Guest Sid Elbow Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 Something that's bothered me for years and I wondered if anyone could shed some light: Not infrequently when I use the mouse to push a screen "button", I'm perhaps a bit sloppy, the button-push isn't seen and I have to do it again more carefully ... ..... and yet, sloppy or not, I actually *see* the button depress. Thus Windows sure as heck knows I pushed it so why doesn't it respond? It's almost like pushing a button on the TV remote and not pressing hard enough. Surely Windows buttons aren't pressure-sensitive. This kind of reminds me of a problem I used to have in Win3X days where a double-click wouldn't take. After messing with the double-click speed to no avail I finally learned that there was a config file entry related to the amount of movement of the mouse between clicks - and that fixed the problem completely. I wondered if there was perhaps a registry entry related to what I'm seeing here.
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 Re: Pushing Buttons "Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message news:47a22a30$0$16227$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... > Something that's bothered me for years and I wondered if anyone could shed > some light: > > Not infrequently when I use the mouse to push a screen "button", I'm > perhaps a bit sloppy, the button-push isn't seen and I have to do it again > more carefully ... > > .... and yet, sloppy or not, I actually *see* the button depress. Thus > Windows sure as heck knows I pushed it so why doesn't it respond? It's > almost like pushing a button on the TV remote and not pressing hard > enough. Surely Windows buttons aren't pressure-sensitive. > > > This kind of reminds me of a problem I used to have in Win3X days where a > double-click wouldn't take. After messing with the double-click speed to > no avail I finally learned that there was a config file entry related to > the amount of movement of the mouse between clicks - and that fixed the > problem completely. I wondered if there was perhaps a registry entry > related to what I'm seeing here. Might be something as simple as a mouse with a bad button contact. Use a different mouse for a few weeks - they're cheap! It might also be that you move the mouse slightly just before you press the button. Depending on where you are, this won't work.
Guest Sid Elbow Posted January 31, 2008 Posted January 31, 2008 Re: Pushing Buttons Pegasus (MVP) wrote: > Might be something as simple as a mouse with a bad > button contact. Use a different mouse for a few weeks - > they're cheap! No, it's happened on a couple of mice on this machine and on several machines. >It might also be that you move the mouse > slightly just before you press the button. Depending on > where you are, this won't work. I think this is the most likely cause - my mouse technique. I think I move the mouse slightly as I click. In Win3X (and perhaps Win9x) there was a config entry that would make it more tolerant of this. I wondered if something similar existed in the registry for Win2K but I've never been able to track anything down doing internet searches. (Plus, I still feel that if Windows responds by showing the button depressing it's giving me feedback that it saw the button-push).
Guest The Seabat Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Re: Pushing Buttons On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:51:50 -0500, Sid Elbow <here@there.com> wrote: >>Pegasus (MVP) wrote: >> >>> Might be something as simple as a mouse with a bad >>> button contact. Use a different mouse for a few weeks - >>> they're cheap! >> >>No, it's happened on a couple of mice on this machine and on several >>machines. >> >> >>>It might also be that you move the mouse >>> slightly just before you press the button. Depending on >>> where you are, this won't work. >> >>I think this is the most likely cause - my mouse technique. I think I >>move the mouse slightly as I click. In Win3X (and perhaps Win9x) there >>was a config entry that would make it more tolerant of this. I wondered >>if something similar existed in the registry for Win2K but I've never >>been able to track anything down doing internet searches. >> >>(Plus, I still feel that if Windows responds by showing the button >>depressing it's giving me feedback that it saw the button-push). Not completely sure about Win2K, but I think there was a window to adjust the mouse in Tweakui v1.33 from Microsoft. Be sure and get the 1.33 version, 'cause the 2.10.0.0 version is strictly for WinXP. You can download a copy here: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/tweakui and from the annoyances.org web site: <quote> Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows 98, and Windows 95 1. Download TweakUI (version 1.33). 2. Unzip tweakui.zip using an unzip utility, such as WinZip, and place the files in a new folder in a convenient location, such as your desktop. 3. Right-click on the tweakui.inf file and select Install to install it on your system. 4. To start TweakUI, double-click the TweakUI icon in Control Panel. Note: there's a bug in this installer (it's been there since the very first release, except for the new version for Windows XP). If it prompts you to insert a disk or specify the location of the Tweakui files, just point to the folder containing the files you just unzipped, and click Ok. <\quote> HTH -- The Seabat GoogleGroups filtered with extreme prejudice.
Guest Bob I Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Re: Pushing Buttons If you "click and drag", but don't move far enough for the button to relocate to a new destination, you will see the "button" depress and nothing happens on release, except the "button" returns to the original location. In other words, "by design". Sid Elbow wrote: > Pegasus (MVP) wrote: > >> Might be something as simple as a mouse with a bad >> button contact. Use a different mouse for a few weeks - >> they're cheap! > > > No, it's happened on a couple of mice on this machine and on several > machines. > > >> It might also be that you move the mouse >> slightly just before you press the button. Depending on >> where you are, this won't work. > > > I think this is the most likely cause - my mouse technique. I think I > move the mouse slightly as I click. In Win3X (and perhaps Win9x) there > was a config entry that would make it more tolerant of this. I wondered > if something similar existed in the registry for Win2K but I've never > been able to track anything down doing internet searches. > > (Plus, I still feel that if Windows responds by showing the button > depressing it's giving me feedback that it saw the button-push).
Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Re: Pushing Buttons The Seabat wrote: > Not completely sure about Win2K, but I think there was a window to > adjust the mouse in Tweakui v1.33 from Microsoft. Be sure and get > the 1.33 version, I have tweakui and had already looked in there. Doesn't seem anything that would be related to this particular problem. There is a double-click speed sensitivity setting but button-push involves only a single click (I just used my previous win3 experience as an example of the "hidden" settings in config files),
Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Re: Pushing Buttons Bob I wrote: > If you "click and drag", but don't move far enough for the button to > relocate to a new destination, you will see the "button" depress and > nothing happens on release, except the "button" returns to the original > location. In other words, "by design". Yes, that seems logical. But in that case, it would also be logical to have a sensitivity setting buried somewhere. Particularly as I'm not deliberately dragging and, if I'm accidentally doing so, it's by a tiny amount.
Guest Bob I Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Re: Pushing Buttons Perhaps, but just a guess. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\DragHeight and HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\DragWidth Sid Elbow wrote: > Bob I wrote: > >> If you "click and drag", but don't move far enough for the button to >> relocate to a new destination, you will see the "button" depress and >> nothing happens on release, except the "button" returns to the >> original location. In other words, "by design". > > > Yes, that seems logical. But in that case, it would also be logical to > have a sensitivity setting buried somewhere. Particularly as I'm not > deliberately dragging and, if I'm accidentally doing so, it's by a tiny > amount.
Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 1, 2008 Posted February 1, 2008 Re: Pushing Buttons Bob I wrote: > Perhaps, but just a guess. > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\DragHeight > and > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\DragWidth Thanks, Bob .... I'll play with them.
Guest PA20Pilot Posted February 2, 2008 Posted February 2, 2008 Re: Pushing Buttons Hi, Any chance you're sliding the arrow off the button before releasing it? Pushing buttons down doesn't activate the commands, releasing the mouse does. ---==X={}=X==--- Jim Self AVIATION ANIMATION, the internet's largest depository. http://avanimation.avsupport.com Your only internet source for spiral staircase plans. http://jself.com/stair/Stair.htm Experimental Aircraft Association #140897 EAA Technical Counselor #4562
Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 2, 2008 Posted February 2, 2008 Re: Pushing Buttons PA20Pilot wrote: > Hi, > > Any chance you're sliding the arrow off the button before releasing it? > Pushing buttons down doesn't activate the commands, releasing the mouse > does. > > > ---==X={}=X==--- > > Jim Self Well, I'm certainly not completely sliding off but it's quite likely that I am moving the mouse a little before releasing in which case BobI's suggestion may help. I've actually doubled the DragHeight and DragWidth values and I'll run with it for a while and see if it improves.
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