OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

November 23, 2007

RE: OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

Charlie,

These are the news, I will try to make a summary.

154 passengers were rescued from the british cruise in the Antarctica.

They were rescued form the cold waters of the Antarctic Ocean after the ship

would hit an iceberg at dawn.

The Ushuaia division of the Marine Corps was contacted by the ship's captain

asking for help.

The ship's last stop had been in Ushuaia on Nov 10th.

All passengers are safe in their lifeboats and close to the Bahamas ship

Antarctic Dreams.

They will probably be taken to Ushuaia.

After the crash, after 7 AM (GMT -3 Bs.As. Georgetown), the ship had a 22

degree inclination ("escora") and was adrift 570 miles away from Ushuaia,

close to the Antarctic Peninsula.

After the SOS alert, the Ushuaia Marine Corps located the closest ships

(both Bahamas ships Antarctic Dream and Endeavour, both scientific ships),

being the Antarctic Dream one hour away from the shipwreck.

The ship had been built in 1969 and refurbished in 1993.

It used to make to travels to Antarctica per week, being the cost of the

ticket around 4,000 sterling pounds per cabin.

This is the link for the news in Spanish:

http://www.tierradelfuego.info/index.php?s=!notas-ver$$$WW9111if5avdgbajlojeuz&l=es&referer=9noY8pIgcJbEBT3%2BeD1EfV7OvGu1%2FAx0EjHsaWXUsgPJTujbkfVN4u0GVn2uJ04zwIXBd9UDpqSTmmMfyU4dhf4%3D%5E_933

Another source (http://www.sur54.com/individual.asp?type=1&id=18837) reports

that they will be taken to the chilean base Frei and later on, by plane, to

the city of Punta Arenas (same latitud as Rio Grande), but in Chile, west

side of the island were I live.

It is still not confirmed that the ship will actually shrink. Structural

damage has not been quantified yet.

There are passengers from Germany, China, Canada, and Argentina.

Carlos

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> Carlos - any updates that you've heard from down there on the fate of the MV

> Explorer? The last I heard up here is that she was listing ~40 degrees and

> was about 850 kilometers SE of Ushuaia.

>

> We once did a simply wonderful vacation on that great old ship, 18 days in

> the Malvinas and Antarctica. That was 7 years ago, while she was still owned

> by Abercrombie and Kent. I'd truly hate to hear she'd sunk - she deserves

> better. Hardly a youngster, especially for a ship plying the kinds of waters

> she does, but she did well by us and was a perfect size for Antarctica.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

November 23, 2007

RE: OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

Charlie,

Here: http://www.clarin.com/diario/2007/11/23/um/m-01547183.htm

you will find photos and videos.

Passenger composition:

23 british, 17 dutch, 13 USA, 10 australias, 10 canadians, 4 irish, 2

danish, 2 belgian, 2 argentinean, 2 Hong Kong, 1 swis, 1 french, 1 german, 1

japanese, 1 colombian y 1 swedish. They left the ship in 8 semi rigid Zodiac

boats and 4 rafts.

Captain and 6 crewmembers also left the ship.

The (Spanish) link I provided is more comprehensive than the others I posted

before.

Carlos

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> Carlos - any updates that you've heard from down there on the fate of the MV

> Explorer? The last I heard up here is that she was listing ~40 degrees and

> was about 850 kilometers SE of Ushuaia.

>

> We once did a simply wonderful vacation on that great old ship, 18 days in

> the Malvinas and Antarctica. That was 7 years ago, while she was still owned

> by Abercrombie and Kent. I'd truly hate to hear she'd sunk - she deserves

> better. Hardly a youngster, especially for a ship plying the kinds of waters

> she does, but she did well by us and was a perfect size for Antarctica.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

November 23, 2007

Re: OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

Thanks, Carlos. "The little red ship", as she was known to those of us

who've sailed on her, was a wonderful ship. She was originally the "Lindblad

Explorer", and was the first purpose-built expedition cruise ship. Not fancy

by any means, but well designed for the kinds of cruising she did. I'm

astonished and truly saddened to think that she may not survive this. We

were on her over the holidays and the Millenium in 1999-2000, and I have

fond memories of her. Coming back from expeditions onto the Antarctic

continent and being greeted by a big bowl of hot cider, or going in to the

dining room and having Gabor telling us about the day's soup "just like my

grandmother used to make".

Clearly from the reports the crew did an excellent job of getting folks off

in a safe and timely manner. Not surprising - what always struck me about

her was that the crew were _very_ experienced and a really "happy ship". Of

course that was under different owners, but I suspect some of the crew were

still the same.

Also, clearly, the various vessels and emergency response teams in the area

have done an excellent job of responding in a coordinated and effective way.

My thanks to them for a job well done - any time you have to evacuate a ship

in sub-zero conditions the risks are significant.

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:3BFEBF86-8068-4F5C-836E-6A05C110C4E9@microsoft.com...

> Charlie,

> These are the news, I will try to make a summary.

> 154 passengers were rescued from the british cruise in the Antarctica.

> They were rescued form the cold waters of the Antarctic Ocean after the

> ship

> would hit an iceberg at dawn.

> The Ushuaia division of the Marine Corps was contacted by the ship's

> captain

> asking for help.

> The ship's last stop had been in Ushuaia on Nov 10th.

> All passengers are safe in their lifeboats and close to the Bahamas ship

> Antarctic Dreams.

> They will probably be taken to Ushuaia.

> After the crash, after 7 AM (GMT -3 Bs.As. Georgetown), the ship had a 22

> degree inclination ("escora") and was adrift 570 miles away from Ushuaia,

> close to the Antarctic Peninsula.

> After the SOS alert, the Ushuaia Marine Corps located the closest ships

> (both Bahamas ships Antarctic Dream and Endeavour, both scientific ships),

> being the Antarctic Dream one hour away from the shipwreck.

> The ship had been built in 1969 and refurbished in 1993.

> It used to make to travels to Antarctica per week, being the cost of the

> ticket around 4,000 sterling pounds per cabin.

>

> This is the link for the news in Spanish:

> http://www.tierradelfuego.info/index.php?s=!notas-ver$$$WW9111if5avdgbajlojeuz&l=es&referer=9noY8pIgcJbEBT3%2BeD1EfV7OvGu1%2FAx0EjHsaWXUsgPJTujbkfVN4u0GVn2uJ04zwIXBd9UDpqSTmmMfyU4dhf4%3D%5E_933

>

> Another source (http://www.sur54.com/individual.asp?type=1&id=18837)

> reports

> that they will be taken to the chilean base Frei and later on, by plane,

> to

> the city of Punta Arenas (same latitud as Rio Grande), but in Chile, west

> side of the island were I live.

> It is still not confirmed that the ship will actually shrink. Structural

> damage has not been quantified yet.

> There are passengers from Germany, China, Canada, and Argentina.

> Carlos

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

>

>> Carlos - any updates that you've heard from down there on the fate of the

>> MV

>> Explorer? The last I heard up here is that she was listing ~40 degrees

>> and

>> was about 850 kilometers SE of Ushuaia.

>>

>> We once did a simply wonderful vacation on that great old ship, 18 days

>> in

>> the Malvinas and Antarctica. That was 7 years ago, while she was still

>> owned

>> by Abercrombie and Kent. I'd truly hate to hear she'd sunk - she deserves

>> better. Hardly a youngster, especially for a ship plying the kinds of

>> waters

>> she does, but she did well by us and was a perfect size for Antarctica.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

November 23, 2007

Re: OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

Last I heard, everybody was taken on-board a Norwegian ship that then sailed

away to spare the passengers the experience of seeing her go down, while an

Argentinian vessel stayed on the spot. Although, personally, it didn't

strike me as though the amount of listing had gotten worse over the past 4 -

5 hours, I also don't know how old that last piece of film was, it could of

course be the same shot that was running.

And we had three people from Denmark among the adventurous!

Tony. . .

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:3BFEBF86-8068-4F5C-836E-6A05C110C4E9@microsoft.com...

> Charlie,

> These are the news, I will try to make a summary.

> 154 passengers were rescued from the british cruise in the Antarctica.

> They were rescued form the cold waters of the Antarctic Ocean after the

> ship

> would hit an iceberg at dawn.

> The Ushuaia division of the Marine Corps was contacted by the ship's

> captain

> asking for help.

> The ship's last stop had been in Ushuaia on Nov 10th.

> All passengers are safe in their lifeboats and close to the Bahamas ship

> Antarctic Dreams.

> They will probably be taken to Ushuaia.

> After the crash, after 7 AM (GMT -3 Bs.As. Georgetown), the ship had a 22

> degree inclination ("escora") and was adrift 570 miles away from Ushuaia,

> close to the Antarctic Peninsula.

> After the SOS alert, the Ushuaia Marine Corps located the closest ships

> (both Bahamas ships Antarctic Dream and Endeavour, both scientific ships),

> being the Antarctic Dream one hour away from the shipwreck.

> The ship had been built in 1969 and refurbished in 1993.

> It used to make to travels to Antarctica per week, being the cost of the

> ticket around 4,000 sterling pounds per cabin.

>

> This is the link for the news in Spanish:

> http://www.tierradelfuego.info/index.php?s=!notas-ver$$$WW9111if5avdgbajlojeuz&l=es&referer=9noY8pIgcJbEBT3%2BeD1EfV7OvGu1%2FAx0EjHsaWXUsgPJTujbkfVN4u0GVn2uJ04zwIXBd9UDpqSTmmMfyU4dhf4%3D%5E_933

>

> Another source (http://www.sur54.com/individual.asp?type=1&id=18837)

> reports

> that they will be taken to the chilean base Frei and later on, by plane,

> to

> the city of Punta Arenas (same latitud as Rio Grande), but in Chile, west

> side of the island were I live.

> It is still not confirmed that the ship will actually shrink. Structural

> damage has not been quantified yet.

> There are passengers from Germany, China, Canada, and Argentina.

> Carlos

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

>

>> Carlos - any updates that you've heard from down there on the fate of the

>> MV

>> Explorer? The last I heard up here is that she was listing ~40 degrees

>> and

>> was about 850 kilometers SE of Ushuaia.

>>

>> We once did a simply wonderful vacation on that great old ship, 18 days

>> in

>> the Malvinas and Antarctica. That was 7 years ago, while she was still

>> owned

>> by Abercrombie and Kent. I'd truly hate to hear she'd sunk - she deserves

>> better. Hardly a youngster, especially for a ship plying the kinds of

>> waters

>> she does, but she did well by us and was a perfect size for Antarctica.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

November 23, 2007

Re: OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

Charlie,

Just a quick update I heard on the radio.

The passengers have reached the port in the Shetland Islands, chilean base

Frei.

(Shetland Islands were also part of the Argentina-UK war for the Malvinas

back in 1982).

The ship's inclination is stable between 40 a 45 degrees.

Divers had been dispatched and evaluate if repair is possible.

The ship might finally be saved.

Carlos

P.S.: Thanks for using "Malvinas" instead of... well, you know the other name.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> Thanks, Carlos. "The little red ship", as she was known to those of us

> who've sailed on her, was a wonderful ship. She was originally the "Lindblad

> Explorer", and was the first purpose-built expedition cruise ship. Not fancy

> by any means, but well designed for the kinds of cruising she did. I'm

> astonished and truly saddened to think that she may not survive this. We

> were on her over the holidays and the Millenium in 1999-2000, and I have

> fond memories of her. Coming back from expeditions onto the Antarctic

> continent and being greeted by a big bowl of hot cider, or going in to the

> dining room and having Gabor telling us about the day's soup "just like my

> grandmother used to make".

>

> Clearly from the reports the crew did an excellent job of getting folks off

> in a safe and timely manner. Not surprising - what always struck me about

> her was that the crew were _very_ experienced and a really "happy ship". Of

> course that was under different owners, but I suspect some of the crew were

> still the same.

>

> Also, clearly, the various vessels and emergency response teams in the area

> have done an excellent job of responding in a coordinated and effective way.

> My thanks to them for a job well done - any time you have to evacuate a ship

> in sub-zero conditions the risks are significant.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:3BFEBF86-8068-4F5C-836E-6A05C110C4E9@microsoft.com...

> > Charlie,

> > These are the news, I will try to make a summary.

> > 154 passengers were rescued from the british cruise in the Antarctica.

> > They were rescued form the cold waters of the Antarctic Ocean after the

> > ship

> > would hit an iceberg at dawn.

> > The Ushuaia division of the Marine Corps was contacted by the ship's

> > captain

> > asking for help.

> > The ship's last stop had been in Ushuaia on Nov 10th.

> > All passengers are safe in their lifeboats and close to the Bahamas ship

> > Antarctic Dreams.

> > They will probably be taken to Ushuaia.

> > After the crash, after 7 AM (GMT -3 Bs.As. Georgetown), the ship had a 22

> > degree inclination ("escora") and was adrift 570 miles away from Ushuaia,

> > close to the Antarctic Peninsula.

> > After the SOS alert, the Ushuaia Marine Corps located the closest ships

> > (both Bahamas ships Antarctic Dream and Endeavour, both scientific ships),

> > being the Antarctic Dream one hour away from the shipwreck.

> > The ship had been built in 1969 and refurbished in 1993.

> > It used to make to travels to Antarctica per week, being the cost of the

> > ticket around 4,000 sterling pounds per cabin.

> >

> > This is the link for the news in Spanish:

> > http://www.tierradelfuego.info/index.php?s=!notas-ver$$$WW9111if5avdgbajlojeuz&l=es&referer=9noY8pIgcJbEBT3%2BeD1EfV7OvGu1%2FAx0EjHsaWXUsgPJTujbkfVN4u0GVn2uJ04zwIXBd9UDpqSTmmMfyU4dhf4%3D%5E_933

> >

> > Another source (http://www.sur54.com/individual.asp?type=1&id=18837)

> > reports

> > that they will be taken to the chilean base Frei and later on, by plane,

> > to

> > the city of Punta Arenas (same latitud as Rio Grande), but in Chile, west

> > side of the island were I live.

> > It is still not confirmed that the ship will actually shrink. Structural

> > damage has not been quantified yet.

> > There are passengers from Germany, China, Canada, and Argentina.

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> >

> >> Carlos - any updates that you've heard from down there on the fate of the

> >> MV

> >> Explorer? The last I heard up here is that she was listing ~40 degrees

> >> and

> >> was about 850 kilometers SE of Ushuaia.

> >>

> >> We once did a simply wonderful vacation on that great old ship, 18 days

> >> in

> >> the Malvinas and Antarctica. That was 7 years ago, while she was still

> >> owned

> >> by Abercrombie and Kent. I'd truly hate to hear she'd sunk - she deserves

> >> better. Hardly a youngster, especially for a ship plying the kinds of

> >> waters

> >> she does, but she did well by us and was a perfect size for Antarctica.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Charlie.

> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >>

>

November 23, 2007

Re: OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

Reading your post, now I know that were not among the three from Denmark.

:)

And our two canadian buddies (Charlie and Kue2) seem also to be safe at home.

Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Last I heard, everybody was taken on-board a Norwegian ship that then sailed

> away to spare the passengers the experience of seeing her go down, while an

> Argentinian vessel stayed on the spot. Although, personally, it didn't

> strike me as though the amount of listing had gotten worse over the past 4 -

> 5 hours, I also don't know how old that last piece of film was, it could of

> course be the same shot that was running.

>

> And we had three people from Denmark among the adventurous!

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:3BFEBF86-8068-4F5C-836E-6A05C110C4E9@microsoft.com...

> > Charlie,

> > These are the news, I will try to make a summary.

> > 154 passengers were rescued from the british cruise in the Antarctica.

> > They were rescued form the cold waters of the Antarctic Ocean after the

> > ship

> > would hit an iceberg at dawn.

> > The Ushuaia division of the Marine Corps was contacted by the ship's

> > captain

> > asking for help.

> > The ship's last stop had been in Ushuaia on Nov 10th.

> > All passengers are safe in their lifeboats and close to the Bahamas ship

> > Antarctic Dreams.

> > They will probably be taken to Ushuaia.

> > After the crash, after 7 AM (GMT -3 Bs.As. Georgetown), the ship had a 22

> > degree inclination ("escora") and was adrift 570 miles away from Ushuaia,

> > close to the Antarctic Peninsula.

> > After the SOS alert, the Ushuaia Marine Corps located the closest ships

> > (both Bahamas ships Antarctic Dream and Endeavour, both scientific ships),

> > being the Antarctic Dream one hour away from the shipwreck.

> > The ship had been built in 1969 and refurbished in 1993.

> > It used to make to travels to Antarctica per week, being the cost of the

> > ticket around 4,000 sterling pounds per cabin.

> >

> > This is the link for the news in Spanish:

> > http://www.tierradelfuego.info/index.php?s=!notas-ver$$$WW9111if5avdgbajlojeuz&l=es&referer=9noY8pIgcJbEBT3%2BeD1EfV7OvGu1%2FAx0EjHsaWXUsgPJTujbkfVN4u0GVn2uJ04zwIXBd9UDpqSTmmMfyU4dhf4%3D%5E_933

> >

> > Another source (http://www.sur54.com/individual.asp?type=1&id=18837)

> > reports

> > that they will be taken to the chilean base Frei and later on, by plane,

> > to

> > the city of Punta Arenas (same latitud as Rio Grande), but in Chile, west

> > side of the island were I live.

> > It is still not confirmed that the ship will actually shrink. Structural

> > damage has not been quantified yet.

> > There are passengers from Germany, China, Canada, and Argentina.

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> >

> >> Carlos - any updates that you've heard from down there on the fate of the

> >> MV

> >> Explorer? The last I heard up here is that she was listing ~40 degrees

> >> and

> >> was about 850 kilometers SE of Ushuaia.

> >>

> >> We once did a simply wonderful vacation on that great old ship, 18 days

> >> in

> >> the Malvinas and Antarctica. That was 7 years ago, while she was still

> >> owned

> >> by Abercrombie and Kent. I'd truly hate to hear she'd sunk - she deserves

> >> better. Hardly a youngster, especially for a ship plying the kinds of

> >> waters

> >> she does, but she did well by us and was a perfect size for Antarctica.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Charlie.

> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >>

>

November 23, 2007

Re: OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

Eerie feeling, though. Safe at home, feet up in front of the fireplace, a

cup of coffee and a Cognac and it still feels like a close shave?

Tony. . .

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:D56CA950-C3D6-4D61-A9F6-D2A2C72687E1@microsoft.com...

> Reading your post, now I know that were not among the three from Denmark.

> :)

> And our two canadian buddies (Charlie and Kue2) seem also to be safe at

> home.

>

> Carlos

>

> "Tony Sperling" wrote:

>

>> Last I heard, everybody was taken on-board a Norwegian ship that then

>> sailed

>> away to spare the passengers the experience of seeing her go down, while

>> an

>> Argentinian vessel stayed on the spot. Although, personally, it didn't

>> strike me as though the amount of listing had gotten worse over the past

>> 4 -

>> 5 hours, I also don't know how old that last piece of film was, it could

>> of

>> course be the same shot that was running.

>>

>> And we had three people from Denmark among the adventurous!

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:3BFEBF86-8068-4F5C-836E-6A05C110C4E9@microsoft.com...

>> > Charlie,

>> > These are the news, I will try to make a summary.

>> > 154 passengers were rescued from the british cruise in the Antarctica.

>> > They were rescued form the cold waters of the Antarctic Ocean after the

>> > ship

>> > would hit an iceberg at dawn.

>> > The Ushuaia division of the Marine Corps was contacted by the ship's

>> > captain

>> > asking for help.

>> > The ship's last stop had been in Ushuaia on Nov 10th.

>> > All passengers are safe in their lifeboats and close to the Bahamas

>> > ship

>> > Antarctic Dreams.

>> > They will probably be taken to Ushuaia.

>> > After the crash, after 7 AM (GMT -3 Bs.As. Georgetown), the ship had a

>> > 22

>> > degree inclination ("escora") and was adrift 570 miles away from

>> > Ushuaia,

>> > close to the Antarctic Peninsula.

>> > After the SOS alert, the Ushuaia Marine Corps located the closest ships

>> > (both Bahamas ships Antarctic Dream and Endeavour, both scientific

>> > ships),

>> > being the Antarctic Dream one hour away from the shipwreck.

>> > The ship had been built in 1969 and refurbished in 1993.

>> > It used to make to travels to Antarctica per week, being the cost of

>> > the

>> > ticket around 4,000 sterling pounds per cabin.

>> >

>> > This is the link for the news in Spanish:

>> > http://www.tierradelfuego.info/index.php?s=!notas-ver$$$WW9111if5avdgbajlojeuz&l=es&referer=9noY8pIgcJbEBT3%2BeD1EfV7OvGu1%2FAx0EjHsaWXUsgPJTujbkfVN4u0GVn2uJ04zwIXBd9UDpqSTmmMfyU4dhf4%3D%5E_933

>> >

>> > Another source (http://www.sur54.com/individual.asp?type=1&id=18837)

>> > reports

>> > that they will be taken to the chilean base Frei and later on, by

>> > plane,

>> > to

>> > the city of Punta Arenas (same latitud as Rio Grande), but in Chile,

>> > west

>> > side of the island were I live.

>> > It is still not confirmed that the ship will actually shrink.

>> > Structural

>> > damage has not been quantified yet.

>> > There are passengers from Germany, China, Canada, and Argentina.

>> > Carlos

>> >

>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Carlos - any updates that you've heard from down there on the fate of

>> >> the

>> >> MV

>> >> Explorer? The last I heard up here is that she was listing ~40

>> >> degrees

>> >> and

>> >> was about 850 kilometers SE of Ushuaia.

>> >>

>> >> We once did a simply wonderful vacation on that great old ship, 18

>> >> days

>> >> in

>> >> the Malvinas and Antarctica. That was 7 years ago, while she was still

>> >> owned

>> >> by Abercrombie and Kent. I'd truly hate to hear she'd sunk - she

>> >> deserves

>> >> better. Hardly a youngster, especially for a ship plying the kinds of

>> >> waters

>> >> she does, but she did well by us and was a perfect size for

>> >> Antarctica.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Charlie.

>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >>

>>

November 23, 2007

Re: OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

Hmmm....

I can listen from here the crackling noise in your fireplace.

Don't have one at home but I will borrow your idea of a Cognac for tonight.

It is 5PM here and I think it is good time to leave the office and go home.

Just a 5 minutes ride in this small town.

Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Eerie feeling, though. Safe at home, feet up in front of the fireplace, a

> cup of coffee and a Cognac and it still feels like a close shave?

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:D56CA950-C3D6-4D61-A9F6-D2A2C72687E1@microsoft.com...

> > Reading your post, now I know that were not among the three from Denmark.

> > :)

> > And our two canadian buddies (Charlie and Kue2) seem also to be safe at

> > home.

> >

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> >

> >> Last I heard, everybody was taken on-board a Norwegian ship that then

> >> sailed

> >> away to spare the passengers the experience of seeing her go down, while

> >> an

> >> Argentinian vessel stayed on the spot. Although, personally, it didn't

> >> strike me as though the amount of listing had gotten worse over the past

> >> 4 -

> >> 5 hours, I also don't know how old that last piece of film was, it could

> >> of

> >> course be the same shot that was running.

> >>

> >> And we had three people from Denmark among the adventurous!

> >>

> >> Tony. . .

> >>

> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:3BFEBF86-8068-4F5C-836E-6A05C110C4E9@microsoft.com...

> >> > Charlie,

> >> > These are the news, I will try to make a summary.

> >> > 154 passengers were rescued from the british cruise in the Antarctica.

> >> > They were rescued form the cold waters of the Antarctic Ocean after the

> >> > ship

> >> > would hit an iceberg at dawn.

> >> > The Ushuaia division of the Marine Corps was contacted by the ship's

> >> > captain

> >> > asking for help.

> >> > The ship's last stop had been in Ushuaia on Nov 10th.

> >> > All passengers are safe in their lifeboats and close to the Bahamas

> >> > ship

> >> > Antarctic Dreams.

> >> > They will probably be taken to Ushuaia.

> >> > After the crash, after 7 AM (GMT -3 Bs.As. Georgetown), the ship had a

> >> > 22

> >> > degree inclination ("escora") and was adrift 570 miles away from

> >> > Ushuaia,

> >> > close to the Antarctic Peninsula.

> >> > After the SOS alert, the Ushuaia Marine Corps located the closest ships

> >> > (both Bahamas ships Antarctic Dream and Endeavour, both scientific

> >> > ships),

> >> > being the Antarctic Dream one hour away from the shipwreck.

> >> > The ship had been built in 1969 and refurbished in 1993.

> >> > It used to make to travels to Antarctica per week, being the cost of

> >> > the

> >> > ticket around 4,000 sterling pounds per cabin.

> >> >

> >> > This is the link for the news in Spanish:

> >> > http://www.tierradelfuego.info/index.php?s=!notas-ver$$$WW9111if5avdgbajlojeuz&l=es&referer=9noY8pIgcJbEBT3%2BeD1EfV7OvGu1%2FAx0EjHsaWXUsgPJTujbkfVN4u0GVn2uJ04zwIXBd9UDpqSTmmMfyU4dhf4%3D%5E_933

> >> >

> >> > Another source (http://www.sur54.com/individual.asp?type=1&id=18837)

> >> > reports

> >> > that they will be taken to the chilean base Frei and later on, by

> >> > plane,

> >> > to

> >> > the city of Punta Arenas (same latitud as Rio Grande), but in Chile,

> >> > west

> >> > side of the island were I live.

> >> > It is still not confirmed that the ship will actually shrink.

> >> > Structural

> >> > damage has not been quantified yet.

> >> > There are passengers from Germany, China, Canada, and Argentina.

> >> > Carlos

> >> >

> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Carlos - any updates that you've heard from down there on the fate of

> >> >> the

> >> >> MV

> >> >> Explorer? The last I heard up here is that she was listing ~40

> >> >> degrees

> >> >> and

> >> >> was about 850 kilometers SE of Ushuaia.

> >> >>

> >> >> We once did a simply wonderful vacation on that great old ship, 18

> >> >> days

> >> >> in

> >> >> the Malvinas and Antarctica. That was 7 years ago, while she was still

> >> >> owned

> >> >> by Abercrombie and Kent. I'd truly hate to hear she'd sunk - she

> >> >> deserves

> >> >> better. Hardly a youngster, especially for a ship plying the kinds of

> >> >> waters

> >> >> she does, but she did well by us and was a perfect size for

> >> >> Antarctica.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> Charlie.

> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >> >>

> >>

>

November 23, 2007

Re: OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

Yes, I knew _you'd_ get it. And I wanted to be clear where I stood on the

issue. ;)

Thanks for the update. I most sincerely hope they are able to save her.

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:19C76982-21BA-4556-A6E8-987B3A7A7E21@microsoft.com...

> Charlie,

> Just a quick update I heard on the radio.

> The passengers have reached the port in the Shetland Islands, chilean base

> Frei.

> (Shetland Islands were also part of the Argentina-UK war for the Malvinas

> back in 1982).

> The ship's inclination is stable between 40 a 45 degrees.

> Divers had been dispatched and evaluate if repair is possible.

> The ship might finally be saved.

> Carlos

> P.S.: Thanks for using "Malvinas" instead of... well, you know the other

> name.

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

>

>> Thanks, Carlos. "The little red ship", as she was known to those of us

>> who've sailed on her, was a wonderful ship. She was originally the

>> "Lindblad

>> Explorer", and was the first purpose-built expedition cruise ship. Not

>> fancy

>> by any means, but well designed for the kinds of cruising she did. I'm

>> astonished and truly saddened to think that she may not survive this. We

>> were on her over the holidays and the Millenium in 1999-2000, and I have

>> fond memories of her. Coming back from expeditions onto the Antarctic

>> continent and being greeted by a big bowl of hot cider, or going in to

>> the

>> dining room and having Gabor telling us about the day's soup "just like

>> my

>> grandmother used to make".

>>

>> Clearly from the reports the crew did an excellent job of getting folks

>> off

>> in a safe and timely manner. Not surprising - what always struck me about

>> her was that the crew were _very_ experienced and a really "happy ship".

>> Of

>> course that was under different owners, but I suspect some of the crew

>> were

>> still the same.

>>

>> Also, clearly, the various vessels and emergency response teams in the

>> area

>> have done an excellent job of responding in a coordinated and effective

>> way.

>> My thanks to them for a job well done - any time you have to evacuate a

>> ship

>> in sub-zero conditions the risks are significant.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:3BFEBF86-8068-4F5C-836E-6A05C110C4E9@microsoft.com...

>> > Charlie,

>> > These are the news, I will try to make a summary.

>> > 154 passengers were rescued from the british cruise in the Antarctica.

>> > They were rescued form the cold waters of the Antarctic Ocean after the

>> > ship

>> > would hit an iceberg at dawn.

>> > The Ushuaia division of the Marine Corps was contacted by the ship's

>> > captain

>> > asking for help.

>> > The ship's last stop had been in Ushuaia on Nov 10th.

>> > All passengers are safe in their lifeboats and close to the Bahamas

>> > ship

>> > Antarctic Dreams.

>> > They will probably be taken to Ushuaia.

>> > After the crash, after 7 AM (GMT -3 Bs.As. Georgetown), the ship had a

>> > 22

>> > degree inclination ("escora") and was adrift 570 miles away from

>> > Ushuaia,

>> > close to the Antarctic Peninsula.

>> > After the SOS alert, the Ushuaia Marine Corps located the closest ships

>> > (both Bahamas ships Antarctic Dream and Endeavour, both scientific

>> > ships),

>> > being the Antarctic Dream one hour away from the shipwreck.

>> > The ship had been built in 1969 and refurbished in 1993.

>> > It used to make to travels to Antarctica per week, being the cost of

>> > the

>> > ticket around 4,000 sterling pounds per cabin.

>> >

>> > This is the link for the news in Spanish:

>> > http://www.tierradelfuego.info/index.php?s=!notas-ver$$$WW9111if5avdgbajlojeuz&l=es&referer=9noY8pIgcJbEBT3%2BeD1EfV7OvGu1%2FAx0EjHsaWXUsgPJTujbkfVN4u0GVn2uJ04zwIXBd9UDpqSTmmMfyU4dhf4%3D%5E_933

>> >

>> > Another source (http://www.sur54.com/individual.asp?type=1&id=18837)

>> > reports

>> > that they will be taken to the chilean base Frei and later on, by

>> > plane,

>> > to

>> > the city of Punta Arenas (same latitud as Rio Grande), but in Chile,

>> > west

>> > side of the island were I live.

>> > It is still not confirmed that the ship will actually shrink.

>> > Structural

>> > damage has not been quantified yet.

>> > There are passengers from Germany, China, Canada, and Argentina.

>> > Carlos

>> >

>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Carlos - any updates that you've heard from down there on the fate of

>> >> the

>> >> MV

>> >> Explorer? The last I heard up here is that she was listing ~40

>> >> degrees

>> >> and

>> >> was about 850 kilometers SE of Ushuaia.

>> >>

>> >> We once did a simply wonderful vacation on that great old ship, 18

>> >> days

>> >> in

>> >> the Malvinas and Antarctica. That was 7 years ago, while she was still

>> >> owned

>> >> by Abercrombie and Kent. I'd truly hate to hear she'd sunk - she

>> >> deserves

>> >> better. Hardly a youngster, especially for a ship plying the kinds of

>> >> waters

>> >> she does, but she did well by us and was a perfect size for

>> >> Antarctica.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Charlie.

>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >>

>>

November 23, 2007

Re: OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

I, on the other hand, will go for a bit of single malt scotch tonight, in

front of a roaring fire. ;)

It's a very eirie feeling indeed, since I know the ship so well. Easily the

least luxurious of the ships we've been on, but a happy ship and an amazing

part of the world. I'd go back to Antarctica in a heart beat.

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:544F7D67-4FF1-4158-A8A0-2420011A2A91@microsoft.com...

> Hmmm....

> I can listen from here the crackling noise in your fireplace.

> Don't have one at home but I will borrow your idea of a Cognac for

> tonight.

> It is 5PM here and I think it is good time to leave the office and go

> home.

> Just a 5 minutes ride in this small town.

> Carlos

>

> "Tony Sperling" wrote:

>

>> Eerie feeling, though. Safe at home, feet up in front of the fireplace, a

>> cup of coffee and a Cognac and it still feels like a close shave?

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:D56CA950-C3D6-4D61-A9F6-D2A2C72687E1@microsoft.com...

>> > Reading your post, now I know that were not among the three from

>> > Denmark.

>> > :)

>> > And our two canadian buddies (Charlie and Kue2) seem also to be safe at

>> > home.

>> >

>> > Carlos

>> >

>> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Last I heard, everybody was taken on-board a Norwegian ship that then

>> >> sailed

>> >> away to spare the passengers the experience of seeing her go down,

>> >> while

>> >> an

>> >> Argentinian vessel stayed on the spot. Although, personally, it didn't

>> >> strike me as though the amount of listing had gotten worse over the

>> >> past

>> >> 4 -

>> >> 5 hours, I also don't know how old that last piece of film was, it

>> >> could

>> >> of

>> >> course be the same shot that was running.

>> >>

>> >> And we had three people from Denmark among the adventurous!

>> >>

>> >> Tony. . .

>> >>

>> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:3BFEBF86-8068-4F5C-836E-6A05C110C4E9@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Charlie,

>> >> > These are the news, I will try to make a summary.

>> >> > 154 passengers were rescued from the british cruise in the

>> >> > Antarctica.

>> >> > They were rescued form the cold waters of the Antarctic Ocean after

>> >> > the

>> >> > ship

>> >> > would hit an iceberg at dawn.

>> >> > The Ushuaia division of the Marine Corps was contacted by the ship's

>> >> > captain

>> >> > asking for help.

>> >> > The ship's last stop had been in Ushuaia on Nov 10th.

>> >> > All passengers are safe in their lifeboats and close to the Bahamas

>> >> > ship

>> >> > Antarctic Dreams.

>> >> > They will probably be taken to Ushuaia.

>> >> > After the crash, after 7 AM (GMT -3 Bs.As. Georgetown), the ship had

>> >> > a

>> >> > 22

>> >> > degree inclination ("escora") and was adrift 570 miles away from

>> >> > Ushuaia,

>> >> > close to the Antarctic Peninsula.

>> >> > After the SOS alert, the Ushuaia Marine Corps located the closest

>> >> > ships

>> >> > (both Bahamas ships Antarctic Dream and Endeavour, both scientific

>> >> > ships),

>> >> > being the Antarctic Dream one hour away from the shipwreck.

>> >> > The ship had been built in 1969 and refurbished in 1993.

>> >> > It used to make to travels to Antarctica per week, being the cost of

>> >> > the

>> >> > ticket around 4,000 sterling pounds per cabin.

>> >> >

>> >> > This is the link for the news in Spanish:

>> >> > http://www.tierradelfuego.info/index.php?s=!notas-ver$$$WW9111if5avdgbajlojeuz&l=es&referer=9noY8pIgcJbEBT3%2BeD1EfV7OvGu1%2FAx0EjHsaWXUsgPJTujbkfVN4u0GVn2uJ04zwIXBd9UDpqSTmmMfyU4dhf4%3D%5E_933

>> >> >

>> >> > Another source (http://www.sur54.com/individual.asp?type=1&id=18837)

>> >> > reports

>> >> > that they will be taken to the chilean base Frei and later on, by

>> >> > plane,

>> >> > to

>> >> > the city of Punta Arenas (same latitud as Rio Grande), but in Chile,

>> >> > west

>> >> > side of the island were I live.

>> >> > It is still not confirmed that the ship will actually shrink.

>> >> > Structural

>> >> > damage has not been quantified yet.

>> >> > There are passengers from Germany, China, Canada, and Argentina.

>> >> > Carlos

>> >> >

>> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> Carlos - any updates that you've heard from down there on the fate

>> >> >> of

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> MV

>> >> >> Explorer? The last I heard up here is that she was listing ~40

>> >> >> degrees

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> was about 850 kilometers SE of Ushuaia.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> We once did a simply wonderful vacation on that great old ship, 18

>> >> >> days

>> >> >> in

>> >> >> the Malvinas and Antarctica. That was 7 years ago, while she was

>> >> >> still

>> >> >> owned

>> >> >> by Abercrombie and Kent. I'd truly hate to hear she'd sunk - she

>> >> >> deserves

>> >> >> better. Hardly a youngster, especially for a ship plying the kinds

>> >> >> of

>> >> >> waters

>> >> >> she does, but she did well by us and was a perfect size for

>> >> >> Antarctica.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Charlie.

>> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >> >>

>> >>

>>

November 23, 2007

Re: OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

She's finally sinking... (sigh)

:(

Carlos

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> I, on the other hand, will go for a bit of single malt scotch tonight, in

> front of a roaring fire. ;)

>

> It's a very eirie feeling indeed, since I know the ship so well. Easily the

> least luxurious of the ships we've been on, but a happy ship and an amazing

> part of the world. I'd go back to Antarctica in a heart beat.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:544F7D67-4FF1-4158-A8A0-2420011A2A91@microsoft.com...

> > Hmmm....

> > I can listen from here the crackling noise in your fireplace.

> > Don't have one at home but I will borrow your idea of a Cognac for

> > tonight.

> > It is 5PM here and I think it is good time to leave the office and go

> > home.

> > Just a 5 minutes ride in this small town.

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> >

> >> Eerie feeling, though. Safe at home, feet up in front of the fireplace, a

> >> cup of coffee and a Cognac and it still feels like a close shave?

> >>

> >> Tony. . .

> >>

> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:D56CA950-C3D6-4D61-A9F6-D2A2C72687E1@microsoft.com...

> >> > Reading your post, now I know that were not among the three from

> >> > Denmark.

> >> > :)

> >> > And our two canadian buddies (Charlie and Kue2) seem also to be safe at

> >> > home.

> >> >

> >> > Carlos

> >> >

> >> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Last I heard, everybody was taken on-board a Norwegian ship that then

> >> >> sailed

> >> >> away to spare the passengers the experience of seeing her go down,

> >> >> while

> >> >> an

> >> >> Argentinian vessel stayed on the spot. Although, personally, it didn't

> >> >> strike me as though the amount of listing had gotten worse over the

> >> >> past

> >> >> 4 -

> >> >> 5 hours, I also don't know how old that last piece of film was, it

> >> >> could

> >> >> of

> >> >> course be the same shot that was running.

> >> >>

> >> >> And we had three people from Denmark among the adventurous!

> >> >>

> >> >> Tony. . .

> >> >>

> >> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> >> news:3BFEBF86-8068-4F5C-836E-6A05C110C4E9@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > Charlie,

> >> >> > These are the news, I will try to make a summary.

> >> >> > 154 passengers were rescued from the british cruise in the

> >> >> > Antarctica.

> >> >> > They were rescued form the cold waters of the Antarctic Ocean after

> >> >> > the

> >> >> > ship

> >> >> > would hit an iceberg at dawn.

> >> >> > The Ushuaia division of the Marine Corps was contacted by the ship's

> >> >> > captain

> >> >> > asking for help.

> >> >> > The ship's last stop had been in Ushuaia on Nov 10th.

> >> >> > All passengers are safe in their lifeboats and close to the Bahamas

> >> >> > ship

> >> >> > Antarctic Dreams.

> >> >> > They will probably be taken to Ushuaia.

> >> >> > After the crash, after 7 AM (GMT -3 Bs.As. Georgetown), the ship had

> >> >> > a

> >> >> > 22

> >> >> > degree inclination ("escora") and was adrift 570 miles away from

> >> >> > Ushuaia,

> >> >> > close to the Antarctic Peninsula.

> >> >> > After the SOS alert, the Ushuaia Marine Corps located the closest

> >> >> > ships

> >> >> > (both Bahamas ships Antarctic Dream and Endeavour, both scientific

> >> >> > ships),

> >> >> > being the Antarctic Dream one hour away from the shipwreck.

> >> >> > The ship had been built in 1969 and refurbished in 1993.

> >> >> > It used to make to travels to Antarctica per week, being the cost of

> >> >> > the

> >> >> > ticket around 4,000 sterling pounds per cabin.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > This is the link for the news in Spanish:

> >> >> > http://www.tierradelfuego.info/index.php?s=!notas-ver$$$WW9111if5avdgbajlojeuz&l=es&referer=9noY8pIgcJbEBT3%2BeD1EfV7OvGu1%2FAx0EjHsaWXUsgPJTujbkfVN4u0GVn2uJ04zwIXBd9UDpqSTmmMfyU4dhf4%3D%5E_933

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Another source (http://www.sur54.com/individual.asp?type=1&id=18837)

> >> >> > reports

> >> >> > that they will be taken to the chilean base Frei and later on, by

> >> >> > plane,

> >> >> > to

> >> >> > the city of Punta Arenas (same latitud as Rio Grande), but in Chile,

> >> >> > west

> >> >> > side of the island were I live.

> >> >> > It is still not confirmed that the ship will actually shrink.

> >> >> > Structural

> >> >> > damage has not been quantified yet.

> >> >> > There are passengers from Germany, China, Canada, and Argentina.

> >> >> > Carlos

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >> Carlos - any updates that you've heard from down there on the fate

> >> >> >> of

> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> MV

> >> >> >> Explorer? The last I heard up here is that she was listing ~40

> >> >> >> degrees

> >> >> >> and

> >> >> >> was about 850 kilometers SE of Ushuaia.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> We once did a simply wonderful vacation on that great old ship, 18

> >> >> >> days

> >> >> >> in

> >> >> >> the Malvinas and Antarctica. That was 7 years ago, while she was

> >> >> >> still

> >> >> >> owned

> >> >> >> by Abercrombie and Kent. I'd truly hate to hear she'd sunk - she

> >> >> >> deserves

> >> >> >> better. Hardly a youngster, especially for a ship plying the kinds

> >> >> >> of

> >> >> >> waters

> >> >> >> she does, but she did well by us and was a perfect size for

> >> >> >> Antarctica.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> --

> >> >> >> Charlie.

> >> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> >> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >> >> >>

> >> >>

> >>

>

November 23, 2007

Re: OT: Carlos: Any news on MV Explorer

yes, the latest pictures are very sad.

--

Charlie.

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:EDC4022C-FAC5-4AD3-B72F-8BFA07355935@microsoft.com...

> She's finally sinking... (sigh)

> :(

> Carlos

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

>

>> I, on the other hand, will go for a bit of single malt scotch tonight, in

>> front of a roaring fire. ;)

>>

>> It's a very eirie feeling indeed, since I know the ship so well. Easily

>> the

>> least luxurious of the ships we've been on, but a happy ship and an

>> amazing

>> part of the world. I'd go back to Antarctica in a heart beat.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.