Guest Greg Lamonte Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > And, apparently you don't 'know' how to spell correctly! > > > shadow wrote: >> 32-bit runs under 64-bit windows that a lie 32-bit software is Incomplete >> with windows 64-bit and windows 64 is the future of windows kid for >> being a MVP you don't no your windows that well Soore he spills currectly. I knew pracisly whet he sez. If the dude can't spoil it out for yourself, meybe it is your nowledge who can't spill corrictly?
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Awesume, Dood! "Greg Lamonte" <lagre345@aul.com> wrote in message news:476984d0$0$8800$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> And, apparently you don't 'know' how to spell correctly! >> >> >> shadow wrote: >>> 32-bit runs under 64-bit windows that a lie 32-bit software is >>> Incomplete with windows 64-bit and windows 64 is the future of windows >>> kid for being a MVP you don't no your windows that well > > Soore he spills currectly. I knew pracisly whet he sez. If the dude can't > spoil it out for yourself, meybe it is your nowledge who can't spill > corrictly? >
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows I haven't sold computers since 1991. "Greg Lamonte" <lagre345@aul.com> wrote in message news:47698395$0$8853$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message > >>I can see you with a Commodore 64. I used to sell them. > > ...And now you are peddling Windows. What an upgrade, keep this up and > you'll become real respected one day :( >
Guest Tom Ferguson Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different questions. Tom Ferguson "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com... > No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag set > in order to create a 64-bit system. > > "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com... >> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable >> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a 64-bit >> Processor is it possible >> >> "Tom Ferguson" wrote: >> >>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. >>> You >>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same generation >>> of >>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective >>> choice >>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the >>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs) >>> >>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed to >>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also >>> interesting >>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 bits >>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code >>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y? >>> (That >>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack, >>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given >>> stack, >>> register, or memory location?) >>> >>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues! >>> >>> Tom Ferguson >>> >>> >>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com... >>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not >>> > 32-bit i >>> > am >>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit >>> > and >>> > start >>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new >>> > software >>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going >>> > to do >>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit >>> > windows >>> > we >>> > can not wait >>> >>> >
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows No surprise to me. I found the post hard to read. "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message news:OlcKHXoQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different > questions. > > Tom Ferguson > > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message > news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com... >> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag >> set in order to create a 64-bit system. >> >> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com... >>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable >>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a 64-bit >>> Processor is it possible >>> >>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote: >>> >>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. >>>> You >>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same generation >>>> of >>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective >>>> choice >>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the >>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs) >>>> >>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed >>>> to >>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also >>>> interesting >>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 >>>> bits >>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code >>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y? >>>> (That >>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack, >>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given >>>> stack, >>>> register, or memory location?) >>>> >>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues! >>>> >>>> Tom Ferguson >>>> >>>> >>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com... >>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not >>>> > 32-bit i >>>> > am >>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit >>>> > and >>>> > start >>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new >>>> > software >>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going >>>> > to do >>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit >>>> > windows >>>> > we >>>> > can not wait >>>> >>>> >> >
Guest Tom Ferguson Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Ditto. And possibly something different still was being asked. We await developments. <g> Tom Ferguson "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message news:0AE18641-D361-4DBD-9A71-D59248E42987@microsoft.com... > No surprise to me. I found the post hard to read. > > "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:OlcKHXoQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different >> questions. >> >> Tom Ferguson >> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message >> news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com... >>> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag >>> set in order to create a 64-bit system. >>> >>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com... >>>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable >>>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a >>>> 64-bit >>>> Processor is it possible >>>> >>>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. >>>>> You >>>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same >>>>> generation of >>>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective >>>>> choice >>>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the >>>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs) >>>>> >>>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed >>>>> to >>>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also >>>>> interesting >>>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 >>>>> bits >>>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code >>>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y? >>>>> (That >>>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack, >>>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given >>>>> stack, >>>>> register, or memory location?) >>>>> >>>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues! >>>>> >>>>> Tom Ferguson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com... >>>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not >>>>> > 32-bit i >>>>> > am >>>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit >>>>> > and >>>>> > start >>>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new >>>>> > software >>>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going >>>>> > to do >>>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit >>>>> > windows >>>>> > we >>>>> > can not wait >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
Guest shadow Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows so it is possible then this so cool MS better hard at work trying to do this with windows 7 then and stop making it for one type of processor, so MVP what do you no about windows 7 "Tom Ferguson" wrote: > To answer such a question fully, you might want to have a look at the topic > of emulation-writing code that lets the code written for one set of hardware > run on another. > > The short answer is that it is possible but not simple. In effect, you could > set up a system that would install on either a 32 or 64 bit system. It would > be possible to distribute a 64 bit system only and install an emulator > package so the 32 bit processor would run the emulator which the OS would > use as if, together they were a physical 64 bit processor. Performance would > suffer somewhat. In the interests of optimizing the system for best > performance, MS (and various distributions of Linux) have chosen to > distribute specific systems for each on separate media or by separate > download packages. > > You might be interested in looking into the MS WOW system found in various > MS OSs. > > Tom Ferguson > > > "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com... > > Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable > > 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a 64-bit > > Processor is it possible > > > > "Tom Ferguson" wrote: > > > >> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. You > >> might want to have a look at the difference between the same generation > >> of > >> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective > >> choice > >> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the > >> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs) > >> > >> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed to > >> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also > >> interesting > >> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 bits > >> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code > >> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y? > >> (That > >> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack, > >> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given > >> stack, > >> register, or memory location?) > >> > >> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues! > >> > >> Tom Ferguson > >> > >> > >> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com... > >> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not > >> > 32-bit i > >> > am > >> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit and > >> > start > >> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new > >> > software > >> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going to > >> > do > >> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit > >> > windows > >> > we > >> > can not wait > >> > >> > >
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows It still in the planning stages. No beta bits for a while yet. MS is focused on getting Windows Server 2008 out the door in February. "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E415246E-DD7F-4170-BF69-9411FBDFC3D2@microsoft.com... > so it is possible then this so cool MS better hard at work trying to do > this > with windows 7 then and stop making it for one type of processor, so MVP > what > do you no about windows 7 > > "Tom Ferguson" wrote: > >> To answer such a question fully, you might want to have a look at the >> topic >> of emulation-writing code that lets the code written for one set of >> hardware >> run on another. >> >> The short answer is that it is possible but not simple. In effect, you >> could >> set up a system that would install on either a 32 or 64 bit system. It >> would >> be possible to distribute a 64 bit system only and install an emulator >> package so the 32 bit processor would run the emulator which the OS would >> use as if, together they were a physical 64 bit processor. Performance >> would >> suffer somewhat. In the interests of optimizing the system for best >> performance, MS (and various distributions of Linux) have chosen to >> distribute specific systems for each on separate media or by separate >> download packages. >> >> You might be interested in looking into the MS WOW system found in >> various >> MS OSs. >> >> Tom Ferguson >> >> >> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com... >> > Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable >> > 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a >> > 64-bit >> > Processor is it possible >> > >> > "Tom Ferguson" wrote: >> > >> >> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. >> >> You >> >> might want to have a look at the difference between the same >> >> generation >> >> of >> >> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective >> >> choice >> >> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the >> >> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs) >> >> >> >> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed >> >> to >> >> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also >> >> interesting >> >> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 >> >> bits >> >> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code >> >> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y? >> >> (That >> >> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack, >> >> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given >> >> stack, >> >> register, or memory location?) >> >> >> >> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues! >> >> >> >> Tom Ferguson >> >> >> >> >> >> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com... >> >> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not >> >> > 32-bit i >> >> > am >> >> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit >> >> > and >> >> > start >> >> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new >> >> > software >> >> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going >> >> > to >> >> > do >> >> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit >> >> > windows >> >> > we >> >> > can not wait >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest roman modic Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Hello! "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message news:185E0ABA-7E12-48FF-A897-0A7E4F894788@microsoft.com... > Nonsense. There isn't even a 64-bit version of Office and it runs just fine on my Vista Ultimate x64 box. :) http://blogs.msdn.com/descapa/archive/2007/12/04/send-to-onenote-2007-why-it-isn-t-there-in-64-bit-x64.aspx Send to OneNote 2007 print driver is currently not available on any of the 64-bit OSes http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927383/en-us Cheers, Roman
Guest Jane C Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows That's strange - the Send to OneNote 2007 works just great here on Ultimate x64. I've used it to send webpages to OneNote. -- Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-) Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-) MVP Windows Shell/User "roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message news:egiZBtpQIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Hello! > > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message > news:185E0ABA-7E12-48FF-A897-0A7E4F894788@microsoft.com... >> Nonsense. There isn't even a 64-bit version of Office and it runs just >> fine on my Vista Ultimate x64 box. > > :) > > http://blogs.msdn.com/descapa/archive/2007/12/04/send-to-onenote-2007-why-it-isn-t-there-in-64-bit-x64.aspx > > Send to OneNote 2007 print driver is currently not available on any of the > 64-bit OSes > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927383/en-us > > > Cheers, Roman > >
Guest shadow Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows so MVP is there news about developer making windows 64-bit backwared with 32-bit windows on windows 7 or is it is it going to be like windows vista we have to wait for a service pack to see "Tom Ferguson" wrote: > Ditto. And possibly something different still was being asked. We await > developments. <g> > > Tom Ferguson > > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message > news:0AE18641-D361-4DBD-9A71-D59248E42987@microsoft.com... > > No surprise to me. I found the post hard to read. > > > > "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:OlcKHXoQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >> Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different > >> questions. > >> > >> Tom Ferguson > >> > >> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message > >> news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com... > >>> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag > >>> set in order to create a 64-bit system. > >>> > >>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com... > >>>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable > >>>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a > >>>> 64-bit > >>>> Processor is it possible > >>>> > >>>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. > >>>>> You > >>>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same > >>>>> generation of > >>>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective > >>>>> choice > >>>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the > >>>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs) > >>>>> > >>>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed > >>>>> to > >>>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also > >>>>> interesting > >>>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 > >>>>> bits > >>>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code > >>>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y? > >>>>> (That > >>>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack, > >>>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given > >>>>> stack, > >>>>> register, or memory location?) > >>>>> > >>>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues! > >>>>> > >>>>> Tom Ferguson > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com... > >>>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not > >>>>> > 32-bit i > >>>>> > am > >>>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit > >>>>> > and > >>>>> > start > >>>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new > >>>>> > software > >>>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going > >>>>> > to do > >>>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit > >>>>> > windows > >>>>> > we > >>>>> > can not wait > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > > > >
Guest Dennis Pack Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Colin: I was going to jump in earlier but decided to wait. I couldn't afford a Commodore 64, but I still have a Vic20 in the basement. Have a great day. -- Dennis Pack XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64 Office Professional Plus 2007 "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message news:0AE18641-D361-4DBD-9A71-D59248E42987@microsoft.com... > No surprise to me. I found the post hard to read. > > "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:OlcKHXoQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different >> questions. >> >> Tom Ferguson >> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message >> news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com... >>> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag >>> set in order to create a 64-bit system. >>> >>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com... >>>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can Enable >>>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a >>>> 64-bit >>>> Processor is it possible >>>> >>>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. >>>>> You >>>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same >>>>> generation of >>>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective >>>>> choice >>>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the >>>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs) >>>>> >>>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed >>>>> to >>>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also >>>>> interesting >>>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 >>>>> bits >>>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code >>>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y? >>>>> (That >>>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack, >>>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given >>>>> stack, >>>>> register, or memory location?) >>>>> >>>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues! >>>>> >>>>> Tom Ferguson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com... >>>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not >>>>> > 32-bit i >>>>> > am >>>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit >>>>> > and >>>>> > start >>>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new >>>>> > software >>>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft going >>>>> > to do >>>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit >>>>> > windows >>>>> > we >>>>> > can not wait >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Hi! "roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message news:egiZBtpQIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Hello! > > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message > news:185E0ABA-7E12-48FF-A897-0A7E4F894788@microsoft.com... >> Nonsense. There isn't even a 64-bit version of Office and it runs just >> fine on my Vista Ultimate x64 box. > > :) > > http://blogs.msdn.com/descapa/archive/2007/12/04/send-to-onenote-2007-why-it-isn-t-there-in-64-bit-x64.aspx > > Send to OneNote 2007 print driver is currently not available on any of the > 64-bit OSes > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927383/en-us > > > Cheers, Roman > >
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows I know, its right next to the Timex-Sinclair. ;) "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message news:7B1104B3-1522-4F2A-911B-2A535E2F40A0@microsoft.com... > Colin: > I was going to jump in earlier but decided to wait. I couldn't afford a > Commodore 64, but I still have a Vic20 in the basement. Have a great day. > > -- > Dennis Pack > XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64 > Office Professional Plus 2007 > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message > news:0AE18641-D361-4DBD-9A71-D59248E42987@microsoft.com... >> No surprise to me. I found the post hard to read. >> >> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OlcKHXoQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different >>> questions. >>> >>> Tom Ferguson >>> >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message >>> news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com... >>>> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag >>>> set in order to create a 64-bit system. >>>> >>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com... >>>>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can >>>>> Enable >>>>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a >>>>> 64-bit >>>>> Processor is it possible >>>>> >>>>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. >>>>>> You >>>>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same >>>>>> generation of >>>>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective >>>>>> choice >>>>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the >>>>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs) >>>>>> >>>>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed >>>>>> to >>>>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also >>>>>> interesting >>>>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 >>>>>> bits >>>>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code >>>>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y? >>>>>> (That >>>>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack, >>>>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given >>>>>> stack, >>>>>> register, or memory location?) >>>>>> >>>>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues! >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Ferguson >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com... >>>>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not >>>>>> > 32-bit i >>>>>> > am >>>>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit >>>>>> > and >>>>>> > start >>>>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new >>>>>> > software >>>>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft >>>>>> > going to do >>>>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit >>>>>> > windows >>>>>> > we >>>>>> > can not wait >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Guest Carlos Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows I'm kinda feeling nostalgic down here (sob!). Are we getting THAT old? :) Carlos "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > I know, its right next to the Timex-Sinclair. ;) > > "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message > news:7B1104B3-1522-4F2A-911B-2A535E2F40A0@microsoft.com... > > Colin: > > I was going to jump in earlier but decided to wait. I couldn't afford a > > Commodore 64, but I still have a Vic20 in the basement. Have a great day. > > > > -- > > Dennis Pack > > XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64 > > Office Professional Plus 2007 > > "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message > > news:0AE18641-D361-4DBD-9A71-D59248E42987@microsoft.com... > >> No surprise to me. I found the post hard to read. > >> > >> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:OlcKHXoQIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > >>> Interesting. We both read the same words and, it seems, saw different > >>> questions. > >>> > >>> Tom Ferguson > >>> > >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message > >>> news:8FB600FA-5A76-4F00-9AE8-82B636601B0F@microsoft.com... > >>>> No. The OS source code has to be compiled with the 64-bit target flag > >>>> set in order to create a 64-bit system. > >>>> > >>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>>> news:51B8E078-49EE-40B0-92E2-8F0AEEDB9298@microsoft.com... > >>>>> Is there away MS can find to change the code because windows can > >>>>> Enable > >>>>> 64-bit to got a performance boost on a 32-bit OS if people have a > >>>>> 64-bit > >>>>> Processor is it possible > >>>>> > >>>>> "Tom Ferguson" wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> It's great that you are so passionate about computing and its future. > >>>>>> You > >>>>>> might want to have a look at the difference between the same > >>>>>> generation of > >>>>>> Intel and Motorola processors. It is interesting how their respective > >>>>>> choice > >>>>>> of memory architecture has influenced the design of the CPU and the > >>>>>> influence that has had on OS design. (early MS and Apple/Mac OSs) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Also of interest is a comparison of the assembly language code needed > >>>>>> to > >>>>>> multiply floating point numerals on each processor. It is also > >>>>>> interesting > >>>>>> to compare the amount of code with the same processor using 8,16,32 > >>>>>> bits > >>>>>> respectively. It is also interesting to note the difference in code > >>>>>> complexity when a seemingly simple question must be answered: is x=y? > >>>>>> (That > >>>>>> translates, in machine terms, to: is the content of one given stack, > >>>>>> register, or memory location the same as the content in another given > >>>>>> stack, > >>>>>> register, or memory location?) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How I ramble on. Dude, I hope your interest continues! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tom Ferguson > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>>>>> news:EF2ED649-7B29-43CC-9A00-FFAA71F1843E@microsoft.com... > >>>>>> > When is microsoft going to make a OS only on 64-bit computing not > >>>>>> > 32-bit i > >>>>>> > am > >>>>>> > waiting for that to happening, Microsoft need to stop making 32-bit > >>>>>> > and > >>>>>> > start > >>>>>> > on nexts gen-computing 64-bit and they to give the Companys the new > >>>>>> > software > >>>>>> > to start working on 64-bit software projects when is microsoft > >>>>>> > going to do > >>>>>> > this. everybody is tire of 32-bit windows and want the new 64-bit > >>>>>> > windows > >>>>>> > we > >>>>>> > can not wait > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > >
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Uh-huh. "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:45C52917-F35F-4122-A95A-90AA92A73B49@microsoft.com... > I'm kinda feeling nostalgic down here (sob!). > Are we getting THAT old? > :) > Carlos > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > >> I know, its right next to the Timex-Sinclair. ;) >> >> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:7B1104B3-1522-4F2A-911B-2A535E2F40A0@microsoft.com... >> > Colin: >> > I was going to jump in earlier but decided to wait. I couldn't >> > afford a >> > Commodore 64, but I still have a Vic20 in the basement. Have a great >> > day. >> > >> > -- >> > Dennis Pack >> > XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64 >> > Office Professional Plus 2007
Guest Tom Ferguson Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Well, as the other guys reminisce about their mis-spent youth with Vic-20s, Commodore 64s, Sinclairs and the like (Altair, anyone?), all I can say about your question, aside from the fact that I don't know exactly what you are asking, is that I have no knowledge of Microsoft's plans. Tom "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:575EDB80-91AF-4504-84ED-FB7F82520C4F@microsoft.com... > so MVP is there news about developer making windows 64-bit backwared with > 32-bit windows on windows 7 or is it is it going to be like windows vista > we > have to wait for a service pack to see > {Snip}
Guest shadow Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows So MVP is there news about developer making windows 64-bit backwared with 32-bit windows on windows 7 or is it is it going to be like Windows Vista we have to wait for a service pack to see "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > Uh-huh. > > "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:45C52917-F35F-4122-A95A-90AA92A73B49@microsoft.com... > > I'm kinda feeling nostalgic down here (sob!). > > Are we getting THAT old? > > :) > > Carlos > > > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > > > >> I know, its right next to the Timex-Sinclair. ;) > >> > >> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message > >> news:7B1104B3-1522-4F2A-911B-2A535E2F40A0@microsoft.com... > >> > Colin: > >> > I was going to jump in earlier but decided to wait. I couldn't > >> > afford a > >> > Commodore 64, but I still have a Vic20 in the basement. Have a great > >> > day. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Dennis Pack > >> > XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64 > >> > Office Professional Plus 2007 >
Guest Zootal Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Stop, stop, I'm beginning to really feel my age. My first computer actually was a TS-1000....but IIRC, it had 4KB of ram, not 2 that wikipedia says it had. I could be wrong, that was a long time ago, after all....Hmm, my main workstation today has 4GB of ram, my first computer had .000004GB of ram... Does anyone here want to hear about how when I got my FCC General class license, how most of the test was on tube circuitry? We didn't do much with those new-fangled transistor thingys back then. Tubes just worked so much better <ggggg> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uIk8d0rQIHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Well, as the other guys reminisce about their mis-spent youth with > Vic-20s, Commodore 64s, Sinclairs and the like (Altair, anyone?), all I > can say about your question, aside from the fact that I don't know exactly > what you are asking, is that I have no knowledge of Microsoft's plans. > > Tom
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows The radar sets I works on in the Air Force had both mini-tubes and transistors. "Zootal" <Don't send me any freaking spam at zootal dot com remove the don't send me any freaking spam> wrote in message news:%23uhlfSsQIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Stop, stop, I'm beginning to really feel my age. My first computer > actually was a TS-1000....but IIRC, it had 4KB of ram, not 2 that > wikipedia says it had. I could be wrong, that was a long time ago, after > all....Hmm, my main workstation today has 4GB of ram, my first computer > had .000004GB of ram... > > Does anyone here want to hear about how when I got my FCC General class > license, how most of the test was on tube circuitry? We didn't do much > with those new-fangled transistor thingys back then. Tubes just worked so > much better <ggggg> > > > > "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:uIk8d0rQIHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Well, as the other guys reminisce about their mis-spent youth with >> Vic-20s, Commodore 64s, Sinclairs and the like (Altair, anyone?), all I >> can say about your question, aside from the fact that I don't know >> exactly what you are asking, is that I have no knowledge of Microsoft's >> plans. >> >> Tom > >
Guest Tont Sperling Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Naturally - if you program by 'hardwiring', tubes are a lot better! Tony. . . "Zootal" <Don't send me any freaking spam at zootal dot com remove the don't send me any freaking spam> wrote in message news:%23uhlfSsQIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Stop, stop, I'm beginning to really feel my age. My first computer > actually was a TS-1000....but IIRC, it had 4KB of ram, not 2 that > wikipedia says it had. I could be wrong, that was a long time ago, after > all....Hmm, my main workstation today has 4GB of ram, my first computer > had .000004GB of ram... > > Does anyone here want to hear about how when I got my FCC General class > license, how most of the test was on tube circuitry? We didn't do much > with those new-fangled transistor thingys back then. Tubes just worked so > much better <ggggg> > > > > "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:uIk8d0rQIHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Well, as the other guys reminisce about their mis-spent youth with >> Vic-20s, Commodore 64s, Sinclairs and the like (Altair, anyone?), all I >> can say about your question, aside from the fact that I don't know >> exactly what you are asking, is that I have no knowledge of Microsoft's >> plans. >> >> Tom > >
Guest Tont Sperling Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Seeing that 'backward compatibility' was flushed out with DOS, aren't we going to be much more concerned about forward compatibility? Tony. . . "shadow" <shadow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8A063FA3-577F-424C-AF51-2D3A73F35B67@microsoft.com... > So MVP is there news about developer making windows 64-bit backwared with > 32-bit windows on windows 7 or is it is it going to be like Windows Vista > we > have to wait for a service pack to see > > > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: > >> Uh-huh. >> >> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:45C52917-F35F-4122-A95A-90AA92A73B49@microsoft.com... >> > I'm kinda feeling nostalgic down here (sob!). >> > Are we getting THAT old? >> > :) >> > Carlos >> > >> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: >> > >> >> I know, its right next to the Timex-Sinclair. ;) >> >> >> >> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message >> >> news:7B1104B3-1522-4F2A-911B-2A535E2F40A0@microsoft.com... >> >> > Colin: >> >> > I was going to jump in earlier but decided to wait. I couldn't >> >> > afford a >> >> > Commodore 64, but I still have a Vic20 in the basement. Have a great >> >> > day. >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Dennis Pack >> >> > XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64 >> >> > Office Professional Plus 2007 >>
Guest Carlos Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Let us not forget the Texas Instruments TI99/4A personal computer. It was 16 bit when the rest was 8 bit. Tubes are great for audio, much better than transistors. The reason is very, but very simple. When they reach distortion, they do it with even harmonics which happen to be pleasant to the ear. Transistors generate odd harmonics when distorting and that accounts for their harsh sound. The ear doesn't like odd harmonics. The last tube variety that was still standing, the CRT, is slowly dying due to the fast advance of LCD. Long live the tube! Carlos "Zootal" wrote: > Stop, stop, I'm beginning to really feel my age. My first computer actually > was a TS-1000....but IIRC, it had 4KB of ram, not 2 that wikipedia says it > had. I could be wrong, that was a long time ago, after all....Hmm, my main > workstation today has 4GB of ram, my first computer had .000004GB of ram... > > Does anyone here want to hear about how when I got my FCC General class > license, how most of the test was on tube circuitry? We didn't do much with > those new-fangled transistor thingys back then. Tubes just worked so much > better <ggggg> > > > > "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:uIk8d0rQIHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > Well, as the other guys reminisce about their mis-spent youth with > > Vic-20s, Commodore 64s, Sinclairs and the like (Altair, anyone?), all I > > can say about your question, aside from the fact that I don't know exactly > > what you are asking, is that I have no knowledge of Microsoft's plans. > > > > Tom > > >
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows I still have a working HP 67 which had 256 bytes of memory and it don't think it is even 8-bits. "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CDBCEC63-2307-40BD-B64B-D6DBB3882C0F@microsoft.com... > Let us not forget the Texas Instruments TI99/4A personal computer. > It was 16 bit when the rest was 8 bit. > > Tubes are great for audio, much better than transistors. > The reason is very, but very simple. > When they reach distortion, they do it with even harmonics which happen to > be pleasant to the ear. > Transistors generate odd harmonics when distorting and that accounts for > their harsh sound. > The ear doesn't like odd harmonics. > > The last tube variety that was still standing, the CRT, is slowly dying > due > to the fast advance of LCD. > Long live the tube! > > Carlos > > "Zootal" wrote: > >> Stop, stop, I'm beginning to really feel my age. My first computer >> actually >> was a TS-1000....but IIRC, it had 4KB of ram, not 2 that wikipedia says >> it >> had. I could be wrong, that was a long time ago, after all....Hmm, my >> main >> workstation today has 4GB of ram, my first computer had .000004GB of >> ram... >> >> Does anyone here want to hear about how when I got my FCC General class >> license, how most of the test was on tube circuitry? We didn't do much >> with >> those new-fangled transistor thingys back then. Tubes just worked so much >> better <ggggg> >> >> >> >> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:uIk8d0rQIHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> > Well, as the other guys reminisce about their mis-spent youth with >> > Vic-20s, Commodore 64s, Sinclairs and the like (Altair, anyone?), all I >> > can say about your question, aside from the fact that I don't know >> > exactly >> > what you are asking, is that I have no knowledge of Microsoft's plans. >> > >> > Tom >> >> >>
Guest Tont Sperling Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Re: When is 64-bit OS going to be the only windows Oh, yes - I was a great fan of those kinds of tubes. I had a batch of french military tubes that were built for radar equipment, they were absolutely fantastic! I don't know if age has had an influence, or if computer aided filtering techniques changed enough but now I cannot say that I can actually hear a significant difference any longer - the days are definitely (and sadly) gone when I would like to invest in a Huffmann amp. I miss both interpretations of their friendly glow! Tony. . . (P.S. - I have no idea what happened to my signature - I tried to change it but it refuses to be corrected)
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