Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a different harddrive

[Guest chevyavalanche]

Here's the situation:

 

I turned off a registry key that somehow disables my mouse and I can

no longer use the drive as it boots up ok to the msconfig dialog box

(the one that states you modified something) and then I can go no

further. I can't tab or do anything at this point. The mouse is

there on the screen but it doesn't move. I know the exact registry

key that I need to turn back on but I just can't get to it. I've

tried booting into safe mode and this doesn't work as my mouse doesn't

work there and I've tried booting into last known good configuration

and that doesn't work either. I've tried usb and ps2 mouses and

neither move but they show up on the screen.

 

I have another bootable hard drive in my PC so can I boot into it and

then somehow turn on the registry key in my C drive? I do have a

system state backup as well.

 

This is a strange situation which I've never encountered before but

I've gotten to the point to where I need to be careful as I've turned

off the computer several times from the 'on' button (after tried a few

things) and now my desktop goes into error mode.

[Guest John John]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Did you try booting to the Last Known Good Configuration? Could you

confirm your operating system, are you using Windows 2000 or Windows XP.

 

John

 

chevyavalanche wrote:

> Here's the situation:

>

> I turned off a registry key that somehow disables my mouse and I can

> no longer use the drive as it boots up ok to the msconfig dialog box

> (the one that states you modified something) and then I can go no

> further. I can't tab or do anything at this point. The mouse is

> there on the screen but it doesn't move. I know the exact registry

> key that I need to turn back on but I just can't get to it. I've

> tried booting into safe mode and this doesn't work as my mouse doesn't

> work there and I've tried booting into last known good configuration

> and that doesn't work either. I've tried usb and ps2 mouses and

> neither move but they show up on the screen.

>

> I have another bootable hard drive in my PC so can I boot into it and

> then somehow turn on the registry key in my C drive? I do have a

> system state backup as well.

>

> This is a strange situation which I've never encountered before but

> I've gotten to the point to where I need to be careful as I've turned

> off the computer several times from the 'on' button (after tried a few

> things) and now my desktop goes into error mode.

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a different hard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a different hard drive

 

 

"chevyavalanche" <dmdia@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:6cf3d475-f27b-4b65-9c36-37d132699453@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> Here's the situation:

>

> I turned off a registry key that somehow disables my mouse and I can

> no longer use the drive as it boots up ok to the msconfig dialog box

> (the one that states you modified something) and then I can go no

> further. I can't tab or do anything at this point. The mouse is

> there on the screen but it doesn't move. I know the exact registry

> key that I need to turn back on but I just can't get to it. I've

> tried booting into safe mode and this doesn't work as my mouse doesn't

> work there and I've tried booting into last known good configuration

> and that doesn't work either. I've tried usb and ps2 mouses and

> neither move but they show up on the screen.

>

> I have another bootable hard drive in my PC so can I boot into it and

> then somehow turn on the registry key in my C drive? I do have a

> system state backup as well.

>

> This is a strange situation which I've never encountered before but

> I've gotten to the point to where I need to be careful as I've turned

> off the computer several times from the 'on' button (after tried a few

> things) and now my desktop goes into error mode.

 

Boot into Windows with your other bootable disk, then use

regedt32.exe to open the System registry file that has the

problem. You can now reverse the change you made.

[Guest John John]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Sorry, I see you already tried that. You can edit the offline registry

with Regedt32 (Winows 2000), see here for easy to follow instructions:

 

http://www.rwin.ch/xp-live/regedit.htm

 

John

 

John John wrote:

> Did you try booting to the Last Known Good Configuration? Could you

> confirm your operating system, are you using Windows 2000 or Windows XP.

>

> John

>

> chevyavalanche wrote:

>

>> Here's the situation:

>>

>> I turned off a registry key that somehow disables my mouse and I can

>> no longer use the drive as it boots up ok to the msconfig dialog box

>> (the one that states you modified something) and then I can go no

>> further. I can't tab or do anything at this point. The mouse is

>> there on the screen but it doesn't move. I know the exact registry

>> key that I need to turn back on but I just can't get to it. I've

>> tried booting into safe mode and this doesn't work as my mouse doesn't

>> work there and I've tried booting into last known good configuration

>> and that doesn't work either. I've tried usb and ps2 mouses and

>> neither move but they show up on the screen.

>>

>> I have another bootable hard drive in my PC so can I boot into it and

>> then somehow turn on the registry key in my C drive? I do have a

>> system state backup as well.

>>

>> This is a strange situation which I've never encountered before but

>> I've gotten to the point to where I need to be careful as I've turned

>> off the computer several times from the 'on' button (after tried a few

>> things) and now my desktop goes into error mode.

>

>

[Guest chevyavalanche]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

On Jan 30, 7:39 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> Sorry, I see you already tried that. You can edit the offline registry

> with Regedt32 (Winows 2000), see here for easy to follow instructions:

>

> http://www.rwin.ch/xp-live/regedit.htm

>

> John

>

> John John wrote:

> > Did you try booting to the Last Known Good Configuration? Could you

> > confirm your operating system, are you using Windows 2000 or Windows XP.

>

> > John

>

> > chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >> Here's the situation:

>

> >> I turned off a registry key that somehow disables my mouse and I can

> >> no longer use the drive as it boots up ok to the msconfig dialog box

> >> (the one that states you modified something) and then I can go no

> >> further. I can't tab or do anything at this point. The mouse is

> >> there on the screen but it doesn't move. I know the exact registry

> >> key that I need to turn back on but I just can't get to it. I've

> >> tried booting into safe mode and this doesn't work as my mouse doesn't

> >> work there and I've tried booting into last known good configuration

> >> and that doesn't work either. I've tried usb and ps2 mouses and

> >> neither move but they show up on the screen.

>

> >> I have another bootable hard drive in my PC so can I boot into it and

> >> then somehow turn on the registry key in my C drive? I do have a

> >> system state backup as well.

>

> >> This is a strange situation which I've never encountered before but

> >> I've gotten to the point to where I need to be careful as I've turned

> >> off the computer several times from the 'on' button (after tried a few

> >> things) and now my desktop goes into error mode.

 

Thanks for the quick replies! I've never done this before so here are

a couple of questions:

1) I will boot into my F drive. Then I want to access my C registry

so in looking at the instructions (thank you), how do you know you are

actually in the C registry?

2) Once I'm in the C registry, how do I modify or turn 'on' the

service? In Msconfig you either put an 'x' in the box or not but in

the registry, how do you do this?

[Guest John John]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

chevyavalanche wrote:

> On Jan 30, 7:39 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

>>Sorry, I see you already tried that. You can edit the offline registry

>>with Regedt32 (Winows 2000), see here for easy to follow instructions:

>>

>>http://www.rwin.ch/xp-live/regedit.htm

>>

>>John

>>

>>John John wrote:

>>

>>>Did you try booting to the Last Known Good Configuration? Could you

>>>confirm your operating system, are you using Windows 2000 or Windows XP.

>>

>>>John

>>

>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>Here's the situation:

>>

>>>>I turned off a registry key that somehow disables my mouse and I can

>>>>no longer use the drive as it boots up ok to the msconfig dialog box

>>>>(the one that states you modified something) and then I can go no

>>>>further. I can't tab or do anything at this point. The mouse is

>>>>there on the screen but it doesn't move. I know the exact registry

>>>>key that I need to turn back on but I just can't get to it. I've

>>>>tried booting into safe mode and this doesn't work as my mouse doesn't

>>>>work there and I've tried booting into last known good configuration

>>>>and that doesn't work either. I've tried usb and ps2 mouses and

>>>>neither move but they show up on the screen.

>>

>>>>I have another bootable hard drive in my PC so can I boot into it and

>>>>then somehow turn on the registry key in my C drive? I do have a

>>>>system state backup as well.

>>

>>>>This is a strange situation which I've never encountered before but

>>>>I've gotten to the point to where I need to be careful as I've turned

>>>>off the computer several times from the 'on' button (after tried a few

>>>>things) and now my desktop goes into error mode.

>

>

> Thanks for the quick replies! I've never done this before so here are

> a couple of questions:

> 1) I will boot into my F drive. Then I want to access my C registry

> so in looking at the instructions (thank you), how do you know you are

> actually in the C registry?

 

You should know just by looking at the files on the disk, you know your

user files and so on, you should know by looking for your files which

disk contains the broken installation. You can also run the SET command

at a Command Prompt and the SystemRoot= or the windir= will tell you

which installation is currently booted and running.

> 2) Once I'm in the C registry, how do I modify or turn 'on' the

> service? In Msconfig you either put an 'x' in the box or not but in

> the registry, how do you do this?

 

The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

 

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

 

From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

 

John

[Guest chevyavalanche]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

On Jan 30, 8:21 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> chevyavalanche wrote:

> > On Jan 30, 7:39 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>Sorry, I see you already tried that. You can edit the offline registry

> >>with Regedt32 (Winows 2000), see here for easy to follow instructions:

>

> >>http://www.rwin.ch/xp-live/regedit.htm

>

> >>John

>

> >>John John wrote:

>

> >>>Did you try booting to the Last Known Good Configuration? Could you

> >>>confirm your operating system, are you using Windows 2000 or Windows XP.

>

> >>>John

>

> >>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>Here's the situation:

>

> >>>>I turned off a registry key that somehow disables my mouse and I can

> >>>>no longer use the drive as it boots up ok to the msconfig dialog box

> >>>>(the one that states you modified something) and then I can go no

> >>>>further. I can't tab or do anything at this point. The mouse is

> >>>>there on the screen but it doesn't move. I know the exact registry

> >>>>key that I need to turn back on but I just can't get to it. I've

> >>>>tried booting into safe mode and this doesn't work as my mouse doesn't

> >>>>work there and I've tried booting into last known good configuration

> >>>>and that doesn't work either. I've tried usb and ps2 mouses and

> >>>>neither move but they show up on the screen.

>

> >>>>I have another bootable hard drive in my PC so can I boot into it and

> >>>>then somehow turn on the registry key in my C drive? I do have a

> >>>>system state backup as well.

>

> >>>>This is a strange situation which I've never encountered before but

> >>>>I've gotten to the point to where I need to be careful as I've turned

> >>>>off the computer several times from the 'on' button (after tried a few

> >>>>things) and now my desktop goes into error mode.

>

> > Thanks for the quick replies! I've never done this before so here are

> > a couple of questions:

> > 1) I will boot into my F drive. Then I want to access my C registry

> > so in looking at the instructions (thank you), how do you know you are

> > actually in the C registry?

>

> You should know just by looking at the files on the disk, you know your

> user files and so on, you should know by looking for your files which

> disk contains the broken installation. You can also run the SET command

> at a Command Prompt and the SystemRoot= or the windir= will tell you

> which installation is currently booted and running.

>

> > 2) Once I'm in the C registry, how do I modify or turn 'on' the

> > service? In Msconfig you either put an 'x' in the box or not but in

> > the registry, how do you do this?

>

> The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>

> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>

> From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>

> John

 

John,

 

Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

back on:

HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

 

Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

this put it back into the C drive registry? Also, when the entry is

created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'? Again, thanks for

the help!

[Guest John John]

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Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

John John wrote:

>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>>

>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>>

>> From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>>

>>John

 

chevyavalanche wrote:

> Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

> rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

> back on:

> HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

 

That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

information?

 

You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

the contents here?

 

There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

contains numbered Control Sets such as:

 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

\SYSTEM

\ControlSet001

\ControlSet002

\ControlSet003

 

You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

options are:

 

-Current

-Default

-Failed

-LastKnownGood

 

Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

the Control Set that you must edit.

 

> Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

> this put it back into the C drive registry?

 

Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

unloaded.

> Also, when the entry is

> created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

> other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

 

No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

 

Again, thanks for

> the help!

 

You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

installation, right?

 

John

[Guest chevyavalanche]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> John John wrote:

> >>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>

> >>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>

> >> From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>

> >>John

> chevyavalanche wrote:

> > Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

> > rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

> > back on:

> > HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>

> That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

> information?

>

> You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

> the contents here?

>

> There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

> Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

> load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

> from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

> a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

> contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>

> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

> \SYSTEM

> \ControlSet001

> \ControlSet002

> \ControlSet003

>

> You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

> hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

> loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

> options are:

>

> -Current

> -Default

> -Failed

> -LastKnownGood

>

> Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

> Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

> edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

> ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

> the Control Set that you must edit.

>

> > Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

> > this put it back into the C drive registry?

>

> Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

> unloaded.

>

> > Also, when the entry is

> > created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

> > other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>

> No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>

> Again, thanks for

>

> > the help!

>

> You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

> installation, right?

>

> John

 

John,

 

Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

 

The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

last known good config does not work.

 

Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

resolved. I will keep you posted.

[Guest John John]

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Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

chevyavalanche wrote:

> On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

>>John John wrote:

>>

>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>>

>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>>

>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>>

>>>>John

>>

>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

>>>back on:

>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>>

>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

>>information?

>>

>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

>>the contents here?

>>

>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>>

>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

>> \SYSTEM

>> \ControlSet001

>> \ControlSet002

>> \ControlSet003

>>

>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

>>options are:

>>

>> -Current

>> -Default

>> -Failed

>> -LastKnownGood

>>

>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>>

>>

>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>>

>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

>>unloaded.

>>

>>

>>>Also, when the entry is

>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>>

>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>>

>> Again, thanks for

>>

>>

>>>the help!

>>

>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

>>installation, right?

>>

>>John

>

>

> John,

>

> Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>

> The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

> services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

> thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

> program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

> as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

> won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

> will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

> last known good config does not work.

>

> Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

> place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

> resolved. I will keep you posted.

 

Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

 

John

[Guest chevyavalanche]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> chevyavalanche wrote:

> > On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>John John wrote:

>

> >>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>

> >>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>

> >>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>

> >>>>John

>

> >>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

> >>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

> >>>back on:

> >>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>

> >>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

> >>information?

>

> >>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

> >>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

> >>the contents here?

>

> >>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

> >>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

> >>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

> >>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

> >>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

> >>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>

> >>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

> >> \SYSTEM

> >> \ControlSet001

> >> \ControlSet002

> >> \ControlSet003

>

> >>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

> >>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

> >>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

> >>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

> >>options are:

>

> >> -Current

> >> -Default

> >> -Failed

> >> -LastKnownGood

>

> >>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

> >>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

> >>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

> >>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

> >>the Control Set that you must edit.

>

> >>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

> >>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>

> >>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

> >>unloaded.

>

> >>>Also, when the entry is

> >>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

> >>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>

> >>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>

> >> Again, thanks for

>

> >>>the help!

>

> >>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

> >>installation, right?

>

> >>John

>

> > John,

>

> > Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>

> > The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

> > services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

> > thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

> > program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

> > as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

> > won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

> > will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

> > last known good config does not work.

>

> > Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

> > place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

> > resolved. I will keep you posted.

>

> Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

> Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

> If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

> by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

> WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

> recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>

> John

 

Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

[Guest John John]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

chevyavalanche wrote:

> On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>John John wrote:

>>

>>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>>

>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>>

>>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>>

>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

>>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

>>>>>back on:

>>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>>

>>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

>>>>information?

>>

>>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

>>>>the contents here?

>>

>>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

>>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

>>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>>>

>>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>>>

>>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

>>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>>

>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

>>>> \SYSTEM

>>>> \ControlSet001

>>>> \ControlSet002

>>>> \ControlSet003

>>

>>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

>>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

>>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

>>>>options are:

>>

>>>> -Current

>>>> -Default

>>>> -Failed

>>>> -LastKnownGood

>>

>>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

>>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

>>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

>>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

>>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>>

>>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

>>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>>

>>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

>>>>unloaded.

>>

>>>>>Also, when the entry is

>>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

>>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>>

>>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>>

>>>> Again, thanks for

>>

>>>>>the help!

>>

>>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

>>>>installation, right?

>>

>>>>John

>>

>>>John,

>>

>>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>>

>>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

>>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

>>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

>>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

>>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

>>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

>>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

>>>last known good config does not work.

>>

>>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

>>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

>>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>>

>>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

>>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

>> If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

>>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

>>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

>>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>>

>>John

>

>

> Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

> same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

 

It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

able to extract the files from the backup.

 

John

[Guest chevyavalanche]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

On Jan 30, 2:49 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> chevyavalanche wrote:

> > On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>John John wrote:

>

> >>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>

> >>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>

> >>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>

> >>>>>>John

>

> >>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

> >>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

> >>>>>back on:

> >>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>

> >>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

> >>>>information?

>

> >>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

> >>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

> >>>>the contents here?

>

> >>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

> >>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

> >>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>

> >>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>

> >>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

> >>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>

> >>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

> >>>> \SYSTEM

> >>>> \ControlSet001

> >>>> \ControlSet002

> >>>> \ControlSet003

>

> >>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

> >>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

> >>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

> >>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

> >>>>options are:

>

> >>>> -Current

> >>>> -Default

> >>>> -Failed

> >>>> -LastKnownGood

>

> >>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

> >>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

> >>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

> >>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

> >>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>

> >>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

> >>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>

> >>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

> >>>>unloaded.

>

> >>>>>Also, when the entry is

> >>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

> >>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>

> >>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>

> >>>> Again, thanks for

>

> >>>>>the help!

>

> >>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

> >>>>installation, right?

>

> >>>>John

>

> >>>John,

>

> >>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>

> >>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

> >>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

> >>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

> >>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

> >>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

> >>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

> >>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

> >>>last known good config does not work.

>

> >>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

> >>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

> >>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>

> >>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

> >>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

> >> If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

> >>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

> >>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

> >>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>

> >>John

>

> > Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

> > same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

>

> It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

> able to extract the files from the backup.

>

> John

 

I used the W2K Backup wizard and backed up the Sys state.

[Guest John John]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

chevyavalanche wrote:

> On Jan 30, 2:49 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>>John John wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>>

>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>>

>>>>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>>

>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

>>>>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

>>>>>>>back on:

>>>>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>>

>>>>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

>>>>>>information?

>>

>>>>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

>>>>>>the contents here?

>>

>>>>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

>>>>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

>>>>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>>

>>>>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>>

>>>>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

>>>>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>>

>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

>>>>>> \SYSTEM

>>>>>> \ControlSet001

>>>>>> \ControlSet002

>>>>>> \ControlSet003

>>

>>>>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

>>>>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

>>>>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

>>>>>>options are:

>>

>>>>>> -Current

>>>>>> -Default

>>>>>> -Failed

>>>>>> -LastKnownGood

>>

>>>>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

>>>>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

>>>>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

>>>>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

>>>>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>>

>>>>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

>>>>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>>

>>>>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

>>>>>>unloaded.

>>

>>>>>>>Also, when the entry is

>>>>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

>>>>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>>

>>>>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>>

>>>>>> Again, thanks for

>>

>>>>>>>the help!

>>

>>>>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

>>>>>>installation, right?

>>

>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>John,

>>

>>>>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>>

>>>>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

>>>>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

>>>>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

>>>>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

>>>>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

>>>>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

>>>>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

>>>>>last known good config does not work.

>>

>>>>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

>>>>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

>>>>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>>

>>>>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

>>>>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

>>>> If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

>>>>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

>>>>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

>>>>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>>

>>>>John

>>

>>>Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

>>>same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

>>

>>It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

>>able to extract the files from the backup.

>>

>>John

>

>

> I used the W2K Backup wizard and backed up the Sys state.

 

Along with the .bkf backup file (that you placed in a location of your

choosing) NTBackup should have also created backup copies of the

registry hives and placed them in the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder. Take

a look in there and look at the timestamp on the hives. You can copy

them to the System32\config folder to replace the broken hives.

 

John

[Guest chevyavalanche]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

On Jan 30, 3:43 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> chevyavalanche wrote:

> > On Jan 30, 2:49 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>>John John wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>

> >>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>

> >>>>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>

> >>>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

> >>>>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

> >>>>>>>back on:

> >>>>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>

> >>>>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

> >>>>>>information?

>

> >>>>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

> >>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

> >>>>>>the contents here?

>

> >>>>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

> >>>>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

> >>>>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>

> >>>>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>

> >>>>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

> >>>>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>

> >>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

> >>>>>> \SYSTEM

> >>>>>> \ControlSet001

> >>>>>> \ControlSet002

> >>>>>> \ControlSet003

>

> >>>>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

> >>>>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

> >>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

> >>>>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

> >>>>>>options are:

>

> >>>>>> -Current

> >>>>>> -Default

> >>>>>> -Failed

> >>>>>> -LastKnownGood

>

> >>>>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

> >>>>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

> >>>>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

> >>>>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

> >>>>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>

> >>>>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

> >>>>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>

> >>>>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

> >>>>>>unloaded.

>

> >>>>>>>Also, when the entry is

> >>>>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

> >>>>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>

> >>>>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>

> >>>>>> Again, thanks for

>

> >>>>>>>the help!

>

> >>>>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

> >>>>>>installation, right?

>

> >>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>John,

>

> >>>>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>

> >>>>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

> >>>>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

> >>>>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

> >>>>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

> >>>>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

> >>>>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

> >>>>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

> >>>>>last known good config does not work.

>

> >>>>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

> >>>>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

> >>>>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>

> >>>>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

> >>>>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

> >>>> If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

> >>>>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

> >>>>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

> >>>>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>

> >>>>John

>

> >>>Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

> >>>same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

>

> >>It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

> >>able to extract the files from the backup.

>

> >>John

>

> > I used the W2K Backup wizard and backed up the Sys state.

>

> Along with the .bkf backup file (that you placed in a location of your

> choosing) NTBackup should have also created backup copies of the

> registry hives and placed them in the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder. Take

> a look in there and look at the timestamp on the hives. You can copy

> them to the System32\config folder to replace the broken hives.

>

> John

 

Is this an automatic thing that NTbackup does? My PC is at repair

shop now so I can't verify this.

[Guest chevyavalanche]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

On Jan 30, 4:23 pm, chevyavalanche <chevyavalanche2...@yahoo.com>

wrote:

> On Jan 30, 3:43 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

>

>

> > chevyavalanche wrote:

> > > On Jan 30, 2:49 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> > >>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> > >>>On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> > >>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> > >>>>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> > >>>>>>John John wrote:

>

> > >>>>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>

> > >>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>

> > >>>>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>

> > >>>>>>>>John

>

> > >>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> > >>>>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

> > >>>>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

> > >>>>>>>back on:

> > >>>>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>

> > >>>>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

> > >>>>>>information?

>

> > >>>>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

> > >>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

> > >>>>>>the contents here?

>

> > >>>>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

> > >>>>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

> > >>>>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>

> > >>>>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>

> > >>>>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

> > >>>>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>

> > >>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

> > >>>>>> \SYSTEM

> > >>>>>> \ControlSet001

> > >>>>>> \ControlSet002

> > >>>>>> \ControlSet003

>

> > >>>>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

> > >>>>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

> > >>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

> > >>>>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

> > >>>>>>options are:

>

> > >>>>>> -Current

> > >>>>>> -Default

> > >>>>>> -Failed

> > >>>>>> -LastKnownGood

>

> > >>>>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

> > >>>>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

> > >>>>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

> > >>>>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

> > >>>>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>

> > >>>>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

> > >>>>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>

> > >>>>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

> > >>>>>>unloaded.

>

> > >>>>>>>Also, when the entry is

> > >>>>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

> > >>>>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>

> > >>>>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>

> > >>>>>> Again, thanks for

>

> > >>>>>>>the help!

>

> > >>>>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

> > >>>>>>installation, right?

>

> > >>>>>>John

>

> > >>>>>John,

>

> > >>>>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>

> > >>>>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

> > >>>>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

> > >>>>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

> > >>>>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

> > >>>>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

> > >>>>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

> > >>>>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

> > >>>>>last known good config does not work.

>

> > >>>>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

> > >>>>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

> > >>>>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>

> > >>>>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

> > >>>>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

> > >>>> If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

> > >>>>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

> > >>>>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

> > >>>>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>

> > >>>>John

>

> > >>>Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

> > >>>same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

>

> > >>It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

> > >>able to extract the files from the backup.

>

> > >>John

>

> > > I used the W2K Backup wizard and backed up the Sys state.

>

> > Along with the .bkf backup file (that you placed in a location of your

> > choosing) NTBackup should have also created backup copies of the

> > registry hives and placed them in the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder. Take

> > a look in there and look at the timestamp on the hives. You can copy

> > them to the System32\config folder to replace the broken hives.

>

> > John

>

> Is this an automatic thing that NTbackup does? My PC is at repair

> shop now so I can't verify this.

 

Update: PC repair shop says that the 'load hive' command stays grayed

out and does not work. Is there a trick to it? He followed the

directions above that you provided the address to and I printed it out

for him.

[Guest John John]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

chevyavalanche wrote:

> On Jan 30, 3:43 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>On Jan 30, 2:49 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>John John wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>>

>>>>>>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

>>>>>>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

>>>>>>>>>back on:

>>>>>>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>>

>>>>>>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

>>>>>>>>information?

>>

>>>>>>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

>>>>>>>>the contents here?

>>

>>>>>>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

>>>>>>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

>>>>>>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>>

>>>>>>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>>

>>>>>>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

>>>>>>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>>

>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

>>>>>>>> \SYSTEM

>>>>>>>> \ControlSet001

>>>>>>>> \ControlSet002

>>>>>>>> \ControlSet003

>>

>>>>>>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

>>>>>>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

>>>>>>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

>>>>>>>>options are:

>>

>>>>>>>> -Current

>>>>>>>> -Default

>>>>>>>> -Failed

>>>>>>>> -LastKnownGood

>>

>>>>>>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

>>>>>>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

>>>>>>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

>>>>>>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

>>>>>>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>>

>>>>>>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

>>>>>>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>>

>>>>>>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

>>>>>>>>unloaded.

>>

>>>>>>>>>Also, when the entry is

>>>>>>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

>>>>>>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>>

>>>>>>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>>

>>>>>>>>Again, thanks for

>>

>>>>>>>>>the help!

>>

>>>>>>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

>>>>>>>>installation, right?

>>

>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>>John,

>>

>>>>>>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>>

>>>>>>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

>>>>>>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

>>>>>>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

>>>>>>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

>>>>>>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

>>>>>>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

>>>>>>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

>>>>>>>last known good config does not work.

>>

>>>>>>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

>>>>>>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

>>>>>>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>>

>>>>>>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

>>>>>>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

>>>>>>If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

>>>>>>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

>>>>>>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

>>>>>>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>>

>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

>>>>>same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

>>

>>>>It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

>>>>able to extract the files from the backup.

>>

>>>>John

>>

>>>I used the W2K Backup wizard and backed up the Sys state.

>>

>>Along with the .bkf backup file (that you placed in a location of your

>>choosing) NTBackup should have also created backup copies of the

>>registry hives and placed them in the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder. Take

>>a look in there and look at the timestamp on the hives. You can copy

>>them to the System32\config folder to replace the broken hives.

>>

>>John

>

>

> Is this an automatic thing that NTbackup does? My PC is at repair

> shop now so I can't verify this.

 

Yes, when using NTBackup to back up the System State data a copy of the

registry files is saved in the \repair\regback folder.

 

John

[Guest John John]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

chevyavalanche wrote:

> On Jan 30, 4:23 pm, chevyavalanche <chevyavalanche2...@yahoo.com>

> wrote:

>

>>On Jan 30, 3:43 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>>

>>>>On Jan 30, 2:49 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>John John wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

>>>>>>>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

>>>>>>>>>>back on:

>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>>

>>>>>>>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

>>>>>>>>>information?

>>

>>>>>>>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

>>>>>>>>>the contents here?

>>

>>>>>>>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

>>>>>>>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

>>>>>>>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>>

>>>>>>>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>>

>>>>>>>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

>>>>>>>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>>

>>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

>>>>>>>>> \SYSTEM

>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet001

>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet002

>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet003

>>

>>>>>>>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

>>>>>>>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

>>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

>>>>>>>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

>>>>>>>>>options are:

>>

>>>>>>>>> -Current

>>>>>>>>> -Default

>>>>>>>>> -Failed

>>>>>>>>> -LastKnownGood

>>

>>>>>>>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

>>>>>>>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

>>>>>>>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

>>>>>>>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

>>>>>>>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

>>>>>>>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>>

>>>>>>>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

>>>>>>>>>unloaded.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>Also, when the entry is

>>>>>>>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

>>>>>>>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>>

>>>>>>>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>>

>>>>>>>>>Again, thanks for

>>

>>>>>>>>>>the help!

>>

>>>>>>>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

>>>>>>>>>installation, right?

>>

>>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>>>John,

>>

>>>>>>>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>>

>>>>>>>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

>>>>>>>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

>>>>>>>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

>>>>>>>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

>>>>>>>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

>>>>>>>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

>>>>>>>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

>>>>>>>>last known good config does not work.

>>

>>>>>>>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

>>>>>>>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

>>>>>>>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>>

>>>>>>>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

>>>>>>>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

>>>>>>>If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

>>>>>>>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

>>>>>>>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

>>>>>>>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>>

>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

>>>>>>same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

>>

>>>>>It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

>>>>>able to extract the files from the backup.

>>

>>>>>John

>>

>>>>I used the W2K Backup wizard and backed up the Sys state.

>>

>>>Along with the .bkf backup file (that you placed in a location of your

>>>choosing) NTBackup should have also created backup copies of the

>>>registry hives and placed them in the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder. Take

>>>a look in there and look at the timestamp on the hives. You can copy

>>>them to the System32\config folder to replace the broken hives.

>>

>>>John

>>

>>Is this an automatic thing that NTbackup does? My PC is at repair

>>shop now so I can't verify this.

>

>

> Update: PC repair shop says that the 'load hive' command stays grayed

> out and does not work. Is there a trick to it? He followed the

> directions above that you provided the address to and I printed it out

> for him.

 

With Windows 2000 it cannot be done with Regedit, he *must* use

Regedt32. He must also bring forth either the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or the

HKEY_USERS pane and he must click on and highlight the root key

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_USERS, once the root key is highlighted he

will be able to load the hive of the broken installation. If he is

doing this with XP he can do it with Regedit but he must still highlight

one of the root keys mentioned above, he will only be able to load the

hive when he highlights one of the keys.

 

Also, see my other post, when you did a backup of the System State data

a copy of your registry hives was placed in the WINNT\repair\RegBack

folder, he can use these copies to try to bring the machine back up.

 

John

[Guest chevyavalanche]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

On Jan 30, 5:18 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> chevyavalanche wrote:

> > On Jan 30, 4:23 pm, chevyavalanche <chevyavalanche2...@yahoo.com>

> > wrote:

>

> >>On Jan 30, 3:43 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>On Jan 30, 2:49 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>John John wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

> >>>>>>>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

> >>>>>>>>>>back on:

> >>>>>>>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>

> >>>>>>>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

> >>>>>>>>>information?

>

> >>>>>>>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

> >>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

> >>>>>>>>>the contents here?

>

> >>>>>>>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

> >>>>>>>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

> >>>>>>>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>

> >>>>>>>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>

> >>>>>>>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

> >>>>>>>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>

> >>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

> >>>>>>>>> \SYSTEM

> >>>>>>>>> \ControlSet001

> >>>>>>>>> \ControlSet002

> >>>>>>>>> \ControlSet003

>

> >>>>>>>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

> >>>>>>>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

> >>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

> >>>>>>>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

> >>>>>>>>>options are:

>

> >>>>>>>>> -Current

> >>>>>>>>> -Default

> >>>>>>>>> -Failed

> >>>>>>>>> -LastKnownGood

>

> >>>>>>>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

> >>>>>>>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

> >>>>>>>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

> >>>>>>>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

> >>>>>>>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

> >>>>>>>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>

> >>>>>>>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

> >>>>>>>>>unloaded.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>Also, when the entry is

> >>>>>>>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

> >>>>>>>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>

> >>>>>>>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>

> >>>>>>>>>Again, thanks for

>

> >>>>>>>>>>the help!

>

> >>>>>>>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

> >>>>>>>>>installation, right?

>

> >>>>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>>>John,

>

> >>>>>>>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>

> >>>>>>>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

> >>>>>>>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

> >>>>>>>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

> >>>>>>>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

> >>>>>>>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

> >>>>>>>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

> >>>>>>>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

> >>>>>>>>last known good config does not work.

>

> >>>>>>>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

> >>>>>>>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

> >>>>>>>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>

> >>>>>>>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

> >>>>>>>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

> >>>>>>>If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

> >>>>>>>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

> >>>>>>>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

> >>>>>>>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>

> >>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

> >>>>>>same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

>

> >>>>>It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

> >>>>>able to extract the files from the backup.

>

> >>>>>John

>

> >>>>I used the W2K Backup wizard and backed up the Sys state.

>

> >>>Along with the .bkf backup file (that you placed in a location of your

> >>>choosing) NTBackup should have also created backup copies of the

> >>>registry hives and placed them in the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder. Take

> >>>a look in there and look at the timestamp on the hives. You can copy

> >>>them to the System32\config folder to replace the broken hives.

>

> >>>John

>

> >>Is this an automatic thing that NTbackup does? My PC is at repair

> >>shop now so I can't verify this.

>

> > Update: PC repair shop says that the 'load hive' command stays grayed

> > out and does not work. Is there a trick to it? He followed the

> > directions above that you provided the address to and I printed it out

> > for him.

>

> With Windows 2000 it cannot be done with Regedit, he *must* use

> Regedt32. He must also bring forth either the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or the

> HKEY_USERS pane and he must click on and highlight the root key

> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_USERS, once the root key is highlighted he

> will be able to load the hive of the broken installation. If he is

> doing this with XP he can do it with Regedit but he must still highlight

> one of the root keys mentioned above, he will only be able to load the

> hive when he highlights one of the keys.

>

> Also, see my other post, when you did a backup of the System State data

> a copy of your registry hives was placed in the WINNT\repair\RegBack

> folder, he can use these copies to try to bring the machine back up.

>

> John

 

Can he just 'drag and drop' the regback into the C drive location? Is

it that simple or do you have to import or anything like that. Thanks

for being patient with me as I have never dealt with a situation like

this.

[Guest John John]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

chevyavalanche wrote:

> On Jan 30, 5:18 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>On Jan 30, 4:23 pm, chevyavalanche <chevyavalanche2...@yahoo.com>

>>>wrote:

>>

>>>>On Jan 30, 3:43 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>On Jan 30, 2:49 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>John John wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

>>>>>>>>>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

>>>>>>>>>>>>back on:

>>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

>>>>>>>>>>>information?

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

>>>>>>>>>>>the contents here?

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

>>>>>>>>>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

>>>>>>>>>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

>>>>>>>>>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

>>>>>>>>>>> \SYSTEM

>>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet001

>>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet002

>>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet003

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

>>>>>>>>>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

>>>>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

>>>>>>>>>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

>>>>>>>>>>>options are:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>> -Current

>>>>>>>>>>> -Default

>>>>>>>>>>> -Failed

>>>>>>>>>>> -LastKnownGood

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

>>>>>>>>>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

>>>>>>>>>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

>>>>>>>>>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

>>>>>>>>>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

>>>>>>>>>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

>>>>>>>>>>>unloaded.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>Also, when the entry is

>>>>>>>>>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

>>>>>>>>>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>Again, thanks for

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>the help!

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

>>>>>>>>>>>installation, right?

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>>>>>John,

>>

>>>>>>>>>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

>>>>>>>>>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

>>>>>>>>>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

>>>>>>>>>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

>>>>>>>>>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

>>>>>>>>>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

>>>>>>>>>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

>>>>>>>>>>last known good config does not work.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

>>>>>>>>>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

>>>>>>>>>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>>

>>>>>>>>>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

>>>>>>>>>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

>>>>>>>>>If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

>>>>>>>>>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

>>>>>>>>>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

>>>>>>>>>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>>

>>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>>>Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

>>>>>>>>same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

>>

>>>>>>>It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

>>>>>>>able to extract the files from the backup.

>>

>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>I used the W2K Backup wizard and backed up the Sys state.

>>

>>>>>Along with the .bkf backup file (that you placed in a location of your

>>>>>choosing) NTBackup should have also created backup copies of the

>>>>>registry hives and placed them in the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder. Take

>>>>>a look in there and look at the timestamp on the hives. You can copy

>>>>>them to the System32\config folder to replace the broken hives.

>>

>>>>>John

>>

>>>>Is this an automatic thing that NTbackup does? My PC is at repair

>>>>shop now so I can't verify this.

>>

>>>Update: PC repair shop says that the 'load hive' command stays grayed

>>>out and does not work. Is there a trick to it? He followed the

>>>directions above that you provided the address to and I printed it out

>>>for him.

>>

>>With Windows 2000 it cannot be done with Regedit, he *must* use

>>Regedt32. He must also bring forth either the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or the

>>HKEY_USERS pane and he must click on and highlight the root key

>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_USERS, once the root key is highlighted he

>>will be able to load the hive of the broken installation. If he is

>>doing this with XP he can do it with Regedit but he must still highlight

>>one of the root keys mentioned above, he will only be able to load the

>>hive when he highlights one of the keys.

>>

>>Also, see my other post, when you did a backup of the System State data

>>a copy of your registry hives was placed in the WINNT\repair\RegBack

>>folder, he can use these copies to try to bring the machine back up.

>>

>>John

>

>

> Can he just 'drag and drop' the regback into the C drive location? Is

> it that simple or do you have to import or anything like that. Thanks

> for being patient with me as I have never dealt with a situation like

> this.

 

He can just rename the files in question with a .old extension, or to

reduce clutter in the config folder he can move them out to a temporary

location for the time being, if the repair is succesful they can then be

discarded.

 

Move the following hives out of the \WINNT\System32\config folder:

 

default

SAM

SECURITY

software

system

 

Then copy the same respective backup hives from the

\WINNT\repair\RegBack to the config folder and see if the machine can be

booted.

 

John

[Guest chevyavalanche]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

On Jan 30, 6:00 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> chevyavalanche wrote:

> > On Jan 30, 5:18 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>On Jan 30, 4:23 pm, chevyavalanche <chevyavalanche2...@yahoo.com>

> >>>wrote:

>

> >>>>On Jan 30, 3:43 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>On Jan 30, 2:49 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>John John wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

> >>>>>>>>>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

> >>>>>>>>>>>>back on:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

> >>>>>>>>>>>information?

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

> >>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

> >>>>>>>>>>>the contents here?

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

> >>>>>>>>>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

> >>>>>>>>>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

> >>>>>>>>>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

> >>>>>>>>>>> \SYSTEM

> >>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet001

> >>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet002

> >>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet003

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

> >>>>>>>>>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

> >>>>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

> >>>>>>>>>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

> >>>>>>>>>>>options are:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>> -Current

> >>>>>>>>>>> -Default

> >>>>>>>>>>> -Failed

> >>>>>>>>>>> -LastKnownGood

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

> >>>>>>>>>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

> >>>>>>>>>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

> >>>>>>>>>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

> >>>>>>>>>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

> >>>>>>>>>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

> >>>>>>>>>>>unloaded.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>Also, when the entry is

> >>>>>>>>>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

> >>>>>>>>>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>Again, thanks for

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>the help!

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

> >>>>>>>>>>>installation, right?

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>>>>>John,

>

> >>>>>>>>>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

> >>>>>>>>>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

> >>>>>>>>>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

> >>>>>>>>>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

> >>>>>>>>>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

> >>>>>>>>>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

> >>>>>>>>>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

> >>>>>>>>>>last known good config does not work.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

> >>>>>>>>>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

> >>>>>>>>>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>

> >>>>>>>>>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

> >>>>>>>>>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

> >>>>>>>>>If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

> >>>>>>>>>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

> >>>>>>>>>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

> >>>>>>>>>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>

> >>>>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>>>Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

> >>>>>>>>same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

>

> >>>>>>>It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

> >>>>>>>able to extract the files from the backup.

>

> >>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>I used the W2K Backup wizard and backed up the Sys state.

>

> >>>>>Along with the .bkf backup file (that you placed in a location of your

> >>>>>choosing) NTBackup should have also created backup copies of the

> >>>>>registry hives and placed them in the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder. Take

> >>>>>a look in there and look at the timestamp on the hives. You can copy

> >>>>>them to the System32\config folder to replace the broken hives.

>

> >>>>>John

>

> >>>>Is this an automatic thing that NTbackup does? My PC is at repair

> >>>>shop now so I can't verify this.

>

> >>>Update: PC repair shop says that the 'load hive' command stays grayed

> >>>out and does not work. Is there a trick to it? He followed the

> >>>directions above that you provided the address to and I printed it out

> >>>for him.

>

> >>With Windows 2000 it cannot be done with Regedit, he *must* use

> >>Regedt32. He must also bring forth either the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or the

> >>HKEY_USERS pane and he must click on and highlight the root key

> >>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_USERS, once the root key is highlighted he

> >>will be able to load the hive of the broken installation. If he is

> >>doing this with XP he can do it with Regedit but he must still highlight

> >>one of the root keys mentioned above, he will only be able to load the

> >>hive when he highlights one of the keys.

>

> >>Also, see my other post, when you did a backup of the System State data

> >>a copy of your registry hives was placed in the WINNT\repair\RegBack

> >>folder, he can use these copies to try to bring the machine back up.

>

> >>John

>

> > Can he just 'drag and drop' the regback into the C drive location? Is

> > it that simple or do you have to import or anything like that. Thanks

> > for being patient with me as I have never dealt with a situation like

> > this.

>

> He can just rename the files in question with a .old extension, or to

> reduce clutter in the config folder he can move them out to a temporary

> location for the time being, if the repair is succesful they can then be

> discarded.

>

> Move the following hives out of the \WINNT\System32\config folder:

>

> default

> SAM

> SECURITY

> software

> system

>

> Then copy the same respective backup hives from the

> \WINNT\repair\RegBack to the config folder and see if the machine can be

> booted.

>

> John

 

Will keep you posted John,

 

Sounds like this is the way to go. All I have to do then is reinstall

a couple of programs if it works.

[Guest chevyavalanche]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

On Jan 31, 7:42 am, chevyavalanche <chevyavalanche2...@yahoo.com>

wrote:

> On Jan 30, 6:00 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

>

>

> > chevyavalanche wrote:

> > > On Jan 30, 5:18 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> > >>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> > >>>On Jan 30, 4:23 pm, chevyavalanche <chevyavalanche2...@yahoo.com>

> > >>>wrote:

>

> > >>>>On Jan 30, 3:43 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> > >>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> > >>>>>>On Jan 30, 2:49 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> > >>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> > >>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> > >>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>John John wrote:

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>John

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>back on:

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

> > >>>>>>>>>>>information?

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

> > >>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

> > >>>>>>>>>>>the contents here?

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

> > >>>>>>>>>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

> > >>>>>>>>>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

> > >>>>>>>>>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

> > >>>>>>>>>>> \SYSTEM

> > >>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet001

> > >>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet002

> > >>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet003

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

> > >>>>>>>>>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

> > >>>>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

> > >>>>>>>>>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

> > >>>>>>>>>>>options are:

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>> -Current

> > >>>>>>>>>>> -Default

> > >>>>>>>>>>> -Failed

> > >>>>>>>>>>> -LastKnownGood

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

> > >>>>>>>>>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

> > >>>>>>>>>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

> > >>>>>>>>>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

> > >>>>>>>>>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

> > >>>>>>>>>>>unloaded.

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>Also, when the entry is

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>Again, thanks for

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>the help!

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

> > >>>>>>>>>>>installation, right?

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>>John

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>John,

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

> > >>>>>>>>>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

> > >>>>>>>>>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

> > >>>>>>>>>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

> > >>>>>>>>>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

> > >>>>>>>>>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

> > >>>>>>>>>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

> > >>>>>>>>>>last known good config does not work.

>

> > >>>>>>>>>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

> > >>>>>>>>>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

> > >>>>>>>>>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>

> > >>>>>>>>>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

> > >>>>>>>>>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

> > >>>>>>>>>If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

> > >>>>>>>>>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

> > >>>>>>>>>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

> > >>>>>>>>>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>

> > >>>>>>>>>John

>

> > >>>>>>>>Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

> > >>>>>>>>same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

>

> > >>>>>>>It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

> > >>>>>>>able to extract the files from the backup.

>

> > >>>>>>>John

>

> > >>>>>>I used the W2K Backup wizard and backed up the Sys state.

>

> > >>>>>Along with the .bkf backup file (that you placed in a location of your

> > >>>>>choosing) NTBackup should have also created backup copies of the

> > >>>>>registry hives and placed them in the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder. Take

> > >>>>>a look in there and look at the timestamp on the hives. You can copy

> > >>>>>them to the System32\config folder to replace the broken hives.

>

> > >>>>>John

>

> > >>>>Is this an automatic thing that NTbackup does? My PC is at repair

> > >>>>shop now so I can't verify this.

>

> > >>>Update: PC repair shop says that the 'load hive' command stays grayed

> > >>>out and does not work. Is there a trick to it? He followed the

> > >>>directions above that you provided the address to and I printed it out

> > >>>for him.

>

> > >>With Windows 2000 it cannot be done with Regedit, he *must* use

> > >>Regedt32. He must also bring forth either the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or the

> > >>HKEY_USERS pane and he must click on and highlight the root key

> > >>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_USERS, once the root key is highlighted he

> > >>will be able to load the hive of the broken installation. If he is

> > >>doing this with XP he can do it with Regedit but he must still highlight

> > >>one of the root keys mentioned above, he will only be able to load the

> > >>hive when he highlights one of the keys.

>

> > >>Also, see my other post, when you did a backup of the System State data

> > >>a copy of your registry hives was placed in the WINNT\repair\RegBack

> > >>folder, he can use these copies to try to bring the machine back up.

>

> > >>John

>

> > > Can he just 'drag and drop' the regback into the C drive location? Is

> > > it that simple or do you have to import or anything like that. Thanks

> > > for being patient with me as I have never dealt with a situation like

> > > this.

>

> > He can just rename the files in question with a .old extension, or to

> > reduce clutter in the config folder he can move them out to a temporary

> > location for the time being, if the repair is succesful they can then be

> > discarded.

>

> > Move the following hives out of the \WINNT\System32\config folder:

>

> > default

> > SAM

> > SECURITY

> > software

> > system

>

> > Then copy the same respective backup hives from the

> > \WINNT\repair\RegBack to the config folder and see if the machine can be

> > booted.

>

> > John

>

> Will keep you posted John,

>

> Sounds like this is the way to go. All I have to do then is reinstall

> a couple of programs if it works.

 

This didn't work John.

[Guest John John]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

chevyavalanche wrote:

> On Jan 31, 7:42 am, chevyavalanche <chevyavalanche2...@yahoo.com>

> wrote:

>

>>On Jan 30, 6:00 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>>

>>>>On Jan 30, 5:18 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>On Jan 30, 4:23 pm, chevyavalanche <chevyavalanche2...@yahoo.com>

>>>>>>wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 3:43 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 2:49 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>back on:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>information?

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the contents here?

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \SYSTEM

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet001

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet002

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet003

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>options are:

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Current

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Default

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Failed

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -LastKnownGood

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>unloaded.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Also, when the entry is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, thanks for

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the help!

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>installation, right?

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>John,

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

>>>>>>>>>>>>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

>>>>>>>>>>>>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

>>>>>>>>>>>>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

>>>>>>>>>>>>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>last known good config does not work.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

>>>>>>>>>>>>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

>>>>>>>>>>>>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

>>>>>>>>>>>>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

>>>>>>>>>>>>If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

>>>>>>>>>>>>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

>>>>>>>>>>>>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

>>>>>>>>>>>>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>>>>>>Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

>>>>>>>>>>>same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

>>

>>>>>>>>>>It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

>>>>>>>>>>able to extract the files from the backup.

>>

>>>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>>>>I used the W2K Backup wizard and backed up the Sys state.

>>

>>>>>>>>Along with the .bkf backup file (that you placed in a location of your

>>>>>>>>choosing) NTBackup should have also created backup copies of the

>>>>>>>>registry hives and placed them in the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder. Take

>>>>>>>>a look in there and look at the timestamp on the hives. You can copy

>>>>>>>>them to the System32\config folder to replace the broken hives.

>>

>>>>>>>>John

>>

>>>>>>>Is this an automatic thing that NTbackup does? My PC is at repair

>>>>>>>shop now so I can't verify this.

>>

>>>>>>Update: PC repair shop says that the 'load hive' command stays grayed

>>>>>>out and does not work. Is there a trick to it? He followed the

>>>>>>directions above that you provided the address to and I printed it out

>>>>>>for him.

>>

>>>>>With Windows 2000 it cannot be done with Regedit, he *must* use

>>>>>Regedt32. He must also bring forth either the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or the

>>>>>HKEY_USERS pane and he must click on and highlight the root key

>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_USERS, once the root key is highlighted he

>>>>>will be able to load the hive of the broken installation. If he is

>>>>>doing this with XP he can do it with Regedit but he must still highlight

>>>>>one of the root keys mentioned above, he will only be able to load the

>>>>>hive when he highlights one of the keys.

>>

>>>>>Also, see my other post, when you did a backup of the System State data

>>>>>a copy of your registry hives was placed in the WINNT\repair\RegBack

>>>>>folder, he can use these copies to try to bring the machine back up.

>>

>>>>>John

>>

>>>>Can he just 'drag and drop' the regback into the C drive location? Is

>>>>it that simple or do you have to import or anything like that. Thanks

>>>>for being patient with me as I have never dealt with a situation like

>>>>this.

>>

>>>He can just rename the files in question with a .old extension, or to

>>>reduce clutter in the config folder he can move them out to a temporary

>>>location for the time being, if the repair is succesful they can then be

>>>discarded.

>>

>>>Move the following hives out of the \WINNT\System32\config folder:

>>

>>>default

>>>SAM

>>>SECURITY

>>>software

>>>system

>>

>>>Then copy the same respective backup hives from the

>>>\WINNT\repair\RegBack to the config folder and see if the machine can be

>>>booted.

>>

>>>John

>>

>>Will keep you posted John,

>>

>>Sounds like this is the way to go. All I have to do then is reinstall

>>a couple of programs if it works.

>

>

> This didn't work John.

 

You could always try it with the first set of hives, the hives that were

created when you installed Windows 2000, these are in the \WINNT\repair

folder. If it does boot you can then try to restore the System State to

the newer date.

 

John

[Guest chevyavalanche]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

On Jan 31, 10:50 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> chevyavalanche wrote:

> > On Jan 31, 7:42 am, chevyavalanche <chevyavalanche2...@yahoo.com>

> > wrote:

>

> >>On Jan 30, 6:00 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>On Jan 30, 5:18 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>On Jan 30, 4:23 pm, chevyavalanche <chevyavalanche2...@yahoo.com>

> >>>>>>wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>On Jan 30, 3:43 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 2:49 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 12:32 pm, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Jan 30, 11:11 am, John John <audetw...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John John wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The backup for the registry entries disabled by msconfig are stored at:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From the information there you will have to rebuild the deleted entry.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>chevyavalanche wrote:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks so much for the help. Have you ever had to do this? How do I

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rebuild or turn on the key? This is the key that needs to be turned

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>back on:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\WControl\c:\xxxx.exe

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>That doesn't sound like a valid registry key, where did you obtain that

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>information?

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>You say you disabled the item in msconfig, right? Can you export the

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSConfig\startupreg key and post

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>the contents here?

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>There is no HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet key on a dormant

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Windows installation, you won't see a CurrentControlSet key when you

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>load the hive of the broken machine. The CurrentControlSet is created

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>from one of the numbered control set when the computer is booted, it is

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>a copy of the Control Set that was used to boot Windows. The registry

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>contains numbered Control Sets such as:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> \SYSTEM

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet001

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet002

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> \ControlSet003

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>You may not have an 003 key it depends on if you have previously failed

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>hives. When the Windows is booted Ntldr reads the contents of the

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key to decide which Control Set will be

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>loaded depending on which startup option you selected, the startup

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>options are:

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Current

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Default

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Failed

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -LastKnownGood

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Default is the Control set that normally boots. By looking at the Data

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Value of the option in the Select key you will know which Control Set to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>edit, for example if Default has Data value 0x00000001 then

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>ControlSet001 is the Control set that normally boots Windows, that is

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>the Control Set that you must edit.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Once I get this key back on, when you save and 'Unload Hive', does

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this put it back into the C drive registry?

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, you *must* unload the hive, the changes are saved when the hive is

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>unloaded.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Also, when the entry is

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>created as a folder called "system offline", does this stay in my

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other drive or is it removed when I 'Unload Hive'?

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>No, when you unload the hive it will delete the temporary hive.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Again, thanks for

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the help!

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>You're welcome. By the way, you are trying to repair a Windows 2000

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>installation, right?

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>John,

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes it is a Windows 2000 installation.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>The key appears to be valid as I use a program to view all running

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>services and it displays the registry key they belong to. If you

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>thought the xxxx was bogus, it is because I didn't show the real

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>program name. It really is ccmagent.exe. I believe what this shows

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>as I have used it a couple of times before and it was correct. I

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>won't know for sure until we get back into the registry of course. It

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>will be the Default setting then. I am still baffled as to why the

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>last known good config does not work.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Can't post anything now as I'm at work. I'm going to a PC repair

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>place shortly with your directions to see if we can get this

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>resolved. I will keep you posted.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>Ok, good luck with the repair. Do you have a recent Emergency Repair

> >>>>>>>>>>>>Disk (ERD)? If yes, did you backup the registry when you made the ERD?

> >>>>>>>>>>>>If yes you may be able to get out of the predicament with the ERD or

> >>>>>>>>>>>>by copying the backup hives from the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder to the

> >>>>>>>>>>>>WINNT\System32\config folder, this will work if the backup is fairly

> >>>>>>>>>>>>recent, if the backups are old it may not work as well.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>Don't have an ERD. Backed up System State last Friday. Can I do the

> >>>>>>>>>>>same with this back up as you suggest with ERD?

>

> >>>>>>>>>>It depends on how you made the System State backup, you would have to be

> >>>>>>>>>>able to extract the files from the backup.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>>>>I used the W2K Backup wizard and backed up the Sys state.

>

> >>>>>>>>Along with the .bkf backup file (that you placed in a location of your

> >>>>>>>>choosing) NTBackup should have also created backup copies of the

> >>>>>>>>registry hives and placed them in the WINNT\repair\RegBack folder. Take

> >>>>>>>>a look in there and look at the timestamp on the hives. You can copy

> >>>>>>>>them to the System32\config folder to replace the broken hives.

>

> >>>>>>>>John

>

> >>>>>>>Is this an automatic thing that NTbackup does? My PC is at repair

> >>>>>>>shop now so I can't verify this.

>

> >>>>>>Update: PC repair shop says that the 'load hive' command stays grayed

> >>>>>>out and does not work. Is there a trick to it? He followed the

> >>>>>>directions above that you provided the address to and I printed it out

> >>>>>>for him.

>

> >>>>>With Windows 2000 it cannot be done with Regedit, he *must* use

> >>>>>Regedt32. He must also bring forth either the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or the

> >>>>>HKEY_USERS pane and he must click on and highlight the root key

> >>>>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE or HKEY_USERS, once the root key is highlighted he

> >>>>>will be able to load the hive of the broken installation. If he is

> >>>>>doing this with XP he can do it with Regedit but he must still highlight

> >>>>>one of the root keys mentioned above, he will only be able to load the

> >>>>>hive when he highlights one of the keys.

>

> >>>>>Also, see my other post, when you did a backup of the System State data

> >>>>>a copy of your registry hives was placed in the WINNT\repair\RegBack

> >>>>>folder, he can use these copies to try to bring the machine back up.

>

> >>>>>John

>

> >>>>Can he just 'drag and drop' the regback into the C drive location? Is

> >>>>it that simple or do you have to import or anything like that. Thanks

> >>>>for being patient with me as I have never dealt with a situation like

> >>>>this.

>

> >>>He can just rename the files in question with a .old extension, or to

> >>>reduce clutter in the config folder he can move them out to a temporary

> >>>location for the time being, if the repair is succesful they can then be

> >>>discarded.

>

> >>>Move the following hives out of the \WINNT\System32\config folder:

>

> >>>default

> >>>SAM

> >>>SECURITY

> >>>software

> >>>system

>

> >>>Then copy the same respective backup hives from the

> >>>\WINNT\repair\RegBack to the config folder and see if the machine can be

> >>>booted.

>

> >>>John

>

> >>Will keep you posted John,

>

> >>Sounds like this is the way to go. All I have to do then is reinstall

> >>a couple of programs if it works.

>

> > This didn't work John.

>

> You could always try it with the first set of hives, the hives that were

> created when you installed Windows 2000, these are in the \WINNT\repair

> folder. If it does boot you can then try to restore the System State to

> the newer date.

>

> John

 

The crux of the issue is to get the NTbackup software to backup to the

correct drive. I am not there physically but what just happened was a

restore of the system state to the wrong drive thereby screwing it up

now. My C drive was the drive not working correctly and now my G

drive has the C system state on it. How does one force the NTbackup

to the right drive? He was booting into G drive and wanted to restore

system state to C drive.

[Guest John John]

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

Re: Restore or turn on a registry key on C drive from a differenthard drive

 

chevyavalanche wrote:

>>>>>>John John wrote:

>>>>>>Can he just 'drag and drop' the regback into the C drive location? Is

>>>>>>it that simple or do you have to import or anything like that. Thanks

>>>>>>for being patient with me as I have never dealt with a situation like

>>>>>>this.

>>

>>>>>He can just rename the files in question with a .old extension, or to

>>>>>reduce clutter in the config folder he can move them out to a temporary

>>>>>location for the time being, if the repair is succesful they can then be

>>>>>discarded.

>>

>>>>>Move the following hives out of the \WINNT\System32\config folder:

>>

>>>>>default

>>>>>SAM

>>>>>SECURITY

>>>>>software

>>>>>system

>>

>>>>>Then copy the same respective backup hives from the

>>>>>\WINNT\repair\RegBack to the config folder and see if the machine can be

>>>>>booted.

>>

>>>>>John

>>

>>>>Will keep you posted John,

>>

>>>>Sounds like this is the way to go. All I have to do then is reinstall

>>>>a couple of programs if it works.

>>

>>>This didn't work John.

>>

>>You could always try it with the first set of hives, the hives that were

>>created when you installed Windows 2000, these are in the \WINNT\repair

>>folder. If it does boot you can then try to restore the System State to

>>the newer date.

>>

>>John

>

>

> The crux of the issue is to get the NTbackup software to backup to the

> correct drive. I am not there physically but what just happened was a

> restore of the system state to the wrong drive thereby screwing it up

> now. My C drive was the drive not working correctly and now my G

> drive has the C system state on it. How does one force the NTbackup

> to the right drive? He was booting into G drive and wanted to restore

> system state to C drive.

 

He could have selected to restore to an Alternate Location, I'm not at a

Windows 2000 station right now so I can't check but I do believe that it

is in the NTBackup restore options. It wouldn't make much difference

because when you restore to an alternate location it doesn't restore the

complete System State, on a workstation for all intents and purposes it

would only restore the registry files, it more or less would be the same

as copying the individual files from the Regback folder to the config

folder.

 

As I see it now, it looks like things are going from bad to worse, I

hope that you aren't paying by the hour for this repair job! If the

machine cannot be brought back up by remote registry editing or by

replacing the registry hives with the backup copies it may be time to

cut your losses. Before you take further steps you should make sure

that all your important files are retrieved and properly stored on an

independent media source. If your backup plans included disaster or

bare metal recovery methods it may be time to put the plan in action.

If you had no disaster/bare metal recovery plans then the next thing to

try might be to do an in-place upgrade (repair) of the operating system.

 

How to perform an in-place upgrade of Windows 2000

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/292175

 

What an in-place Windows 2000 upgrade changes and what it does not change

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306952/

 

John