Pushing Buttons

[Guest Sid Elbow]

Something that's bothered me for years and I wondered if anyone could

shed some light:

 

Not infrequently when I use the mouse to push a screen "button", I'm

perhaps a bit sloppy, the button-push isn't seen and I have to do it

again more carefully ...

 

..... and yet, sloppy or not, I actually *see* the button depress. Thus

Windows sure as heck knows I pushed it so why doesn't it respond? It's

almost like pushing a button on the TV remote and not pressing hard

enough. Surely Windows buttons aren't pressure-sensitive.

 

 

This kind of reminds me of a problem I used to have in Win3X days where

a double-click wouldn't take. After messing with the double-click speed

to no avail I finally learned that there was a config file entry related

to the amount of movement of the mouse between clicks - and that fixed

the problem completely. I wondered if there was perhaps a registry entry

related to what I'm seeing here.

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Pushing Buttons

 

 

"Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message

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> Something that's bothered me for years and I wondered if anyone could shed

> some light:

>

> Not infrequently when I use the mouse to push a screen "button", I'm

> perhaps a bit sloppy, the button-push isn't seen and I have to do it again

> more carefully ...

>

> .... and yet, sloppy or not, I actually *see* the button depress. Thus

> Windows sure as heck knows I pushed it so why doesn't it respond? It's

> almost like pushing a button on the TV remote and not pressing hard

> enough. Surely Windows buttons aren't pressure-sensitive.

>

>

> This kind of reminds me of a problem I used to have in Win3X days where a

> double-click wouldn't take. After messing with the double-click speed to

> no avail I finally learned that there was a config file entry related to

> the amount of movement of the mouse between clicks - and that fixed the

> problem completely. I wondered if there was perhaps a registry entry

> related to what I'm seeing here.

 

Might be something as simple as a mouse with a bad

button contact. Use a different mouse for a few weeks -

they're cheap! It might also be that you move the mouse

slightly just before you press the button. Depending on

where you are, this won't work.

[Guest Sid Elbow]

Re: Pushing Buttons

 

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

> Might be something as simple as a mouse with a bad

> button contact. Use a different mouse for a few weeks -

> they're cheap!

 

No, it's happened on a couple of mice on this machine and on several

machines.

 

>It might also be that you move the mouse

> slightly just before you press the button. Depending on

> where you are, this won't work.

 

I think this is the most likely cause - my mouse technique. I think I

move the mouse slightly as I click. In Win3X (and perhaps Win9x) there

was a config entry that would make it more tolerant of this. I wondered

if something similar existed in the registry for Win2K but I've never

been able to track anything down doing internet searches.

 

(Plus, I still feel that if Windows responds by showing the button

depressing it's giving me feedback that it saw the button-push).

[Guest The Seabat]

Re: Pushing Buttons

 

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:51:50 -0500, Sid Elbow <here@there.com>

wrote:

>>Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

>>

>>> Might be something as simple as a mouse with a bad

>>> button contact. Use a different mouse for a few weeks -

>>> they're cheap!

>>

>>No, it's happened on a couple of mice on this machine and on several

>>machines.

>>

>>

>>>It might also be that you move the mouse

>>> slightly just before you press the button. Depending on

>>> where you are, this won't work.

>>

>>I think this is the most likely cause - my mouse technique. I think I

>>move the mouse slightly as I click. In Win3X (and perhaps Win9x) there

>>was a config entry that would make it more tolerant of this. I wondered

>>if something similar existed in the registry for Win2K but I've never

>>been able to track anything down doing internet searches.

>>

>>(Plus, I still feel that if Windows responds by showing the button

>>depressing it's giving me feedback that it saw the button-push).

 

 

Not completely sure about Win2K, but I think there was a window to

adjust the mouse in Tweakui v1.33 from Microsoft. Be sure and get

the 1.33 version, 'cause the 2.10.0.0 version is strictly for WinXP.

You can download a copy here:

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/tweakui

 

and from the annoyances.org web site:

<quote>

Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows 98, and Windows 95

 

1. Download TweakUI (version 1.33).

 

2. Unzip tweakui.zip using an unzip utility, such as WinZip, and

place the files in a new folder in a convenient location, such as

your desktop.

 

3. Right-click on the tweakui.inf file and select Install to

install it on your system.

 

4. To start TweakUI, double-click the TweakUI icon in Control

Panel.

 

Note: there's a bug in this installer (it's been there since the

very first release, except for the new version for Windows XP). If

it prompts you to insert a disk or specify the location of the

Tweakui files, just point to the folder containing the files you

just unzipped, and click Ok.

<\quote>

 

HTH

 

 

--

 

The Seabat

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[Guest Bob I]

Re: Pushing Buttons

 

If you "click and drag", but don't move far enough for the button to

relocate to a new destination, you will see the "button" depress and

nothing happens on release, except the "button" returns to the original

location. In other words, "by design".

 

Sid Elbow wrote:

> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

>

>> Might be something as simple as a mouse with a bad

>> button contact. Use a different mouse for a few weeks -

>> they're cheap!

>

>

> No, it's happened on a couple of mice on this machine and on several

> machines.

>

>

>> It might also be that you move the mouse

>> slightly just before you press the button. Depending on

>> where you are, this won't work.

>

>

> I think this is the most likely cause - my mouse technique. I think I

> move the mouse slightly as I click. In Win3X (and perhaps Win9x) there

> was a config entry that would make it more tolerant of this. I wondered

> if something similar existed in the registry for Win2K but I've never

> been able to track anything down doing internet searches.

>

> (Plus, I still feel that if Windows responds by showing the button

> depressing it's giving me feedback that it saw the button-push).

[Guest Sid Elbow]

Re: Pushing Buttons

 

The Seabat wrote:

> Not completely sure about Win2K, but I think there was a window to

> adjust the mouse in Tweakui v1.33 from Microsoft. Be sure and get

> the 1.33 version,

 

I have tweakui and had already looked in there. Doesn't seem anything

that would be related to this particular problem. There is a

double-click speed sensitivity setting but button-push involves only a

single click (I just used my previous win3 experience as an example of

the "hidden" settings in config files),

[Guest Sid Elbow]

Re: Pushing Buttons

 

Bob I wrote:

> If you "click and drag", but don't move far enough for the button to

> relocate to a new destination, you will see the "button" depress and

> nothing happens on release, except the "button" returns to the original

> location. In other words, "by design".

 

Yes, that seems logical. But in that case, it would also be logical to

have a sensitivity setting buried somewhere. Particularly as I'm not

deliberately dragging and, if I'm accidentally doing so, it's by a tiny

amount.

[Guest Bob I]

Re: Pushing Buttons

 

Perhaps, but just a guess.

 

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\DragHeight

and

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\DragWidth

 

 

 

Sid Elbow wrote:

> Bob I wrote:

>

>> If you "click and drag", but don't move far enough for the button to

>> relocate to a new destination, you will see the "button" depress and

>> nothing happens on release, except the "button" returns to the

>> original location. In other words, "by design".

>

>

> Yes, that seems logical. But in that case, it would also be logical to

> have a sensitivity setting buried somewhere. Particularly as I'm not

> deliberately dragging and, if I'm accidentally doing so, it's by a tiny

> amount.

[Guest Sid Elbow]

Re: Pushing Buttons

 

Bob I wrote:

> Perhaps, but just a guess.

>

> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\DragHeight

> and

> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\DragWidth

 

Thanks, Bob .... I'll play with them.

[Guest PA20Pilot]

Re: Pushing Buttons

 

Hi,

 

Any chance you're sliding the arrow off the button before releasing it?

Pushing buttons down doesn't activate the commands, releasing the mouse

does.

 

 

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[Guest Sid Elbow]

Re: Pushing Buttons

 

PA20Pilot wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Any chance you're sliding the arrow off the button before releasing it?

> Pushing buttons down doesn't activate the commands, releasing the mouse

> does.

>

>

> ---==X={}=X==---

>

> Jim Self

 

Well, I'm certainly not completely sliding off but it's quite likely

that I am moving the mouse a little before releasing in which case

BobI's suggestion may help. I've actually doubled the DragHeight and

DragWidth values and I'll run with it for a while and see if it improves.