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I would like to dual boot Vista 64 with Vista 32 which I will use as a

backup for compatibility problems with Vista 64 such as running Cisco's VPN.

 

I've read:

http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

 

Which discusses making a Vista 32 which is installed first dual boot with XP

installed second. I assume a similar procedure would be followed for a dual

boot Vista 32 and 64 install. Am I correct?

 

Also, are the files (such as MS Word 2007) transferable between Vista 32 and

Vista 64?

TIA

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Guest Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Guest Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

Because they are the same version, both Vista 32 and 64 bit are

interchangeable, it doesn't matter which one you install first, just make

sure they are installed on separate drives or partitions. As for

transferring applications between the two, its possiblem but not reliable

especially since both are still architectually different. You will probably

receive that registry setting errors or the application is not installed

correctly.

 

But if you do install say Microsoft Word on Vista x64, you could try running

it from Vista x86 but browsing to the Program files (x86) /Microsoft Office

folder on the Vista x64 partition and launch the winword executable. Again,

not recommended.

--

Andre

Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

My Vista Quickstart Guide:

http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

news:CEC2C3EA-1705-4EB1-BE68-D29450DDA7BE@microsoft.com...

>I would like to dual boot Vista 64 with Vista 32 which I will use as a

>backup for compatibility problems with Vista 64 such as running Cisco's

>VPN.

>

> I've read:

> http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

>

> Which discusses making a Vista 32 which is installed first dual boot with

> XP installed second. I assume a similar procedure would be followed for a

> dual boot Vista 32 and 64 install. Am I correct?

>

> Also, are the files (such as MS Word 2007) transferable between Vista 32

> and Vista 64?

> TIA

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

Dual booting is certainly doable. It's not actually as hard as that link.

Since they're both the same rev, you don't need to do anything special. Just

be sure to install them on separate partitions. Also, let's be completely

clear. You need TWO copies of Vista to do this. You can't use one copy for

both under the licensing MS uses.

 

On applications? No, they will each need to be separately installed for each

version of Windows. And, depending on the licensing, you again may need two

copies.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

news:CEC2C3EA-1705-4EB1-BE68-D29450DDA7BE@microsoft.com...

>I would like to dual boot Vista 64 with Vista 32 which I will use as a

>backup for compatibility problems with Vista 64 such as running Cisco's

>VPN.

>

> I've read:

> http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

>

> Which discusses making a Vista 32 which is installed first dual boot with

> XP installed second. I assume a similar procedure would be followed for a

> dual boot Vista 32 and 64 install. Am I correct?

>

> Also, are the files (such as MS Word 2007) transferable between Vista 32

> and Vista 64?

> TIA

Guest philo

Guest philo

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

 

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

news:CEC2C3EA-1705-4EB1-BE68-D29450DDA7BE@microsoft.com...

> I would like to dual boot Vista 64 with Vista 32 which I will use as a

> backup for compatibility problems with Vista 64 such as running Cisco's

VPN.

>

> I've read:

> http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

>

> Which discusses making a Vista 32 which is installed first dual boot with

XP

> installed second. I assume a similar procedure would be followed for a

dual

> boot Vista 32 and 64 install. Am I correct?

>

> Also, are the files (such as MS Word 2007) transferable between Vista 32

and

> Vista 64?

> TIA

>

 

 

Instal each OS on a *seperate* partition.

 

as far as your data goes...

it does not matter which OS created it...a word document is a word document!

Guest David F

Guest David F

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

Thanks for the quick, detailed reply. I only want to be able to use

application documents (e.g. Word 2007 *.doc) on both 32 and 64. I would

install separate applications in both versions. That would work, correct?

 

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%231Sssl4NIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Because they are the same version, both Vista 32 and 64 bit are

> interchangeable, it doesn't matter which one you install first, just make

> sure they are installed on separate drives or partitions. As for

> transferring applications between the two, its possiblem but not reliable

> especially since both are still architectually different. You will

> probably receive that registry setting errors or the application is not

> installed correctly.

>

> But if you do install say Microsoft Word on Vista x64, you could try

> running it from Vista x86 but browsing to the Program files (x86)

> /Microsoft Office folder on the Vista x64 partition and launch the winword

> executable. Again, not recommended.

> --

> Andre

> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

> news:CEC2C3EA-1705-4EB1-BE68-D29450DDA7BE@microsoft.com...

>>I would like to dual boot Vista 64 with Vista 32 which I will use as a

>>backup for compatibility problems with Vista 64 such as running Cisco's

>>VPN.

>>

>> I've read:

>> http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

>>

>> Which discusses making a Vista 32 which is installed first dual boot with

>> XP installed second. I assume a similar procedure would be followed for

>> a dual boot Vista 32 and 64 install. Am I correct?

>>

>> Also, are the files (such as MS Word 2007) transferable between Vista 32

>> and Vista 64?

>> TIA

>

>

Guest philo

Guest philo

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

 

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

news:5EDFD39D-FA4C-4886-92CD-5B665D0A39AE@microsoft.com...

> Thanks for the quick, detailed reply. I only want to be able to use

> application documents (e.g. Word 2007 *.doc) on both 32 and 64. I would

> install separate applications in both versions. That would work, correct?

>

 

 

That would work...but if you are just going to be using Microsoft Word...

you hardly need a 64 bit OS to do that...

I'd reserve Vista_64 for heavy apps that can take advantage of 64bit

extensions

Guest Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Guest Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

That would be a sure way to do it, however, if you are going to install your

existing copy of Microsoft Office 2007 on both installations, you will need

to have a license for both operating systems.

--

Andre

Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

My Vista Quickstart Guide:

http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

news:5EDFD39D-FA4C-4886-92CD-5B665D0A39AE@microsoft.com...

> Thanks for the quick, detailed reply. I only want to be able to use

> application documents (e.g. Word 2007 *.doc) on both 32 and 64. I would

> install separate applications in both versions. That would work, correct?

>

> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%231Sssl4NIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Because they are the same version, both Vista 32 and 64 bit are

>> interchangeable, it doesn't matter which one you install first, just make

>> sure they are installed on separate drives or partitions. As for

>> transferring applications between the two, its possiblem but not reliable

>> especially since both are still architectually different. You will

>> probably receive that registry setting errors or the application is not

>> installed correctly.

>>

>> But if you do install say Microsoft Word on Vista x64, you could try

>> running it from Vista x86 but browsing to the Program files (x86)

>> /Microsoft Office folder on the Vista x64 partition and launch the

>> winword executable. Again, not recommended.

>> --

>> Andre

>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

>> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

>> news:CEC2C3EA-1705-4EB1-BE68-D29450DDA7BE@microsoft.com...

>>>I would like to dual boot Vista 64 with Vista 32 which I will use as a

>>>backup for compatibility problems with Vista 64 such as running Cisco's

>>>VPN.

>>>

>>> I've read:

>>> http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

>>>

>>> Which discusses making a Vista 32 which is installed first dual boot

>>> with XP installed second. I assume a similar procedure would be

>>> followed for a dual boot Vista 32 and 64 install. Am I correct?

>>>

>>> Also, are the files (such as MS Word 2007) transferable between Vista 32

>>> and Vista 64?

>>> TIA

>>

>>

>

Guest Andrew McLaren

Guest Andrew McLaren

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

>I would like to dual boot Vista 64 with Vista 32 which I will use as a

>backup for compatibility problems with Vista 64 such as running Cisco's

>VPN.

> Also, are the files (such as MS Word 2007) transferable between Vista 32

> and Vista 64?

 

Hi David,

 

Not sure about the dual-boot thing, but ... be aware that you wil need to

purchase TWO Vista licences if you want to run both 32-bit and 64 bit Vista.

 

If you buy Vista in the retail pack, both 32-bit and 64 bit are included.

But to activate them both on the same machine, you will need two activation

keys. Yep, even on the same hardware! If you activate your 32-bit Vista,

then try to activate your 64-bit Vista with the same key (or vice versa),

you will get an error that the activation key is already in use.

 

Also, I would strongly recommend using a virtual machine tool, such as

Virtual PC or VMWare, instead of dual booting. Virtual PC is a free download

from Microsoft:

 

Virtual PC 2007

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx

 

I have run a VPN client from within a Virtual PC machine, it worked fine. By

using a VM, you can have your 32-bit and 64-bit versions running

side-by-side, alt-tabbing between them, sharing files etc in real-time;

instead of needing to shut down and reboot, to switch between versions.

Install 64-bit Vista on the physical hardware, then install Virtual PC, then

create a new VM ("virtual machine") in VPC, then install 32-bit Vista into

the VM.

 

Other folks may be able to help you with the dual boot scenario, if you

really want to go that way. Personally, I have long since given up on

dual-booting, it is too much hassle and too error-prone. Whereas VMs "just

work". Main proviso is you'll want 2GB of RAM, or more, to support a VM.

 

Application data files (such as Word 2007 docs) work exactly the same on

32-bit and 64-bit Windows. Even on 64-bit Vista, Word runs as a 32-bit

application (there's no 64-bit version of Office).

 

Hope it helps,

--

Andrew McLaren

amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

Guest David F

Guest David F

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

Hi Andrew,

I'd like to go the VPC route but I'm a bit worried about hardware not

compatible with 64 bit mode and thanks to the VPC which does not support all

hardware (e.g. USB) unable to access it with 32 bit. Is this a possibility?

I travel a lot and might have a situation where I want to install some

hardware for something....

 

"Andrew McLaren" <andrew@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message

news:F5C52101-829F-443B-B5BE-DE02E47FC47A@microsoft.com...

> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

>>I would like to dual boot Vista 64 with Vista 32 which I will use as a

>>backup for compatibility problems with Vista 64 such as running Cisco's

>>VPN.

>> Also, are the files (such as MS Word 2007) transferable between Vista 32

>> and Vista 64?

>

> Hi David,

>

> Not sure about the dual-boot thing, but ... be aware that you wil need to

> purchase TWO Vista licences if you want to run both 32-bit and 64 bit

> Vista.

>

> If you buy Vista in the retail pack, both 32-bit and 64 bit are included.

> But to activate them both on the same machine, you will need two

> activation keys. Yep, even on the same hardware! If you activate your

> 32-bit Vista, then try to activate your 64-bit Vista with the same key (or

> vice versa), you will get an error that the activation key is already in

> use.

>

> Also, I would strongly recommend using a virtual machine tool, such as

> Virtual PC or VMWare, instead of dual booting. Virtual PC is a free

> download from Microsoft:

>

> Virtual PC 2007

>

> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx

>

> I have run a VPN client from within a Virtual PC machine, it worked fine.

> By using a VM, you can have your 32-bit and 64-bit versions running

> side-by-side, alt-tabbing between them, sharing files etc in real-time;

> instead of needing to shut down and reboot, to switch between versions.

> Install 64-bit Vista on the physical hardware, then install Virtual PC,

> then create a new VM ("virtual machine") in VPC, then install 32-bit Vista

> into the VM.

>

> Other folks may be able to help you with the dual boot scenario, if you

> really want to go that way. Personally, I have long since given up on

> dual-booting, it is too much hassle and too error-prone. Whereas VMs "just

> work". Main proviso is you'll want 2GB of RAM, or more, to support a VM.

>

> Application data files (such as Word 2007 docs) work exactly the same on

> 32-bit and 64-bit Windows. Even on 64-bit Vista, Word runs as a 32-bit

> application (there's no 64-bit version of Office).

>

> Hope it helps,

> --

> Andrew McLaren

> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

>

Guest Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Guest Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

If you want to run Vista x64 in a Virtual Machine, the best recommendation

is VMWare Workstation which supports USB 2.0 devices.

--

Andre

Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

My Vista Quickstart Guide:

http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

news:221D92B3-5205-412F-A37E-F0657497698F@microsoft.com...

> Hi Andrew,

> I'd like to go the VPC route but I'm a bit worried about hardware not

> compatible with 64 bit mode and thanks to the VPC which does not support

> all hardware (e.g. USB) unable to access it with 32 bit. Is this a

> possibility? I travel a lot and might have a situation where I want to

> install some hardware for something....

>

> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message

> news:F5C52101-829F-443B-B5BE-DE02E47FC47A@microsoft.com...

>> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

>>>I would like to dual boot Vista 64 with Vista 32 which I will use as a

>>>backup for compatibility problems with Vista 64 such as running Cisco's

>>>VPN.

>>> Also, are the files (such as MS Word 2007) transferable between Vista 32

>>> and Vista 64?

>>

>> Hi David,

>>

>> Not sure about the dual-boot thing, but ... be aware that you wil need to

>> purchase TWO Vista licences if you want to run both 32-bit and 64 bit

>> Vista.

>>

>> If you buy Vista in the retail pack, both 32-bit and 64 bit are included.

>> But to activate them both on the same machine, you will need two

>> activation keys. Yep, even on the same hardware! If you activate your

>> 32-bit Vista, then try to activate your 64-bit Vista with the same key

>> (or vice versa), you will get an error that the activation key is already

>> in use.

>>

>> Also, I would strongly recommend using a virtual machine tool, such as

>> Virtual PC or VMWare, instead of dual booting. Virtual PC is a free

>> download from Microsoft:

>>

>> Virtual PC 2007

>>

>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx

>>

>> I have run a VPN client from within a Virtual PC machine, it worked fine.

>> By using a VM, you can have your 32-bit and 64-bit versions running

>> side-by-side, alt-tabbing between them, sharing files etc in real-time;

>> instead of needing to shut down and reboot, to switch between versions.

>> Install 64-bit Vista on the physical hardware, then install Virtual PC,

>> then create a new VM ("virtual machine") in VPC, then install 32-bit

>> Vista into the VM.

>>

>> Other folks may be able to help you with the dual boot scenario, if you

>> really want to go that way. Personally, I have long since given up on

>> dual-booting, it is too much hassle and too error-prone. Whereas VMs

>> "just work". Main proviso is you'll want 2GB of RAM, or more, to support

>> a VM.

>>

>> Application data files (such as Word 2007 docs) work exactly the same on

>> 32-bit and 64-bit Windows. Even on 64-bit Vista, Word runs as a 32-bit

>> application (there's no 64-bit version of Office).

>>

>> Hope it helps,

>> --

>> Andrew McLaren

>> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

>>

>

Guest Andrew McLaren

Guest Andrew McLaren

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

> I'd like to go the VPC route but I'm a bit worried about hardware not

> compatible with 64 bit mode and thanks to the VPC which does not support

> all hardware (e.g. USB) unable to access it with 32 bit. Is this a

> possibility? I travel a lot and might have a situation where I want to

> install some hardware for something....

 

If you need USB ports in the VM, then as Andre correctly notes, you would

need to use VMWare.

 

Virtual PC and VMWare can both run as 32-bit or 64-bit hosts (applications);

ie, you can run 64-bit VMWare, or 64-bit Virtual PC, on 64-bit Windows.

VMWare allows you to have 64-bit guests, but only if you have a 64-bit CPU

in the host machine - you can't run a 64-bit guest on a 32-bit host. Virtual

PC only allows 32-bit guests. In my experience, whether you use VMWare or

Virtual PC, you'd want to have a 32-bit guest running on top of a 64-bit

host, that gives best performance all round.

 

I use both Virtual PC and VMware Workstation, they are both good products.

VMWare has some useful extra features, but then you need to pay for it.

 

If the hardware device is a USB Smartcard Reader, you can work around

Virtual PC's lack of USB support by attaching your smartcard to the host

machine, then opening a Remote Desktop session to the guest. In the Remote

Desktop client (mstsc.exe), select the option to share the smartcard in the

Remote Desktop session. Your smartcard is then available inside the guest

when you RDP into it, even though you don't have a USB port (clear as mud?

:-)

 

--

Andrew McLaren

amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

Guest David F

Guest David F

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

Actually, I can set it up so that I'm running 32 bit Vista as a virtual

machine, my question is just that will there be some sort of hardware

support problem if there is not a driver I need for Vista 64, the host and I

need to run it in Vista 32 guest which may not have hardware support because

it is a virtual machine?

 

Also, isn't there a significant performance hit for running a virtual

machine even with 4 GB RAM in a 64 bit host?

 

 

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23nYITT5NIHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> If you want to run Vista x64 in a Virtual Machine, the best recommendation

> is VMWare Workstation which supports USB 2.0 devices.

> --

> Andre

> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

> news:221D92B3-5205-412F-A37E-F0657497698F@microsoft.com...

>> Hi Andrew,

>> I'd like to go the VPC route but I'm a bit worried about hardware not

>> compatible with 64 bit mode and thanks to the VPC which does not support

>> all hardware (e.g. USB) unable to access it with 32 bit. Is this a

>> possibility? I travel a lot and might have a situation where I want to

>> install some hardware for something....

>>

>> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message

>> news:F5C52101-829F-443B-B5BE-DE02E47FC47A@microsoft.com...

>>> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

>>>>I would like to dual boot Vista 64 with Vista 32 which I will use as a

>>>>backup for compatibility problems with Vista 64 such as running Cisco's

>>>>VPN.

>>>> Also, are the files (such as MS Word 2007) transferable between Vista

>>>> 32 and Vista 64?

>>>

>>> Hi David,

>>>

>>> Not sure about the dual-boot thing, but ... be aware that you wil need

>>> to purchase TWO Vista licences if you want to run both 32-bit and 64 bit

>>> Vista.

>>>

>>> If you buy Vista in the retail pack, both 32-bit and 64 bit are

>>> included. But to activate them both on the same machine, you will need

>>> two activation keys. Yep, even on the same hardware! If you activate

>>> your 32-bit Vista, then try to activate your 64-bit Vista with the same

>>> key (or vice versa), you will get an error that the activation key is

>>> already in use.

>>>

>>> Also, I would strongly recommend using a virtual machine tool, such as

>>> Virtual PC or VMWare, instead of dual booting. Virtual PC is a free

>>> download from Microsoft:

>>>

>>> Virtual PC 2007

>>>

>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx

>>>

>>> I have run a VPN client from within a Virtual PC machine, it worked

>>> fine. By using a VM, you can have your 32-bit and 64-bit versions

>>> running side-by-side, alt-tabbing between them, sharing files etc in

>>> real-time; instead of needing to shut down and reboot, to switch between

>>> versions. Install 64-bit Vista on the physical hardware, then install

>>> Virtual PC, then create a new VM ("virtual machine") in VPC, then

>>> install 32-bit Vista into the VM.

>>>

>>> Other folks may be able to help you with the dual boot scenario, if you

>>> really want to go that way. Personally, I have long since given up on

>>> dual-booting, it is too much hassle and too error-prone. Whereas VMs

>>> "just work". Main proviso is you'll want 2GB of RAM, or more, to support

>>> a VM.

>>>

>>> Application data files (such as Word 2007 docs) work exactly the same on

>>> 32-bit and 64-bit Windows. Even on 64-bit Vista, Word runs as a 32-bit

>>> application (there's no 64-bit version of Office).

>>>

>>> Hope it helps,

>>> --

>>> Andrew McLaren

>>> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

>>>

>>

>

>

Guest Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Guest Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

If you are running Vista x86 or x64 in a Virtual Machine, its not really for

performance purposes but more for convenience sake. Whether its to use a

particular application or device thats not compatible yet. As for device

driver issues, you just have to do the research first to find out if your

devices and applications are supported.

 

I have never assigned a Virtual Machine with 4 GBs of RAM simply because I

don't have that much in my systems and I don't usually assign no more than 1

GB to 1.5 GB. I am still confused about what you really want to do. Is there

a specific purpose you need to have access to both platforms?

--

Andre

Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

My Vista Quickstart Guide:

http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

news:B343948A-432A-4049-8E53-6CA93CC5D32D@microsoft.com...

> Actually, I can set it up so that I'm running 32 bit Vista as a virtual

> machine, my question is just that will there be some sort of hardware

> support problem if there is not a driver I need for Vista 64, the host and

> I need to run it in Vista 32 guest which may not have hardware support

> because it is a virtual machine?

>

> Also, isn't there a significant performance hit for running a virtual

> machine even with 4 GB RAM in a 64 bit host?

>

>

> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23nYITT5NIHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> If you want to run Vista x64 in a Virtual Machine, the best

>> recommendation is VMWare Workstation which supports USB 2.0 devices.

>> --

>> Andre

>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

>> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

>> news:221D92B3-5205-412F-A37E-F0657497698F@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi Andrew,

>>> I'd like to go the VPC route but I'm a bit worried about hardware not

>>> compatible with 64 bit mode and thanks to the VPC which does not support

>>> all hardware (e.g. USB) unable to access it with 32 bit. Is this a

>>> possibility? I travel a lot and might have a situation where I want to

>>> install some hardware for something....

>>>

>>> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message

>>> news:F5C52101-829F-443B-B5BE-DE02E47FC47A@microsoft.com...

>>>> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

>>>>>I would like to dual boot Vista 64 with Vista 32 which I will use as a

>>>>>backup for compatibility problems with Vista 64 such as running Cisco's

>>>>>VPN.

>>>>> Also, are the files (such as MS Word 2007) transferable between Vista

>>>>> 32 and Vista 64?

>>>>

>>>> Hi David,

>>>>

>>>> Not sure about the dual-boot thing, but ... be aware that you wil need

>>>> to purchase TWO Vista licences if you want to run both 32-bit and 64

>>>> bit Vista.

>>>>

>>>> If you buy Vista in the retail pack, both 32-bit and 64 bit are

>>>> included. But to activate them both on the same machine, you will need

>>>> two activation keys. Yep, even on the same hardware! If you activate

>>>> your 32-bit Vista, then try to activate your 64-bit Vista with the same

>>>> key (or vice versa), you will get an error that the activation key is

>>>> already in use.

>>>>

>>>> Also, I would strongly recommend using a virtual machine tool, such as

>>>> Virtual PC or VMWare, instead of dual booting. Virtual PC is a free

>>>> download from Microsoft:

>>>>

>>>> Virtual PC 2007

>>>>

>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx

>>>>

>>>> I have run a VPN client from within a Virtual PC machine, it worked

>>>> fine. By using a VM, you can have your 32-bit and 64-bit versions

>>>> running side-by-side, alt-tabbing between them, sharing files etc in

>>>> real-time; instead of needing to shut down and reboot, to switch

>>>> between versions. Install 64-bit Vista on the physical hardware, then

>>>> install Virtual PC, then create a new VM ("virtual machine") in VPC,

>>>> then install 32-bit Vista into the VM.

>>>>

>>>> Other folks may be able to help you with the dual boot scenario, if you

>>>> really want to go that way. Personally, I have long since given up on

>>>> dual-booting, it is too much hassle and too error-prone. Whereas VMs

>>>> "just work". Main proviso is you'll want 2GB of RAM, or more, to

>>>> support a VM.

>>>>

>>>> Application data files (such as Word 2007 docs) work exactly the same

>>>> on 32-bit and 64-bit Windows. Even on 64-bit Vista, Word runs as a

>>>> 32-bit application (there's no 64-bit version of Office).

>>>>

>>>> Hope it helps,

>>>> --

>>>> Andrew McLaren

>>>> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest David F

Guest David F

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

Thanks for the great suggestions...is there a FAQ somewhere that addresses

these questions? I once saw a VPC FAQ, but it didn't seem to address my

questions...

 

One thing I'm thinking about is that I have a PCMCIA EVDO Rev A. AC 595

Verizon Broadband Aircard. I can run this in the 64 bit host environment,

but I would also need it when running the Cicso VPN client which runs only

in 32 bit mode in what would be the guest. Would the PCMCIA Aircard work

with the 32 bit guest or is there a way to make a pass through to the host

as in the USB method you suggested? TIA

 

 

"Andrew McLaren" <andrew@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message

news:161E10B1-4B9D-406E-A8DD-DA4B1C0C3745@microsoft.com...

> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

>> I'd like to go the VPC route but I'm a bit worried about hardware not

>> compatible with 64 bit mode and thanks to the VPC which does not support

>> all hardware (e.g. USB) unable to access it with 32 bit. Is this a

>> possibility? I travel a lot and might have a situation where I want to

>> install some hardware for something....

>

> If you need USB ports in the VM, then as Andre correctly notes, you would

> need to use VMWare.

>

> Virtual PC and VMWare can both run as 32-bit or 64-bit hosts

> (applications); ie, you can run 64-bit VMWare, or 64-bit Virtual PC, on

> 64-bit Windows. VMWare allows you to have 64-bit guests, but only if you

> have a 64-bit CPU in the host machine - you can't run a 64-bit guest on a

> 32-bit host. Virtual PC only allows 32-bit guests. In my experience,

> whether you use VMWare or Virtual PC, you'd want to have a 32-bit guest

> running on top of a 64-bit host, that gives best performance all round.

>

> I use both Virtual PC and VMware Workstation, they are both good products.

> VMWare has some useful extra features, but then you need to pay for it.

>

> If the hardware device is a USB Smartcard Reader, you can work around

> Virtual PC's lack of USB support by attaching your smartcard to the host

> machine, then opening a Remote Desktop session to the guest. In the Remote

> Desktop client (mstsc.exe), select the option to share the smartcard in

> the Remote Desktop session. Your smartcard is then available inside the

> guest when you RDP into it, even though you don't have a USB port (clear

> as mud? :-)

>

> --

> Andrew McLaren

> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

>

Guest David F

Guest David F

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

I had forgotten that there are USB Verizon Broadband modems so I could use

that. Still will my PCMCIA solution work?

 

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

news:OAoTv4BOIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Thanks for the great suggestions...is there a FAQ somewhere that addresses

> these questions? I once saw a VPC FAQ, but it didn't seem to address my

> questions...

>

> One thing I'm thinking about is that I have a PCMCIA EVDO Rev A. AC 595

> Verizon Broadband Aircard. I can run this in the 64 bit host environment,

> but I would also need it when running the Cicso VPN client which runs only

> in 32 bit mode in what would be the guest. Would the PCMCIA Aircard work

> with the 32 bit guest or is there a way to make a pass through to the host

> as in the USB method you suggested? TIA

>

>

> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message

> news:161E10B1-4B9D-406E-A8DD-DA4B1C0C3745@microsoft.com...

>> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

>>> I'd like to go the VPC route but I'm a bit worried about hardware not

>>> compatible with 64 bit mode and thanks to the VPC which does not support

>>> all hardware (e.g. USB) unable to access it with 32 bit. Is this a

>>> possibility? I travel a lot and might have a situation where I want to

>>> install some hardware for something....

>>

>> If you need USB ports in the VM, then as Andre correctly notes, you would

>> need to use VMWare.

>>

>> Virtual PC and VMWare can both run as 32-bit or 64-bit hosts

>> (applications); ie, you can run 64-bit VMWare, or 64-bit Virtual PC, on

>> 64-bit Windows. VMWare allows you to have 64-bit guests, but only if you

>> have a 64-bit CPU in the host machine - you can't run a 64-bit guest on a

>> 32-bit host. Virtual PC only allows 32-bit guests. In my experience,

>> whether you use VMWare or Virtual PC, you'd want to have a 32-bit guest

>> running on top of a 64-bit host, that gives best performance all round.

>>

>> I use both Virtual PC and VMware Workstation, they are both good

>> products. VMWare has some useful extra features, but then you need to pay

>> for it.

>>

>> If the hardware device is a USB Smartcard Reader, you can work around

>> Virtual PC's lack of USB support by attaching your smartcard to the host

>> machine, then opening a Remote Desktop session to the guest. In the

>> Remote Desktop client (mstsc.exe), select the option to share the

>> smartcard in the Remote Desktop session. Your smartcard is then available

>> inside the guest when you RDP into it, even though you don't have a USB

>> port (clear as mud? :-)

>>

>> --

>> Andrew McLaren

>> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

>>

>

Guest Andre Da Costa [ActiveWin]

Guest Andre Da Costa [ActiveWin]

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

Check with the manufacturer about compatibility with either Vista x86 or

x64.

--

Andre

Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

My Vista Quickstart Guide:

http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

news:E0ACA31A-B1A4-4F7D-A868-FBCD36D8CC55@microsoft.com...

>I had forgotten that there are USB Verizon Broadband modems so I could use

>that. Still will my PCMCIA solution work?

>

> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

> news:OAoTv4BOIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Thanks for the great suggestions...is there a FAQ somewhere that

>> addresses these questions? I once saw a VPC FAQ, but it didn't seem to

>> address my questions...

>>

>> One thing I'm thinking about is that I have a PCMCIA EVDO Rev A. AC 595

>> Verizon Broadband Aircard. I can run this in the 64 bit host

>> environment, but I would also need it when running the Cicso VPN client

>> which runs only in 32 bit mode in what would be the guest. Would the

>> PCMCIA Aircard work with the 32 bit guest or is there a way to make a

>> pass through to the host as in the USB method you suggested? TIA

>>

>>

>> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message

>> news:161E10B1-4B9D-406E-A8DD-DA4B1C0C3745@microsoft.com...

>>> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

>>>> I'd like to go the VPC route but I'm a bit worried about hardware not

>>>> compatible with 64 bit mode and thanks to the VPC which does not

>>>> support all hardware (e.g. USB) unable to access it with 32 bit. Is

>>>> this a possibility? I travel a lot and might have a situation where I

>>>> want to install some hardware for something....

>>>

>>> If you need USB ports in the VM, then as Andre correctly notes, you

>>> would need to use VMWare.

>>>

>>> Virtual PC and VMWare can both run as 32-bit or 64-bit hosts

>>> (applications); ie, you can run 64-bit VMWare, or 64-bit Virtual PC, on

>>> 64-bit Windows. VMWare allows you to have 64-bit guests, but only if you

>>> have a 64-bit CPU in the host machine - you can't run a 64-bit guest on

>>> a 32-bit host. Virtual PC only allows 32-bit guests. In my experience,

>>> whether you use VMWare or Virtual PC, you'd want to have a 32-bit guest

>>> running on top of a 64-bit host, that gives best performance all round.

>>>

>>> I use both Virtual PC and VMware Workstation, they are both good

>>> products. VMWare has some useful extra features, but then you need to

>>> pay for it.

>>>

>>> If the hardware device is a USB Smartcard Reader, you can work around

>>> Virtual PC's lack of USB support by attaching your smartcard to the host

>>> machine, then opening a Remote Desktop session to the guest. In the

>>> Remote Desktop client (mstsc.exe), select the option to share the

>>> smartcard in the Remote Desktop session. Your smartcard is then

>>> available inside the guest when you RDP into it, even though you don't

>>> have a USB port (clear as mud? :-)

>>>

>>> --

>>> Andrew McLaren

>>> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

>>>

>>

>

Guest John Barnes

Guest John Barnes

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

There seems to be very little driver support for 64-bit USB devices, so

check it out carefully. In addition to what Charlie said, you can share

files between separately installed copies of those programs that need to be

installed on both system (most, but not all)

 

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

news:E0ACA31A-B1A4-4F7D-A868-FBCD36D8CC55@microsoft.com...

>I had forgotten that there are USB Verizon Broadband modems so I could use

>that. Still will my PCMCIA solution work?

>

> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

> news:OAoTv4BOIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Thanks for the great suggestions...is there a FAQ somewhere that

>> addresses these questions? I once saw a VPC FAQ, but it didn't seem to

>> address my questions...

>>

>> One thing I'm thinking about is that I have a PCMCIA EVDO Rev A. AC 595

>> Verizon Broadband Aircard. I can run this in the 64 bit host

>> environment, but I would also need it when running the Cicso VPN client

>> which runs only in 32 bit mode in what would be the guest. Would the

>> PCMCIA Aircard work with the 32 bit guest or is there a way to make a

>> pass through to the host as in the USB method you suggested? TIA

>>

>>

>> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message

>> news:161E10B1-4B9D-406E-A8DD-DA4B1C0C3745@microsoft.com...

>>> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

>>>> I'd like to go the VPC route but I'm a bit worried about hardware not

>>>> compatible with 64 bit mode and thanks to the VPC which does not

>>>> support all hardware (e.g. USB) unable to access it with 32 bit. Is

>>>> this a possibility? I travel a lot and might have a situation where I

>>>> want to install some hardware for something....

>>>

>>> If you need USB ports in the VM, then as Andre correctly notes, you

>>> would need to use VMWare.

>>>

>>> Virtual PC and VMWare can both run as 32-bit or 64-bit hosts

>>> (applications); ie, you can run 64-bit VMWare, or 64-bit Virtual PC, on

>>> 64-bit Windows. VMWare allows you to have 64-bit guests, but only if you

>>> have a 64-bit CPU in the host machine - you can't run a 64-bit guest on

>>> a 32-bit host. Virtual PC only allows 32-bit guests. In my experience,

>>> whether you use VMWare or Virtual PC, you'd want to have a 32-bit guest

>>> running on top of a 64-bit host, that gives best performance all round.

>>>

>>> I use both Virtual PC and VMware Workstation, they are both good

>>> products. VMWare has some useful extra features, but then you need to

>>> pay for it.

>>>

>>> If the hardware device is a USB Smartcard Reader, you can work around

>>> Virtual PC's lack of USB support by attaching your smartcard to the host

>>> machine, then opening a Remote Desktop session to the guest. In the

>>> Remote Desktop client (mstsc.exe), select the option to share the

>>> smartcard in the Remote Desktop session. Your smartcard is then

>>> available inside the guest when you RDP into it, even though you don't

>>> have a USB port (clear as mud? :-)

>>>

>>> --

>>> Andrew McLaren

>>> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

>>>

>>

>

Guest David F

Guest David F

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

Both the Verizon PCMCIA Broadband card which I own and the various USB

solutions are supported in both the 32 and 64 bit Vista. The question I

have is can I run the PCMCIA from a 32 bit guest while using the Cisco VPN

which will only run on Vista 32 and not Vista 64? TIA Is there some sort

of FAQ that covers these issues?

 

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

news:uq$aJGDOIHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> There seems to be very little driver support for 64-bit USB devices, so

> check it out carefully. In addition to what Charlie said, you can share

> files between separately installed copies of those programs that need to

> be installed on both system (most, but not all)

>

> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

> news:E0ACA31A-B1A4-4F7D-A868-FBCD36D8CC55@microsoft.com...

>>I had forgotten that there are USB Verizon Broadband modems so I could use

>>that. Still will my PCMCIA solution work?

>>

>> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

>> news:OAoTv4BOIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Thanks for the great suggestions...is there a FAQ somewhere that

>>> addresses these questions? I once saw a VPC FAQ, but it didn't seem to

>>> address my questions...

>>>

>>> One thing I'm thinking about is that I have a PCMCIA EVDO Rev A. AC 595

>>> Verizon Broadband Aircard. I can run this in the 64 bit host

>>> environment, but I would also need it when running the Cicso VPN client

>>> which runs only in 32 bit mode in what would be the guest. Would the

>>> PCMCIA Aircard work with the 32 bit guest or is there a way to make a

>>> pass through to the host as in the USB method you suggested? TIA

>>>

>>>

>>> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message

>>> news:161E10B1-4B9D-406E-A8DD-DA4B1C0C3745@microsoft.com...

>>>> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

>>>>> I'd like to go the VPC route but I'm a bit worried about hardware not

>>>>> compatible with 64 bit mode and thanks to the VPC which does not

>>>>> support all hardware (e.g. USB) unable to access it with 32 bit. Is

>>>>> this a possibility? I travel a lot and might have a situation where I

>>>>> want to install some hardware for something....

>>>>

>>>> If you need USB ports in the VM, then as Andre correctly notes, you

>>>> would need to use VMWare.

>>>>

>>>> Virtual PC and VMWare can both run as 32-bit or 64-bit hosts

>>>> (applications); ie, you can run 64-bit VMWare, or 64-bit Virtual PC, on

>>>> 64-bit Windows. VMWare allows you to have 64-bit guests, but only if

>>>> you have a 64-bit CPU in the host machine - you can't run a 64-bit

>>>> guest on a 32-bit host. Virtual PC only allows 32-bit guests. In my

>>>> experience, whether you use VMWare or Virtual PC, you'd want to have a

>>>> 32-bit guest running on top of a 64-bit host, that gives best

>>>> performance all round.

>>>>

>>>> I use both Virtual PC and VMware Workstation, they are both good

>>>> products. VMWare has some useful extra features, but then you need to

>>>> pay for it.

>>>>

>>>> If the hardware device is a USB Smartcard Reader, you can work around

>>>> Virtual PC's lack of USB support by attaching your smartcard to the

>>>> host machine, then opening a Remote Desktop session to the guest. In

>>>> the Remote Desktop client (mstsc.exe), select the option to share the

>>>> smartcard in the Remote Desktop session. Your smartcard is then

>>>> available inside the guest when you RDP into it, even though you don't

>>>> have a USB port (clear as mud? :-)

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Andrew McLaren

>>>> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest Stefan Pendl

Guest Stefan Pendl

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:49:30 -0500, "David F"

<dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote:

>Both the Verizon PCMCIA Broadband card which I own and the various USB

>solutions are supported in both the 32 and 64 bit Vista. The question I

>have is can I run the PCMCIA from a 32 bit guest while using the Cisco VPN

>which will only run on Vista 32 and not Vista 64? TIA Is there some sort

>of FAQ that covers these issues?

>

 

Install VPC and check if hardware virtualization is available, that

seems to be the only way to know.

I just installed VPC today and the guest host was running after an

hour.

 

---

Stefan Pendl

Guest Andrew McLaren

Guest Andrew McLaren

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

> Thanks for the great suggestions...is there a FAQ somewhere that addresses

> these questions? I once saw a VPC FAQ, but it didn't seem to address my

> questions...

 

There probably is, but I don't know off top of my head. Ben Armstrong's blog

has a wealth of useful information about Virtual PC:

 

http://blogs.msdn.com/Virtual_PC_Guy/

 

(Ben is one of the lead program managers for virtualisation at Microsoft).

> One thing I'm thinking about is that I have a PCMCIA EVDO Rev A. AC 595

> Verizon Broadband Aircard. I can run this in the 64 bit host environment,

> but I would also need it when running the Cicso VPN client which runs only

> in 32 bit mode in what would be the guest. Would the PCMCIA Aircard work

> with the 32 bit guest or is there a way to make a pass through to the host

> as in the USB method you suggested? TIA

 

That would be okay. The underlying physical network connection is provided

by the host OS. Inside the guest, you'll see a virtualised DEC 21140 Network

Card. This communicates using the host's network stack; so, you don't need

to install drivers for the the host card inside the guest.

 

My main reservation at this point is, you're setting yourself up for a bit

of complexity but not much explicit benfit. If you really need to run 32-bit

apps and drivers, stick with 32-bit Vista. What is your motivation for going

to 64-bit? FWIW, I run 64-bit Vista on my main desktop (and 32-bit on my

laptop); but then, I'm happy to live on the bleeding edge :-) Unless you

are running truly demanding applications which are themselves 64-bit apps,

there isn't much advantage to 64-bit Windows - especially if you have tools

which require 32-bit Windows.

 

--

Andrew McLaren

amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

David - yes, that will work. Let me strongly suggest that you have at least

three partitions on the machine. One for Vista 32, one for Vista 64, and one

for data. Keep all your data files on the data drive. You can even repoint

your Documents, Music and Pictures folders to that drive.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

news:5EDFD39D-FA4C-4886-92CD-5B665D0A39AE@microsoft.com...

> Thanks for the quick, detailed reply. I only want to be able to use

> application documents (e.g. Word 2007 *.doc) on both 32 and 64. I would

> install separate applications in both versions. That would work, correct?

>

> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%231Sssl4NIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Because they are the same version, both Vista 32 and 64 bit are

>> interchangeable, it doesn't matter which one you install first, just make

>> sure they are installed on separate drives or partitions. As for

>> transferring applications between the two, its possiblem but not reliable

>> especially since both are still architectually different. You will

>> probably receive that registry setting errors or the application is not

>> installed correctly.

>>

>> But if you do install say Microsoft Word on Vista x64, you could try

>> running it from Vista x86 but browsing to the Program files (x86)

>> /Microsoft Office folder on the Vista x64 partition and launch the

>> winword executable. Again, not recommended.

>> --

>> Andre

>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

>> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

>> news:CEC2C3EA-1705-4EB1-BE68-D29450DDA7BE@microsoft.com...

>>>I would like to dual boot Vista 64 with Vista 32 which I will use as a

>>>backup for compatibility problems with Vista 64 such as running Cisco's

>>>VPN.

>>>

>>> I've read:

>>> http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

>>>

>>> Which discusses making a Vista 32 which is installed first dual boot

>>> with XP installed second. I assume a similar procedure would be

>>> followed for a dual boot Vista 32 and 64 install. Am I correct?

>>>

>>> Also, are the files (such as MS Word 2007) transferable between Vista 32

>>> and Vista 64?

>>> TIA

>>

>>

>

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

VPC isn't going to work for him - he needs USB support. That puts him firmly

in the VMWare camp.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Stefan Pendl" <stefan.pendl@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:db1hl3d8h2tekj7k0cjqqcse0jc97e26a8@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:49:30 -0500, "David F"

> <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote:

>

>>Both the Verizon PCMCIA Broadband card which I own and the various USB

>>solutions are supported in both the 32 and 64 bit Vista. The question I

>>have is can I run the PCMCIA from a 32 bit guest while using the Cisco VPN

>>which will only run on Vista 32 and not Vista 64? TIA Is there some sort

>>of FAQ that covers these issues?

>>

>

> Install VPC and check if hardware virtualization is available, that

> seems to be the only way to know.

> I just installed VPC today and the guest host was running after an

> hour.

>

> ---

> Stefan Pendl

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP

Guest Charlie Russel - MVP

Posted
Posted

Re: Dual Boot Vista 64 and 32

 

Virtual PC isn't going to be a good solution for you, I don't believe. I

think you're going to need VMWare. And you'll want VMWare Workstation v6 to

get full USB2 support.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

news:OAoTv4BOIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Thanks for the great suggestions...is there a FAQ somewhere that addresses

> these questions? I once saw a VPC FAQ, but it didn't seem to address my

> questions...

>

> One thing I'm thinking about is that I have a PCMCIA EVDO Rev A. AC 595

> Verizon Broadband Aircard. I can run this in the 64 bit host environment,

> but I would also need it when running the Cicso VPN client which runs only

> in 32 bit mode in what would be the guest. Would the PCMCIA Aircard work

> with the 32 bit guest or is there a way to make a pass through to the host

> as in the USB method you suggested? TIA

>

>

> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message

> news:161E10B1-4B9D-406E-A8DD-DA4B1C0C3745@microsoft.com...

>> "David F" <dfumento@ATTHISADDRESSgmailDOT.com> wrote...

>>> I'd like to go the VPC route but I'm a bit worried about hardware not

>>> compatible with 64 bit mode and thanks to the VPC which does not support

>>> all hardware (e.g. USB) unable to access it with 32 bit. Is this a

>>> possibility? I travel a lot and might have a situation where I want to

>>> install some hardware for something....

>>

>> If you need USB ports in the VM, then as Andre correctly notes, you would

>> need to use VMWare.

>>

>> Virtual PC and VMWare can both run as 32-bit or 64-bit hosts

>> (applications); ie, you can run 64-bit VMWare, or 64-bit Virtual PC, on

>> 64-bit Windows. VMWare allows you to have 64-bit guests, but only if you

>> have a 64-bit CPU in the host machine - you can't run a 64-bit guest on a

>> 32-bit host. Virtual PC only allows 32-bit guests. In my experience,

>> whether you use VMWare or Virtual PC, you'd want to have a 32-bit guest

>> running on top of a 64-bit host, that gives best performance all round.

>>

>> I use both Virtual PC and VMware Workstation, they are both good

>> products. VMWare has some useful extra features, but then you need to pay

>> for it.

>>

>> If the hardware device is a USB Smartcard Reader, you can work around

>> Virtual PC's lack of USB support by attaching your smartcard to the host

>> machine, then opening a Remote Desktop session to the guest. In the

>> Remote Desktop client (mstsc.exe), select the option to share the

>> smartcard in the Remote Desktop session. Your smartcard is then available

>> inside the guest when you RDP into it, even though you don't have a USB

>> port (clear as mud? :-)

>>

>> --

>> Andrew McLaren

>> amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

>>

>

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