Can't upgrade 2000sp2 to sp4

[Guest muzikhed]

I had a W2k sp4 OS which crashed - failed to boot after attempting to fix

Adobe program. With help from Dell I've wiped the c: clean & reformatted. I

had much trouble getting it to boot at all. Would not complete the Win2K

setup from CDrom. Finally I partitioned my Heardisk0 into 2 virtual drives:

C: and H: and I set H: as the systemroot. Then I was able to get through

the Win2k Setup sucessfully.

Using Windows Update - I sucessfully installed Internet Explorer, but SP4

pack fails repeatedly. svcpack.log says: "Apply failed: c:

<temp>\download\ntdll._p on h:\winnt\ntdll to get c:\<temp>\ntdll..dll" and

repeats a similar message for several dowen .dll files. scvpack.log then

notes that it displayed the failure message to me (the user):Message

displayed to the user: Service Pack 4 Setup was unable to download all the

Service Pack 4 files necessary for installation.

 

If this error persists after you have clicked Retry several times, go to the

Windows 2000 Service Pack Web site and select "P

***

 

I'd truly appreciate any help.

[Guest philo]

Re: Can't upgrade 2000sp2 to sp4

 

 

"muzikhed" <muzikhed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:C0611388-F786-46E9-B089-251A867B1A4B@microsoft.com...

> I had a W2k sp4 OS which crashed - failed to boot after attempting to fix

> Adobe program. With help from Dell I've wiped the c: clean & reformatted.

I

> had much trouble getting it to boot at all. Would not complete the Win2K

> setup from CDrom. Finally I partitioned my Heardisk0 into 2 virtual

drives:

> C: and H: and I set H: as the systemroot. Then I was able to get

through

> the Win2k Setup sucessfully.

> Using Windows Update - I sucessfully installed Internet Explorer, but SP4

> pack fails repeatedly. svcpack.log says: "Apply failed: c:

> <temp>\download\ntdll._p on h:\winnt\ntdll to get c:\<temp>\ntdll..dll"

and

> repeats a similar message for several dowen .dll files. scvpack.log then

> notes that it displayed the failure message to me (the user):Message

> displayed to the user: Service Pack 4 Setup was unable to download all the

> Service Pack 4 files necessary for installation.

>

> If this error persists after you have clicked Retry several times, go to

the

> Windows 2000 Service Pack Web site and select "P

> ***

>

> I'd truly appreciate any help.

>

>

 

It looks like you may have a hardware problem.

Having to divide-up your drive is not at all normal.

 

Go to the website of your HD manufacturer and download their diagnostic

utility

and test the drive.

If the drive is bad, replace it.

 

If the drive checks out ok...then do a RAM test

 

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

[Guest muzikhed]

Re: Can't upgrade 2000sp2 to sp4

 

 

 

"philo" wrote:

>

> "muzikhed" <muzikhed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C0611388-F786-46E9-B089-251A867B1A4B@microsoft.com...

> > I had a W2k sp4 OS which crashed - failed to boot after attempting to fix

> > Adobe program. With help from Dell I've wiped the c: clean & reformatted.

> I

> > had much trouble getting it to boot at all. Would not complete the Win2K

> > setup from CDrom. Finally I partitioned my Heardisk0 into 2 virtual

> drives:

> > C: and H: and I set H: as the systemroot. Then I was able to get

> through

> > the Win2k Setup sucessfully.

> > Using Windows Update - I sucessfully installed Internet Explorer, but SP4

> > pack fails repeatedly. svcpack.log says: "Apply failed: c:

> > <temp>\download\ntdll._p on h:\winnt\ntdll to get c:\<temp>\ntdll..dll"

> and

> > repeats a similar message for several dowen .dll files. scvpack.log then

> > notes that it displayed the failure message to me (the user):Message

> > displayed to the user: Service Pack 4 Setup was unable to download all the

> > Service Pack 4 files necessary for installation.

> >

> > If this error persists after you have clicked Retry several times, go to

> the

> > Windows 2000 Service Pack Web site and select "P

> > ***

> >

> > I'd truly appreciate any help.

> >

> >

>

> It looks like you may have a hardware problem.

> Having to divide-up your drive is not at all normal.

>

> Go to the website of your HD manufacturer and download their diagnostic

> utility

> and test the drive.

> If the drive is bad, replace it.

>

> If the drive checks out ok...then do a RAM test

>

> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

>

>

>

Thanks for the reply! Interesting. I was working with Dell help on the

phone, because I could not get Windows to boot, Emergengy Repair Disk failed

and then All attempts to setup Windows from scratch were failing. The 1st guy

at Dell had me reformat the c: but that didn't work - I still couldn't

Install Windows.

Of course, I fooled around with Repair Console commands like map, fixboot,

and fixmbr to try to get back in - no success.

 

Days later, another guy at Dell led me through a test of my lowest hard

drive. It had sector errors, he thought too many, and recommended I buy a

new hard drive.

I have a Dell Workstation 530 with Intel dual Xeon processors. My 3

internal hard drives are all SCSI. After one false try on the SCSI buy

(wrong pin format) I was ordering another & also continuing to try to boot &

run setup. My guess was that I had an incorrect or corrupted boot sector,

but the help I was getting at the time was not adequate - Win 2000 not being

supported anymore at Dell.

On my own, I tried different variations at re-formatting and re-partitioning

and re-fixing the boot record with my existing SCSI drive in place.

Finally I got through the boot up sucessfully and was able to complete my

Win2k(sp2) setup, and then I re-installed the chip, Video, ATa, & Audio

Drivers, and then I sucessfully setup other applications compatible with

W2kSp2 - notably the (older,sp2 compatible) MS Internet Explorer version, and

other sp2 compatible applications, Adobe, and Itunes for example. All that

has been working very well, which has been increasing my belief that the

hardware may be OK after all.

I may be wrong, but is it likely that all these other apps would load & run,

but the Winn2k SP2>SP4 upgrade should fail on a hardware error?

 

So, I can see why you sniffed out a hardware issue because I was thinking

about a possible hardware problem when I partitioned the drive as I did. But

my re-partitioning of harddisk0 into C: and also an H: partition may just be

an artifact of my shotgun approach. I THINK I got "in" after I applied the

Fixmbr command with the correct parameter. I THINK I had previously tried

fixmbr c:, and on my sucessful attempt I tried something more like

fixmbr \Device\Harddisk0\Partition0

 

I ended up setting h: (the upper partition of my lowest harddisk) as the

systemroot,

and, while that's unusual, I've been able to sucessfully install lost of

apps to the h: with no problem.

So, I'd be glad to go back and re-do my partitions and re-install

evereything if I had confidence that that's absolutely required for W2kSP4

installation. But unfortunately, I've had weak help so far, and I'm not

inclined to spend $150 and a week on new hardware, or several days

re-installing all my currently working apps if I don't need to.

 

The RAM test you recommended is for Pentium & Celeron, aparently not Xeon

processor. After my long story, do you still think hardware is the problem?

Any other useful thoughts are so very welcome. I really need help.

 

Everything's great except I need SP4 so I can

- Use more current applications - (esp for my enduser app --- Matlab !)

- upgrade to XP or Vista before it's too late!

[Guest muzikhed]

Re: Can't upgrade 2000sp2 to sp4

 

 

 

"philo" wrote:

>

> "muzikhed" <muzikhed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C0611388-F786-46E9-B089-251A867B1A4B@microsoft.com...

> > I had a W2k sp4 OS which crashed - failed to boot after attempting to fix

> > Adobe program. With help from Dell I've wiped the c: clean & reformatted.

> I

> > had much trouble getting it to boot at all. Would not complete the Win2K

> > setup from CDrom. Finally I partitioned my Heardisk0 into 2 virtual

> drives:

> > C: and H: and I set H: as the systemroot. Then I was able to get

> through

> > the Win2k Setup sucessfully.

> > Using Windows Update - I sucessfully installed Internet Explorer, but SP4

> > pack fails repeatedly. svcpack.log says: "Apply failed: c:

> > <temp>\download\ntdll._p on h:\winnt\ntdll to get c:\<temp>\ntdll..dll"

> and

> > repeats a similar message for several dowen .dll files. scvpack.log then

> > notes that it displayed the failure message to me (the user):Message

> > displayed to the user: Service Pack 4 Setup was unable to download all the

> > Service Pack 4 files necessary for installation.

> >

> > If this error persists after you have clicked Retry several times, go to

> the

> > Windows 2000 Service Pack Web site and select "P

> > ***

> >

> > I'd truly appreciate any help.

> >

> >

>

> It looks like you may have a hardware problem.

> Having to divide-up your drive is not at all normal.

>

> Go to the website of your HD manufacturer and download their diagnostic

> utility

> and test the drive.

> If the drive is bad, replace it.

>

> If the drive checks out ok...then do a RAM test

>

> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

>

>

>

[Guest philo]

Re: Can't upgrade 2000sp2 to sp4

 

 

"muzikhed" <muzikhed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:028B08B2-051D-4FE7-9EF7-62DF8475A728@microsoft.com...

>

>

> "philo" wrote:

>

> >

> > "muzikhed" <muzikhed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:C0611388-F786-46E9-B089-251A867B1A4B@microsoft.com...

> > > I had a W2k sp4 OS which crashed - failed to boot after attempting to

fix

> > > Adobe program. With help from Dell I've wiped the c: clean &

reformatted.

> > I

> > > had much trouble getting it to boot at all. Would not complete the

Win2K

> > > setup from CDrom. Finally I partitioned my Heardisk0 into 2 virtual

> > drives:

> > > C: and H: and I set H: as the systemroot. Then I was able to get

> > through

> > > the Win2k Setup sucessfully.

> > > Using Windows Update - I sucessfully installed Internet Explorer, but

SP4

> > > pack fails repeatedly. svcpack.log says: "Apply failed: c:

> > > <temp>\download\ntdll._p on h:\winnt\ntdll to get

c:\<temp>\ntdll..dll"

> > and

> > > repeats a similar message for several dowen .dll files. scvpack.log

then

> > > notes that it displayed the failure message to me (the user):Message

> > > displayed to the user: Service Pack 4 Setup was unable to download all

the

> > > Service Pack 4 files necessary for installation.

> > >

> > > If this error persists after you have clicked Retry several times, go

to

> > the

> > > Windows 2000 Service Pack Web site and select "P

> > > ***

> > >

> > > I'd truly appreciate any help.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > It looks like you may have a hardware problem.

> > Having to divide-up your drive is not at all normal.

> >

> > Go to the website of your HD manufacturer and download their diagnostic

> > utility

> > and test the drive.

> > If the drive is bad, replace it.

> >

> > If the drive checks out ok...then do a RAM test

> >

> > http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

> >

> >

> >

> Thanks for the reply! Interesting. I was working with Dell help on the

> phone, because I could not get Windows to boot, Emergengy Repair Disk

failed

> and then All attempts to setup Windows from scratch were failing. The 1st

guy

> at Dell had me reformat the c: but that didn't work - I still couldn't

> Install Windows.

> Of course, I fooled around with Repair Console commands like map, fixboot,

> and fixmbr to try to get back in - no success.

>

> Days later, another guy at Dell led me through a test of my lowest hard

> drive. It had sector errors, he thought too many, and recommended I buy a

> new hard drive.

> I have a Dell Workstation 530 with Intel dual Xeon processors. My 3

> internal hard drives are all SCSI. After one false try on the SCSI buy

> (wrong pin format) I was ordering another & also continuing to try to boot

&

> run setup. My guess was that I had an incorrect or corrupted boot sector,

> but the help I was getting at the time was not adequate - Win 2000 not

being

> supported anymore at Dell.

> On my own, I tried different variations at re-formatting and

re-partitioning

> and re-fixing the boot record with my existing SCSI drive in place.

> Finally I got through the boot up sucessfully and was able to complete my

> Win2k(sp2) setup, and then I re-installed the chip, Video, ATa, & Audio

> Drivers, and then I sucessfully setup other applications compatible with

> W2kSp2 - notably the (older,sp2 compatible) MS Internet Explorer version,

and

> other sp2 compatible applications, Adobe, and Itunes for example. All

that

> has been working very well, which has been increasing my belief that the

> hardware may be OK after all.

> I may be wrong, but is it likely that all these other apps would load &

run,

> but the Winn2k SP2>SP4 upgrade should fail on a hardware error?

>

> So, I can see why you sniffed out a hardware issue because I was thinking

> about a possible hardware problem when I partitioned the drive as I did.

But

> my re-partitioning of harddisk0 into C: and also an H: partition may just

be

> an artifact of my shotgun approach. I THINK I got "in" after I applied

the

> Fixmbr command with the correct parameter. I THINK I had previously

tried

> fixmbr c:, and on my sucessful attempt I tried something more like

> fixmbr \Device\Harddisk0\Partition0

>

> I ended up setting h: (the upper partition of my lowest harddisk) as the

> systemroot,

> and, while that's unusual, I've been able to sucessfully install lost of

> apps to the h: with no problem.

> So, I'd be glad to go back and re-do my partitions and re-install

> evereything if I had confidence that that's absolutely required for W2kSP4

> installation. But unfortunately, I've had weak help so far, and I'm not

> inclined to spend $150 and a week on new hardware, or several days

> re-installing all my currently working apps if I don't need to.

>

> The RAM test you recommended is for Pentium & Celeron, aparently not Xeon

> processor. After my long story, do you still think hardware is the

problem?

> Any other useful thoughts are so very welcome. I really need help.

>

> Everything's great except I need SP4 so I can

> - Use more current applications - (esp for my enduser app --- Matlab !)

> - upgrade to XP or Vista before it's too late!

 

 

My suggestion was the run the manufacturer's diagnostic on the drive...

looks like you never did that.

If the drive is bad, you are just wasting your time trying to use it.

 

I did not know that the memory tester does not work on a Xenon

 

 

There are other memort testers out there , maybe another would work...

but I'd really give that HD a test