Guest muzikhed Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 I had a W2k sp4 OS which crashed - failed to boot after attempting to fix Adobe program. With help from Dell I've wiped the c: clean & reformatted. I had much trouble getting it to boot at all. Would not complete the Win2K setup from CDrom. Finally I partitioned my Heardisk0 into 2 virtual drives: C: and H: and I set H: as the systemroot. Then I was able to get through the Win2k Setup sucessfully. Using Windows Update - I sucessfully installed Internet Explorer, but SP4 pack fails repeatedly. svcpack.log says: "Apply failed: c: <temp>\download\ntdll._p on h:\winnt\ntdll to get c:\<temp>\ntdll..dll" and repeats a similar message for several dowen .dll files. scvpack.log then notes that it displayed the failure message to me (the user):Message displayed to the user: Service Pack 4 Setup was unable to download all the Service Pack 4 files necessary for installation. If this error persists after you have clicked Retry several times, go to the Windows 2000 Service Pack Web site and select "P *** I'd truly appreciate any help.
Guest philo Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 Re: Can't upgrade 2000sp2 to sp4 "muzikhed" <muzikhed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C0611388-F786-46E9-B089-251A867B1A4B@microsoft.com... > I had a W2k sp4 OS which crashed - failed to boot after attempting to fix > Adobe program. With help from Dell I've wiped the c: clean & reformatted. I > had much trouble getting it to boot at all. Would not complete the Win2K > setup from CDrom. Finally I partitioned my Heardisk0 into 2 virtual drives: > C: and H: and I set H: as the systemroot. Then I was able to get through > the Win2k Setup sucessfully. > Using Windows Update - I sucessfully installed Internet Explorer, but SP4 > pack fails repeatedly. svcpack.log says: "Apply failed: c: > <temp>\download\ntdll._p on h:\winnt\ntdll to get c:\<temp>\ntdll..dll" and > repeats a similar message for several dowen .dll files. scvpack.log then > notes that it displayed the failure message to me (the user):Message > displayed to the user: Service Pack 4 Setup was unable to download all the > Service Pack 4 files necessary for installation. > > If this error persists after you have clicked Retry several times, go to the > Windows 2000 Service Pack Web site and select "P > *** > > I'd truly appreciate any help. > > It looks like you may have a hardware problem. Having to divide-up your drive is not at all normal. Go to the website of your HD manufacturer and download their diagnostic utility and test the drive. If the drive is bad, replace it. If the drive checks out ok...then do a RAM test http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
Guest muzikhed Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 Re: Can't upgrade 2000sp2 to sp4 "philo" wrote: > > "muzikhed" <muzikhed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:C0611388-F786-46E9-B089-251A867B1A4B@microsoft.com... > > I had a W2k sp4 OS which crashed - failed to boot after attempting to fix > > Adobe program. With help from Dell I've wiped the c: clean & reformatted. > I > > had much trouble getting it to boot at all. Would not complete the Win2K > > setup from CDrom. Finally I partitioned my Heardisk0 into 2 virtual > drives: > > C: and H: and I set H: as the systemroot. Then I was able to get > through > > the Win2k Setup sucessfully. > > Using Windows Update - I sucessfully installed Internet Explorer, but SP4 > > pack fails repeatedly. svcpack.log says: "Apply failed: c: > > <temp>\download\ntdll._p on h:\winnt\ntdll to get c:\<temp>\ntdll..dll" > and > > repeats a similar message for several dowen .dll files. scvpack.log then > > notes that it displayed the failure message to me (the user):Message > > displayed to the user: Service Pack 4 Setup was unable to download all the > > Service Pack 4 files necessary for installation. > > > > If this error persists after you have clicked Retry several times, go to > the > > Windows 2000 Service Pack Web site and select "P > > *** > > > > I'd truly appreciate any help. > > > > > > It looks like you may have a hardware problem. > Having to divide-up your drive is not at all normal. > > Go to the website of your HD manufacturer and download their diagnostic > utility > and test the drive. > If the drive is bad, replace it. > > If the drive checks out ok...then do a RAM test > > http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp > > > Thanks for the reply! Interesting. I was working with Dell help on the phone, because I could not get Windows to boot, Emergengy Repair Disk failed and then All attempts to setup Windows from scratch were failing. The 1st guy at Dell had me reformat the c: but that didn't work - I still couldn't Install Windows. Of course, I fooled around with Repair Console commands like map, fixboot, and fixmbr to try to get back in - no success. Days later, another guy at Dell led me through a test of my lowest hard drive. It had sector errors, he thought too many, and recommended I buy a new hard drive. I have a Dell Workstation 530 with Intel dual Xeon processors. My 3 internal hard drives are all SCSI. After one false try on the SCSI buy (wrong pin format) I was ordering another & also continuing to try to boot & run setup. My guess was that I had an incorrect or corrupted boot sector, but the help I was getting at the time was not adequate - Win 2000 not being supported anymore at Dell. On my own, I tried different variations at re-formatting and re-partitioning and re-fixing the boot record with my existing SCSI drive in place. Finally I got through the boot up sucessfully and was able to complete my Win2k(sp2) setup, and then I re-installed the chip, Video, ATa, & Audio Drivers, and then I sucessfully setup other applications compatible with W2kSp2 - notably the (older,sp2 compatible) MS Internet Explorer version, and other sp2 compatible applications, Adobe, and Itunes for example. All that has been working very well, which has been increasing my belief that the hardware may be OK after all. I may be wrong, but is it likely that all these other apps would load & run, but the Winn2k SP2>SP4 upgrade should fail on a hardware error? So, I can see why you sniffed out a hardware issue because I was thinking about a possible hardware problem when I partitioned the drive as I did. But my re-partitioning of harddisk0 into C: and also an H: partition may just be an artifact of my shotgun approach. I THINK I got "in" after I applied the Fixmbr command with the correct parameter. I THINK I had previously tried fixmbr c:, and on my sucessful attempt I tried something more like fixmbr \Device\Harddisk0\Partition0 I ended up setting h: (the upper partition of my lowest harddisk) as the systemroot, and, while that's unusual, I've been able to sucessfully install lost of apps to the h: with no problem. So, I'd be glad to go back and re-do my partitions and re-install evereything if I had confidence that that's absolutely required for W2kSP4 installation. But unfortunately, I've had weak help so far, and I'm not inclined to spend $150 and a week on new hardware, or several days re-installing all my currently working apps if I don't need to. The RAM test you recommended is for Pentium & Celeron, aparently not Xeon processor. After my long story, do you still think hardware is the problem? Any other useful thoughts are so very welcome. I really need help. Everything's great except I need SP4 so I can - Use more current applications - (esp for my enduser app --- Matlab !) - upgrade to XP or Vista before it's too late!
Guest muzikhed Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 Re: Can't upgrade 2000sp2 to sp4 "philo" wrote: > > "muzikhed" <muzikhed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:C0611388-F786-46E9-B089-251A867B1A4B@microsoft.com... > > I had a W2k sp4 OS which crashed - failed to boot after attempting to fix > > Adobe program. With help from Dell I've wiped the c: clean & reformatted. > I > > had much trouble getting it to boot at all. Would not complete the Win2K > > setup from CDrom. Finally I partitioned my Heardisk0 into 2 virtual > drives: > > C: and H: and I set H: as the systemroot. Then I was able to get > through > > the Win2k Setup sucessfully. > > Using Windows Update - I sucessfully installed Internet Explorer, but SP4 > > pack fails repeatedly. svcpack.log says: "Apply failed: c: > > <temp>\download\ntdll._p on h:\winnt\ntdll to get c:\<temp>\ntdll..dll" > and > > repeats a similar message for several dowen .dll files. scvpack.log then > > notes that it displayed the failure message to me (the user):Message > > displayed to the user: Service Pack 4 Setup was unable to download all the > > Service Pack 4 files necessary for installation. > > > > If this error persists after you have clicked Retry several times, go to > the > > Windows 2000 Service Pack Web site and select "P > > *** > > > > I'd truly appreciate any help. > > > > > > It looks like you may have a hardware problem. > Having to divide-up your drive is not at all normal. > > Go to the website of your HD manufacturer and download their diagnostic > utility > and test the drive. > If the drive is bad, replace it. > > If the drive checks out ok...then do a RAM test > > http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp > > >
Guest philo Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 Re: Can't upgrade 2000sp2 to sp4 "muzikhed" <muzikhed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:028B08B2-051D-4FE7-9EF7-62DF8475A728@microsoft.com... > > > "philo" wrote: > > > > > "muzikhed" <muzikhed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:C0611388-F786-46E9-B089-251A867B1A4B@microsoft.com... > > > I had a W2k sp4 OS which crashed - failed to boot after attempting to fix > > > Adobe program. With help from Dell I've wiped the c: clean & reformatted. > > I > > > had much trouble getting it to boot at all. Would not complete the Win2K > > > setup from CDrom. Finally I partitioned my Heardisk0 into 2 virtual > > drives: > > > C: and H: and I set H: as the systemroot. Then I was able to get > > through > > > the Win2k Setup sucessfully. > > > Using Windows Update - I sucessfully installed Internet Explorer, but SP4 > > > pack fails repeatedly. svcpack.log says: "Apply failed: c: > > > <temp>\download\ntdll._p on h:\winnt\ntdll to get c:\<temp>\ntdll..dll" > > and > > > repeats a similar message for several dowen .dll files. scvpack.log then > > > notes that it displayed the failure message to me (the user):Message > > > displayed to the user: Service Pack 4 Setup was unable to download all the > > > Service Pack 4 files necessary for installation. > > > > > > If this error persists after you have clicked Retry several times, go to > > the > > > Windows 2000 Service Pack Web site and select "P > > > *** > > > > > > I'd truly appreciate any help. > > > > > > > > > > It looks like you may have a hardware problem. > > Having to divide-up your drive is not at all normal. > > > > Go to the website of your HD manufacturer and download their diagnostic > > utility > > and test the drive. > > If the drive is bad, replace it. > > > > If the drive checks out ok...then do a RAM test > > > > http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply! Interesting. I was working with Dell help on the > phone, because I could not get Windows to boot, Emergengy Repair Disk failed > and then All attempts to setup Windows from scratch were failing. The 1st guy > at Dell had me reformat the c: but that didn't work - I still couldn't > Install Windows. > Of course, I fooled around with Repair Console commands like map, fixboot, > and fixmbr to try to get back in - no success. > > Days later, another guy at Dell led me through a test of my lowest hard > drive. It had sector errors, he thought too many, and recommended I buy a > new hard drive. > I have a Dell Workstation 530 with Intel dual Xeon processors. My 3 > internal hard drives are all SCSI. After one false try on the SCSI buy > (wrong pin format) I was ordering another & also continuing to try to boot & > run setup. My guess was that I had an incorrect or corrupted boot sector, > but the help I was getting at the time was not adequate - Win 2000 not being > supported anymore at Dell. > On my own, I tried different variations at re-formatting and re-partitioning > and re-fixing the boot record with my existing SCSI drive in place. > Finally I got through the boot up sucessfully and was able to complete my > Win2k(sp2) setup, and then I re-installed the chip, Video, ATa, & Audio > Drivers, and then I sucessfully setup other applications compatible with > W2kSp2 - notably the (older,sp2 compatible) MS Internet Explorer version, and > other sp2 compatible applications, Adobe, and Itunes for example. All that > has been working very well, which has been increasing my belief that the > hardware may be OK after all. > I may be wrong, but is it likely that all these other apps would load & run, > but the Winn2k SP2>SP4 upgrade should fail on a hardware error? > > So, I can see why you sniffed out a hardware issue because I was thinking > about a possible hardware problem when I partitioned the drive as I did. But > my re-partitioning of harddisk0 into C: and also an H: partition may just be > an artifact of my shotgun approach. I THINK I got "in" after I applied the > Fixmbr command with the correct parameter. I THINK I had previously tried > fixmbr c:, and on my sucessful attempt I tried something more like > fixmbr \Device\Harddisk0\Partition0 > > I ended up setting h: (the upper partition of my lowest harddisk) as the > systemroot, > and, while that's unusual, I've been able to sucessfully install lost of > apps to the h: with no problem. > So, I'd be glad to go back and re-do my partitions and re-install > evereything if I had confidence that that's absolutely required for W2kSP4 > installation. But unfortunately, I've had weak help so far, and I'm not > inclined to spend $150 and a week on new hardware, or several days > re-installing all my currently working apps if I don't need to. > > The RAM test you recommended is for Pentium & Celeron, aparently not Xeon > processor. After my long story, do you still think hardware is the problem? > Any other useful thoughts are so very welcome. I really need help. > > Everything's great except I need SP4 so I can > - Use more current applications - (esp for my enduser app --- Matlab !) > - upgrade to XP or Vista before it's too late! My suggestion was the run the manufacturer's diagnostic on the drive... looks like you never did that. If the drive is bad, you are just wasting your time trying to use it. I did not know that the memory tester does not work on a Xenon There are other memort testers out there , maybe another would work... but I'd really give that HD a test
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