Administrative tools >Performance console

January 6, 2008

Ive noticed that nothings being loggedor graphically shown in

performance console under system monitor (W2000 PRO sp4).I uderstand

that i need to activate perfdisk with the diskperf - y command which i

ve done.Ive also reinstalled service pack 4 ,but again no graphs or

values are being logged or shown.Do any folks know what the reason may

be?

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January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

Hello bassbag,

On the right pane press the PLUS sign and you can add the counters you like.

Best regards

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> Ive noticed that nothings being loggedor graphically shown in

> performance console under system monitor (W2000 PRO sp4).I uderstand

> that i need to activate perfdisk with the diskperf - y command which i

> ve done.Ive also reinstalled service pack 4 ,but again no graphs or

> values are being logged or shown.Do any folks know what the reason may

> be?

>

> [i

January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

Have you selected or "added" counters to be monitored? Click on the +

button on top of the graph. Read the help file for more help.

John

bassbag wrote:

> Ive noticed that nothings being loggedor graphically shown in

> performance console under system monitor (W2000 PRO sp4).I uderstand

> that i need to activate perfdisk with the diskperf - y command which i

> ve done.Ive also reinstalled service pack 4 ,but again no graphs or

> values are being logged or shown.Do any folks know what the reason may

> be?

>

> [img

January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

John John wrote:

> Have you selected or "added" counters to be monitored? Click on the

> + button on top of the graph. Read the help file for more help.

>

> John

>

> bassbag wrote:

>

> > Ive noticed that nothings being loggedor graphically shown in

> > performance console under system monitor (W2000 PRO sp4).I uderstand

> > that i need to activate perfdisk with the diskperf - y command

> > which i ve done.Ive also reinstalled service pack 4 ,but again no

> > graphs or values are being logged or shown.Do any folks know what

> > the reason may be?

> >

If i try to add a counter ,the process mmc.exe proceeds to use 100% cpu

which usually results in the performance monitor hanging with a

"white" screen.I then have to use task manager to close the process.

-- me

January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

Meinolf Weber wrote:

> Hello bassbag,

>

> On the right pane press the PLUS sign and you can add the counters

> you like.

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

> > Ive noticed that nothings being loggedor graphically shown in

> > performance console under system monitor (W2000 PRO sp4).I uderstand

> > that i need to activate perfdisk with the diskperf - y command

> > which i ve done.Ive also reinstalled service pack 4 ,but again no

> > graphs or values are being logged or shown.Do any folks know what

> > the reason may be?

> >

This results in the performance monitor gui hanging "white" at 100% cpu

usage,which i then have to terminate with taskmanger.An event viewer

log is also generated with this error.....

.........................

Perflib

The open procedure for service "PerfDisk" in DLL

"C:\WINNT\system32\perfdisk.dll" has taken longer than the established

wait time to complete. There may be a problem with this extensible

counter or the service it is collecting data from or the system may

have been very busy when this call was attempted.

.............................

me

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January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

Hello bassbag,

Please post the complete event viewer error. Which counter do you try to

add to the console?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber

Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers

no rights.

** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

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> Meinolf Weber wrote:

>

>> Hello bassbag,

>>

>> On the right pane press the PLUS sign and you can add the counters

>> you like.

>>

>> Best regards

>>

>> Meinolf Weber

>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

>> confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>> Ive noticed that nothings being loggedor graphically shown in

>>> performance console under system monitor (W2000 PRO sp4).I uderstand

>>> that i need to activate perfdisk with the diskperf - y command

>>> which i ve done.Ive also reinstalled service pack 4 ,but again no

>>> graphs or values are being logged or shown.Do any folks know what

>>> the reason may be?

>>>

> This results in the performance monitor gui hanging "white" at 100%

> cpu

> usage,which i then have to terminate with taskmanger.An event viewer

> log is also generated with this error.....

> ........................

> Perflib

> The open procedure for service "PerfDisk" in DLL

> "C:\WINNT\system32\perfdisk.dll" has taken longer than the established

> wait time to complete. There may be a problem with this extensible

> counter or the service it is collecting data from or the system may

> have been very busy when this call was attempted.

> ............................

> me

January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

Meinolf Weber wrote:

> Hello bassbag,

>

> On the right pane press the PLUS sign and you can add the counters

> you like.

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

> > Ive noticed that nothings being loggedor graphically shown in

> > performance console under system monitor (W2000 PRO sp4).I uderstand

> > that i need to activate perfdisk with the diskperf - y command

> > which i ve done.Ive also reinstalled service pack 4 ,but again no

> > graphs or values are being logged or shown.Do any folks know what

> > the reason may be?

> >

Here are 3 more event logs that seem to pop up ,that i guess may have

something to do with the problem?.These events are created by

winmgmt.exe upon rebooting the pc.These three entries happen every boot.

...................................

WMI ADAP was unable to load the ASP.NET performance library because it

returned invalid data: 0x0

...................................

WMI ADAP was unable to load the ASP.NET_2.0.50727 performance library

because it returned invalid data: 0x0

...................................

WMI ADAP was unable to process the PerfDisk performance library due to

a time violation in the open function

...................................

tia

me

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January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

Meinolf Weber wrote:

> Hello bassbag,

>

> Please post the complete event viewer error. Which counter do you try

> to add to the console?

>

> Best regards

>

> Meinolf Weber

> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and

> confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups

> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

Hello...

Icant actually add any counter.Just clicking the add button results in

teh windows eggtimer popping up.The cpu then hits 100% (mmc.exe) is

responsible for this.The whole performance monitor gui then turns

white... i guess because all the cpu is being used so it cant render?.I

then have to terminate the process.If i leave it it just stays in that

state.

me

January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

You might give this a go.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/266416

Also you can use a gui tool to manage counter exctrlst.exe the tool can be

found in the support\tools directory on your CD-Rom

http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/48edd368-2bde-4647-9fea-1b5f28a23ca91033.mspx?mfr=true

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

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Microsoft MVP [Windows]

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"bassbag" wrote:

> Here are 3 more event logs that seem to pop up ,that i guess may have

> something to do with the problem?.These events are created by

> winmgmt.exe upon rebooting the pc.These three entries happen every boot.

> ..................................

> WMI ADAP was unable to load the ASP.NET performance library because it

> returned invalid data: 0x0

> ..................................

> WMI ADAP was unable to load the ASP.NET_2.0.50727 performance library

> because it returned invalid data: 0x0

> ..................................

> WMI ADAP was unable to process the PerfDisk performance library due to

> a time violation in the open function

> ..................................

> tia

> me

>

> --

>

January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

Tool for Windows 2000

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=7ff99683-b7ec-4da6-92ab-793193604ba4&displaylang=en

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

http://www.microsoft.com/protect

January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

Dave Patrick wrote:

> You might give this a go.

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/266416

>

> Also you can use a gui tool to manage counter exctrlst.exe the tool

> can be found in the support\tools directory on your CD-Rom

> http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/48edd368-2bde-4

> 647-9fea-1b5f28a23ca91033.mspx?mfr=true

I have followed the instructions given at the link you kindly supplied

,including dredging performance libraries and reregistering them

..I also incresed timeout in the perfdisk and perfproc

performance>collect and open entries (from 5000 to 10000).However none

of these has seemed to fix the problem :(

Ive also downloaded the extensible counter list tool and installed

it.This shows that performance counters are enabled.Im not sdure how to

interpret anything else that it shows?.see pic.

[img

]http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7220/20080106155512ph0.th.jpg [/img][

/URL]

me

January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

bassbag wrote:

> Dave Patrick wrote:

>

> > You might give this a go.

> >

> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/266416

> >

> > Also you can use a gui tool to manage counter exctrlst.exe the tool

> > can be found in the support\tools directory on your CD-Rom

> > http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/48edd368-2bde

> > -4 647-9fea-1b5f28a23ca91033.mspx?mfr=true

>

> I have followed the instructions given at the link you kindly supplied

> ,including dredging performance libraries and reregistering them

> .I also incresed timeout in the perfdisk and perfproc

> performance>collect and open entries (from 5000 to 10000).However none

> of these has seemed to fix the problem :(

> Ive also downloaded the extensible counter list tool and installed

> it.This shows that performance counters are enabled.Im not sdure how

> to interpret anything else that it shows?.see pic.

>

> [url=http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20080106155512ph0.jpg][i

> MG

> ]http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7220/20080106155512ph0.th.jpg[/img

> ][ /URL]

>

> me

Heres a clearer link to image...

http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20080106155512ph0.jpg

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January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

I'm guessing the problem is not with the counters but because the system is

busy or overloaded. If you believe this *isn't* the case then these may

help.

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows 2000

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=292175

What an In-Place Windows 2000 Upgrade Changes and What It Does Not Change

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=306952

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your repair install before

connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

Then

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"bassbag" wrote:

> I have followed the instructions given at the link you kindly supplied

> ,including dredging performance libraries and reregistering them

> .I also incresed timeout in the perfdisk and perfproc

> performance>collect and open entries (from 5000 to 10000).However none

> of these has seemed to fix the problem :(

> Ive also downloaded the extensible counter list tool and installed

> it.This shows that performance counters are enabled.Im not sdure how to

> interpret anything else that it shows?.see pic.

>

> [img

January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

Dave Patrick wrote:

> I'm guessing the problem is not with the counters but because the

> system is busy or overloaded. If you believe this isn't the case then

> these may help.

>

> How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows 2000

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=292175

>

> What an In-Place Windows 2000 Upgrade Changes and What It Does Not

> Change http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=306952

>

> Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your repair install

> before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser,

> msblast)

> http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-2

> 41BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE

> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx

> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

>

> Then

>

> Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&fam

> ilyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en

Thank you for all your help.I do have an old system p3 733mhz 392

ram.However i am choosy with my apps and dont use any resource hogging

programes.Indeed my physical ram usually never drops below 160m of

ram.I know its low but i basically use this pc for browsing so dont

need huge amounts of ram.I use a cpu monitor in system tray to see if

its busy ,and after all my apps has loaded it usually sits on around 6%

cpu used.I have reinstalled sp4 but nothings altered.I will look at my

applications next to try and see if theres a problem there.I know that

my firewall (sygate pro) can sometimes take an age to load and its

process smc.exe can use a lot of processor when this happens.Ill

disable all my apps and go from there.If that doesnt work ill go

through all those links and try that ,so i guess i wont reply for a

little while.I hvanet really bothered with the performance monitor

before so dont know whther its always behaved that way on my

machine.Other than that my pc works fine with no problems that im aware

of.The thought of it not working though bugs me (even though i dont use

it i like things to work) and i may reinstall windows at some point

just to see if it ever did work on this system.

Thanks again for all your(and others)invaluable help ,and ill post back

with any results.

me

January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

As a last ditch you might also try from a 'Safe Mode' boot to rule out some

application interference.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"bassbag" wrote:

> Thank you for all your help.I do have an old system p3 733mhz 392

> ram.However i am choosy with my apps and dont use any resource hogging

> programes.Indeed my physical ram usually never drops below 160m of

> ram.I know its low but i basically use this pc for browsing so dont

> need huge amounts of ram.I use a cpu monitor in system tray to see if

> its busy ,and after all my apps has loaded it usually sits on around 6%

> cpu used.I have reinstalled sp4 but nothings altered.I will look at my

> applications next to try and see if theres a problem there.I know that

> my firewall (sygate pro) can sometimes take an age to load and its

> process smc.exe can use a lot of processor when this happens.Ill

> disable all my apps and go from there.If that doesnt work ill go

> through all those links and try that ,so i guess i wont reply for a

> little while.I hvanet really bothered with the performance monitor

> before so dont know whther its always behaved that way on my

> machine.Other than that my pc works fine with no problems that im aware

> of.The thought of it not working though bugs me (even though i dont use

> it i like things to work) and i may reinstall windows at some point

> just to see if it ever did work on this system.

> Thanks again for all your(and others)invaluable help ,and ill post back

> with any results.

> me

January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

Dave Patrick wrote:

> As a last ditch you might also try from a 'Safe Mode' boot to rule

> out some application interference.

I thought id try the safe mode route which you suggested and have had

mixed results ,but a favourable outcome.I had no problem adding

counters to the PM in safe mode and added two as an experiment.When i

tried to save that console though (it asked to overwite the original

perfmon.msc in system 32) it would not do it saying it couldnt overwite

it.I then navigated to the said system 32 folder and found the

perfmon.msc and strangley perfmon.exe.Both files opened performance

monitor.Anyway i renamed both files with a .txt extension.This allowed

me to save the performance monitor with the two counters that i had

just added ,back in to the system 32 folder.I then rebooted and clicked

performance monitor and indeed it is now working.One thing that still

doesnt work (but im not going to bother about it) is that i still

cannot add a counter without the original 100% cpu and freezing

problem.I now know though,that i can add whatever i want into it in

safemode and it will save ok.This is now an acceptable solution for me.

Thank you once again for your expert advice and to this excellent

group.I msure i will be asking more w2k questions in the future.

Thanks again.

me

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January 6, 2008

Re: Administrative tools >Performance console

Glad to hear it helps.

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"bassbag" wrote:

> I thought id try the safe mode route which you suggested and have had

> mixed results ,but a favourable outcome.I had no problem adding

> counters to the PM in safe mode and added two as an experiment.When i

> tried to save that console though (it asked to overwite the original

> perfmon.msc in system 32) it would not do it saying it couldnt overwite

> it.I then navigated to the said system 32 folder and found the

> perfmon.msc and strangley perfmon.exe.Both files opened performance

> monitor.Anyway i renamed both files with a .txt extension.This allowed

> me to save the performance monitor with the two counters that i had

> just added ,back in to the system 32 folder.I then rebooted and clicked

> performance monitor and indeed it is now working.One thing that still

> doesnt work (but im not going to bother about it) is that i still

> cannot add a counter without the original 100% cpu and freezing

> problem.I now know though,that i can add whatever i want into it in

> safemode and it will save ok.This is now an acceptable solution for me.

> Thank you once again for your expert advice and to this excellent

> group.I msure i will be asking more w2k questions in the future.

> Thanks again.

> me

>

> --

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