Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

[Guest Don]

Hey gang,

 

I am about to order Vista Ultimate, and plan on installing the 64 bit

version and dual booting with XP Pro. I will also get another sata hard

drive, to dedicate to the 64 bit Vista install.

 

I have read on some forums, where 64 bit Vista may need a certain hotfix

from Microsoft, to be able to run with 4gb of ram installed. Is this pretty

much the case all around, for those with 4gb of ram? I have seen where it is

recommended, when installing 64 bit Vista on a system with 4gb of ram, to

remove 2gb, install Vista 64 bit, then get the hotfix and install it, then

add the other 2gb of ram.

 

Is this what I should plan on doing, before even attempting to install 64

bit Vista?

 

Thanks for any feedback on this,

 

 

 

 

 

--

Don

 

EVGA 780i MB

Intel Core2 Duo E6600@ 3.24 ghz

Zalman 9700 NT heatsink/fan

BFG 8800 GTS 640 mb

CoolerMaster 830 Evolution Case

4 gb Corsair Dominator PC8500 DDR2

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

 

It depends on your mobo. There are a lot of reports of problems running

four dimms of pc6400 ram, whether 4x1GB or 4x2GB on consumer mobos. It

isn't so much the amount of ram as the number of dimm slots filled.

 

A common resolution is not to use pc6400 or reduce the dram speed to 667.

Mobos with nVidia chipsets are mentioned most often. Nforce4, 650i, and

680i are ones I know about. The problem seems to be a combination of

factors that overload the memory controller at 800 with all four dimm slots

filled. You don't give any specifics of your hardware so that's about all I

can tell you. By the way, the problem isn't confined to Vista x64. It also

exists with XP Pro x64.

 

"Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

news:eSTVtuRcIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Hey gang,

>

> I am about to order Vista Ultimate, and plan on installing the 64 bit

> version and dual booting with XP Pro. I will also get another sata hard

> drive, to dedicate to the 64 bit Vista install.

>

> I have read on some forums, where 64 bit Vista may need a certain hotfix

> from Microsoft, to be able to run with 4gb of ram installed. Is this

> pretty much the case all around, for those with 4gb of ram? I have seen

> where it is recommended, when installing 64 bit Vista on a system with 4gb

> of ram, to remove 2gb, install Vista 64 bit, then get the hotfix and

> install it, then add the other 2gb of ram.

>

> Is this what I should plan on doing, before even attempting to install 64

> bit Vista?

>

> Thanks for any feedback on this,

>

>

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

> EVGA 780i MB

> Intel Core2 Duo E6600@ 3.24 ghz

> Zalman 9700 NT heatsink/fan

> BFG 8800 GTS 640 mb

> CoolerMaster 830 Evolution Case

> 4 gb Corsair Dominator PC8500 DDR2

>

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

 

In addition to Colin's comments, there have been sporadic reports of some

systems having issues with 4 GB exactly. For those systems, you pull the two

DIMMs, install, and re-install the DIMMs. You don't need the hotfix at that

point in most cases. But certainly not all systems have the problem, so

don't worry unless you do.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

news:eSTVtuRcIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Hey gang,

>

> I am about to order Vista Ultimate, and plan on installing the 64 bit

> version and dual booting with XP Pro. I will also get another sata hard

> drive, to dedicate to the 64 bit Vista install.

>

> I have read on some forums, where 64 bit Vista may need a certain hotfix

> from Microsoft, to be able to run with 4gb of ram installed. Is this

> pretty much the case all around, for those with 4gb of ram? I have seen

> where it is recommended, when installing 64 bit Vista on a system with 4gb

> of ram, to remove 2gb, install Vista 64 bit, then get the hotfix and

> install it, then add the other 2gb of ram.

>

> Is this what I should plan on doing, before even attempting to install 64

> bit Vista?

>

> Thanks for any feedback on this,

>

>

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

> EVGA 780i MB

> Intel Core2 Duo E6600@ 3.24 ghz

> Zalman 9700 NT heatsink/fan

> BFG 8800 GTS 640 mb

> CoolerMaster 830 Evolution Case

> 4 gb Corsair Dominator PC8500 DDR2

>

[Guest Don]

Re: Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

 

 

 

Thanks Colin,

 

My system is:

 

EVGA 780i mb

4 gb ( 4 x 1gb), Corsair Dominator PC8500 ram, running at 1066 mhz

Intel Core2 Duo E6600

BFG 8800 GTS 640mb video card

Creative X-Fi Extreme Music soundcard

XP Pro 32 bit

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:7AD1CB57-64FB-47F1-BC0A-D2D5771DE028@microsoft.com...

> It depends on your mobo. There are a lot of reports of problems running

> four dimms of pc6400 ram, whether 4x1GB or 4x2GB on consumer mobos. It

> isn't so much the amount of ram as the number of dimm slots filled.

>

> A common resolution is not to use pc6400 or reduce the dram speed to 667.

> Mobos with nVidia chipsets are mentioned most often. Nforce4, 650i, and

> 680i are ones I know about. The problem seems to be a combination of

> factors that overload the memory controller at 800 with all four dimm

> slots filled. You don't give any specifics of your hardware so that's

> about all I can tell you. By the way, the problem isn't confined to Vista

> x64. It also exists with XP Pro x64.

>

> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:eSTVtuRcIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Hey gang,

>>

>> I am about to order Vista Ultimate, and plan on installing the 64 bit

>> version and dual booting with XP Pro. I will also get another sata hard

>> drive, to dedicate to the 64 bit Vista install.

>>

>> I have read on some forums, where 64 bit Vista may need a certain hotfix

>> from Microsoft, to be able to run with 4gb of ram installed. Is this

>> pretty much the case all around, for those with 4gb of ram? I have seen

>> where it is recommended, when installing 64 bit Vista on a system with

>> 4gb of ram, to remove 2gb, install Vista 64 bit, then get the hotfix and

>> install it, then add the other 2gb of ram.

>>

>> Is this what I should plan on doing, before even attempting to install 64

>> bit Vista?

>>

>> Thanks for any feedback on this,

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>> EVGA 780i MB

>> Intel Core2 Duo E6600@ 3.24 ghz

>> Zalman 9700 NT heatsink/fan

>> BFG 8800 GTS 640 mb

>> CoolerMaster 830 Evolution Case

>> 4 gb Corsair Dominator PC8500 DDR2

>>

>

[Guest Don]

Re: Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

 

Thanks Charlie, when I get Vista 64 bit, I will go ahead and try and install

as my system is and see what happens.

 

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

 

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:3001D577-B1A8-4F27-B162-8E82CA3E7427@microsoft.com...

> In addition to Colin's comments, there have been sporadic reports of some

> systems having issues with 4 GB exactly. For those systems, you pull the

> two DIMMs, install, and re-install the DIMMs. You don't need the hotfix at

> that point in most cases. But certainly not all systems have the problem,

> so don't worry unless you do.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

>

> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:eSTVtuRcIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Hey gang,

>>

>> I am about to order Vista Ultimate, and plan on installing the 64 bit

>> version and dual booting with XP Pro. I will also get another sata hard

>> drive, to dedicate to the 64 bit Vista install.

>>

>> I have read on some forums, where 64 bit Vista may need a certain hotfix

>> from Microsoft, to be able to run with 4gb of ram installed. Is this

>> pretty much the case all around, for those with 4gb of ram? I have seen

>> where it is recommended, when installing 64 bit Vista on a system with

>> 4gb of ram, to remove 2gb, install Vista 64 bit, then get the hotfix and

>> install it, then add the other 2gb of ram.

>>

>> Is this what I should plan on doing, before even attempting to install 64

>> bit Vista?

>>

>> Thanks for any feedback on this,

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>> EVGA 780i MB

>> Intel Core2 Duo E6600@ 3.24 ghz

>> Zalman 9700 NT heatsink/fan

>> BFG 8800 GTS 640 mb

>> CoolerMaster 830 Evolution Case

>> 4 gb Corsair Dominator PC8500 DDR2

>>

>

[Guest therese1225]

Re: Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

 

Hi Don,

Just letting you know I am running 64 bit Vista home premium with 8 gb of

ram (4X2gb). No major problems. I went to the Kingston site and they checked

my system for ram compatibility. Ordered 8Gb's for about $200. The price of

some ram has come down. The only thing is that the systems boots up slower

than it used to, but once booted up runs good. I have a choice of running 64

bit or 32 bit IE7; I run the 32 bit version. I've been using the 64 bit for

about a year now.

 

Asus P5N32-SLI Deluxe

Pentium D 2.8ghz

BFG 8800 GT OC 512MB GDDR3

8 Gb (4X2) Kingston PC2 5300 667Mhz Value Ram

 

"Don" wrote:

> Thanks Charlie, when I get Vista 64 bit, I will go ahead and try and install

> as my system is and see what happens.

>

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

>

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:3001D577-B1A8-4F27-B162-8E82CA3E7427@microsoft.com...

> > In addition to Colin's comments, there have been sporadic reports of some

> > systems having issues with 4 GB exactly. For those systems, you pull the

> > two DIMMs, install, and re-install the DIMMs. You don't need the hotfix at

> > that point in most cases. But certainly not all systems have the problem,

> > so don't worry unless you do.

> >

> > --

> > Charlie.

> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >

> >

> > "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:eSTVtuRcIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> Hey gang,

> >>

> >> I am about to order Vista Ultimate, and plan on installing the 64 bit

> >> version and dual booting with XP Pro. I will also get another sata hard

> >> drive, to dedicate to the 64 bit Vista install.

> >>

> >> I have read on some forums, where 64 bit Vista may need a certain hotfix

> >> from Microsoft, to be able to run with 4gb of ram installed. Is this

> >> pretty much the case all around, for those with 4gb of ram? I have seen

> >> where it is recommended, when installing 64 bit Vista on a system with

> >> 4gb of ram, to remove 2gb, install Vista 64 bit, then get the hotfix and

> >> install it, then add the other 2gb of ram.

> >>

> >> Is this what I should plan on doing, before even attempting to install 64

> >> bit Vista?

> >>

> >> Thanks for any feedback on this,

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> --

> >> Don

> >>

> >> EVGA 780i MB

> >> Intel Core2 Duo E6600@ 3.24 ghz

> >> Zalman 9700 NT heatsink/fan

> >> BFG 8800 GTS 640 mb

> >> CoolerMaster 830 Evolution Case

> >> 4 gb Corsair Dominator PC8500 DDR2

> >>

> >

>

>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

 

That's because you are using pc5300. It is pc6400 that is problematic on

the Asus P5N32 SLI Deluxe. I have that mobo in one of my machines and I can

validate that pc6400 causes problems when all dimm slots are filled but

pc5300 is not a problem. The test reports on various ram on the Asus site

for this mobo do list a lot of compatible pc6400 but the test reports on all

the ram never gives any tests with more than 2GB. As a result I bought

pc6400 not realizing the subleties of the test reports and wound up having

to replace with pc5300 in the end in order to max it. It is a good board in

every other respect but like so many consumer mobos the subleties are

sometimes maddening.

 

"therese1225" <therese1225@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7BCBE312-464F-41C0-B22E-F455FB70CCDB@microsoft.com...

> Hi Don,

> Just letting you know I am running 64 bit Vista home premium with 8 gb of

> ram (4X2gb). No major problems. I went to the Kingston site and they

> checked

> my system for ram compatibility. Ordered 8Gb's for about $200. The price

> of

> some ram has come down. The only thing is that the systems boots up slower

> than it used to, but once booted up runs good. I have a choice of running

> 64

> bit or 32 bit IE7; I run the 32 bit version. I've been using the 64 bit

> for

> about a year now.

>

> Asus P5N32-SLI Deluxe

> Pentium D 2.8ghz

> BFG 8800 GT OC 512MB GDDR3

> 8 Gb (4X2) Kingston PC2 5300 667Mhz Value Ram

>

> "Don" wrote:

>

>> Thanks Charlie, when I get Vista 64 bit, I will go ahead and try and

>> install

>> as my system is and see what happens.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>>

>>

>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

>> news:3001D577-B1A8-4F27-B162-8E82CA3E7427@microsoft.com...

>> > In addition to Colin's comments, there have been sporadic reports of

>> > some

>> > systems having issues with 4 GB exactly. For those systems, you pull

>> > the

>> > two DIMMs, install, and re-install the DIMMs. You don't need the hotfix

>> > at

>> > that point in most cases. But certainly not all systems have the

>> > problem,

>> > so don't worry unless you do.

>> >

>> > --

>> > Charlie.

>> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >

>> >

>> > "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>> > news:eSTVtuRcIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> Hey gang,

>> >>

>> >> I am about to order Vista Ultimate, and plan on installing the 64 bit

>> >> version and dual booting with XP Pro. I will also get another sata

>> >> hard

>> >> drive, to dedicate to the 64 bit Vista install.

>> >>

>> >> I have read on some forums, where 64 bit Vista may need a certain

>> >> hotfix

>> >> from Microsoft, to be able to run with 4gb of ram installed. Is this

>> >> pretty much the case all around, for those with 4gb of ram? I have

>> >> seen

>> >> where it is recommended, when installing 64 bit Vista on a system with

>> >> 4gb of ram, to remove 2gb, install Vista 64 bit, then get the hotfix

>> >> and

>> >> install it, then add the other 2gb of ram.

>> >>

>> >> Is this what I should plan on doing, before even attempting to install

>> >> 64

>> >> bit Vista?

>> >>

>> >> Thanks for any feedback on this,

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Don

>> >>

>> >> EVGA 780i MB

>> >> Intel Core2 Duo E6600@ 3.24 ghz

>> >> Zalman 9700 NT heatsink/fan

>> >> BFG 8800 GTS 640 mb

>> >> CoolerMaster 830 Evolution Case

>> >> 4 gb Corsair Dominator PC8500 DDR2

>> >>

>> >

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Tony Harding]

Re: Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

 

Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> It depends on your mobo. There are a lot of reports of problems running

> four dimms of pc6400 ram, whether 4x1GB or 4x2GB on consumer mobos. It

> isn't so much the amount of ram as the number of dimm slots filled.

>

> A common resolution is not to use pc6400 or reduce the dram speed to

> 667. Mobos with nVidia chipsets are mentioned most often. Nforce4,

> 650i, and 680i are ones I know about. The problem seems to be a

> combination of factors that overload the memory controller at 800 with

> all four dimm slots filled. You don't give any specifics of your

> hardware so that's about all I can tell you. By the way, the problem

> isn't confined to Vista x64. It also exists with XP Pro x64.

 

Is this the likely reason for a nasty problem I had with XP Pro x64 over

the weekend, namely I bought 8GB of PC6400 Corsair RAM (4 x 2GB DIMMs)

and installed x64. x64 saw my C:\ & D:\ drives just fine, but showed

"unknown" (instead of "basic") for the E:\ & F:\ drives and insisted

they weren't initialized. It's a Dell mobo (XPS720) with the nVidia 680i

SLI chipset. Video card is an nVidia GeForce 7600GS. My first thought

was that I needed to update the SATA drivers to Dell's newest version,

which took some doing. However, after it was done and I verified the

update's success by going into Device Manager and displaying the driver

details for the SATA/RAID controllers (although I haven't defined any

RAID arrays). Absolutely no difference at all, so as a last resort I

pulled the 8GB of PC6400 RAM and reinstalled the 4GB of PC8500 RAM -

everything was perfect, no OS reinstall required. Should I be

researching the nVidia site?

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

 

I had issues with a board with an nVidia chipset when I tried to max the ram

with pc6400 under XP Pro x64 so I can believe you might have had issues from

a similar cause but slightly different symtoms.

 

As to why apparently faster ram works OK, maybe it depends on what speed the

8500 really is running at when you fill all the dimm slots.

 

"Tony Harding" <ToHard@nowhere.org> wrote in message

news:47b92f1d$0$15158$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>> It depends on your mobo. There are a lot of reports of problems running

>> four dimms of pc6400 ram, whether 4x1GB or 4x2GB on consumer mobos. It

>> isn't so much the amount of ram as the number of dimm slots filled.

>>

>> A common resolution is not to use pc6400 or reduce the dram speed to 667.

>> Mobos with nVidia chipsets are mentioned most often. Nforce4, 650i, and

>> 680i are ones I know about. The problem seems to be a combination of

>> factors that overload the memory controller at 800 with all four dimm

>> slots filled. You don't give any specifics of your hardware so that's

>> about all I can tell you. By the way, the problem isn't confined to

>> Vista x64. It also exists with XP Pro x64.

>

> Is this the likely reason for a nasty problem I had with XP Pro x64 over

> the weekend, namely I bought 8GB of PC6400 Corsair RAM (4 x 2GB DIMMs) and

> installed x64. x64 saw my C:\ & D:\ drives just fine, but showed "unknown"

> (instead of "basic") for the E:\ & F:\ drives and insisted they weren't

> initialized. It's a Dell mobo (XPS720) with the nVidia 680i SLI chipset.

> Video card is an nVidia GeForce 7600GS. My first thought was that I needed

> to update the SATA drivers to Dell's newest version, which took some

> doing. However, after it was done and I verified the update's success by

> going into Device Manager and displaying the driver details for the

> SATA/RAID controllers (although I haven't defined any RAID arrays).

> Absolutely no difference at all, so as a last resort I pulled the 8GB of

> PC6400 RAM and reinstalled the 4GB of PC8500 RAM - everything was perfect,

> no OS reinstall required. Should I be researching the nVidia site?

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

 

I just updated my BIOS (Asus M2N32-SLI - nv590 chipset) from '903' to

'1603' (there are at least five updates in between), sometime after 903 they

listed memory timing adjustments as a feature. I belive this BIOS (Award, I

think?) covers many of the newer boards from Asus and although I am only

running 2GB, and never had any trouble of this kind, you might check for an

update whatever board it is you have. I think that few boards were delivered

with complete support for 800 Mhz chips, even a short while ago, since

latency was still an issue just last year and BIOS's are rarely less than

six months old.

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:5140F1CA-21B4-454C-B2DF-4A2BA4BC4BFA@microsoft.com...

>I had issues with a board with an nVidia chipset when I tried to max the

>ram with pc6400 under XP Pro x64 so I can believe you might have had issues

>from a similar cause but slightly different symtoms.

>

> As to why apparently faster ram works OK, maybe it depends on what speed

> the 8500 really is running at when you fill all the dimm slots.

>

> "Tony Harding" <ToHard@nowhere.org> wrote in message

> news:47b92f1d$0$15158$607ed4bc@cv.net...

>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>> It depends on your mobo. There are a lot of reports of problems running

>>> four dimms of pc6400 ram, whether 4x1GB or 4x2GB on consumer mobos. It

>>> isn't so much the amount of ram as the number of dimm slots filled.

>>>

>>> A common resolution is not to use pc6400 or reduce the dram speed to

>>> 667. Mobos with nVidia chipsets are mentioned most often. Nforce4,

>>> 650i, and 680i are ones I know about. The problem seems to be a

>>> combination of factors that overload the memory controller at 800 with

>>> all four dimm slots filled. You don't give any specifics of your

>>> hardware so that's about all I can tell you. By the way, the problem

>>> isn't confined to Vista x64. It also exists with XP Pro x64.

>>

>> Is this the likely reason for a nasty problem I had with XP Pro x64 over

>> the weekend, namely I bought 8GB of PC6400 Corsair RAM (4 x 2GB DIMMs)

>> and installed x64. x64 saw my C:\ & D:\ drives just fine, but showed

>> "unknown" (instead of "basic") for the E:\ & F:\ drives and insisted they

>> weren't initialized. It's a Dell mobo (XPS720) with the nVidia 680i SLI

>> chipset. Video card is an nVidia GeForce 7600GS. My first thought was

>> that I needed to update the SATA drivers to Dell's newest version, which

>> took some doing. However, after it was done and I verified the update's

>> success by going into Device Manager and displaying the driver details

>> for the SATA/RAID controllers (although I haven't defined any RAID

>> arrays). Absolutely no difference at all, so as a last resort I pulled

>> the 8GB of PC6400 RAM and reinstalled the 4GB of PC8500 RAM - everything

>> was perfect, no OS reinstall required. Should I be researching the nVidia

>> site?

>

[Guest Don]

Re: Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

 

Thanks for the info, good to know!

 

 

 

--

Don

 

EVGA 780i MB

Intel Core2 Duo E6600@ 3.24 ghz

Zalman 9700 NT heatsink/fan

BFG 8800 GTS 640 mb

CoolerMaster 830 Evolution Case

4 gb Corsair Dominator PC8500 DDR2

 

 

"therese1225" <therese1225@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7BCBE312-464F-41C0-B22E-F455FB70CCDB@microsoft.com...

> Hi Don,

> Just letting you know I am running 64 bit Vista home premium with 8 gb of

> ram (4X2gb). No major problems. I went to the Kingston site and they

> checked

> my system for ram compatibility. Ordered 8Gb's for about $200. The price

> of

> some ram has come down. The only thing is that the systems boots up slower

> than it used to, but once booted up runs good. I have a choice of running

> 64

> bit or 32 bit IE7; I run the 32 bit version. I've been using the 64 bit

> for

> about a year now.

>

> Asus P5N32-SLI Deluxe

> Pentium D 2.8ghz

> BFG 8800 GT OC 512MB GDDR3

> 8 Gb (4X2) Kingston PC2 5300 667Mhz Value Ram

>

> "Don" wrote:

>

>> Thanks Charlie, when I get Vista 64 bit, I will go ahead and try and

>> install

>> as my system is and see what happens.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>>

>>

>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

>> news:3001D577-B1A8-4F27-B162-8E82CA3E7427@microsoft.com...

>> > In addition to Colin's comments, there have been sporadic reports of

>> > some

>> > systems having issues with 4 GB exactly. For those systems, you pull

>> > the

>> > two DIMMs, install, and re-install the DIMMs. You don't need the hotfix

>> > at

>> > that point in most cases. But certainly not all systems have the

>> > problem,

>> > so don't worry unless you do.

>> >

>> > --

>> > Charlie.

>> > http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >

>> >

>> > "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>> > news:eSTVtuRcIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> Hey gang,

>> >>

>> >> I am about to order Vista Ultimate, and plan on installing the 64 bit

>> >> version and dual booting with XP Pro. I will also get another sata

>> >> hard

>> >> drive, to dedicate to the 64 bit Vista install.

>> >>

>> >> I have read on some forums, where 64 bit Vista may need a certain

>> >> hotfix

>> >> from Microsoft, to be able to run with 4gb of ram installed. Is this

>> >> pretty much the case all around, for those with 4gb of ram? I have

>> >> seen

>> >> where it is recommended, when installing 64 bit Vista on a system with

>> >> 4gb of ram, to remove 2gb, install Vista 64 bit, then get the hotfix

>> >> and

>> >> install it, then add the other 2gb of ram.

>> >>

>> >> Is this what I should plan on doing, before even attempting to install

>> >> 64

>> >> bit Vista?

>> >>

>> >> Thanks for any feedback on this,

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Don

>> >>

>> >> EVGA 780i MB

>> >> Intel Core2 Duo E6600@ 3.24 ghz

>> >> Zalman 9700 NT heatsink/fan

>> >> BFG 8800 GTS 640 mb

>> >> CoolerMaster 830 Evolution Case

>> >> 4 gb Corsair Dominator PC8500 DDR2

>> >>

>> >

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Tony Harding]

Re: Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

 

Tony Sperling wrote:

> I just updated my BIOS (Asus M2N32-SLI - nv590 chipset) from '903' to

> '1603' (there are at least five updates in between), sometime after 903 they

> listed memory timing adjustments as a feature. I belive this BIOS (Award, I

> think?) covers many of the newer boards from Asus and although I am only

> running 2GB, and never had any trouble of this kind, you might check for an

> update whatever board it is you have. I think that few boards were delivered

> with complete support for 800 Mhz chips, even a short while ago, since

> latency was still an issue just last year and BIOS's are rarely less than

> six months old.

 

Good point (i.e., BIOS). For the record, I'm running Dell's latest BIOS

for the XPS720, ver. A05, dated 01/25/2008.

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Question on installing Vista 64 bit with 4gb of ram?

 

This is a case where the latest BIOS version is not always the right BIOS

version. Usually, but not always. You just have to read through the

descriptions of the versions and use the forum for your board on the

manufacturer's website. The aggregated experience of the users on those

forums is fantastic.

 

"Tony Harding" <ToHard@nowhere.org> wrote in message

news:47b9c093$0$14639$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Tony Sperling wrote:

>> I just updated my BIOS (Asus M2N32-SLI - nv590 chipset) from '903' to

>> '1603' (there are at least five updates in between), sometime after 903

>> they listed memory timing adjustments as a feature. I belive this BIOS

>> (Award, I think?) covers many of the newer boards from Asus and although

>> I am only running 2GB, and never had any trouble of this kind, you might

>> check for an update whatever board it is you have. I think that few

>> boards were delivered with complete support for 800 Mhz chips, even a

>> short while ago, since latency was still an issue just last year and

>> BIOS's are rarely less than six months old.

>

> Good point (i.e., BIOS). For the record, I'm running Dell's latest BIOS

> for the XPS720, ver. A05, dated 01/25/2008.