VISTA X64 WORKS FINE!

November 24, 2007

Thought it would be a good idea to post my experience with my Vista X64

system and working experience with it.

Set the system up myself and after some good home work opted for the

following components:

M/Board: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

CPU: Intel Dual Core 6600 @ 2.40HGz

RAM: 4 Gb

Vista: Business X64

HD: Raid 0

Most of my work is graphics and so I needed something stable and at the same

time reliable/stable when handling heavy files with quite a range of

software and so on. My initial problems were what I call "normal

administration", new drivers, new software but managed to sort it all out

without big problems, most of the time with the the help of this forum!, and

now have the system I wanted working way beyond my initial expectations.

X64 has proved to be stable and works just fine. No great hassle and

whatever comes up doesn't worry me at all, went through the same experience

with Xp!, and with a little care the system runs smoothly.

On reading some of the posts I have the impression a lot of people still

expect operating systems to function perfectly no matter what and a good

percentage of Vista users find it difficult to move from Xp simply because

they expect it to be the same. I have been submerged by people asking for

help because their new Laptop isn't functioning and end results are 90% due

to the users and most of the rest due to hardware, a very small percentage

are due to Vista itself. It took Xp a few years, and a few Service Packs, to

get through it's initial hitches and Vita will probably be the same. I

started working with Vista not expecting it to be Xp so handling it as a new

operating system and found myself getting through all the hitches easily and

got to understand how it all works a lot better.

I also work with a Power Mac G5 Quad - 8 Gb ram and the two systems function

with the same results, which is what I wanted from the beginning.

Thanks again for your advice.

AndyB

November 25, 2007

Re: VISTA X64 WORKS FINE!

Nice to see a success story. It is a good system and keeps getting better.

It always helps if those going 64-bit start with the idea that they are

starting over, and not to try to convert a 32-bit system.

"BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

news:6C08C440-C8C8-4F77-81F0-C3FDE652C097@microsoft.com...

> Thought it would be a good idea to post my experience with my Vista X64

> system and working experience with it.

> Set the system up myself and after some good home work opted for the

> following components:

> M/Board: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

> CPU: Intel Dual Core 6600 @ 2.40HGz

> RAM: 4 Gb

> Vista: Business X64

> HD: Raid 0

> Most of my work is graphics and so I needed something stable and at the

> same time reliable/stable when handling heavy files with quite a range of

> software and so on. My initial problems were what I call "normal

> administration", new drivers, new software but managed to sort it all out

> without big problems, most of the time with the the help of this forum!,

> and now have the system I wanted working way beyond my initial

> expectations.

> X64 has proved to be stable and works just fine. No great hassle and

> whatever comes up doesn't worry me at all, went through the same

> experience with Xp!, and with a little care the system runs smoothly.

>

> On reading some of the posts I have the impression a lot of people still

> expect operating systems to function perfectly no matter what and a good

> percentage of Vista users find it difficult to move from Xp simply because

> they expect it to be the same. I have been submerged by people asking for

> help because their new Laptop isn't functioning and end results are 90%

> due to the users and most of the rest due to hardware, a very small

> percentage are due to Vista itself. It took Xp a few years, and a few

> Service Packs, to get through it's initial hitches and Vita will probably

> be the same. I started working with Vista not expecting it to be Xp so

> handling it as a new operating system and found myself getting through all

> the hitches easily and got to understand how it all works a lot better.

>

> I also work with a Power Mac G5 Quad - 8 Gb ram and the two systems

> function with the same results, which is what I wanted from the beginning.

>

> Thanks again for your advice.

>

> AndyB

>

November 25, 2007

Re: VISTA X64 WORKS FINE!

I also run 64 bit Vista and it works perfectly. Absolutely no problems here.

Blazing fast, etc. I only wish I could set the 64 bit IE and WMP11 as

default, but aside from that no complaints!!!

I hope Microsoft pushes hard for 64 bit to come alive!

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Nice to see a success story. It is a good system and keeps getting better.

> It always helps if those going 64-bit start with the idea that they are

> starting over, and not to try to convert a 32-bit system.

>

> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

> news:6C08C440-C8C8-4F77-81F0-C3FDE652C097@microsoft.com...

> > Thought it would be a good idea to post my experience with my Vista X64

> > system and working experience with it.

> > Set the system up myself and after some good home work opted for the

> > following components:

> > M/Board: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

> > CPU: Intel Dual Core 6600 @ 2.40HGz

> > RAM: 4 Gb

> > Vista: Business X64

> > HD: Raid 0

> > Most of my work is graphics and so I needed something stable and at the

> > same time reliable/stable when handling heavy files with quite a range of

> > software and so on. My initial problems were what I call "normal

> > administration", new drivers, new software but managed to sort it all out

> > without big problems, most of the time with the the help of this forum!,

> > and now have the system I wanted working way beyond my initial

> > expectations.

> > X64 has proved to be stable and works just fine. No great hassle and

> > whatever comes up doesn't worry me at all, went through the same

> > experience with Xp!, and with a little care the system runs smoothly.

> >

> > On reading some of the posts I have the impression a lot of people still

> > expect operating systems to function perfectly no matter what and a good

> > percentage of Vista users find it difficult to move from Xp simply because

> > they expect it to be the same. I have been submerged by people asking for

> > help because their new Laptop isn't functioning and end results are 90%

> > due to the users and most of the rest due to hardware, a very small

> > percentage are due to Vista itself. It took Xp a few years, and a few

> > Service Packs, to get through it's initial hitches and Vita will probably

> > be the same. I started working with Vista not expecting it to be Xp so

> > handling it as a new operating system and found myself getting through all

> > the hitches easily and got to understand how it all works a lot better.

> >

> > I also work with a Power Mac G5 Quad - 8 Gb ram and the two systems

> > function with the same results, which is what I wanted from the beginning.

> >

> > Thanks again for your advice.

> >

> > AndyB

> >

>

November 25, 2007

Re: VISTA X64 WORKS FINE!

As John says one of the problems with x64 Vista is people trying to convert

to it from a 32-bit system. I've given up on quite a few Pc's and laptops as

it was to much of a hassle to convert with would be cheaper to start over

from scratch.

I believe X64 is the future and hope Microsoft concentrates more on the

system. Works as it is but can become tomorrows standard. Software is slowly

going that way and hardware manufacturers too so x64 is here to stay and get

better.

Greetings from Milan Italy, it's getting COLD!

ANDYB

"Techy" <Techy@discussions.microsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio

news:8347301C-A2E0-4924-8FF5-72C3FD806DCF@microsoft.com...

>I also run 64 bit Vista and it works perfectly. Absolutely no problems

>here.

> Blazing fast, etc. I only wish I could set the 64 bit IE and WMP11 as

> default, but aside from that no complaints!!!

>

> I hope Microsoft pushes hard for 64 bit to come alive!

>

> "John Barnes" wrote:

>

>> Nice to see a success story. It is a good system and keeps getting

>> better.

>> It always helps if those going 64-bit start with the idea that they are

>> starting over, and not to try to convert a 32-bit system.

>>

>> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

>> news:6C08C440-C8C8-4F77-81F0-C3FDE652C097@microsoft.com...

>> > Thought it would be a good idea to post my experience with my Vista X64

>> > system and working experience with it.

>> > Set the system up myself and after some good home work opted for the

>> > following components:

>> > M/Board: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

>> > CPU: Intel Dual Core 6600 @ 2.40HGz

>> > RAM: 4 Gb

>> > Vista: Business X64

>> > HD: Raid 0

>> > Most of my work is graphics and so I needed something stable and at the

>> > same time reliable/stable when handling heavy files with quite a range

>> > of

>> > software and so on. My initial problems were what I call "normal

>> > administration", new drivers, new software but managed to sort it all

>> > out

>> > without big problems, most of the time with the the help of this

>> > forum!,

>> > and now have the system I wanted working way beyond my initial

>> > expectations.

>> > X64 has proved to be stable and works just fine. No great hassle and

>> > whatever comes up doesn't worry me at all, went through the same

>> > experience with Xp!, and with a little care the system runs smoothly.

>> >

>> > On reading some of the posts I have the impression a lot of people

>> > still

>> > expect operating systems to function perfectly no matter what and a

>> > good

>> > percentage of Vista users find it difficult to move from Xp simply

>> > because

>> > they expect it to be the same. I have been submerged by people asking

>> > for

>> > help because their new Laptop isn't functioning and end results are 90%

>> > due to the users and most of the rest due to hardware, a very small

>> > percentage are due to Vista itself. It took Xp a few years, and a few

>> > Service Packs, to get through it's initial hitches and Vita will

>> > probably

>> > be the same. I started working with Vista not expecting it to be Xp so

>> > handling it as a new operating system and found myself getting through

>> > all

>> > the hitches easily and got to understand how it all works a lot better.

>> >

>> > I also work with a Power Mac G5 Quad - 8 Gb ram and the two systems

>> > function with the same results, which is what I wanted from the

>> > beginning.

>> >

>> > Thanks again for your advice.

>> >

>> > AndyB

>> >

>>

November 25, 2007

Re: VISTA X64 WORKS FINE!

I have Vista Ultimate 64 Bit on my HP Notebook. Surprisingly it came

preinstalled with this O/S and I couldn't be happier with it. I had very

few problems from the get go, specifically one driver that did not come in a

64 Bit flavor, but the Company already had it in Beta and it was out about a

month after I got my Notebook. I've now had it for 8 months and it runs

beautifully - trouble free. All of my software and peripherals run

perfectly.

I have read so many complaints about Vista it drives me crazy. Drawing on

my experience with two PC's now running it I just don't know how people can

be having so much trouble with it.

"BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

news:#k2637zLIHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> As John says one of the problems with x64 Vista is people trying to

> convert to it from a 32-bit system. I've given up on quite a few Pc's and

> laptops as it was to much of a hassle to convert with would be cheaper to

> start over from scratch.

> I believe X64 is the future and hope Microsoft concentrates more on the

> system. Works as it is but can become tomorrows standard. Software is

> slowly going that way and hardware manufacturers too so x64 is here to

> stay and get better.

>

> Greetings from Milan Italy, it's getting COLD!

>

> ANDYB

>

> "Techy" <Techy@discussions.microsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio

> news:8347301C-A2E0-4924-8FF5-72C3FD806DCF@microsoft.com...

>>I also run 64 bit Vista and it works perfectly. Absolutely no problems

>>here.

>> Blazing fast, etc. I only wish I could set the 64 bit IE and WMP11 as

>> default, but aside from that no complaints!!!

>>

>> I hope Microsoft pushes hard for 64 bit to come alive!

>>

>> "John Barnes" wrote:

>>

>>> Nice to see a success story. It is a good system and keeps getting

>>> better.

>>> It always helps if those going 64-bit start with the idea that they are

>>> starting over, and not to try to convert a 32-bit system.

>>>

>>> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

>>> news:6C08C440-C8C8-4F77-81F0-C3FDE652C097@microsoft.com...

>>> > Thought it would be a good idea to post my experience with my Vista

>>> > X64

>>> > system and working experience with it.

>>> > Set the system up myself and after some good home work opted for the

>>> > following components:

>>> > M/Board: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

>>> > CPU: Intel Dual Core 6600 @ 2.40HGz

>>> > RAM: 4 Gb

>>> > Vista: Business X64

>>> > HD: Raid 0

>>> > Most of my work is graphics and so I needed something stable and at

>>> > the

>>> > same time reliable/stable when handling heavy files with quite a range

>>> > of

>>> > software and so on. My initial problems were what I call "normal

>>> > administration", new drivers, new software but managed to sort it all

>>> > out

>>> > without big problems, most of the time with the the help of this

>>> > forum!,

>>> > and now have the system I wanted working way beyond my initial

>>> > expectations.

>>> > X64 has proved to be stable and works just fine. No great hassle and

>>> > whatever comes up doesn't worry me at all, went through the same

>>> > experience with Xp!, and with a little care the system runs smoothly.

>>> >

>>> > On reading some of the posts I have the impression a lot of people

>>> > still

>>> > expect operating systems to function perfectly no matter what and a

>>> > good

>>> > percentage of Vista users find it difficult to move from Xp simply

>>> > because

>>> > they expect it to be the same. I have been submerged by people asking

>>> > for

>>> > help because their new Laptop isn't functioning and end results are

>>> > 90%

>>> > due to the users and most of the rest due to hardware, a very small

>>> > percentage are due to Vista itself. It took Xp a few years, and a few

>>> > Service Packs, to get through it's initial hitches and Vita will

>>> > probably

>>> > be the same. I started working with Vista not expecting it to be Xp so

>>> > handling it as a new operating system and found myself getting through

>>> > all

>>> > the hitches easily and got to understand how it all works a lot

>>> > better.

>>> >

>>> > I also work with a Power Mac G5 Quad - 8 Gb ram and the two systems

>>> > function with the same results, which is what I wanted from the

>>> > beginning.

>>> >

>>> > Thanks again for your advice.

>>> >

>>> > AndyB

>>> >

>>>

>

November 26, 2007

Re: VISTA X64 WORKS FINE!

I have the impression people are just expecting have to have an operating

system

that works without "understanding" how it works. It just has to work and

that's it!

Xp was a great system and lived it's life but Vista is way superior and it

will

take people a long time to understand exactly what the difference is between

the two systems.

Just today I had a client ask me to load Xp on her laptop as it wasn't

working,

I switched the laptop on and everything was just fine. The truth is that on

seeing things

different to what she had been used to made her draw back and reject Vista.

This is very common and it will take time to get people over pre-conceptions

and so on.

I'm working on having all my 8 business Pc's converted to Vista and already

know I'll

have to problems with any of the peripherals (printers, scanners and

plotters).

AndyB

"KevinD" <kjdinoc@msn.com> ha scritto nel messaggio

news:BCD6DA40-1722-4470-8A12-FC8A5E9533FC@microsoft.com...

>I have Vista Ultimate 64 Bit on my HP Notebook. Surprisingly it came

>preinstalled with this O/S and I couldn't be happier with it. I had very

>few problems from the get go, specifically one driver that did not come in

>a 64 Bit flavor, but the Company already had it in Beta and it was out

>about a month after I got my Notebook. I've now had it for 8 months and it

>runs beautifully - trouble free. All of my software and peripherals run

>perfectly.

>

> I have read so many complaints about Vista it drives me crazy. Drawing on

> my experience with two PC's now running it I just don't know how people

> can be having so much trouble with it.

>

> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

> news:#k2637zLIHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> As John says one of the problems with x64 Vista is people trying to

>> convert to it from a 32-bit system. I've given up on quite a few Pc's and

>> laptops as it was to much of a hassle to convert with would be cheaper to

>> start over from scratch.

>> I believe X64 is the future and hope Microsoft concentrates more on the

>> system. Works as it is but can become tomorrows standard. Software is

>> slowly going that way and hardware manufacturers too so x64 is here to

>> stay and get better.

>>

>> Greetings from Milan Italy, it's getting COLD!

>>

>> ANDYB

>>

>> "Techy" <Techy@discussions.microsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio

>> news:8347301C-A2E0-4924-8FF5-72C3FD806DCF@microsoft.com...

>>>I also run 64 bit Vista and it works perfectly. Absolutely no problems

>>>here.

>>> Blazing fast, etc. I only wish I could set the 64 bit IE and WMP11 as

>>> default, but aside from that no complaints!!!

>>>

>>> I hope Microsoft pushes hard for 64 bit to come alive!

>>>

>>> "John Barnes" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Nice to see a success story. It is a good system and keeps getting

>>>> better.

>>>> It always helps if those going 64-bit start with the idea that they are

>>>> starting over, and not to try to convert a 32-bit system.

>>>>

>>>> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

>>>> news:6C08C440-C8C8-4F77-81F0-C3FDE652C097@microsoft.com...

>>>> > Thought it would be a good idea to post my experience with my Vista

>>>> > X64

>>>> > system and working experience with it.

>>>> > Set the system up myself and after some good home work opted for the

>>>> > following components:

>>>> > M/Board: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

>>>> > CPU: Intel Dual Core 6600 @ 2.40HGz

>>>> > RAM: 4 Gb

>>>> > Vista: Business X64

>>>> > HD: Raid 0

>>>> > Most of my work is graphics and so I needed something stable and at

>>>> > the

>>>> > same time reliable/stable when handling heavy files with quite a

>>>> > range of

>>>> > software and so on. My initial problems were what I call "normal

>>>> > administration", new drivers, new software but managed to sort it all

>>>> > out

>>>> > without big problems, most of the time with the the help of this

>>>> > forum!,

>>>> > and now have the system I wanted working way beyond my initial

>>>> > expectations.

>>>> > X64 has proved to be stable and works just fine. No great hassle and

>>>> > whatever comes up doesn't worry me at all, went through the same

>>>> > experience with Xp!, and with a little care the system runs smoothly.

>>>> >

>>>> > On reading some of the posts I have the impression a lot of people

>>>> > still

>>>> > expect operating systems to function perfectly no matter what and a

>>>> > good

>>>> > percentage of Vista users find it difficult to move from Xp simply

>>>> > because

>>>> > they expect it to be the same. I have been submerged by people asking

>>>> > for

>>>> > help because their new Laptop isn't functioning and end results are

>>>> > 90%

>>>> > due to the users and most of the rest due to hardware, a very small

>>>> > percentage are due to Vista itself. It took Xp a few years, and a few

>>>> > Service Packs, to get through it's initial hitches and Vita will

>>>> > probably

>>>> > be the same. I started working with Vista not expecting it to be Xp

>>>> > so

>>>> > handling it as a new operating system and found myself getting

>>>> > through all

>>>> > the hitches easily and got to understand how it all works a lot

>>>> > better.

>>>> >

>>>> > I also work with a Power Mac G5 Quad - 8 Gb ram and the two systems

>>>> > function with the same results, which is what I wanted from the

>>>> > beginning.

>>>> >

>>>> > Thanks again for your advice.

>>>> >

>>>> > AndyB

>>>> >

>>>>

>>

November 27, 2007

Re: VISTA X64 WORKS FINE!

I work with Software and all I can say is "I HATE THAT MENTALITY"! It is so

frustrating to be able to offer something that could really make peoples

lives much easier and they just don't see it, or get it.

"BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

news:F07B3BFA-C3D6-4F42-AAFE-AA3A7DFF7B83@microsoft.com...

> I have the impression people are just expecting have to have an operating

> system

> that works without "understanding" how it works. It just has to work and

> that's it!

> Xp was a great system and lived it's life but Vista is way superior and it

> will

> take people a long time to understand exactly what the difference is

> between

> the two systems.

> Just today I had a client ask me to load Xp on her laptop as it wasn't

> working,

> I switched the laptop on and everything was just fine. The truth is that

> on seeing things

> different to what she had been used to made her draw back and reject

> Vista.

> This is very common and it will take time to get people over

> pre-conceptions and so on.

> I'm working on having all my 8 business Pc's converted to Vista and

> already know I'll

> have to problems with any of the peripherals (printers, scanners and

> plotters).

> AndyB

>

> "KevinD" <kjdinoc@msn.com> ha scritto nel messaggio

> news:BCD6DA40-1722-4470-8A12-FC8A5E9533FC@microsoft.com...

>>I have Vista Ultimate 64 Bit on my HP Notebook. Surprisingly it came

>>preinstalled with this O/S and I couldn't be happier with it. I had very

>>few problems from the get go, specifically one driver that did not come in

>>a 64 Bit flavor, but the Company already had it in Beta and it was out

>>about a month after I got my Notebook. I've now had it for 8 months and

>>it runs beautifully - trouble free. All of my software and peripherals

>>run perfectly.

>>

>> I have read so many complaints about Vista it drives me crazy. Drawing

>> on my experience with two PC's now running it I just don't know how

>> people can be having so much trouble with it.

>>

>> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

>> news:#k2637zLIHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> As John says one of the problems with x64 Vista is people trying to

>>> convert to it from a 32-bit system. I've given up on quite a few Pc's

>>> and laptops as it was to much of a hassle to convert with would be

>>> cheaper to start over from scratch.

>>> I believe X64 is the future and hope Microsoft concentrates more on the

>>> system. Works as it is but can become tomorrows standard. Software is

>>> slowly going that way and hardware manufacturers too so x64 is here to

>>> stay and get better.

>>>

>>> Greetings from Milan Italy, it's getting COLD!

>>>

>>> ANDYB

>>>

>>> "Techy" <Techy@discussions.microsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio

>>> news:8347301C-A2E0-4924-8FF5-72C3FD806DCF@microsoft.com...

>>>>I also run 64 bit Vista and it works perfectly. Absolutely no problems

>>>>here.

>>>> Blazing fast, etc. I only wish I could set the 64 bit IE and WMP11 as

>>>> default, but aside from that no complaints!!!

>>>>

>>>> I hope Microsoft pushes hard for 64 bit to come alive!

>>>>

>>>> "John Barnes" wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Nice to see a success story. It is a good system and keeps getting

>>>>> better.

>>>>> It always helps if those going 64-bit start with the idea that they

>>>>> are

>>>>> starting over, and not to try to convert a 32-bit system.

>>>>>

>>>>> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

>>>>> news:6C08C440-C8C8-4F77-81F0-C3FDE652C097@microsoft.com...

>>>>> > Thought it would be a good idea to post my experience with my Vista

>>>>> > X64

>>>>> > system and working experience with it.

>>>>> > Set the system up myself and after some good home work opted for the

>>>>> > following components:

>>>>> > M/Board: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

>>>>> > CPU: Intel Dual Core 6600 @ 2.40HGz

>>>>> > RAM: 4 Gb

>>>>> > Vista: Business X64

>>>>> > HD: Raid 0

>>>>> > Most of my work is graphics and so I needed something stable and at

>>>>> > the

>>>>> > same time reliable/stable when handling heavy files with quite a

>>>>> > range of

>>>>> > software and so on. My initial problems were what I call "normal

>>>>> > administration", new drivers, new software but managed to sort it

>>>>> > all out

>>>>> > without big problems, most of the time with the the help of this

>>>>> > forum!,

>>>>> > and now have the system I wanted working way beyond my initial

>>>>> > expectations.

>>>>> > X64 has proved to be stable and works just fine. No great hassle and

>>>>> > whatever comes up doesn't worry me at all, went through the same

>>>>> > experience with Xp!, and with a little care the system runs

>>>>> > smoothly.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > On reading some of the posts I have the impression a lot of people

>>>>> > still

>>>>> > expect operating systems to function perfectly no matter what and a

>>>>> > good

>>>>> > percentage of Vista users find it difficult to move from Xp simply

>>>>> > because

>>>>> > they expect it to be the same. I have been submerged by people

>>>>> > asking for

>>>>> > help because their new Laptop isn't functioning and end results are

>>>>> > 90%

>>>>> > due to the users and most of the rest due to hardware, a very small

>>>>> > percentage are due to Vista itself. It took Xp a few years, and a

>>>>> > few

>>>>> > Service Packs, to get through it's initial hitches and Vita will

>>>>> > probably

>>>>> > be the same. I started working with Vista not expecting it to be Xp

>>>>> > so

>>>>> > handling it as a new operating system and found myself getting

>>>>> > through all

>>>>> > the hitches easily and got to understand how it all works a lot

>>>>> > better.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > I also work with a Power Mac G5 Quad - 8 Gb ram and the two systems

>>>>> > function with the same results, which is what I wanted from the

>>>>> > beginning.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Thanks again for your advice.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > AndyB

>>>>> >

>>>>>

>>>

>

November 27, 2007

Re: VISTA X64 WORKS FINE!

I'm with you on that!, here in Italy Pc's have always been seen as game

instruments and only in the last 5-7 years have things changed a little. In

Milan we have 4/5 decent computer stores and what you find on the shelf is

still entirely focused on this segment of clientele. As soon as you want

something decent you either assemble it yourself, as I have been doing for

the past 10 years, or order it online from specialized stores.

With this kind of market the consequences are that people have trouble

seeing the positive and productive part of a pc and with the operating

system/software that come with them.

A couple of evenings a week I teach youngsters to use Pc's and I avoid

teaching how to play games with them. They are "productive" tools and it

takes time to get them to understand that games are not all there is to it.

As I do it through the local council the main aim is to make people

understand that it's possible to increase your production simply by using

the machine as a very powerful working tool. I have a couple of boys

initially totally concentrated on games and have now become experts and have

become part of the councils network management team. They simply saw the

productive part of machine+operating system+software and games have now

become the past.

People find it hard to understand the potential of Vista and other software

and this leads to what we are all going through with Vista non being fully

accepted.

Than you all for you comments.

AndyB

"KevinD" <kjdinoc@msn.com> ha scritto nel messaggio

news:D62C388E-FF50-48D2-986B-434CB824B395@microsoft.com...

>I work with Software and all I can say is "I HATE THAT MENTALITY"! It is

>so frustrating to be able to offer something that could really make peoples

>lives much easier and they just don't see it, or get it.

>

> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

> news:F07B3BFA-C3D6-4F42-AAFE-AA3A7DFF7B83@microsoft.com...

>> I have the impression people are just expecting have to have an operating

>> system

>> that works without "understanding" how it works. It just has to work and

>> that's it!

>> Xp was a great system and lived it's life but Vista is way superior and

>> it will

>> take people a long time to understand exactly what the difference is

>> between

>> the two systems.

>> Just today I had a client ask me to load Xp on her laptop as it wasn't

>> working,

>> I switched the laptop on and everything was just fine. The truth is that

>> on seeing things

>> different to what she had been used to made her draw back and reject

>> Vista.

>> This is very common and it will take time to get people over

>> pre-conceptions and so on.

>> I'm working on having all my 8 business Pc's converted to Vista and

>> already know I'll

>> have to problems with any of the peripherals (printers, scanners and

>> plotters).

>> AndyB

>>

>> "KevinD" <kjdinoc@msn.com> ha scritto nel messaggio

>> news:BCD6DA40-1722-4470-8A12-FC8A5E9533FC@microsoft.com...

>>>I have Vista Ultimate 64 Bit on my HP Notebook. Surprisingly it came

>>>preinstalled with this O/S and I couldn't be happier with it. I had very

>>>few problems from the get go, specifically one driver that did not come

>>>in a 64 Bit flavor, but the Company already had it in Beta and it was out

>>>about a month after I got my Notebook. I've now had it for 8 months and

>>>it runs beautifully - trouble free. All of my software and peripherals

>>>run perfectly.

>>>

>>> I have read so many complaints about Vista it drives me crazy. Drawing

>>> on my experience with two PC's now running it I just don't know how

>>> people can be having so much trouble with it.

>>>

>>> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

>>> news:#k2637zLIHA.3852@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> As John says one of the problems with x64 Vista is people trying to

>>>> convert to it from a 32-bit system. I've given up on quite a few Pc's

>>>> and laptops as it was to much of a hassle to convert with would be

>>>> cheaper to start over from scratch.

>>>> I believe X64 is the future and hope Microsoft concentrates more on the

>>>> system. Works as it is but can become tomorrows standard. Software is

>>>> slowly going that way and hardware manufacturers too so x64 is here to

>>>> stay and get better.

>>>>

>>>> Greetings from Milan Italy, it's getting COLD!

>>>>

>>>> ANDYB

>>>>

>>>> "Techy" <Techy@discussions.microsoft.com> ha scritto nel messaggio

>>>> news:8347301C-A2E0-4924-8FF5-72C3FD806DCF@microsoft.com...

>>>>>I also run 64 bit Vista and it works perfectly. Absolutely no problems

>>>>>here.

>>>>> Blazing fast, etc. I only wish I could set the 64 bit IE and WMP11 as

>>>>> default, but aside from that no complaints!!!

>>>>>

>>>>> I hope Microsoft pushes hard for 64 bit to come alive!

>>>>>

>>>>> "John Barnes" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Nice to see a success story. It is a good system and keeps getting

>>>>>> better.

>>>>>> It always helps if those going 64-bit start with the idea that they

>>>>>> are

>>>>>> starting over, and not to try to convert a 32-bit system.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:6C08C440-C8C8-4F77-81F0-C3FDE652C097@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> > Thought it would be a good idea to post my experience with my Vista

>>>>>> > X64

>>>>>> > system and working experience with it.

>>>>>> > Set the system up myself and after some good home work opted for

>>>>>> > the

>>>>>> > following components:

>>>>>> > M/Board: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

>>>>>> > CPU: Intel Dual Core 6600 @ 2.40HGz

>>>>>> > RAM: 4 Gb

>>>>>> > Vista: Business X64

>>>>>> > HD: Raid 0

>>>>>> > Most of my work is graphics and so I needed something stable and at

>>>>>> > the

>>>>>> > same time reliable/stable when handling heavy files with quite a

>>>>>> > range of

>>>>>> > software and so on. My initial problems were what I call "normal

>>>>>> > administration", new drivers, new software but managed to sort it

>>>>>> > all out

>>>>>> > without big problems, most of the time with the the help of this

>>>>>> > forum!,

>>>>>> > and now have the system I wanted working way beyond my initial

>>>>>> > expectations.

>>>>>> > X64 has proved to be stable and works just fine. No great hassle

>>>>>> > and

>>>>>> > whatever comes up doesn't worry me at all, went through the same

>>>>>> > experience with Xp!, and with a little care the system runs

>>>>>> > smoothly.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > On reading some of the posts I have the impression a lot of people

>>>>>> > still

>>>>>> > expect operating systems to function perfectly no matter what and a

>>>>>> > good

>>>>>> > percentage of Vista users find it difficult to move from Xp simply

>>>>>> > because

>>>>>> > they expect it to be the same. I have been submerged by people

>>>>>> > asking for

>>>>>> > help because their new Laptop isn't functioning and end results are

>>>>>> > 90%

>>>>>> > due to the users and most of the rest due to hardware, a very small

>>>>>> > percentage are due to Vista itself. It took Xp a few years, and a

>>>>>> > few

>>>>>> > Service Packs, to get through it's initial hitches and Vita will

>>>>>> > probably

>>>>>> > be the same. I started working with Vista not expecting it to be Xp

>>>>>> > so

>>>>>> > handling it as a new operating system and found myself getting

>>>>>> > through all

>>>>>> > the hitches easily and got to understand how it all works a lot

>>>>>> > better.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > I also work with a Power Mac G5 Quad - 8 Gb ram and the two systems

>>>>>> > function with the same results, which is what I wanted from the

>>>>>> > beginning.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Thanks again for your advice.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > AndyB

>>>>>> >

>>>>>>

>>>>

>>

November 28, 2007

Re: VISTA X64 WORKS FINE!

Hi, Andy.

> I have a couple of boys initially totally concentrated on games and have

> now become experts and have become part of the councils network management

> team.

Reminds me of the story of a couple of boys named Bill and Paul, in school

near Seattle over 30 years ago. ;<)

Surely you've heard how the local power company had bought new software for

their mainframe computers, but didn't have to pay for it until it was

bug-free. The company invited some boys from the local prep school to come

in at night and play with the computers - so long as they kept finding bugs,

thus postponing the payment. One boy in particular was really good at this.

His name was Bill Gates. He and his friend, Paul Allen, started their own

software company, called Traf-O-Data. A few years later, they started

Micro-Soft. And the rest, as they say, is history.

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)

"BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

news:2CE54581-B443-4ED5-9161-C5DA68B44E23@microsoft.com...

> I'm with you on that!, here in Italy Pc's have always been seen as game

> instruments and only in the last 5-7 years have things changed a little.

> In Milan we have 4/5 decent computer stores and what you find on the shelf

> is still entirely focused on this segment of clientele. As soon as you

> want something decent you either assemble it yourself, as I have been

> doing for the past 10 years, or order it online from specialized stores.

> With this kind of market the consequences are that people have trouble

> seeing the positive and productive part of a pc and with the operating

> system/software that come with them.

> A couple of evenings a week I teach youngsters to use Pc's and I avoid

> teaching how to play games with them. They are "productive" tools and it

> takes time to get them to understand that games are not all there is to

> it. As I do it through the local council the main aim is to make people

> understand that it's possible to increase your production simply by using

> the machine as a very powerful working tool. I have a couple of boys

> initially totally concentrated on games and have now become experts and

> have become part of the councils network management team. They simply saw

> the productive part of machine+operating system+software and games have

> now become the past.

> People find it hard to understand the potential of Vista and other

> software and this leads to what we are all going through with Vista non

> being fully accepted.

>

> Than you all for you comments.

>

> AndyB

November 28, 2007

Re: VISTA X64 WORKS FINE!

I too have purchased retail 64 bit Vista Utimate and did a clean install of

64 bit. It installed all drivers for me without a problem. I only have 2 gig

of memory so I changed the view to Windows Classic and runs faster. I'm happy

with it. Don't get better than 64 bit. Here is what I got to run sucessfully

on 64 bit.

Anti Vira anti virus and Avast anit virus

Spybot 1.5

Winzip

Winrar

Office 2000,XP,2003,2007

Nero 7.10

TubemAll

Java

Flashplayer

Adobe Reader

GOM Player

Yahoo Messenger 9.0 (install TP codec for voice chat to work)

Windows Live Messenger

I Tunes/Quicktime latest versions

Camtasiane Studio 3

What is there to complain about? Nothing on this end.

"Techy" wrote:

> I also run 64 bit Vista and it works perfectly. Absolutely no problems here.

> Blazing fast, etc. I only wish I could set the 64 bit IE and WMP11 as

> default, but aside from that no complaints!!!

>

> I hope Microsoft pushes hard for 64 bit to come alive!

>

> "John Barnes" wrote:

>

> > Nice to see a success story. It is a good system and keeps getting better.

> > It always helps if those going 64-bit start with the idea that they are

> > starting over, and not to try to convert a 32-bit system.

> >

> > "BENAGLIA" <benaglia.andrea@tiscali.it> wrote in message

> > news:6C08C440-C8C8-4F77-81F0-C3FDE652C097@microsoft.com...

> > > Thought it would be a good idea to post my experience with my Vista X64

> > > system and working experience with it.

> > > Set the system up myself and after some good home work opted for the

> > > following components:

> > > M/Board: Asus P5W DH Deluxe

> > > CPU: Intel Dual Core 6600 @ 2.40HGz

> > > RAM: 4 Gb

> > > Vista: Business X64

> > > HD: Raid 0

> > > Most of my work is graphics and so I needed something stable and at the

> > > same time reliable/stable when handling heavy files with quite a range of

> > > software and so on. My initial problems were what I call "normal

> > > administration", new drivers, new software but managed to sort it all out

> > > without big problems, most of the time with the the help of this forum!,

> > > and now have the system I wanted working way beyond my initial

> > > expectations.

> > > X64 has proved to be stable and works just fine. No great hassle and

> > > whatever comes up doesn't worry me at all, went through the same

> > > experience with Xp!, and with a little care the system runs smoothly.

> > >

> > > On reading some of the posts I have the impression a lot of people still

> > > expect operating systems to function perfectly no matter what and a good

> > > percentage of Vista users find it difficult to move from Xp simply because

> > > they expect it to be the same. I have been submerged by people asking for

> > > help because their new Laptop isn't functioning and end results are 90%

> > > due to the users and most of the rest due to hardware, a very small

> > > percentage are due to Vista itself. It took Xp a few years, and a few

> > > Service Packs, to get through it's initial hitches and Vita will probably

> > > be the same. I started working with Vista not expecting it to be Xp so

> > > handling it as a new operating system and found myself getting through all

> > > the hitches easily and got to understand how it all works a lot better.

> > >

> > > I also work with a Power Mac G5 Quad - 8 Gb ram and the two systems

> > > function with the same results, which is what I wanted from the beginning.

> > >

> > > Thanks again for your advice.

> > >

> > > AndyB

> > >

> >

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