Slow startup

[Guest Don Eilenberger]

Folks, one of my W2K Servers (running DNS and AD) has started taking 30

minutes to complete the "Starting Windows 2000" screen. The activity bar at

the bottom moves at normal speed to about 2/3rds done - then it sits there

for almost exactly 30 minutes and finally completes and W2K starts.

 

Any ideas? It didn't always do this.

 

BTW - configuration includes 2 network cards, one for our internal network

(192.168.0.subnet) the other for outside connectivity to our T1 connection.

The server runs one basic program - MailTraq - which is our mail server

software.

 

Any ideas?

[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: Slow startup

 

Hello Don,

 

Multihoming a DC is not recommended by MS and can cause a lot of problems.

So please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the machine here.

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

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> Folks, one of my W2K Servers (running DNS and AD) has started taking

> 30 minutes to complete the "Starting Windows 2000" screen. The

> activity bar at the bottom moves at normal speed to about 2/3rds done

> - then it sits there for almost exactly 30 minutes and finally

> completes and W2K starts.

>

> Any ideas? It didn't always do this.

>

> BTW - configuration includes 2 network cards, one for our internal

> network (192.168.0.subnet) the other for outside connectivity to our

> T1 connection. The server runs one basic program - MailTraq - which is

> our mail server software.

>

> Any ideas?

>

[Guest Pete B]

RE: Slow startup

 

Have you deployed any new software lately using GPO's? Check the event logs.

Any interesting logs there? Try running DCDIAG and check that all is well.

 

"Don Eilenberger" wrote:

> Folks, one of my W2K Servers (running DNS and AD) has started taking 30

> minutes to complete the "Starting Windows 2000" screen. The activity bar at

> the bottom moves at normal speed to about 2/3rds done - then it sits there

> for almost exactly 30 minutes and finally completes and W2K starts.

>

> Any ideas? It didn't always do this.

>

> BTW - configuration includes 2 network cards, one for our internal network

> (192.168.0.subnet) the other for outside connectivity to our T1 connection.

> The server runs one basic program - MailTraq - which is our mail server

> software.

>

> Any ideas?

[Guest tex shalter]

Re: Slow startup

 

I would take out hardware pci cards etc. out one by one and see if that

helps.

Could be as simple as needing uncorrupted driver- meaning reinstall

 

or just come to work 30 minutes sooner

 

"Pete B" <PeteB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:C1B27492-977A-40CA-A7F9-CDB615FA3D8C@microsoft.com...

> Have you deployed any new software lately using GPO's? Check the event

logs.

> Any interesting logs there? Try running DCDIAG and check that all is well.

>

> "Don Eilenberger" wrote:

>

> > Folks, one of my W2K Servers (running DNS and AD) has started taking 30

> > minutes to complete the "Starting Windows 2000" screen. The activity bar

at

> > the bottom moves at normal speed to about 2/3rds done - then it sits

there

> > for almost exactly 30 minutes and finally completes and W2K starts.

> >

> > Any ideas? It didn't always do this.

> >

> > BTW - configuration includes 2 network cards, one for our internal

network

> > (192.168.0.subnet) the other for outside connectivity to our T1

connection.

> > The server runs one basic program - MailTraq - which is our mail server

> > software.

> >

> > Any ideas?

[Guest Don Eilenberger]

Re: Slow startup

 

Meinolf, thanks.

 

I ran DCPROMO to demote this server (it didn't really have to be a DC) - and

of course it now is taking forever (several hours so far) to demote it.

 

I ran IPCONFIG /ALL and here are the results:

 

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

 

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MAIL_BIDSERVICE

Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : int.bidservice.com

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : int.bidservice.com

bidservice.com

 

Ethernet adapter WAN Connection 64.19.188.12:

 

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7761 Gigabit Server Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-21-FB-XX-XX

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 64.19.###.##

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.240

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 64.19.###.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.190

192.168.0.151

209.191.0.1

209.191.0.2

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

 

Ethernet adapter LAN Connection 192.168.0.2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7771 Gigabit Server Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-10-18-10-YY-YY

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.190

192.168.0.151

 

 

NOTE - I did change the physical addresses and the outside IP# listed just

so they can't be used for spam or hacking..

 

Thanks much for the help.. I suspect I'll be doing a hard reboot of the

server shortly to get the DCPROMO to end (in looking at the domain on another

DC - the server has been demoted to a member machine..)

 

 

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello Don,

>

> Multihoming a DC is not recommended by MS and can cause a lot of problems.

> So please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the machine here.

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

> no rights.

> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

> > Folks, one of my W2K Servers (running DNS and AD) has started taking

> > 30 minutes to complete the "Starting Windows 2000" screen. The

> > activity bar at the bottom moves at normal speed to about 2/3rds done

> > - then it sits there for almost exactly 30 minutes and finally

> > completes and W2K starts.

> >

> > Any ideas? It didn't always do this.

> >

> > BTW - configuration includes 2 network cards, one for our internal

> > network (192.168.0.subnet) the other for outside connectivity to our

> > T1 connection. The server runs one basic program - MailTraq - which is

> > our mail server software.

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

>

>

>

[Guest Don Eilenberger]

Re: Slow startup

 

Update: After about 2 hours - with the DCPROMO sitting at the same screen

(removing SMS and something else..) I finally killed the process, and then

rebooted the machine. When I did - I got a message that sounds as if DCPROMO

was waiting for input from me - but hadn't displayed it (probably asking to

reboot the server..)

 

Instead of taking 30 minutes at the Starting Windows 2000 Server screen - it

took about 6-7 minutes. It then took another 5-6 minutes to apply security

settings (which I assume it was doing to all the files on the drives since

the floppy drive lit up several times during this..) - and then it was up and

running.

 

I haven't tried rebooting it again - since it is a working server and people

get pissed when they can't send/receive email - but I'll try it next week

after they forget :-) And report back.

 

Thanks for the hints.. I think it being a DC was the problem.

 

"Don Eilenberger" wrote:

> Meinolf, thanks.

>

> I ran DCPROMO to demote this server (it didn't really have to be a DC) - and

> of course it now is taking forever (several hours so far) to demote it.

[Guest Meinolf Weber]

Re: Slow startup

 

Hello Don,

 

The slow startup is the problem because you are using a public ip 64.X.X.X.

for the machine and external and internal ip addresses for DNS servers.

So the best solution is take a router (with the external public ip), connected

it via switch and use private ip addresses for internal only. Configure the

external DNS server addresses as forwarders on the DNS server properties

in DNS management console.

 

Best regards

 

Meinolf Weber

Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

no rights.

** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> Meinolf, thanks.

>

> I ran DCPROMO to demote this server (it didn't really have to be a DC)

> - and of course it now is taking forever (several hours so far) to

> demote it.

>

> I ran IPCONFIG /ALL and here are the results:

>

> Windows 2000 IP Configuration

>

> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MAIL_BIDSERVICE

> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : int.bidservice.com

> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast

> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : int.bidservice.com

> bidservice.com

> Ethernet adapter WAN Connection 64.19.188.12:

>

> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7761 Gigabit Server Adapter

> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-21-FB-XX-XX

> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 64.19.###.##

> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.240

> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 64.19.###.1

> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.190

> 192.168.0.151

> 209.191.0.1

> 209.191.0.2

> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

> Ethernet adapter LAN Connection 192.168.0.2:

> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7771 Gigabit Server Adapter

> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-10-18-10-YY-YY

> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2

> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.190

> 192.168.0.151

> NOTE - I did change the physical addresses and the outside IP# listed

> just so they can't be used for spam or hacking..

>

> Thanks much for the help.. I suspect I'll be doing a hard reboot of

> the server shortly to get the DCPROMO to end (in looking at the domain

> on another DC - the server has been demoted to a member machine..)

>

> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:

>

>> Hello Don,

>>

>> Multihoming a DC is not recommended by MS and can cause a lot of

>> problems. So please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the machine

>> here.

>>

>> Best regards

>>

>> Meinolf Weber

>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>> confers

>> no rights.

>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>> Folks, one of my W2K Servers (running DNS and AD) has started taking

>>> 30 minutes to complete the "Starting Windows 2000" screen. The

>>> activity bar at the bottom moves at normal speed to about 2/3rds

>>> done - then it sits there for almost exactly 30 minutes and finally

>>> completes and W2K starts.

>>>

>>> Any ideas? It didn't always do this.

>>>

>>> BTW - configuration includes 2 network cards, one for our internal

>>> network (192.168.0.subnet) the other for outside connectivity to our

>>> T1 connection. The server runs one basic program - MailTraq - which

>>> is our mail server software.

>>>

>>> Any ideas?

>>>

[Guest Don Eilenberger]

Re: Slow startup

 

Dear Meinolf,

 

Thanks much again -

 

Can you point me to a source of info on how to do this? My brain is

particularly fuzzy on Monday mornings (not helped by a bad head cold that had

me awake last night.)

 

I should probably clarify - this machine is running mail server software -

from MailTraq. It has the external IP address 64.19.###.### to receive and

send mail on (actually incoming mail is accepted by a Barracuda spam filter

on an external address and then forwarded to this address.. but effectively -

it's accepting the incoming mail on 64.19..) And my users - who are behind

our Router - on the 192.168.###.### subnet - access and send email using the

192.168 connection.

 

The DNS server on this machine refuses to work - I get the error message

"Cannot contact the DNS Server" (with the long explaination - including it

not running.) If I look in services - it is running, and if I do "Properties"

on it - and run the DNS tests - both Simple and recursive pass (as does

NSLOOKUP from a DOS prompt.)

 

Any help is gratefully appreciated!

 

Thanks!

 

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello Don,

>

> The slow startup is the problem because you are using a public ip 64.X.X.X.

> for the machine and external and internal ip addresses for DNS servers.

> So the best solution is take a router (with the external public ip), connected

> it via switch and use private ip addresses for internal only. Configure the

> external DNS server addresses as forwarders on the DNS server properties

> in DNS management console.

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

> no rights.

> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

> > Meinolf, thanks.

> >

> > I ran DCPROMO to demote this server (it didn't really have to be a DC)

> > - and of course it now is taking forever (several hours so far) to

> > demote it.

> >

> > I ran IPCONFIG /ALL and here are the results:

> >

> > Windows 2000 IP Configuration

> >

> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MAIL_BIDSERVICE

> > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : int.bidservice.com

> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast

> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : int.bidservice.com

> > bidservice.com

> > Ethernet adapter WAN Connection 64.19.188.12:

> >

> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7761 Gigabit Server Adapter

> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-21-FB-XX-XX

> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 64.19.###.##

> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.240

> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 64.19.###.1

> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.190

> > 192.168.0.151

> > 209.191.0.1

> > 209.191.0.2

> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

> > Ethernet adapter LAN Connection 192.168.0.2:

> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7771 Gigabit Server Adapter

> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-10-18-10-YY-YY

> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2

> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.190

> > 192.168.0.151

> > NOTE - I did change the physical addresses and the outside IP# listed

> > just so they can't be used for spam or hacking..

> >

> > Thanks much for the help.. I suspect I'll be doing a hard reboot of

> > the server shortly to get the DCPROMO to end (in looking at the domain

> > on another DC - the server has been demoted to a member machine..)

> >

> > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> >

> >> Hello Don,

> >>

> >> Multihoming a DC is not recommended by MS and can cause a lot of

> >> problems. So please post an unedited ipconfig /all from the machine

> >> here.

> >>

> >> Best regards

> >>

> >> Meinolf Weber

> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> >> confers

> >> no rights.

> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>> Folks, one of my W2K Servers (running DNS and AD) has started taking

> >>> 30 minutes to complete the "Starting Windows 2000" screen. The

> >>> activity bar at the bottom moves at normal speed to about 2/3rds

> >>> done - then it sits there for almost exactly 30 minutes and finally

> >>> completes and W2K starts.

> >>>

> >>> Any ideas? It didn't always do this.

> >>>

> >>> BTW - configuration includes 2 network cards, one for our internal

> >>> network (192.168.0.subnet) the other for outside connectivity to our

> >>> T1 connection. The server runs one basic program - MailTraq - which

> >>> is our mail server software.

> >>>

> >>> Any ideas?

> >>>

>

>

>