Still unable to connect to XP

[Guest Ian D Samson]

My main computer is running Windows 2000 Pro SP4. My standby/new

machine runs XP Home. While I can see the computer in the list of

computers, I cannot connect to it because it says it is unable to

connect to the workgroup 'home' - the name I have given the workgroup

on both machines. Both machines are connected via 100Mbps Ethernet

Cat5 cable to a router, the router is connected to the internet via

ADSL line. I have set up each Drive C for sharing and set the correct

permissions, but when I type \\<pc name> on my machine, I get an

error, and when I type \\<mymachinename> on the other PC, I also get

an error. Is there something inherently wrong with trying to network

two different operating systems? Why does Microsoft make their

networking so difficult? Banyan VINES and Novell NetWare are a synch

compared.

 

Thanks.

[Guest Steve Parry [MVP]]

Re: Still unable to connect to XP

 

In news:79af8318-becb-4c1b-8c63-036956cbd942@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com,

Ian D Samson <iansamson3@gmail.com> wibbled

> My main computer is running Windows 2000 Pro SP4. My standby/new

> machine runs XP Home. While I can see the computer in the list of

> computers, I cannot connect to it because it says it is unable to

> connect to the workgroup 'home' - the name I have given the workgroup

> on both machines. Both machines are connected via 100Mbps Ethernet

> Cat5 cable to a router, the router is connected to the internet via

> ADSL line. I have set up each Drive C for sharing and set the correct

> permissions, but when I type \\<pc name> on my machine, I get an

> error, and when I type \\<mymachinename> on the other PC, I also get

> an error. Is there something inherently wrong with trying to network

> two different operating systems? Why does Microsoft make their

> networking so difficult? Banyan VINES and Novell NetWare are a synch

> compared.

>

> Thanks.

 

what happens if you type \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where the x's are the IP

address's of each machine rather than the names

--

Steve Parry MCP MVP

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

[Guest Ian D Samson]

Re: Still unable to connect to XP

 

On Nov 29, 2:13 pm, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

<k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> Innews:79af8318-becb-4c1b-8c63-036956cbd942@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com,

> Ian D Samson <iansams...@gmail.com> wibbled

>

> > My main computer is running Windows 2000 Pro SP4. My standby/new

> > machine runs XP Home. While I can see the computer in the list of

> > computers, I cannot connect to it because it says it is unable to

> > connect to the workgroup 'home' - the name I have given the workgroup

> > on both machines. Both machines are connected via 100Mbps Ethernet

> > Cat5 cable to a router, the router is connected to the internet via

> > ADSL line. I have set up each Drive C for sharing and set the correct

> > permissions, but when I type \\<pc name> on my machine, I get an

> > error, and when I type \\<mymachinename> on the other PC, I also get

> > an error. Is there something inherently wrong with trying to network

> > two different operating systems? Why does Microsoft make their

> > networking so difficult? Banyan VINES and Novell NetWare are a synch

> > compared.

>

> > Thanks.

>

> what happens if you type \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where the x's are the IP

> addresses of each machine rather than the names

> --

> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk

 

Hi Steve, THANKS!! I typed \\10.0.0.34\ and immediately got in. Now I

have to check the permissions on folders to allow "remote support"

because all users but the Default User and All Users folders I am

denied access, so I can only assume it's got something to do with the

permissions. I also need to block access from the other machine to

various private folders on my machine to stop quizzy people from

looking at my files.

 

Thanks again.

Ian

[Guest Steve Parry [MVP]]

Re: Still unable to connect to XP

 

In news:cf8d2170-1b52-485b-9295-b5ee2e875321@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com,

Ian D Samson <iansamson3@gmail.com> wibbled

> On Nov 29, 2:13 pm, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

> <k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Innews:79af8318-becb-4c1b-8c63-036956cbd942@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com,

>> Ian D Samson <iansams...@gmail.com> wibbled

>>

>>> My main computer is running Windows 2000 Pro SP4. My standby/new

>>> machine runs XP Home. While I can see the computer in the list of

>>> computers, I cannot connect to it because it says it is unable to

>>> connect to the workgroup 'home' - the name I have given the

>>> workgroup on both machines. Both machines are connected via 100Mbps

>>> Ethernet Cat5 cable to a router, the router is connected to the

>>> internet via ADSL line. I have set up each Drive C for sharing and

>>> set the correct permissions, but when I type \\<pc name> on my

>>> machine, I get an error, and when I type \\<mymachinename> on the

>>> other PC, I also get an error. Is there something inherently wrong

>>> with trying to network two different operating systems? Why does

>>> Microsoft make their networking so difficult? Banyan VINES and

>>> Novell NetWare are a synch compared.

>>

>>> Thanks.

>>

>> what happens if you type \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where the x's are the IP

>> addresses of each machine rather than the names

>> --

>> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk

>

> Hi Steve, THANKS!! I typed \\10.0.0.34\ and immediately got in. Now I

> have to check the permissions on folders to allow "remote support"

> because all users but the Default User and All Users folders I am

> denied access, so I can only assume it's got something to do with the

> permissions. I also need to block access from the other machine to

> various private folders on my machine to stop quizzy people from

> looking at my files.

>

> Thanks again.

> Ian

 

No probs, all it is is name resolution not working :)

 

Thanks for the feedback

 

--

Steve Parry MCP MVP

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

[Guest Ian D Samson]

Re: Still unable to connect to XP

 

On Nov 29, 3:32 pm, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

<k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> Innews:cf8d2170-1b52-485b-9295-b5ee2e875321@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com,

> Ian D Samson <iansams...@gmail.com> wibbled

>

>

>

>

>

> > On Nov 29, 2:13 pm, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

> > <k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> >> Innews:79af8318-becb-4c1b-8c63-036956cbd942@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com,

> >> Ian D Samson <iansams...@gmail.com> wibbled

>

> >>> My main computer is running Windows 2000 Pro SP4. My standby/new

> >>> machine runs XP Home. While I can see the computer in the list of

> >>> computers, I cannot connect to it because it says it is unable to

> >>> connect to the workgroup 'home' - the name I have given the

> >>> workgroup on both machines. Both machines are connected via 100Mbps

> >>> Ethernet Cat5 cable to a router, the router is connected to the

> >>> internet via ADSL line. I have set up each Drive C for sharing and

> >>> set the correct permissions, but when I type \\<pc name> on my

> >>> machine, I get an error, and when I type \\<mymachinename> on the

> >>> other PC, I also get an error. Is there something inherently wrong

> >>> with trying to network two different operating systems? Why does

> >>> Microsoft make their networking so difficult? Banyan VINES and

> >>> Novell NetWare are a synch compared.

>

> >>> Thanks.

>

> >> what happens if you type \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where the x's are the IP

> >> addresses of each machine rather than the names

> >> --

> >> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk

>

> > Hi Steve, THANKS!! I typed \\10.0.0.34\ and immediately got in. Now I

> > have to check the permissions on folders to allow "remote support"

> > because all users but the Default User and All Users folders I am

> > denied access, so I can only assume it's got something to do with the

> > permissions. I also need to block access from the other machine to

> > various private folders on my machine to stop quizzy people from

> > looking at my files.

>

> > Thanks again.

> > Ian

>

> No probs, all it is is name resolution not working :)

>

> Thanks for the feedback

>

> --

> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk- Hide quoted text -

>

> - Show quoted text -

 

So do I need to switch on the W2K/XP DNS? I would do that in UNIX

anyway.

[Guest Steve Parry [MVP]]

Re: Still unable to connect to XP

 

In news:6f16bca7-5f28-43b9-9df8-255e67622366@y20g2000hsy.googlegroups.com,

Ian D Samson <iansamson3@gmail.com> wibbled

> On Nov 29, 3:32 pm, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

> <k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Innews:cf8d2170-1b52-485b-9295-b5ee2e875321@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com,

>> Ian D Samson <iansams...@gmail.com> wibbled

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> On Nov 29, 2:13 pm, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

>>> <k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Innews:79af8318-becb-4c1b-8c63-036956cbd942@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com,

>>>> Ian D Samson <iansams...@gmail.com> wibbled

>>

>>>>> My main computer is running Windows 2000 Pro SP4. My standby/new

>>>>> machine runs XP Home. While I can see the computer in the list of

>>>>> computers, I cannot connect to it because it says it is unable to

>>>>> connect to the workgroup 'home' - the name I have given the

>>>>> workgroup on both machines. Both machines are connected via

>>>>> 100Mbps Ethernet Cat5 cable to a router, the router is connected

>>>>> to the internet via ADSL line. I have set up each Drive C for

>>>>> sharing and set the correct permissions, but when I type \\<pc

>>>>> name> on my machine, I get an error, and when I type

>>>>> \\<mymachinename> on the other PC, I also get an error. Is there

>>>>> something inherently wrong with trying to network two different

>>>>> operating systems? Why does Microsoft make their networking so

>>>>> difficult? Banyan VINES and Novell NetWare are a synch compared.

>>

>>>>> Thanks.

>>

>>>> what happens if you type \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where the x's are the IP

>>>> addresses of each machine rather than the names

>>>> --

>>>> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk

>>

>>> Hi Steve, THANKS!! I typed \\10.0.0.34\ and immediately got in. Now

>>> I have to check the permissions on folders to allow "remote support"

>>> because all users but the Default User and All Users folders I am

>>> denied access, so I can only assume it's got something to do with

>>> the permissions. I also need to block access from the other machine

>>> to various private folders on my machine to stop quizzy people from

>>> looking at my files.

>>

>>> Thanks again.

>>> Ian

>>

>> No probs, all it is is name resolution not working :)

>>

>> Thanks for the feedback

>>

>> --

>> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk- Hide quoted text -

>>

>> - Show quoted text -

>

> So do I need to switch on the W2K/XP DNS? I would do that in UNIX

> anyway.

 

Switch on ? If you have DNS servers on your network you should have the

settings entered anyway.

 

There's a radio button in the WINS tab of your network settings that has

"Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" try setting that to see if it helps.

Alternatively you could put the address's of each machine in each others

HOSTS file.

 

 

 

--

Steve Parry MCP MVP

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

[Guest Ian D Samson]

Re: Still unable to connect to XP

 

On Nov 30, 3:18 am, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

<k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> Innews:6f16bca7-5f28-43b9-9df8-255e67622366@y20g2000hsy.googlegroups.com,

> Ian D Samson <iansams...@gmail.com> wibbled

>

>

>

>

>

> > On Nov 29, 3:32 pm, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

> > <k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> >> Innews:cf8d2170-1b52-485b-9295-b5ee2e875321@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com,

> >> Ian D Samson <iansams...@gmail.com> wibbled

>

> >>> On Nov 29, 2:13 pm, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

> >>> <k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> >>>> Innews:79af8318-becb-4c1b-8c63-036956cbd942@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com,

> >>>> Ian D Samson <iansams...@gmail.com> wibbled

>

> >>>>> My main computer is running Windows 2000 Pro SP4. My standby/new

> >>>>> machine runs XP Home. While I can see the computer in the list of

> >>>>> computers, I cannot connect to it because it says it is unable to

> >>>>> connect to the workgroup 'home' - the name I have given the

> >>>>> workgroup on both machines. Both machines are connected via

> >>>>> 100Mbps Ethernet Cat5 cable to a router, the router is connected

> >>>>> to the internet via ADSL line. I have set up each Drive C for

> >>>>> sharing and set the correct permissions, but when I type \\<pc

> >>>>> name> on my machine, I get an error, and when I type

> >>>>> \\<mymachinename> on the other PC, I also get an error. Is there

> >>>>> something inherently wrong with trying to network two different

> >>>>> operating systems? Why does Microsoft make their networking so

> >>>>> difficult? Banyan VINES and Novell NetWare are a synch compared.

>

> >>>>> Thanks.

>

> >>>> what happens if you type \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where the x's are the IP

> >>>> addresses of each machine rather than the names

> >>>> --

> >>>> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk

>

> >>> Hi Steve, THANKS!! I typed \\10.0.0.34\ and immediately got in. Now

> >>> I have to check the permissions on folders to allow "remote support"

> >>> because all users but the Default User and All Users folders I am

> >>> denied access, so I can only assume it's got something to do with

> >>> the permissions. I also need to block access from the other machine

> >>> to various private folders on my machine to stop quizzy people from

> >>> looking at my files.

>

> >>> Thanks again.

> >>> Ian

>

> >> No probs, all it is is name resolution not working :)

>

> >> Thanks for the feedback

>

> >> --

> >> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk-Hide quoted text -

>

> >> - Show quoted text -

>

> > So do I need to switch on the W2K/XP DNS? I would do that in UNIX

> > anyway.

>

> Switch on ? If you have DNS servers on your network you should have the

> settings entered anyway.

>

> There's a radio button in the WINS tab of your network settings that has

> "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" try setting that to see if it helps.

> Alternatively you could put the address's of each machine in each others

> HOSTS file.

>

> --

> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk- Hide quoted text -

>

> - Show quoted text -

 

Thank you Steve, I have enabled NetBIOS over TCPIP and everything

works great, except even though I am logged into the XP machine as

Administrator, it will not allow me to change group folder rights. I

have to go to the actual machine and do it there, I have remote

administration on, but that doesn't seem to help at all. I need to be

able to administer all 3 machines from my W2K desktop, without having

the hassle of going to each machine, logging the user out, logging

myself in as Administrator, changing the security/sharing settings,

log out, log in, ad nauseum!