Can not shut down or restart computer.

[Guest Ward]

Hi. I have a windows 2K Pro machine with all of the latest patches

installed. I can not restart or shut down the machine. If I choose

to restart or shut down, windows goes thru it's normal routine and

closes everthing and then shuts itself down, however the computer will

not turn "off" or "reboot" after this step. All that is left is

either a black screen or a black screen with a blinking cursor in the

upper left hand corner. In order to shut down I have to press and

hold the power button.

 

I checked the even log and couldn't find anything telling. Perhaps

it's a bios setting?

 

Anyway, pressing the power button to shut down is not the solution I'm

looking for.

 

Thank you.

[Guest Steve Parry [MVP]]

Re: Can not shut down or restart computer.

 

In news:51ac7a7c-2fe2-4a1c-abad-33c39a85c441@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com,

Ward <wardhawg@yahoo.com> wibbled

> Hi. I have a windows 2K Pro machine with all of the latest patches

> installed. I can not restart or shut down the machine. If I choose

> to restart or shut down, windows goes thru it's normal routine and

> closes everthing and then shuts itself down, however the computer will

> not turn "off" or "reboot" after this step. All that is left is

> either a black screen or a black screen with a blinking cursor in the

> upper left hand corner. In order to shut down I have to press and

> hold the power button.

>

> I checked the even log and couldn't find anything telling. Perhaps

> it's a bios setting?

>

> Anyway, pressing the power button to shut down is not the solution I'm

> looking for.

>

> Thank you.

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315409

 

 

 

--

Steve Parry MCP MVP

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

[Guest Ward]

Re: Can not shut down or restart computer.

 

On Dec 18, 7:55 am, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

<k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> Innews:51ac7a7c-2fe2-4a1c-abad-33c39a85c441@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com,

> Ward <wardh...@yahoo.com> wibbled

>

>

>

> > Hi. I have a windows 2K Pro machine with all of the latest patches

> > installed. I can not restart or shut down the machine. If I choose

> > to restart or shut down, windows goes thru it's normal routine and

> > closes everthing and then shuts itself down, however the computer will

> > not turn "off" or "reboot" after this step. All that is left is

> > either a black screen or a black screen with a blinking cursor in the

> > upper left hand corner. In order to shut down I have to press and

> > hold the power button.

>

> > I checked the even log and couldn't find anything telling. Perhaps

> > it's a bios setting?

>

> > Anyway, pressing the power button to shut down is not the solution I'm

> > looking for.

>

> > Thank you.

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315409

>

> --

> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk

 

Thanks for the KB article Steve, however I'm still troubleshooting

this problem.

 

Perhaps a little bit more background surrounding the problem.

 

Our old computer had a mobo problem. So I purchased a new Lenovo

system. It shipped with Vista, which naturally doesn't play nice with

a few of our programs.

 

So I took the boot drive out of the old system and stuck it into the

new Lenovo. I've loaded all of the appropriate drivers (chipset,

video, keyboard, mouse, everything) to get the old drive working in

the new box. However I still have the shutdown issue with it.

 

The computer goes thru all of the steps leading up to a normal

shutdown, i.e. closes applications, terminates network connections,

all of that. It just will not "punch" the computer to restart (you

know when you first boot many computers the fans are a whirling

really, really fast).

 

From the KB about shutdown issues, it suggested booting into safe mode

then shutting down the machine. Well that STILL doesn't work. It

didn't really say what to try next if that fails.

 

From that expanded explanation, would you say that I have a driver

conflict or program conflict left over from the old boot disk that is

now running the show?

 

If I can't find a solution to this, the second thing I was looking for

is a "force restart" utility (since this machine doesn't have a reset

button) that I could schedule to restart the machine without having to

hold the power button for 5 seconds.

 

Thanks again,

 

Ward

[Guest Steve Parry [MVP]]

Re: Can not shut down or restart computer.

 

In news:be80e4ca-63ec-4d2f-9ca5-87a68f73f115@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com,

Ward <wardhawg@yahoo.com> wibbled

> On Dec 18, 7:55 am, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

> <k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Innews:51ac7a7c-2fe2-4a1c-abad-33c39a85c441@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com,

>> Ward <wardh...@yahoo.com> wibbled

>>

>>

>>

>>> Hi. I have a windows 2K Pro machine with all of the latest patches

>>> installed. I can not restart or shut down the machine. If I choose

>>> to restart or shut down, windows goes thru it's normal routine and

>>> closes everthing and then shuts itself down, however the computer

>>> will not turn "off" or "reboot" after this step. All that is left

>>> is either a black screen or a black screen with a blinking cursor

>>> in the upper left hand corner. In order to shut down I have to

>>> press and hold the power button.

>>

>>> I checked the even log and couldn't find anything telling. Perhaps

>>> it's a bios setting?

>>

>>> Anyway, pressing the power button to shut down is not the solution

>>> I'm looking for.

>>

>>> Thank you.

>>

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315409

>>

>> --

>> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk

>

> Thanks for the KB article Steve, however I'm still troubleshooting

> this problem.

>

> Perhaps a little bit more background surrounding the problem.

>

> Our old computer had a mobo problem. So I purchased a new Lenovo

> system. It shipped with Vista, which naturally doesn't play nice with

> a few of our programs.

>

> So I took the boot drive out of the old system and stuck it into the

> new Lenovo. I've loaded all of the appropriate drivers (chipset,

> video, keyboard, mouse, everything) to get the old drive working in

> the new box. However I still have the shutdown issue with it.

>

> The computer goes thru all of the steps leading up to a normal

> shutdown, i.e. closes applications, terminates network connections,

> all of that. It just will not "punch" the computer to restart (you

> know when you first boot many computers the fans are a whirling

> really, really fast).

>

> From the KB about shutdown issues, it suggested booting into safe mode

> then shutting down the machine. Well that STILL doesn't work. It

> didn't really say what to try next if that fails.

>

> From that expanded explanation, would you say that I have a driver

> conflict or program conflict left over from the old boot disk that is

> now running the show?

>

> If I can't find a solution to this, the second thing I was looking for

> is a "force restart" utility (since this machine doesn't have a reset

> button) that I could schedule to restart the machine without having to

> hold the power button for 5 seconds.

>

> Thanks again,

>

> Ward

 

I'd look at VMWare Server or MS Virtual Server to run your apps in a

virtualised session on your Vista machine. This way it's kept totally

seperate from your hardware and if you upgrade in the future you can move

the VM to the new hardware easily

 

--

Steve Parry MCP MVP

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

[Guest Ward]

Re: Can not shut down or restart computer.

 

On Dec 27, 6:50 am, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

<k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> Innews:be80e4ca-63ec-4d2f-9ca5-87a68f73f115@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com,

> Ward <wardh...@yahoo.com> wibbled

>

>

>

> > On Dec 18, 7:55 am, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

> > <k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> >> Innews:51ac7a7c-2fe2-4a1c-abad-33c39a85c441@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com,

> >> Ward <wardh...@yahoo.com> wibbled

>

> >>> Hi. I have a windows 2K Pro machine with all of the latest patches

> >>> installed. I can not restart or shut down the machine. If I choose

> >>> to restart or shut down, windows goes thru it's normal routine and

> >>> closes everthing and then shuts itself down, however the computer

> >>> will not turn "off" or "reboot" after this step. All that is left

> >>> is either a black screen or a black screen with a blinking cursor

> >>> in the upper left hand corner. In order to shut down I have to

> >>> press and hold the power button.

>

> >>> I checked the even log and couldn't find anything telling. Perhaps

> >>> it's a bios setting?

>

> >>> Anyway, pressing the power button to shut down is not the solution

> >>> I'm looking for.

>

> >>> Thank you.

>

> >>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315409

>

> >> --

> >> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk

>

> > Thanks for the KB article Steve, however I'm still troubleshooting

> > this problem.

>

> > Perhaps a little bit more background surrounding the problem.

>

> > Our old computer had a mobo problem. So I purchased a new Lenovo

> > system. It shipped with Vista, which naturally doesn't play nice with

> > a few of our programs.

>

> > So I took the boot drive out of the old system and stuck it into the

> > new Lenovo. I've loaded all of the appropriate drivers (chipset,

> > video, keyboard, mouse, everything) to get the old drive working in

> > the new box. However I still have the shutdown issue with it.

>

> > The computer goes thru all of the steps leading up to a normal

> > shutdown, i.e. closes applications, terminates network connections,

> > all of that. It just will not "punch" the computer to restart (you

> > know when you first boot many computers the fans are a whirling

> > really, really fast).

>

> > From the KB about shutdown issues, it suggested booting into safe mode

> > then shutting down the machine. Well that STILL doesn't work. It

> > didn't really say what to try next if that fails.

>

> > From that expanded explanation, would you say that I have a driver

> > conflict or program conflict left over from the old boot disk that is

> > now running the show?

>

> > If I can't find a solution to this, the second thing I was looking for

> > is a "force restart" utility (since this machine doesn't have a reset

> > button) that I could schedule to restart the machine without having to

> > hold the power button for 5 seconds.

>

> > Thanks again,

>

> > Ward

>

> I'd look at VMWare Server or MS Virtual Server to run your apps in a

> virtualised session on your Vista machine. This way it's kept totally

> seperate from your hardware and if you upgrade in the future you can move

> the VM to the new hardware easily

>

> --

> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk

 

Oh I like that a whole lot.

 

This question may not be in your "power alley", but I'll ask anyway...

 

Is there a super easy way to transfer my existing system (my windows

2000 installation that has the programs that I need to run (quickbooks

and a fax system)) into VMWare or the Mircosoft brand?

 

I realize this may not be your specialty. I thing I'll also find

another group for the question.

 

Thanks again!

 

Ward

[Guest Steve Parry [MVP]]

Re: Can not shut down or restart computer.

 

In news:bca196b8-c81d-4799-9439-25992b0072cc@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com,

Ward <wardhawg@yahoo.com> wibbled

> On Dec 27, 6:50 am, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

> <k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Innews:be80e4ca-63ec-4d2f-9ca5-87a68f73f115@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com,

>> Ward <wardh...@yahoo.com> wibbled

>>

>>

>>

>>> On Dec 18, 7:55 am, "Steve Parry [MVP]"

>>> <k100rs_1...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Innews:51ac7a7c-2fe2-4a1c-abad-33c39a85c441@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com,

>>>> Ward <wardh...@yahoo.com> wibbled

>>

>>>>> Hi. I have a windows 2K Pro machine with all of the latest

>>>>> patches installed. I can not restart or shut down the machine.

>>>>> If I choose to restart or shut down, windows goes thru it's

>>>>> normal routine and closes everthing and then shuts itself down,

>>>>> however the computer will not turn "off" or "reboot" after this

>>>>> step. All that is left is either a black screen or a black

>>>>> screen with a blinking cursor in the upper left hand corner. In

>>>>> order to shut down I have to press and hold the power button.

>>

>>>>> I checked the even log and couldn't find anything telling.

>>>>> Perhaps it's a bios setting?

>>

>>>>> Anyway, pressing the power button to shut down is not the solution

>>>>> I'm looking for.

>>

>>>>> Thank you.

>>

>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315409

>>

>>>> --

>>>> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk

>>

>>> Thanks for the KB article Steve, however I'm still troubleshooting

>>> this problem.

>>

>>> Perhaps a little bit more background surrounding the problem.

>>

>>> Our old computer had a mobo problem. So I purchased a new Lenovo

>>> system. It shipped with Vista, which naturally doesn't play nice

>>> with a few of our programs.

>>

>>> So I took the boot drive out of the old system and stuck it into the

>>> new Lenovo. I've loaded all of the appropriate drivers (chipset,

>>> video, keyboard, mouse, everything) to get the old drive working in

>>> the new box. However I still have the shutdown issue with it.

>>

>>> The computer goes thru all of the steps leading up to a normal

>>> shutdown, i.e. closes applications, terminates network connections,

>>> all of that. It just will not "punch" the computer to restart (you

>>> know when you first boot many computers the fans are a whirling

>>> really, really fast).

>>

>>> From the KB about shutdown issues, it suggested booting into safe

>>> mode then shutting down the machine. Well that STILL doesn't work.

>>> It didn't really say what to try next if that fails.

>>

>>> From that expanded explanation, would you say that I have a driver

>>> conflict or program conflict left over from the old boot disk that

>>> is now running the show?

>>

>>> If I can't find a solution to this, the second thing I was looking

>>> for is a "force restart" utility (since this machine doesn't have a

>>> reset button) that I could schedule to restart the machine without

>>> having to hold the power button for 5 seconds.

>>

>>> Thanks again,

>>

>>> Ward

>>

>> I'd look at VMWare Server or MS Virtual Server to run your apps in a

>> virtualised session on your Vista machine. This way it's kept totally

>> seperate from your hardware and if you upgrade in the future you can

>> move the VM to the new hardware easily

>>

>> --

>> Steve Parry MCP MVPwww.gwynfryn.co.uk

>

> Oh I like that a whole lot.

>

> This question may not be in your "power alley", but I'll ask anyway...

>

> Is there a super easy way to transfer my existing system (my windows

> 2000 installation that has the programs that I need to run (quickbooks

> and a fax system)) into VMWare or the Mircosoft brand?

>

> I realize this may not be your specialty. I thing I'll also find

> another group for the question.

>

> Thanks again!

>

> Ward

 

In theory I guess this is possible, in the same way as changing a

motherboard etc as the VM is a "new" PC.

 

Although you may find life easier just to start from fresh :)

 

Most of our corporate domain controllers are on VM's with VMWare. To us the

big afvantage is they can be restored instantly if the hardware they live on

fails, and as hardware is upgraded the vm can exist on new hardware in

minutes.

 

--

Steve Parry MCP MVP

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk