My First Vista x64 Installation

[Guest Steve Winograd]

Hi Everyone,

 

I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

 

I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

 

Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

 

These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

 

Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

AMD 64-bit.

 

The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

 

My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

 

The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

wireless network adapter.

 

My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

monitors. :-)

--

Best Wishes,

Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

 

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

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[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

Congratulations and Happy New Year.

 

"Steve Winograd" <bc070521m@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:0gojn3dlu8pt3occt1dkpsheqg07j0ei17@4ax.com...

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>

> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>

> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>

> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>

> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

> AMD 64-bit.

>

> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>

> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>

> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

> wireless network adapter.

>

> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

> monitors. :-)

> --

> Best Wishes,

> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

>

> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

>

> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

[Guest Zootal]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

Where did you find 64 bit drivers for AverMedia TV tuner? I have an old one,

and I didn't think they even made XP drivers for it.

 

 

"Steve Winograd" <bc070521m@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:0gojn3dlu8pt3occt1dkpsheqg07j0ei17@4ax.com...

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>

> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>

> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>

> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>

> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

> AMD 64-bit.

>

> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>

> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>

> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

> wireless network adapter.

>

> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

> monitors. :-)

> --

> Best Wishes,

> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

>

> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

>

> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

[Guest Steve Winograd]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 00:14:25 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"

<colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote:

>> Hi Everyone,

>>

>> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

>> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>>

>> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

>> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

>> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

>> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>>

>> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

>> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

>> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

>> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>>

>> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

>> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

>> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

>> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>>

>> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

>> AMD 64-bit.

>>

>> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

>> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>>

>> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

>> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>>

>> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

>> wireless network adapter.

>>

>> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

>> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

>> monitors. :-)

>

>Congratulations and Happy New Year.

 

Thanks, Colin. Happy New Year to you, too.

--

Best Wishes,

Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

 

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

 

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

[Guest Steve Winograd]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:34:18 -0800, "Zootal"

<msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote:

>> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

>> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>>

>> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

>> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

>> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

>> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>>

>> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

>> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

>> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

>> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>>

>> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

>> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

>> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

>> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>>

>> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

>> AMD 64-bit.

>>

>> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

>> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>>

>> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

>> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>>

>> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

>> wireless network adapter.

>>

>> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

>> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

>> monitors. :-)

>

>Where did you find 64 bit drivers for AverMedia TV tuner? I have an old one,

>and I didn't think they even made XP drivers for it.

 

Vista has a built-in 64-bit driver for the AverMedia M791 PCIe Combo

NTSC/ATSC tuner. I mistakenly said that Gateway has the driver. The

driver on the Gateway web site is 32-bit.

 

AVerMedia has a 64-bit driver here:

 

http://www.aver.com/mpd/support/download/m791_pcie.html

 

AVerMedia drivers for other products are here. I hope that your tuner

is included:

 

http://www.aver.com/mpd/support/download/download.html

--

Best Wishes,

Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

 

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

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[Guest Zootal]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

Mine is in the "discontinued" section, it's an old TVFM98 card. The Aver US

people are clueless. They told me there were no XP drivers for my card, so I

went to the Taiwan Aver site, and found them there. Works very will with

XP32. Alas, no XP64 drivers...<sigh>....

 

"Steve Winograd" <bc070521m@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:opsjn3pf3sot7k7146mmlfr5ginf07oaha@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:34:18 -0800, "Zootal"

> <msnews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote:

>>> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

>>> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>>>

>>> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

>>> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

>>> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

>>> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>>>

>>> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

>>> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

>>> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

>>> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>>>

>>> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

>>> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

>>> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

>>> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>>>

>>> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

>>> AMD 64-bit.

>>>

>>> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

>>> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>>>

>>> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

>>> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>>>

>>> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

>>> wireless network adapter.

>>>

>>> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

>>> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

>>> monitors. :-)

>>

>>Where did you find 64 bit drivers for AverMedia TV tuner? I have an old

>>one,

>>and I didn't think they even made XP drivers for it.

>

> Vista has a built-in 64-bit driver for the AverMedia M791 PCIe Combo

> NTSC/ATSC tuner. I mistakenly said that Gateway has the driver. The

> driver on the Gateway web site is 32-bit.

>

> AVerMedia has a 64-bit driver here:

>

> http://www.aver.com/mpd/support/download/m791_pcie.html

>

> AVerMedia drivers for other products are here. I hope that your tuner

> is included:

>

> http://www.aver.com/mpd/support/download/download.html

> --

> Best Wishes,

> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

>

> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

>

> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

[Guest R. C. White]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

Congratulations, Steve!

 

Welcome to the 64-bit world! I've been running Vista Ultimate x64 since RTM

on a homebuilt rig very similar to your Gateway (AMD 64 X2 5000+, 4 GB RAM,

etc.) and am very happy with it. After fighting with drivers and a few

incompatible programs all through the Vista beta, I was very pleased to find

that practically all the drivers I needed were that at RTM and that the

final few apps were compatible with the final Vista.

 

Enjoy! And Happy New Year to you, too!

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)

 

"Steve Winograd" <bc070521m@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:0gojn3dlu8pt3occt1dkpsheqg07j0ei17@4ax.com...

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>

> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>

> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>

> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>

> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

> AMD 64-bit.

>

> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>

> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>

> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

> wireless network adapter.

>

> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

> monitors. :-)

> --

> Best Wishes,

> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

Welcome to our 64-bit world, Steve. You've obviously done your homework and

understand the dynamics of moving to a new architecture.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Steve Winograd" <bc070521m@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:0gojn3dlu8pt3occt1dkpsheqg07j0ei17@4ax.com...

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>

> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>

> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>

> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>

> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

> AMD 64-bit.

>

> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>

> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>

> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

> wireless network adapter.

>

> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

> monitors. :-)

> --

> Best Wishes,

> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

>

> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

>

> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

[Guest Steve Winograd]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 09:45:40 -0600, "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net>

wrote:

>> Hi Everyone,

>>

>> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

>> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>>

>> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

>> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

>> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

>> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>>

>> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

>> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

>> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

>> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>>

>> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

>> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

>> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

>> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>>

>> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

>> AMD 64-bit.

>>

>> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

>> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>>

>> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

>> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>>

>> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

>> wireless network adapter.

>>

>> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

>> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

>> monitors. :-)

>

>Congratulations, Steve!

>

>Welcome to the 64-bit world! I've been running Vista Ultimate x64 since RTM

>on a homebuilt rig very similar to your Gateway (AMD 64 X2 5000+, 4 GB RAM,

>etc.) and am very happy with it. After fighting with drivers and a few

>incompatible programs all through the Vista beta, I was very pleased to find

>that practically all the drivers I needed were that at RTM and that the

>final few apps were compatible with the final Vista.

>

>Enjoy! And Happy New Year to you, too!

>

>RC

 

Thanks, RC. I was pleased with the driver and app support, too.

 

Happy New Year!

--

Best Wishes,

Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

 

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

 

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

[Guest Steve Winograd]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 08:01:48 -0800, "Charlie Russel - MVP"

<charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

>> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>>

>> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

>> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

>> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

>> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>>

>> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

>> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

>> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

>> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>>

>> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

>> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

>> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

>> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>>

>> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

>> AMD 64-bit.

>>

>> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

>> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>>

>> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

>> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>>

>> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

>> wireless network adapter.

>>

>> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

>> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

>> monitors. :-)

>

>Welcome to our 64-bit world, Steve. You've obviously done your homework and

>understand the dynamics of moving to a new architecture.

 

Thanks, Charlie. The people in this news group are great teachers. :-)

 

I notice that most of the replies to my first message are top-posted.

Is that the convention here? If so, I'll consider switching. The

other Msnews groups that I take part in are almost all bottom-posted.

--

Best Wishes,

Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

 

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

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[Guest Carlos]

RE: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

Steve,

Congratulations and welcome to the 64-bit world.

Regarding your "old" Motorola USB wireless network adapter there is always a

chance that the same chipset may be used or produced by another manufacturer.

Go to Device Manager, right click on your USB adapter, go to the detail

tabs, choose Hardware ID and take note of the VID and PID entries.

The first one identifies the real manufacturer and the second one the device

itself.

Go here:

http://www.pcidatabase.com/

And input your VID in the dialog box in order to find out the real

manufacturer.

Try googling from there on with that info, VID PID and manufacturer, in

order to find equivalent USB adapters that might have Vista x64 drivers.

That worked for me with an unknown brand webcam for which I found drivers in

Genius.

Carlos

 

"Steve Winograd" wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>

> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>

> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>

> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>

> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

> AMD 64-bit.

>

> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>

> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>

> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

> wireless network adapter.

>

> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

> monitors. :-)

> --

> Best Wishes,

> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

>

> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

>

> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

>

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

We seem to be mostly a top-post group, but one of the "rules" here is that

we don't get into "religous wars". Not about processors, not about windows

v. linux, and not about top v. bottom posting. ;)

 

We try to be tolerant and helpful. And collegial. So do whatever works for

you. I'm a top poster, since I have already got the entire thread there,

persistent in OE/WM, and it's just easier for me.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Steve Winograd" <bc070521m@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:fqvkn3pv5gom9aa6ccgp7to3uutt9uu3jr@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 08:01:48 -0800, "Charlie Russel - MVP"

> <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>>> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

>>> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>>>

>>> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

>>> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

>>> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

>>> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>>>

>>> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

>>> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

>>> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

>>> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>>>

>>> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

>>> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

>>> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

>>> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>>>

>>> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

>>> AMD 64-bit.

>>>

>>> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

>>> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>>>

>>> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

>>> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>>>

>>> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

>>> wireless network adapter.

>>>

>>> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

>>> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

>>> monitors. :-)

>>

>>Welcome to our 64-bit world, Steve. You've obviously done your homework

>>and

>>understand the dynamics of moving to a new architecture.

>

> Thanks, Charlie. The people in this news group are great teachers. :-)

>

> I notice that most of the replies to my first message are top-posted.

> Is that the convention here? If so, I'll consider switching. The

> other Msnews groups that I take part in are almost all bottom-posted.

> --

> Best Wishes,

> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

>

> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

>

> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

Now that's a really useful description of the process, Carlos. Mind if I

steal it for the xperts64 blog?

 

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:C6522C77-7AE0-40CA-B534-6A386C3D1245@microsoft.com...

> Steve,

> Congratulations and welcome to the 64-bit world.

> Regarding your "old" Motorola USB wireless network adapter there is always

> a

> chance that the same chipset may be used or produced by another

> manufacturer.

> Go to Device Manager, right click on your USB adapter, go to the detail

> tabs, choose Hardware ID and take note of the VID and PID entries.

> The first one identifies the real manufacturer and the second one the

> device

> itself.

> Go here:

> http://www.pcidatabase.com/

> And input your VID in the dialog box in order to find out the real

> manufacturer.

> Try googling from there on with that info, VID PID and manufacturer, in

> order to find equivalent USB adapters that might have Vista x64 drivers.

> That worked for me with an unknown brand webcam for which I found drivers

> in

> Genius.

> Carlos

>

> "Steve Winograd" wrote:

>

>> Hi Everyone,

>>

>> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

>> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>>

>> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

>> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

>> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

>> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>>

>> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

>> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

>> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

>> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>>

>> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

>> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

>> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

>> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>>

>> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

>> AMD 64-bit.

>>

>> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

>> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>>

>> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

>> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>>

>> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

>> wireless network adapter.

>>

>> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

>> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

>> monitors. :-)

>> --

>> Best Wishes,

>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

>>

>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

>>

>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

>>

[Guest Carlos]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

Charlie,

Glad to share part of my bag o' tricks with everybody!

A comprehensive list of VID's and PID's can be found here:

http://www.pcidatabase.com/reports.php?type=tab-delimeted

Carlos

 

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> Now that's a really useful description of the process, Carlos. Mind if I

> steal it for the xperts64 blog?

>

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

>

> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C6522C77-7AE0-40CA-B534-6A386C3D1245@microsoft.com...

> > Steve,

> > Congratulations and welcome to the 64-bit world.

> > Regarding your "old" Motorola USB wireless network adapter there is always

> > a

> > chance that the same chipset may be used or produced by another

> > manufacturer.

> > Go to Device Manager, right click on your USB adapter, go to the detail

> > tabs, choose Hardware ID and take note of the VID and PID entries.

> > The first one identifies the real manufacturer and the second one the

> > device

> > itself.

> > Go here:

> > http://www.pcidatabase.com/

> > And input your VID in the dialog box in order to find out the real

> > manufacturer.

> > Try googling from there on with that info, VID PID and manufacturer, in

> > order to find equivalent USB adapters that might have Vista x64 drivers.

> > That worked for me with an unknown brand webcam for which I found drivers

> > in

> > Genius.

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Steve Winograd" wrote:

> >

> >> Hi Everyone,

> >>

> >> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

> >> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

> >>

> >> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

> >> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

> >> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

> >> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

> >>

> >> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

> >> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

> >> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

> >> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

> >>

> >> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

> >> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

> >> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

> >> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

> >>

> >> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

> >> AMD 64-bit.

> >>

> >> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

> >> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

> >>

> >> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

> >> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

> >>

> >> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

> >> wireless network adapter.

> >>

> >> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

> >> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

> >> monitors. :-)

> >> --

> >> Best Wishes,

> >> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

> >>

> >> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

> >> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

> >> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

> >>

> >> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

> >>

>

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

Posted. Thanks.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:88BAD850-43BD-410E-8A69-D1BAFCCE8324@microsoft.com...

> Charlie,

> Glad to share part of my bag o' tricks with everybody!

> A comprehensive list of VID's and PID's can be found here:

> http://www.pcidatabase.com/reports.php?type=tab-delimeted

> Carlos

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

>

>> Now that's a really useful description of the process, Carlos. Mind if I

>> steal it for the xperts64 blog?

>>

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>>

>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:C6522C77-7AE0-40CA-B534-6A386C3D1245@microsoft.com...

>> > Steve,

>> > Congratulations and welcome to the 64-bit world.

>> > Regarding your "old" Motorola USB wireless network adapter there is

>> > always

>> > a

>> > chance that the same chipset may be used or produced by another

>> > manufacturer.

>> > Go to Device Manager, right click on your USB adapter, go to the detail

>> > tabs, choose Hardware ID and take note of the VID and PID entries.

>> > The first one identifies the real manufacturer and the second one the

>> > device

>> > itself.

>> > Go here:

>> > http://www.pcidatabase.com/

>> > And input your VID in the dialog box in order to find out the real

>> > manufacturer.

>> > Try googling from there on with that info, VID PID and manufacturer, in

>> > order to find equivalent USB adapters that might have Vista x64

>> > drivers.

>> > That worked for me with an unknown brand webcam for which I found

>> > drivers

>> > in

>> > Genius.

>> > Carlos

>> >

>> > "Steve Winograd" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Hi Everyone,

>> >>

>> >> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

>> >> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>> >>

>> >> I got a great price on a new Gateway GM5472, with 2.6 GHz Athlon 64 X2

>> >> dual core 5000+. After increasing RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB and replacing

>> >> the 300W power supply with 500W, I wiped out Gateway's 32-bit Vista

>> >> Home Premium and installed 64-bit Vista Ultimate.

>> >>

>> >> Installation was uneventful. 64-bit drivers for all of the built-in

>> >> devices, including the AverMedia TV tuner, were available on Gateway's

>> >> web site and from Windows Update. I added a PCI Hauppauge WinTV-PVR

>> >> 150 TV tuner, which works with Vista's built-in drivers.

>> >>

>> >> These applications are installed and running fine: Virtual PC 2007,

>> >> Firefox, Thunderbird, Forte Agent, Second Copy, ShortKeys, Whisper 32,

>> >> News Rover, WorldMerge, Irfan View, MailWasher Pro, Office 2007,

>> >> Noteworthy Composer, NOD32 Antivirus, BurnCDCC, ImgBurn.

>> >>

>> >> Virtual machines that I created on a 32-bit Intel system run fine on

>> >> AMD 64-bit.

>> >>

>> >> The only application that won't install is Comcast Rhapsody, because

>> >> of DRM. I can access Comcast Rhapsody from a web site, so that's OK.

>> >>

>> >> My networked HP LaserJet 2600n and Brother MFC-440CN printers work

>> >> fine. So does an HP LaserJet 6P on a D-Link DP-300U print server.

>> >>

>> >> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

>> >> wireless network adapter.

>> >>

>> >> My favorite thing is that I added a PCIe GeForce 8500 GT graphics card

>> >> and, along with the built-in GeForce 6150SE, I'm running three

>> >> monitors. :-)

>> >> --

>> >> Best Wishes,

>> >> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

>> >>

>> >> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

>> >> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

>> >> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

>> >>

>> >> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

>> >>

>>

[Guest Steve Winograd]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:32:05 -0800, Carlos

<Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

>> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

>>[snip]

>> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

>> wireless network adapter.

>

>Steve,

>Congratulations and welcome to the 64-bit world.

>Regarding your "old" Motorola USB wireless network adapter there is always a

>chance that the same chipset may be used or produced by another manufacturer.

>Go to Device Manager, right click on your USB adapter, go to the detail

>tabs, choose Hardware ID and take note of the VID and PID entries.

>The first one identifies the real manufacturer and the second one the device

>itself.

>Go here:

>http://www.pcidatabase.com/

>And input your VID in the dialog box in order to find out the real

>manufacturer.

>Try googling from there on with that info, VID PID and manufacturer, in

>order to find equivalent USB adapters that might have Vista x64 drivers.

>That worked for me with an unknown brand webcam for which I found drivers in

>Genius.

>Carlos

 

Thanks, Carlos -- that's a great tip about finding drivers.

 

The VID for the Motorola USB wireless NIC is 07B2. That number

doesn't appear in the PCI database.

--

Best Wishes,

Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

 

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

 

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

I entirely agree - this is extremely usefull if you're cornered. This is

promptly being re-directed off to the printer and inserted in my reference

library.

 

Good work, Carlos!

 

 

Tony. . .

[Guest Carlos]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

Thanks, Tony!

 

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> I entirely agree - this is extremely usefull if you're cornered. This is

> promptly being re-directed off to the printer and inserted in my reference

> library.

>

> Good work, Carlos!

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

>

[Guest Carlos]

Re: My First Vista x64 Installation

 

Steve,

A little of googling took me to this additional database:

http://www.filewatcher.com/p/usbutils-0.11-5mdk.src.rpm.227936/usb.ids.html

where VID 07B2 is assigned to Motorola BCS, Inc.

There's one device listed under that VID.

It is a PID 4100 which happens to be a Motorola SB4100 Cable Modem.

I don't know which is the PID for your USB modem, but you might find

something in the web searching for the VID together with the PID.

Carlos

 

"Steve Winograd" wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:32:05 -0800, Carlos

> <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> >> I've been reading and learning a lot in this news group, and I want to

> >> describe my very good first experience with 64-bit Windows.

> >>[snip]

> >> The only device that won't install is a discontinued Motorola USB

> >> wireless network adapter.

> >

> >Steve,

> >Congratulations and welcome to the 64-bit world.

> >Regarding your "old" Motorola USB wireless network adapter there is always a

> >chance that the same chipset may be used or produced by another manufacturer.

> >Go to Device Manager, right click on your USB adapter, go to the detail

> >tabs, choose Hardware ID and take note of the VID and PID entries.

> >The first one identifies the real manufacturer and the second one the device

> >itself.

> >Go here:

> >http://www.pcidatabase.com/

> >And input your VID in the dialog box in order to find out the real

> >manufacturer.

> >Try googling from there on with that info, VID PID and manufacturer, in

> >order to find equivalent USB adapters that might have Vista x64 drivers.

> >That worked for me with an unknown brand webcam for which I found drivers in

> >Genius.

> >Carlos

>

> Thanks, Carlos -- that's a great tip about finding drivers.

>

> The VID for the Motorola USB wireless NIC is 07B2. That number

> doesn't appear in the PCI database.

> --

> Best Wishes,

> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

>

> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group

> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions

> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

>

> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

>