't know whether that utility runs in Vista.

> Just saw an update of it (if you feel like trying) in

> http://www.station-drivers.com

>

> Carlos

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

>

>> you must have one of those lucky BIOS's that will flash without resetting

>> to

>> default. Heck, every time most ASUS mobos get flashed their USB reverts

>> to

>> 1.1 speed. :(

>>

>> And yes, I'd expect you to remember and deal with it. ;)

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message

>> news:%23WRD0R$JIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> > So the question is why is the IP being used??? OK, good comment then.

>> > <VBG>

>> >

>> > However, I have done this and it's been more than 6 months and the Bios

>> > has been flashed and there were NO ill effects. <VBG> (for me) Sorry

>> > Charlie...

>> >

>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>> > message

>> > news:8CF1B131-4656-4660-B3A1-0B07B8DD88F0@microsoft.com...

>> >> yes. But why? He still needs to connect to the router, he gains

>> >> nothing

>> >> by trying to reuse that same address, and the next time he flashes his

>> >> BIOS he's got a conflict. And if that's 6 months from now, will he

>> >> remember that they have the same address? And all this to gain what,

>> >> exactly?

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Charlie.

>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >>

>> >> "Gary J. Dikkema" <gary_d@cdir.ca> wrote in message

>> >> news:%23w8fLb8JIHA.6008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >>> So then, go into the Bios and disable the onboard nic... I've done

>> >>> that

>> >>> before w/o any problems.

>> >>>

>> >>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>> >>> message news:0937563A-A42A-4253-BBA2-4685B3388379@microsoft.com...

>> >>>> Then the computer would lose connectivity with the router. And it's

>> >>>> NEVER a good idea to try to reuse an IP address from a card that is

>> >>>> still present in the machine.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> --

>> >>>> Charlie.

>> >>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> >>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >>>>

>> >>>> "Drew" <dam@dam.dam> wrote in message

>> >>>> news:eIR9Hb7JIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >>>>> Charlie,

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> Couldn't you just disable the original onboard NIC through Network

>> >>>>> Connections and use the same IP on the new card? Or did I

>> >>>>> misunderstand the OP?

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> Drew

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>> >>>>> message news:CCC8BA28-68C4-4E1E-AFED-E4E089DC4265@microsoft.com...

>> >>>>>> This isn't really a 64-bit question - it's a pure networking

>> >>>>>> question. Would be the same in 32-bit Windows.

>> >>>>>> That being said, there are several possibilities:

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> 1.) you say you connected the equipment directly to the card.

>> >>>>>> Normal

>> >>>>>> cables expect to connect to a hub/switch and have the other

>> >>>>>> equipment

>> >>>>>> on the network connect to another port on the switch. If the two

>> >>>>>> are

>> >>>>>> directly connected, they need to have a cross-over cable between

>> >>>>>> them, unless one of the NICs is "autosensing". Do you have a

>> >>>>>> connection light? What is the status of the connection in XP?

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> 2.) You can't put this second NIC at the same IP address as your

>> >>>>>> original NIC. That's bad and won't work.

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> 3.) You should really have the equipment and the second NIC on a

>> >>>>>> completely different subnet (range of IP addresses). You can

>> >>>>>> either

>> >>>>>> change the ip addresses used by the 2nd NIC and the device, or you

>> >>>>>> can change the addresses being handed out and used by the router

>> >>>>>> and

>> >>>>>> the original NIC. Change the 2nd NIC to 192.168.10.120, the

>> >>>>>> equipment

>> >>>>>> IP is set to 192.168.10.130. If you try to have them both on the

>> >>>>>> same

>> >>>>>> subnet you'll end up with issues as Windows won't know which NIC

>> >>>>>> to

>> >>>>>> use to reach the equipment and will try to default to the original

>> >>>>>> one. By using fixed IP addresses in a different subnet you solve

>> >>>>>> that.

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> --

>> >>>>>> Charlie.

>> >>>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> >>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >>>>>> news:7302A32F-D3D6-4878-9824-C131059DE413@microsoft.com...

>> >>>>>>> Hey all again.....

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> I have a windows XP 64 bit with dual processor (intel) gigabyte

>> >>>>>>> motherboard,

>> >>>>>>> 4gigs ram, onboard bigabyte ethernet controller set to

>> >>>>>>> automatically

>> >>>>>>> get an

>> >>>>>>> IP address, this card is connected to my 4 port routher and have

>> >>>>>>> an

>> >>>>>>> inhouse

>> >>>>>>> network.. I access the internet thru this controller..

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> I have finally found a PCI ethernet card that is compatable with

>> >>>>>>> the

>> >>>>>>> 64bit

>> >>>>>>> OS.. There are several out there that are 64bit but need the PCI

>> >>>>>>> Express slot

>> >>>>>>> to work...this one works with the standard PCI slot.. A

>> >>>>>>> USrobotics

>> >>>>>>> 10/100/1000

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> I have install the card and the software and it show up in the

>> >>>>>>> device

>> >>>>>>> manager and everywhere else.. and says it is working

>> >>>>>>> correctly....

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> what Im doing with it is running a piece of equipment that uses a

>> >>>>>>> net

>> >>>>>>> connection, I was getting some screwy communications thru the

>> >>>>>>> router, so

>> >>>>>>> opted to go direct from an ethernet card...

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> the equipment runs perfectly from the onboard adaptor with a

>> >>>>>>> setting

>> >>>>>>> of

>> >>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, the equipment IP is set to 192.168.0.130

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> my problem is....I have set up the TCP/IP on the added 64bit card

>> >>>>>>> to

>> >>>>>>> 192.168.0.120, my equipment is set to 192.168.0.130

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> I have tried several different options to get this to work...

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> Not sure what to do here.. im an end user and not that great with

>> >>>>>>> network

>> >>>>>>> stuff...

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> any help with this would be appreciated...

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>

>> >>

>> >

>>

November 16, 2007

Re: second ethernet card

Oh, yes, I've used that utility. It never actually managed to save them all.

I always end up having to check the settings anyway.

Oh, and yes, I'm pretty sure it runs in Vista.

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:5807B2FB-DED8-4CDF-8EA9-08DC2DFEFAED@microsoft.com...

> Charlie:

> I have not used ASUS mobos lately but I can recall that there was a

> Windows

> utility (ASUSUpdate) that could be used to download new BIOSes and flash

> from

> within Windows.

> That program had an option for retaining your current settings or

> resetting

> them to their default.

> I always opted for retaining my settings and never had any issues with

> that.

> Don't know whether that utility runs in Vista.

> Just saw an update of it (if you feel like trying) in

> http://www.station-drivers.com

>

> Carlos

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

>

>> you must have one of those lucky BIOS's that will flash without resetting

>> to

>> default. Heck, every time most ASUS mobos get flashed their USB reverts

>> to

>> 1.1 speed. :(

>>

>> And yes, I'd expect you to remember and deal with it. ;)

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.