problems installing .64 bit

[Guest Iplant]

Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

....running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to Ultimate

32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64 bit. Tried

to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to do a clean

install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point of

selecting drives.

There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key, I need to

be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home Prem...tried

again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine valadition...same

error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or perhaps ideas on

a work around?

 

Thanks As always, Karen

 

....always learning

[Guest Theo]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Perhaps you could clarify a few things.

 

Are you trying to install a x64 Retail version or an OEM

version?

 

Are you deleting the previous 32-bit installation before you

attempt to install the 64-bit version?

 

Mostly it's a lack of definitive information as to what is

going on. Please be as detailed as you can.

 

 

Iplant wrote:

> Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

> ...running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to Ultimate

> 32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64 bit. Tried

> to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to do a clean

> install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point of

> selecting drives.

> There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key, I need to

> be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home Prem...tried

> again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine valadition...same

> error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or perhaps ideas on

> a work around?

>

> Thanks As always, Karen

>

> ...always learning

[Guest Iplant]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Sorry...the PC came with Vista Home Preminum 32 bit installed...that's what

is loaded on the PC right now. I have purchased retail Upgrade Vista

Ultimate disk that I wish to install.

 

The version I wanted to install was 64 bit.

 

In the past, I have used the 32 disk to upgrade this Home preminum OEM to

Vista Ultimate 32 bit...this did work! However, it does not seem to allow me

to upgrade the Home Preminum version 32 bit to a Ultimate 64 bit version.

 

It does start the installation, and stops at the screen which allows you to

choose which hard drive the installation should be on. It tells me that I

need to have a genuine Windows copy running on the hard disk. I do have the

32 bit version and it is validated.

 

I am assuming that I need to purchase a full retail copy of Vista and

install the 64 bit version over my 32 OEM Home Preminum version in order do

this type of upgrade. It seems a shame not to be able to use the purchased

disk to upgrade to 64 bit...it wasn't cheap.

--

always learning

 

 

"Theo" wrote:

> Perhaps you could clarify a few things.

>

> Are you trying to install a x64 Retail version or an OEM

> version?

>

> Are you deleting the previous 32-bit installation before you

> attempt to install the 64-bit version?

>

> Mostly it's a lack of definitive information as to what is

> going on. Please be as detailed as you can.

>

>

> Iplant wrote:

> > Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

> > ...running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to Ultimate

> > 32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64 bit. Tried

> > to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to do a clean

> > install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point of

> > selecting drives.

> > There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key, I need to

> > be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home Prem...tried

> > again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine valadition...same

> > error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or perhaps ideas on

> > a work around?

> >

> > Thanks As always, Karen

> >

> > ...always learning

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

First of all it is not an upgrade but a migration. Sounds like a fine

distinction, but it is not.

 

Just to be sure, you have booted the computer with the Vista x64 dvd, right?

 

"Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:4205EC99-A667-4A92-844F-278CD8079271@microsoft.com...

> Sorry...the PC came with Vista Home Preminum 32 bit installed...that's

> what

> is loaded on the PC right now. I have purchased retail Upgrade Vista

> Ultimate disk that I wish to install.

>

> The version I wanted to install was 64 bit.

>

> In the past, I have used the 32 disk to upgrade this Home preminum OEM to

> Vista Ultimate 32 bit...this did work! However, it does not seem to allow

> me

> to upgrade the Home Preminum version 32 bit to a Ultimate 64 bit version.

>

> It does start the installation, and stops at the screen which allows you

> to

> choose which hard drive the installation should be on. It tells me that I

> need to have a genuine Windows copy running on the hard disk. I do have

> the

> 32 bit version and it is validated.

>

> I am assuming that I need to purchase a full retail copy of Vista and

> install the 64 bit version over my 32 OEM Home Preminum version in order

> do

> this type of upgrade. It seems a shame not to be able to use the

> purchased

> disk to upgrade to 64 bit...it wasn't cheap.

> --

> always learning

>

>

> "Theo" wrote:

>

>> Perhaps you could clarify a few things.

>>

>> Are you trying to install a x64 Retail version or an OEM

>> version?

>>

>> Are you deleting the previous 32-bit installation before you

>> attempt to install the 64-bit version?

>>

>> Mostly it's a lack of definitive information as to what is

>> going on. Please be as detailed as you can.

>>

>>

>> Iplant wrote:

>> > Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

>> > ...running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to

>> > Ultimate

>> > 32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64 bit.

>> > Tried

>> > to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to do a

>> > clean

>> > install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point of

>> > selecting drives.

>> > There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key, I

>> > need to

>> > be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home

>> > Prem...tried

>> > again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine

>> > valadition...same

>> > error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or perhaps

>> > ideas on

>> > a work around?

>> >

>> > Thanks As always, Karen

>> >

>> > ...always learning

>>

[Guest Jane C]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Hi Karen,

 

All upgrades (using upgrade version media) must be started from the existing

desktop, not by booting with the DVD. As you are upgrading from a 32 bit to

a 64 bit version, you will have to perform the "custom install" option.

This should give you the opportunity to either install to a different

drive/partition, or to wipe out and install over the current installation.

 

The current Windows version must be up and running so that the upgrade can

actually check that you are in compliance for the upgrade.

 

--

Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

MVP Windows Desktop Experience

 

"Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:4205EC99-A667-4A92-844F-278CD8079271@microsoft.com...

> Sorry...the PC came with Vista Home Preminum 32 bit installed...that's

> what

> is loaded on the PC right now. I have purchased retail Upgrade Vista

> Ultimate disk that I wish to install.

>

> The version I wanted to install was 64 bit.

>

> In the past, I have used the 32 disk to upgrade this Home preminum OEM to

> Vista Ultimate 32 bit...this did work! However, it does not seem to allow

> me

> to upgrade the Home Preminum version 32 bit to a Ultimate 64 bit version.

>

> It does start the installation, and stops at the screen which allows you

> to

> choose which hard drive the installation should be on. It tells me that I

> need to have a genuine Windows copy running on the hard disk. I do have

> the

> 32 bit version and it is validated.

>

> I am assuming that I need to purchase a full retail copy of Vista and

> install the 64 bit version over my 32 OEM Home Preminum version in order

> do

> this type of upgrade. It seems a shame not to be able to use the

> purchased

> disk to upgrade to 64 bit...it wasn't cheap.

> --

> always learning

>

>

> "Theo" wrote:

>

>> Perhaps you could clarify a few things.

>>

>> Are you trying to install a x64 Retail version or an OEM

>> version?

>>

>> Are you deleting the previous 32-bit installation before you

>> attempt to install the 64-bit version?

>>

>> Mostly it's a lack of definitive information as to what is

>> going on. Please be as detailed as you can.

>>

>>

>> Iplant wrote:

>> > Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

>> > ...running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to

>> > Ultimate

>> > 32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64 bit.

>> > Tried

>> > to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to do a

>> > clean

>> > install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point of

>> > selecting drives.

>> > There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key, I

>> > need to

>> > be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home

>> > Prem...tried

>> > again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine

>> > valadition...same

>> > error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or perhaps

>> > ideas on

>> > a work around?

>> >

>> > Thanks As always, Karen

>> >

>> > ...always learning

>>

[Guest Iplant]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Hi Colin and Jane,

 

I have tried both methods to make this work, from the desktop and from the

dvd boot...the desktop tells me I need need to boot from the install media,

the boot DVD tells me I can only do a custom clean install (upgrade has been

disabled), lets me type the product key and at the next window that selects

the drive to install it on, it will not let me proceed. The yellow warning

message is this "To use the product key you entered, start the installation

on a computer that is running a genuine version of Vista." I double

checked...and went out to the site...the label indicates I am genuine...

--

always learning

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> First of all it is not an upgrade but a migration. Sounds like a fine

> distinction, but it is not.

>

> Just to be sure, you have booted the computer with the Vista x64 dvd, right?

>

> "Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:4205EC99-A667-4A92-844F-278CD8079271@microsoft.com...

> > Sorry...the PC came with Vista Home Preminum 32 bit installed...that's

> > what

> > is loaded on the PC right now. I have purchased retail Upgrade Vista

> > Ultimate disk that I wish to install.

> >

> > The version I wanted to install was 64 bit.

> >

> > In the past, I have used the 32 disk to upgrade this Home preminum OEM to

> > Vista Ultimate 32 bit...this did work! However, it does not seem to allow

> > me

> > to upgrade the Home Preminum version 32 bit to a Ultimate 64 bit version.

> >

> > It does start the installation, and stops at the screen which allows you

> > to

> > choose which hard drive the installation should be on. It tells me that I

> > need to have a genuine Windows copy running on the hard disk. I do have

> > the

> > 32 bit version and it is validated.

> >

> > I am assuming that I need to purchase a full retail copy of Vista and

> > install the 64 bit version over my 32 OEM Home Preminum version in order

> > do

> > this type of upgrade. It seems a shame not to be able to use the

> > purchased

> > disk to upgrade to 64 bit...it wasn't cheap.

> > --

> > always learning

> >

> >

> > "Theo" wrote:

> >

> >> Perhaps you could clarify a few things.

> >>

> >> Are you trying to install a x64 Retail version or an OEM

> >> version?

> >>

> >> Are you deleting the previous 32-bit installation before you

> >> attempt to install the 64-bit version?

> >>

> >> Mostly it's a lack of definitive information as to what is

> >> going on. Please be as detailed as you can.

> >>

> >>

> >> Iplant wrote:

> >> > Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

> >> > ...running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to

> >> > Ultimate

> >> > 32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64 bit.

> >> > Tried

> >> > to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to do a

> >> > clean

> >> > install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point of

> >> > selecting drives.

> >> > There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key, I

> >> > need to

> >> > be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home

> >> > Prem...tried

> >> > again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine

> >> > valadition...same

> >> > error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or perhaps

> >> > ideas on

> >> > a work around?

> >> >

> >> > Thanks As always, Karen

> >> >

> >> > ...always learning

> >>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Ah. Well you can't run from the desktop of a 32bit system because Vista x64

Setup is a 64bit program. As to "genuine version of Windows" the installed

Windows clearly failed validation. That is another issue.

 

"Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:6167823C-53BF-4A01-8802-8736FADB9AD0@microsoft.com...

> Hi Colin and Jane,

>

> I have tried both methods to make this work, from the desktop and from the

> dvd boot...the desktop tells me I need need to boot from the install

> media,

> the boot DVD tells me I can only do a custom clean install (upgrade has

> been

> disabled), lets me type the product key and at the next window that

> selects

> the drive to install it on, it will not let me proceed. The yellow

> warning

> message is this "To use the product key you entered, start the

> installation

> on a computer that is running a genuine version of Vista." I double

> checked...and went out to the site...the label indicates I am genuine...

> --

> always learning

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

>

>> First of all it is not an upgrade but a migration. Sounds like a fine

>> distinction, but it is not.

>>

>> Just to be sure, you have booted the computer with the Vista x64 dvd,

>> right?

>>

>> "Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:4205EC99-A667-4A92-844F-278CD8079271@microsoft.com...

>> > Sorry...the PC came with Vista Home Preminum 32 bit installed...that's

>> > what

>> > is loaded on the PC right now. I have purchased retail Upgrade Vista

>> > Ultimate disk that I wish to install.

>> >

>> > The version I wanted to install was 64 bit.

>> >

>> > In the past, I have used the 32 disk to upgrade this Home preminum OEM

>> > to

>> > Vista Ultimate 32 bit...this did work! However, it does not seem to

>> > allow

>> > me

>> > to upgrade the Home Preminum version 32 bit to a Ultimate 64 bit

>> > version.

>> >

>> > It does start the installation, and stops at the screen which allows

>> > you

>> > to

>> > choose which hard drive the installation should be on. It tells me

>> > that I

>> > need to have a genuine Windows copy running on the hard disk. I do

>> > have

>> > the

>> > 32 bit version and it is validated.

>> >

>> > I am assuming that I need to purchase a full retail copy of Vista and

>> > install the 64 bit version over my 32 OEM Home Preminum version in

>> > order

>> > do

>> > this type of upgrade. It seems a shame not to be able to use the

>> > purchased

>> > disk to upgrade to 64 bit...it wasn't cheap.

>> > --

>> > always learning

>> >

>> >

>> > "Theo" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Perhaps you could clarify a few things.

>> >>

>> >> Are you trying to install a x64 Retail version or an OEM

>> >> version?

>> >>

>> >> Are you deleting the previous 32-bit installation before you

>> >> attempt to install the 64-bit version?

>> >>

>> >> Mostly it's a lack of definitive information as to what is

>> >> going on. Please be as detailed as you can.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> Iplant wrote:

>> >> > Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

>> >> > ...running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to

>> >> > Ultimate

>> >> > 32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64

>> >> > bit.

>> >> > Tried

>> >> > to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to

>> >> > do a

>> >> > clean

>> >> > install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point

>> >> > of

>> >> > selecting drives.

>> >> > There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key, I

>> >> > need to

>> >> > be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home

>> >> > Prem...tried

>> >> > again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine

>> >> > valadition...same

>> >> > error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or perhaps

>> >> > ideas on

>> >> > a work around?

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanks As always, Karen

>> >> >

>> >> > ...always learning

>> >>

>>

[Guest Jane C]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Scratch that reply - brain fade issue :((

 

--

Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

MVP Windows Desktop Experience

"Jane C" <janecolman@invalid.iinet.net.au> wrote in message

news:DFE9F9FE-4FAD-4B57-BA0E-38868A1F3B77@microsoft.com...

> Hi Karen,

>

> All upgrades (using upgrade version media) must be started from the

> existing desktop, not by booting with the DVD. As you are upgrading from

> a 32 bit to a 64 bit version, you will have to perform the "custom

> install" option. This should give you the opportunity to either install to

> a different drive/partition, or to wipe out and install over the current

> installation.

>

> The current Windows version must be up and running so that the upgrade can

> actually check that you are in compliance for the upgrade.

>

> --

> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

> MVP Windows Desktop Experience

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

No, Jane. Vista x64 upgrade editions must start by booting from the dvd if

the legacy Windows is x86. X64 upgrade editions do not work like x86

upgrade editions which do require starting from the existing Windows

desktop, whether that desktop is x86 or x64.

 

The x64 Setup asks for the PK and if it is an upgrade edition PK then

searches the system for a qualifying installed Windows. If it finds one it

proceeds exactly as it would if it were a full edition PK. If you boot with

an x64 dvd and enter an upgrade edition PK you will NOT be blocked by "The

product key you entered requires you to install Windows from the existing

Windows."

 

That means that unlike the x86 upgrade editions, the x64 ones permit a true

clean install. This is because the user has booted with the dvd and the

disk tools are therefore available.

 

A custom install is required unless the installed Windows is upgradeable by

the new version. That means that if you have Vista Home Basic x64, Vista

Home Premium x64, or Vista Business x64 installed and you are installing

Vista Ultimate x64 the Upgrade option will be enabled too. Anything else

and only Custom will be enabled.

 

"Jane C" <janecolman@invalid.iinet.net.au> wrote in message

news:DFE9F9FE-4FAD-4B57-BA0E-38868A1F3B77@microsoft.com...

> Hi Karen,

>

> All upgrades (using upgrade version media) must be started from the

> existing desktop, not by booting with the DVD. As you are upgrading from

> a 32 bit to a 64 bit version, you will have to perform the "custom

> install" option. This should give you the opportunity to either install to

> a different drive/partition, or to wipe out and install over the current

> installation.

>

> The current Windows version must be up and running so that the upgrade can

> actually check that you are in compliance for the upgrade.

>

> --

> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

> MVP Windows Desktop Experience

>

> "Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:4205EC99-A667-4A92-844F-278CD8079271@microsoft.com...

>> Sorry...the PC came with Vista Home Preminum 32 bit installed...that's

>> what

>> is loaded on the PC right now. I have purchased retail Upgrade Vista

>> Ultimate disk that I wish to install.

>>

>> The version I wanted to install was 64 bit.

>>

>> In the past, I have used the 32 disk to upgrade this Home preminum OEM to

>> Vista Ultimate 32 bit...this did work! However, it does not seem to

>> allow me

>> to upgrade the Home Preminum version 32 bit to a Ultimate 64 bit version.

>>

>> It does start the installation, and stops at the screen which allows you

>> to

>> choose which hard drive the installation should be on. It tells me that

>> I

>> need to have a genuine Windows copy running on the hard disk. I do have

>> the

>> 32 bit version and it is validated.

>>

>> I am assuming that I need to purchase a full retail copy of Vista and

>> install the 64 bit version over my 32 OEM Home Preminum version in order

>> do

>> this type of upgrade. It seems a shame not to be able to use the

>> purchased

>> disk to upgrade to 64 bit...it wasn't cheap.

>> --

>> always learning

>>

>>

>> "Theo" wrote:

>>

>>> Perhaps you could clarify a few things.

>>>

>>> Are you trying to install a x64 Retail version or an OEM

>>> version?

>>>

>>> Are you deleting the previous 32-bit installation before you

>>> attempt to install the 64-bit version?

>>>

>>> Mostly it's a lack of definitive information as to what is

>>> going on. Please be as detailed as you can.

>>>

>>>

>>> Iplant wrote:

>>> > Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

>>> > ...running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to

>>> > Ultimate

>>> > 32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64 bit.

>>> > Tried

>>> > to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to do

>>> > a clean

>>> > install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point of

>>> > selecting drives.

>>> > There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key, I

>>> > need to

>>> > be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home

>>> > Prem...tried

>>> > again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine

>>> > valadition...same

>>> > error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or perhaps

>>> > ideas on

>>> > a work around?

>>> >

>>> > Thanks As always, Karen

>>> >

>>> > ...always learning

>>>

>

[Guest Jane C]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Karen, accept my apologies for my earlier reply - a case of brain fade :(

64 bit must be installed by booting from DVD. Why it won't allow your

upgrade edition key to be used I can't make head or tail of, as upgrading by

this method from a 32 bit to a 64 bit installation is certainly supported.

I wonder why it is not detecting that you already have a valid install?

 

--

Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

MVP Windows Desktop Experience

 

"Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:6167823C-53BF-4A01-8802-8736FADB9AD0@microsoft.com...

> Hi Colin and Jane,

>

> I have tried both methods to make this work, from the desktop and from the

> dvd boot...the desktop tells me I need need to boot from the install

> media,

> the boot DVD tells me I can only do a custom clean install (upgrade has

> been

> disabled), lets me type the product key and at the next window that

> selects

> the drive to install it on, it will not let me proceed. The yellow

> warning

> message is this "To use the product key you entered, start the

> installation

> on a computer that is running a genuine version of Vista." I double

> checked...and went out to the site...the label indicates I am genuine...

> --

> always learning

>

>

[Guest Dennis Pack]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Iplant:

After you re-installed Vista 32-bit it has to be activated before it

will showup as genuine. Have a great day.

 

--

Dennis Pack

Vista Enterprise x64, Office 2007

AMD Phenom 2.3

 

"Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:6167823C-53BF-4A01-8802-8736FADB9AD0@microsoft.com...

> Hi Colin and Jane,

>

> I have tried both methods to make this work, from the desktop and from the

> dvd boot...the desktop tells me I need need to boot from the install

> media,

> the boot DVD tells me I can only do a custom clean install (upgrade has

> been

> disabled), lets me type the product key and at the next window that

> selects

> the drive to install it on, it will not let me proceed. The yellow

> warning

> message is this "To use the product key you entered, start the

> installation

> on a computer that is running a genuine version of Vista." I double

> checked...and went out to the site...the label indicates I am genuine...

> --

> always learning

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

>

>> First of all it is not an upgrade but a migration. Sounds like a fine

>> distinction, but it is not.

>>

>> Just to be sure, you have booted the computer with the Vista x64 dvd,

>> right?

>>

>> "Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:4205EC99-A667-4A92-844F-278CD8079271@microsoft.com...

>> > Sorry...the PC came with Vista Home Preminum 32 bit installed...that's

>> > what

>> > is loaded on the PC right now. I have purchased retail Upgrade Vista

>> > Ultimate disk that I wish to install.

>> >

>> > The version I wanted to install was 64 bit.

>> >

>> > In the past, I have used the 32 disk to upgrade this Home preminum OEM

>> > to

>> > Vista Ultimate 32 bit...this did work! However, it does not seem to

>> > allow

>> > me

>> > to upgrade the Home Preminum version 32 bit to a Ultimate 64 bit

>> > version.

>> >

>> > It does start the installation, and stops at the screen which allows

>> > you

>> > to

>> > choose which hard drive the installation should be on. It tells me

>> > that I

>> > need to have a genuine Windows copy running on the hard disk. I do

>> > have

>> > the

>> > 32 bit version and it is validated.

>> >

>> > I am assuming that I need to purchase a full retail copy of Vista and

>> > install the 64 bit version over my 32 OEM Home Preminum version in

>> > order

>> > do

>> > this type of upgrade. It seems a shame not to be able to use the

>> > purchased

>> > disk to upgrade to 64 bit...it wasn't cheap.

>> > --

>> > always learning

>> >

>> >

>> > "Theo" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Perhaps you could clarify a few things.

>> >>

>> >> Are you trying to install a x64 Retail version or an OEM

>> >> version?

>> >>

>> >> Are you deleting the previous 32-bit installation before you

>> >> attempt to install the 64-bit version?

>> >>

>> >> Mostly it's a lack of definitive information as to what is

>> >> going on. Please be as detailed as you can.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> Iplant wrote:

>> >> > Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

>> >> > ...running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to

>> >> > Ultimate

>> >> > 32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64

>> >> > bit.

>> >> > Tried

>> >> > to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to

>> >> > do a

>> >> > clean

>> >> > install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point

>> >> > of

>> >> > selecting drives.

>> >> > There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key, I

>> >> > need to

>> >> > be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home

>> >> > Prem...tried

>> >> > again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine

>> >> > valadition...same

>> >> > error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or perhaps

>> >> > ideas on

>> >> > a work around?

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanks As always, Karen

>> >> >

>> >> > ...always learning

>> >>

>>

[Guest Dennis Pack]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Colin:

The upgrade scenerio is still as confusing as it was before RTM. It's

surprising that there aren't more posts with problems. Have a great day.

 

--

Dennis Pack

Vista Enterprise x64, Office 2007

AMD Phenom 2.3

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:5AFE09E6-4EC0-43D8-B713-A997E05EF6C0@microsoft.com...

> No, Jane. Vista x64 upgrade editions must start by booting from the dvd

> if the legacy Windows is x86. X64 upgrade editions do not work like x86

> upgrade editions which do require starting from the existing Windows

> desktop, whether that desktop is x86 or x64.

>

> The x64 Setup asks for the PK and if it is an upgrade edition PK then

> searches the system for a qualifying installed Windows. If it finds one

> it proceeds exactly as it would if it were a full edition PK. If you boot

> with an x64 dvd and enter an upgrade edition PK you will NOT be blocked by

> "The product key you entered requires you to install Windows from the

> existing Windows."

>

> That means that unlike the x86 upgrade editions, the x64 ones permit a

> true clean install. This is because the user has booted with the dvd and

> the disk tools are therefore available.

>

> A custom install is required unless the installed Windows is upgradeable

> by the new version. That means that if you have Vista Home Basic x64,

> Vista Home Premium x64, or Vista Business x64 installed and you are

> installing Vista Ultimate x64 the Upgrade option will be enabled too.

> Anything else and only Custom will be enabled.

>

> "Jane C" <janecolman@invalid.iinet.net.au> wrote in message

> news:DFE9F9FE-4FAD-4B57-BA0E-38868A1F3B77@microsoft.com...

>> Hi Karen,

>>

>> All upgrades (using upgrade version media) must be started from the

>> existing desktop, not by booting with the DVD. As you are upgrading from

>> a 32 bit to a 64 bit version, you will have to perform the "custom

>> install" option. This should give you the opportunity to either install

>> to a different drive/partition, or to wipe out and install over the

>> current installation.

>>

>> The current Windows version must be up and running so that the upgrade

>> can actually check that you are in compliance for the upgrade.

>>

>> --

>> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

>> MVP Windows Desktop Experience

>>

>> "Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:4205EC99-A667-4A92-844F-278CD8079271@microsoft.com...

>>> Sorry...the PC came with Vista Home Preminum 32 bit installed...that's

>>> what

>>> is loaded on the PC right now. I have purchased retail Upgrade Vista

>>> Ultimate disk that I wish to install.

>>>

>>> The version I wanted to install was 64 bit.

>>>

>>> In the past, I have used the 32 disk to upgrade this Home preminum OEM

>>> to

>>> Vista Ultimate 32 bit...this did work! However, it does not seem to

>>> allow me

>>> to upgrade the Home Preminum version 32 bit to a Ultimate 64 bit

>>> version.

>>>

>>> It does start the installation, and stops at the screen which allows you

>>> to

>>> choose which hard drive the installation should be on. It tells me that

>>> I

>>> need to have a genuine Windows copy running on the hard disk. I do have

>>> the

>>> 32 bit version and it is validated.

>>>

>>> I am assuming that I need to purchase a full retail copy of Vista and

>>> install the 64 bit version over my 32 OEM Home Preminum version in order

>>> do

>>> this type of upgrade. It seems a shame not to be able to use the

>>> purchased

>>> disk to upgrade to 64 bit...it wasn't cheap.

>>> --

>>> always learning

>>>

>>>

>>> "Theo" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Perhaps you could clarify a few things.

>>>>

>>>> Are you trying to install a x64 Retail version or an OEM

>>>> version?

>>>>

>>>> Are you deleting the previous 32-bit installation before you

>>>> attempt to install the 64-bit version?

>>>>

>>>> Mostly it's a lack of definitive information as to what is

>>>> going on. Please be as detailed as you can.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Iplant wrote:

>>>> > Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

>>>> > ...running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to

>>>> > Ultimate

>>>> > 32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64

>>>> > bit. Tried

>>>> > to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to do

>>>> > a clean

>>>> > install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point

>>>> > of

>>>> > selecting drives.

>>>> > There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key, I

>>>> > need to

>>>> > be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home

>>>> > Prem...tried

>>>> > again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine

>>>> > valadition...same

>>>> > error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or perhaps

>>>> > ideas on

>>>> > a work around?

>>>> >

>>>> > Thanks As always, Karen

>>>> >

>>>> > ...always learning

>>>>

>>

>

[Guest Iplant]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Thanks all for the input...I did re-install Ultimate 32 bit and once again

got it re-activated...again...actually was rather quick...I also went out and

made sure I was genuine Windows Vista...got the seal of approval if you

will...ha...ha...but it still stops at the same point...does anyone have

suggestions where I might go to next?

--

always learning

 

 

"Jane C" wrote:

> Scratch that reply - brain fade issue :((

>

> --

> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

> MVP Windows Desktop Experience

> "Jane C" <janecolman@invalid.iinet.net.au> wrote in message

> news:DFE9F9FE-4FAD-4B57-BA0E-38868A1F3B77@microsoft.com...

> > Hi Karen,

> >

> > All upgrades (using upgrade version media) must be started from the

> > existing desktop, not by booting with the DVD. As you are upgrading from

> > a 32 bit to a 64 bit version, you will have to perform the "custom

> > install" option. This should give you the opportunity to either install to

> > a different drive/partition, or to wipe out and install over the current

> > installation.

> >

> > The current Windows version must be up and running so that the upgrade can

> > actually check that you are in compliance for the upgrade.

> >

> > --

> > Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

> > Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

> > MVP Windows Desktop Experience

>

>

[Guest Dennis Pack]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Iplant:

I haven't tried this since I'm running the Enterprise edition but it

should work. Boot the PC with the Vista x64 Ultimate disk in the drive,

don't enter a product key, on the next screen select Ultimate, continue and

complete the installation. After the installation is complete select

computer then select system properties from the tool bar, at the bottom

under "Windows activation" there should be a choice to "change product key",

then type in the upgrade product key. Have a great day.

 

--

Dennis Pack

XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64

Office Professional Plus 2007

"Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:09B91572-1FC2-4A8D-A76F-4A73597DFEC0@microsoft.com...

> Thanks all for the input...I did re-install Ultimate 32 bit and once again

> got it re-activated...again...actually was rather quick...I also went out

> and

> made sure I was genuine Windows Vista...got the seal of approval if you

> will...ha...ha...but it still stops at the same point...does anyone have

> suggestions where I might go to next?

> --

> always learning

>

>

> "Jane C" wrote:

>

>> Scratch that reply - brain fade issue :((

>>

>> --

>> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

>> MVP Windows Desktop Experience

>> "Jane C" <janecolman@invalid.iinet.net.au> wrote in message

>> news:DFE9F9FE-4FAD-4B57-BA0E-38868A1F3B77@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi Karen,

>> >

>> > All upgrades (using upgrade version media) must be started from the

>> > existing desktop, not by booting with the DVD. As you are upgrading

>> > from

>> > a 32 bit to a 64 bit version, you will have to perform the "custom

>> > install" option. This should give you the opportunity to either install

>> > to

>> > a different drive/partition, or to wipe out and install over the

>> > current

>> > installation.

>> >

>> > The current Windows version must be up and running so that the upgrade

>> > can

>> > actually check that you are in compliance for the upgrade.

>> >

>> > --

>> > Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

>> > Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

>> > MVP Windows Desktop Experience

>>

>>

[Guest Iplant]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Your my hero Dennis...that seems to be doing the trick...thanks so much for

the help!

--

always learning

 

 

"Dennis Pack" wrote:

> Iplant:

> I haven't tried this since I'm running the Enterprise edition but it

> should work. Boot the PC with the Vista x64 Ultimate disk in the drive,

> don't enter a product key, on the next screen select Ultimate, continue and

> complete the installation. After the installation is complete select

> computer then select system properties from the tool bar, at the bottom

> under "Windows activation" there should be a choice to "change product key",

> then type in the upgrade product key. Have a great day.

>

> --

> Dennis Pack

> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64

> Office Professional Plus 2007

> "Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:09B91572-1FC2-4A8D-A76F-4A73597DFEC0@microsoft.com...

> > Thanks all for the input...I did re-install Ultimate 32 bit and once again

> > got it re-activated...again...actually was rather quick...I also went out

> > and

> > made sure I was genuine Windows Vista...got the seal of approval if you

> > will...ha...ha...but it still stops at the same point...does anyone have

> > suggestions where I might go to next?

> > --

> > always learning

> >

> >

> > "Jane C" wrote:

> >

> >> Scratch that reply - brain fade issue :((

> >>

> >> --

> >> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

> >> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

> >> MVP Windows Desktop Experience

> >> "Jane C" <janecolman@invalid.iinet.net.au> wrote in message

> >> news:DFE9F9FE-4FAD-4B57-BA0E-38868A1F3B77@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hi Karen,

> >> >

> >> > All upgrades (using upgrade version media) must be started from the

> >> > existing desktop, not by booting with the DVD. As you are upgrading

> >> > from

> >> > a 32 bit to a 64 bit version, you will have to perform the "custom

> >> > install" option. This should give you the opportunity to either install

> >> > to

> >> > a different drive/partition, or to wipe out and install over the

> >> > current

> >> > installation.

> >> >

> >> > The current Windows version must be up and running so that the upgrade

> >> > can

> >> > actually check that you are in compliance for the upgrade.

> >> >

> >> > --

> >> > Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

> >> > Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

> >> > MVP Windows Desktop Experience

> >>

> >>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

I have upgraded unactivated copies of XP to Vista using an upgrade edition

PK.

 

"Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message

news:0A9532DD-2A76-43C4-B919-4E47FC1098CF@microsoft.com...

> Iplant:

> After you re-installed Vista 32-bit it has to be activated before it

> will showup as genuine. Have a great day.

>

> --

> Dennis Pack

> Vista Enterprise x64, Office 2007

> AMD Phenom 2.3

>

> "Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:6167823C-53BF-4A01-8802-8736FADB9AD0@microsoft.com...

>> Hi Colin and Jane,

>>

>> I have tried both methods to make this work, from the desktop and from

>> the

>> dvd boot...the desktop tells me I need need to boot from the install

>> media,

>> the boot DVD tells me I can only do a custom clean install (upgrade has

>> been

>> disabled), lets me type the product key and at the next window that

>> selects

>> the drive to install it on, it will not let me proceed. The yellow

>> warning

>> message is this "To use the product key you entered, start the

>> installation

>> on a computer that is running a genuine version of Vista." I double

>> checked...and went out to the site...the label indicates I am genuine...

>> --

>> always learning

>>

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

>>

>>> First of all it is not an upgrade but a migration. Sounds like a fine

>>> distinction, but it is not.

>>>

>>> Just to be sure, you have booted the computer with the Vista x64 dvd,

>>> right?

>>>

>>> "Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:4205EC99-A667-4A92-844F-278CD8079271@microsoft.com...

>>> > Sorry...the PC came with Vista Home Preminum 32 bit installed...that's

>>> > what

>>> > is loaded on the PC right now. I have purchased retail Upgrade Vista

>>> > Ultimate disk that I wish to install.

>>> >

>>> > The version I wanted to install was 64 bit.

>>> >

>>> > In the past, I have used the 32 disk to upgrade this Home preminum OEM

>>> > to

>>> > Vista Ultimate 32 bit...this did work! However, it does not seem to

>>> > allow

>>> > me

>>> > to upgrade the Home Preminum version 32 bit to a Ultimate 64 bit

>>> > version.

>>> >

>>> > It does start the installation, and stops at the screen which allows

>>> > you

>>> > to

>>> > choose which hard drive the installation should be on. It tells me

>>> > that I

>>> > need to have a genuine Windows copy running on the hard disk. I do

>>> > have

>>> > the

>>> > 32 bit version and it is validated.

>>> >

>>> > I am assuming that I need to purchase a full retail copy of Vista and

>>> > install the 64 bit version over my 32 OEM Home Preminum version in

>>> > order

>>> > do

>>> > this type of upgrade. It seems a shame not to be able to use the

>>> > purchased

>>> > disk to upgrade to 64 bit...it wasn't cheap.

>>> > --

>>> > always learning

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > "Theo" wrote:

>>> >

>>> >> Perhaps you could clarify a few things.

>>> >>

>>> >> Are you trying to install a x64 Retail version or an OEM

>>> >> version?

>>> >>

>>> >> Are you deleting the previous 32-bit installation before you

>>> >> attempt to install the 64-bit version?

>>> >>

>>> >> Mostly it's a lack of definitive information as to what is

>>> >> going on. Please be as detailed as you can.

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> Iplant wrote:

>>> >> > Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

>>> >> > ...running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to

>>> >> > Ultimate

>>> >> > 32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64

>>> >> > bit.

>>> >> > Tried

>>> >> > to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to

>>> >> > do a

>>> >> > clean

>>> >> > install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point

>>> >> > of

>>> >> > selecting drives.

>>> >> > There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key,

>>> >> > I

>>> >> > need to

>>> >> > be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home

>>> >> > Prem...tried

>>> >> > again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine

>>> >> > valadition...same

>>> >> > error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or

>>> >> > perhaps

>>> >> > ideas on

>>> >> > a work around?

>>> >> >

>>> >> > Thanks As always, Karen

>>> >> >

>>> >> > ...always learning

>>> >>

>>>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Yes it is. One has to keep x86 upgrade editions and x64 upgrade editions

completely separated when discussing them.

 

"Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message

news:BC27C8E2-1D04-472A-93AA-E0713625500B@microsoft.com...

> Colin:

> The upgrade scenerio is still as confusing as it was before RTM. It's

> surprising that there aren't more posts with problems. Have a great day.

>

> --

> Dennis Pack

> Vista Enterprise x64, Office 2007

> AMD Phenom 2.3

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:5AFE09E6-4EC0-43D8-B713-A997E05EF6C0@microsoft.com...

>> No, Jane. Vista x64 upgrade editions must start by booting from the dvd

>> if the legacy Windows is x86. X64 upgrade editions do not work like x86

>> upgrade editions which do require starting from the existing Windows

>> desktop, whether that desktop is x86 or x64.

>>

>> The x64 Setup asks for the PK and if it is an upgrade edition PK then

>> searches the system for a qualifying installed Windows. If it finds one

>> it proceeds exactly as it would if it were a full edition PK. If you

>> boot with an x64 dvd and enter an upgrade edition PK you will NOT be

>> blocked by "The product key you entered requires you to install Windows

>> from the existing Windows."

>>

>> That means that unlike the x86 upgrade editions, the x64 ones permit a

>> true clean install. This is because the user has booted with the dvd and

>> the disk tools are therefore available.

>>

>> A custom install is required unless the installed Windows is upgradeable

>> by the new version. That means that if you have Vista Home Basic x64,

>> Vista Home Premium x64, or Vista Business x64 installed and you are

>> installing Vista Ultimate x64 the Upgrade option will be enabled too.

>> Anything else and only Custom will be enabled.

>>

>> "Jane C" <janecolman@invalid.iinet.net.au> wrote in message

>> news:DFE9F9FE-4FAD-4B57-BA0E-38868A1F3B77@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi Karen,

>>>

>>> All upgrades (using upgrade version media) must be started from the

>>> existing desktop, not by booting with the DVD. As you are upgrading

>>> from a 32 bit to a 64 bit version, you will have to perform the "custom

>>> install" option. This should give you the opportunity to either install

>>> to a different drive/partition, or to wipe out and install over the

>>> current installation.

>>>

>>> The current Windows version must be up and running so that the upgrade

>>> can actually check that you are in compliance for the upgrade.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

>>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

>>> MVP Windows Desktop Experience

>>>

>>> "Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:4205EC99-A667-4A92-844F-278CD8079271@microsoft.com...

>>>> Sorry...the PC came with Vista Home Preminum 32 bit installed...that's

>>>> what

>>>> is loaded on the PC right now. I have purchased retail Upgrade Vista

>>>> Ultimate disk that I wish to install.

>>>>

>>>> The version I wanted to install was 64 bit.

>>>>

>>>> In the past, I have used the 32 disk to upgrade this Home preminum OEM

>>>> to

>>>> Vista Ultimate 32 bit...this did work! However, it does not seem to

>>>> allow me

>>>> to upgrade the Home Preminum version 32 bit to a Ultimate 64 bit

>>>> version.

>>>>

>>>> It does start the installation, and stops at the screen which allows

>>>> you to

>>>> choose which hard drive the installation should be on. It tells me

>>>> that I

>>>> need to have a genuine Windows copy running on the hard disk. I do

>>>> have the

>>>> 32 bit version and it is validated.

>>>>

>>>> I am assuming that I need to purchase a full retail copy of Vista and

>>>> install the 64 bit version over my 32 OEM Home Preminum version in

>>>> order do

>>>> this type of upgrade. It seems a shame not to be able to use the

>>>> purchased

>>>> disk to upgrade to 64 bit...it wasn't cheap.

>>>> --

>>>> always learning

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Theo" wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Perhaps you could clarify a few things.

>>>>>

>>>>> Are you trying to install a x64 Retail version or an OEM

>>>>> version?

>>>>>

>>>>> Are you deleting the previous 32-bit installation before you

>>>>> attempt to install the 64-bit version?

>>>>>

>>>>> Mostly it's a lack of definitive information as to what is

>>>>> going on. Please be as detailed as you can.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Iplant wrote:

>>>>> > Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

>>>>> > ...running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to

>>>>> > Ultimate

>>>>> > 32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64

>>>>> > bit. Tried

>>>>> > to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to

>>>>> > do a clean

>>>>> > install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point

>>>>> > of

>>>>> > selecting drives.

>>>>> > There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key, I

>>>>> > need to

>>>>> > be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home

>>>>> > Prem...tried

>>>>> > again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine

>>>>> > valadition...same

>>>>> > error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or perhaps

>>>>> > ideas on

>>>>> > a work around?

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Thanks As always, Karen

>>>>> >

>>>>> > ...always learning

>>>>>

>>>

>>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: problems installing .64 bit

 

Further thought: I hope Windows 7 only comes out in one edition or at least

only one for consumers and one for businesses. Having both x86 and x64

editions complicates things enough.

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:055978DA-D608-4116-8DF4-11D8ABC94C77@microsoft.com...

> Yes it is. One has to keep x86 upgrade editions and x64 upgrade editions

> completely separated when discussing them.

>

> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:BC27C8E2-1D04-472A-93AA-E0713625500B@microsoft.com...

>> Colin:

>> The upgrade scenerio is still as confusing as it was before RTM. It's

>> surprising that there aren't more posts with problems. Have a great day.

>>

>> --

>> Dennis Pack

>> Vista Enterprise x64, Office 2007

>> AMD Phenom 2.3

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:5AFE09E6-4EC0-43D8-B713-A997E05EF6C0@microsoft.com...

>>> No, Jane. Vista x64 upgrade editions must start by booting from the dvd

>>> if the legacy Windows is x86. X64 upgrade editions do not work like x86

>>> upgrade editions which do require starting from the existing Windows

>>> desktop, whether that desktop is x86 or x64.

>>>

>>> The x64 Setup asks for the PK and if it is an upgrade edition PK then

>>> searches the system for a qualifying installed Windows. If it finds one

>>> it proceeds exactly as it would if it were a full edition PK. If you

>>> boot with an x64 dvd and enter an upgrade edition PK you will NOT be

>>> blocked by "The product key you entered requires you to install Windows

>>> from the existing Windows."

>>>

>>> That means that unlike the x86 upgrade editions, the x64 ones permit a

>>> true clean install. This is because the user has booted with the dvd

>>> and the disk tools are therefore available.

>>>

>>> A custom install is required unless the installed Windows is upgradeable

>>> by the new version. That means that if you have Vista Home Basic x64,

>>> Vista Home Premium x64, or Vista Business x64 installed and you are

>>> installing Vista Ultimate x64 the Upgrade option will be enabled too.

>>> Anything else and only Custom will be enabled.

>>>

>>> "Jane C" <janecolman@invalid.iinet.net.au> wrote in message

>>> news:DFE9F9FE-4FAD-4B57-BA0E-38868A1F3B77@microsoft.com...

>>>> Hi Karen,

>>>>

>>>> All upgrades (using upgrade version media) must be started from the

>>>> existing desktop, not by booting with the DVD. As you are upgrading

>>>> from a 32 bit to a 64 bit version, you will have to perform the "custom

>>>> install" option. This should give you the opportunity to either install

>>>> to a different drive/partition, or to wipe out and install over the

>>>> current installation.

>>>>

>>>> The current Windows version must be up and running so that the upgrade

>>>> can actually check that you are in compliance for the upgrade.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

>>>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)

>>>> MVP Windows Desktop Experience

>>>>

>>>> "Iplant" <Iplant@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:4205EC99-A667-4A92-844F-278CD8079271@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Sorry...the PC came with Vista Home Preminum 32 bit installed...that's

>>>>> what

>>>>> is loaded on the PC right now. I have purchased retail Upgrade Vista

>>>>> Ultimate disk that I wish to install.

>>>>>

>>>>> The version I wanted to install was 64 bit.

>>>>>

>>>>> In the past, I have used the 32 disk to upgrade this Home preminum OEM

>>>>> to

>>>>> Vista Ultimate 32 bit...this did work! However, it does not seem to

>>>>> allow me

>>>>> to upgrade the Home Preminum version 32 bit to a Ultimate 64 bit

>>>>> version.

>>>>>

>>>>> It does start the installation, and stops at the screen which allows

>>>>> you to

>>>>> choose which hard drive the installation should be on. It tells me

>>>>> that I

>>>>> need to have a genuine Windows copy running on the hard disk. I do

>>>>> have the

>>>>> 32 bit version and it is validated.

>>>>>

>>>>> I am assuming that I need to purchase a full retail copy of Vista and

>>>>> install the 64 bit version over my 32 OEM Home Preminum version in

>>>>> order do

>>>>> this type of upgrade. It seems a shame not to be able to use the

>>>>> purchased

>>>>> disk to upgrade to 64 bit...it wasn't cheap.

>>>>> --

>>>>> always learning

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Theo" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Perhaps you could clarify a few things.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Are you trying to install a x64 Retail version or an OEM

>>>>>> version?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Are you deleting the previous 32-bit installation before you

>>>>>> attempt to install the 64-bit version?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Mostly it's a lack of definitive information as to what is

>>>>>> going on. Please be as detailed as you can.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Iplant wrote:

>>>>>> > Hi all...I am not seeing an answer to my problem in this N/G

>>>>>> > ...running Vista Home Prem on quad core HP...I upgraded this OEM to

>>>>>> > Ultimate

>>>>>> > 32 bit...(worked great) and now would like to play around with 64

>>>>>> > bit. Tried

>>>>>> > to upgrade from Ultimate 32 bit...I was aware that I would need to

>>>>>> > do a clean

>>>>>> > install. The process started on the re-boot and froze at the point

>>>>>> > of

>>>>>> > selecting drives.

>>>>>> > There was a little error message saying if I want to use this key,

>>>>>> > I need to

>>>>>> > be running genuine Windows...I rebuilt the OS back to OEM Home

>>>>>> > Prem...tried

>>>>>> > again...same error...made sure I went out to get genuine

>>>>>> > valadition...same

>>>>>> > error...any suggestions as to what the problem might be? Or

>>>>>> > perhaps ideas on

>>>>>> > a work around?

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Thanks As always, Karen

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > ...always learning

>>>>>>

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