Re: OneNote 2007, Groove 2007 doesn't fully work on Vista 64

[Guest David F]

Re: OneNote 2007, Groove 2007 doesn't fully work on Vista 64

 

I had meant to cross post this with the 64bit newsgroup and I just realized

that it didn't work.

 

"David F" <dfumento@ATSIGNgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

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> Regarding security features, see:

> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_ff_x64.asp

> In summary,

> 1. Hardware DEP (using NX No Execute hardware) vs. Software DEP in Vista

> 32. Hardware DEP is better.

> 2. Address Space Layout Randomizer.

> 3. Patchguard to protect kernel modification. (NOTE: a change will be

> made in SP1 which will allow 3rd party vendors (e.g. security)) to modify

> the kernel.

>

> Also, regarding stability:

> 1. Only digitally signed drivers.

>

> Other advantages of 64 is that I run out of handles in 32 and despite the

> fact that I have plenty of memory, applications just refuse to load. You

> can make changes to the registry that helps, but not all that well.

>

> At any rate, I and many other users need the larger address space support

> for running applicatoins and in my case large programs and database

> support.

>

> Also, as a matter of principal, people expect that Microsoft Office would

> run the same on both Vista 32 and Vista 64, although they would not expect

> the same of other firms applications (e.g. Cisco's older legacy VPN client

> which only runs on Vista 32). As it is, I can't imagine that it would

> take Microsoft that much time and effort to make Office for OneNote and

> Groove to be fully functional with 64-bit. Frankly, it makes Microsoft

> look like they don't take 64-bit that seriously for now.

>

> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>>I have it on my Acer because it came with it, but I don't really need it

>>to be honest with you. Office 2007 works just fine on it, I don't have

>>certain apps like CS3 since they are not really Vista x64 ready.

>> --

>> Andre

>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com

>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:

>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry

>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

>> news:uPrnH10SIHA.1924@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> "David F" <dfumento@ATSIGNgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

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>>>> Mike,

>>>> Thanks for the quick reply, but since Microsoft is selling 64 bit as a

>>>> product they ought to fully support it to the same level as Vista 32

>>>> especially with their premier office product line, Office.

>>>>

>>>> I need the 64 bit b/c of extra memory space provided, other do too.

>>>> Moreover, Vista 64 is a far more secure OS than 32.

>>>>

>>>> Happy New Year.

>>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:ekxj2h0SIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> "David F" <dfumento@ATSIGNgmailDOT.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:714F1E4B-E841-4846-A993-F5CFF7DE4458@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> OneNote is a marvelous tool and one great feature is to be able to

>>>>>> from Word or Powerpoint or Excel "print to OneNote", that is, to send

>>>>>> the document over to OneNote.

>>>>>> While this works on Vista 32, it does not work on Vista 64 because

>>>>>> Microsoft didn't write a driver for it. A Microsoft software

>>>>>> engineer that works with OneNote wrote a response to my query that

>>>>>> basically says not to expect a driver until the next major version of

>>>>>> Office

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> One expects that MS Office would work the same on 64-bit as on

>>>>>>>> 32-bit. Some

>>>>>>>> of us need to use the 64-bit for other reasons (e.g. some

>>>>>>>> development work).

>>>>>>>> Could MSFT please comment as to when the following will be

>>>>>>>> available?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/suites/HA101668651033.aspx#9

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> 4) Send to OneNote 2007 print driver and Internet Fax not available

>>>>>>>> on 64 bit OS. >Groove Folder Synchronization not available on 64

>>>>>>>> bit operating system. Office Clean-up >> wizard not available on 64

>>>>>>>> bit OS.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> A Microsoft software engineer that works on OneNote wrote this reply

>>>>>> to my query in the onenote newsgroup.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Full 64bit support is expected in the next major version of Office.

>>>>>>> I am

>>>>>>> not currently aware of any plans to implement the 64bit print driver

>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>> OneNote 2007.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Ilya

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I think it really stinks that Microsoft isn't fully supporting it's

>>>>>> own Vista 64 OS.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> It is as much a case of some wanting to go to 64bit Vista just for the

>>>>> sake of it.

>>>>>

>>>>> 64bit is not ready for general use yet and unless there is a specific

>>>>> need to have a 64bit, it is still best to stay with 32bit Vista..

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP

>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> For the most part, Office does run on 64bit although there may be one or

>>> two functions within Office which are not supported, as you have found.

>>> It will be a while before 64bit becomes mainstream even though major

>>> hardware seems to be these days. I have a 64bit DVD, but will not use

>>> it. For now, I will go with better compatibility, but then again, I

>>> don't have a 64bit mission specific application that I need to run.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Mike Hall - MVP

>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

>>>

>>>

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