Vista SP1 destroys certain apps

[Guest Jake Malone - MVP/MUT]

Vista SP1 kills and maims security apps, utilitiesCheck security

software before installing

By Kelly Fiveash → More by this author

Published Friday 22nd February 2008 14:51 GMT

Green Computing - Where do you stand?

Microsoft has admitted that Windows Vista service pack one (SP1) renders

useless a number of well-known third party security products.

 

Redmond said in a knowledge base article yesterday that due to

"reliability" issues with Vista SP1, it has been forced to prevent some

security products from running after the service pack is installed.

 

So, customers who currently have versions of Jiangmin KV Antivirus or

Trend Micro's Internet Security on their Vista computers will no longer

be able to use the software, which are suppose to safeguard their

machines against hackers and malware, after SP1 is installed.

 

The two other security products deemed by Microsoft to make Vista SP1

"unreliable" are versions of BitDefender AV and Zone Alarm Security Suite.

 

It added that it has put a block on Fujitsu's Shock Sensor utility,

which protects laptop hard-drives against sudden shocks.

 

Microsoft also pinpointed a number of products that simply won't work

after the service pack, which is expected to be available for download

to everyone by the middle of next month, has been installed.

 

Versions of Iron Speed Designer, Xheo Licensing, and Free Allegiance

software are on that particular blacklist.

 

Meanwhile, Novell's ZCM Agent and the New York Times reader software are

among the products listed as having severely reduced functionality post

Vista-SP1.

 

Microsoft said in the article: "A program may experience a loss of

functionality after you install Windows Vista SP1. However, most

programs will continue to work as expected after you install Windows

Vista SP1."

 

This latest embarrassing cock-up comes just days after Microsoft

snatched back a key pre-requisite update for Vista SP1 from its Windows

Update website.

 

It was forced to suspend distribution of its servicing stack KB937287

update after customers complained that their PCs wouldn't boot up

properly once it had been applied. ®

[Guest John Adams]

Re: Vista SP1 destroys certain apps

 

You forgot to mention that supported versions of these applications are all

available now and that these vendors were part of the decision to block them

after SP1 installed.

 

Check here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935796

 

- John

 

"Jake Malone - MVP/MUT" <jako@azurious.net> wrote in message

news:47bf6a4a$0$16678$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

> Vista SP1 kills and maims security apps, utilitiesCheck security software

> before installing

> By Kelly Fiveash → More by this author

> Published Friday 22nd February 2008 14:51 GMT

> Green Computing - Where do you stand?

> Microsoft has admitted that Windows Vista service pack one (SP1) renders

> useless a number of well-known third party security products.

>

> Redmond said in a knowledge base article yesterday that due to

> "reliability" issues with Vista SP1, it has been forced to prevent some

> security products from running after the service pack is installed.

>

> So, customers who currently have versions of Jiangmin KV Antivirus or

> Trend Micro's Internet Security on their Vista computers will no longer be

> able to use the software, which are suppose to safeguard their machines

> against hackers and malware, after SP1 is installed.

>

> The two other security products deemed by Microsoft to make Vista SP1

> "unreliable" are versions of BitDefender AV and Zone Alarm Security Suite.

>

> It added that it has put a block on Fujitsu's Shock Sensor utility, which

> protects laptop hard-drives against sudden shocks.

>

> Microsoft also pinpointed a number of products that simply won't work

> after the service pack, which is expected to be available for download to

> everyone by the middle of next month, has been installed.

>

> Versions of Iron Speed Designer, Xheo Licensing, and Free Allegiance

> software are on that particular blacklist.

>

> Meanwhile, Novell's ZCM Agent and the New York Times reader software are

> among the products listed as having severely reduced functionality post

> Vista-SP1.

>

> Microsoft said in the article: "A program may experience a loss of

> functionality after you install Windows Vista SP1. However, most programs

> will continue to work as expected after you install Windows Vista SP1."

>

> This latest embarrassing cock-up comes just days after Microsoft snatched

> back a key pre-requisite update for Vista SP1 from its Windows Update

> website.

>

> It was forced to suspend distribution of its servicing stack KB937287

> update after customers complained that their PCs wouldn't boot up properly

> once it had been applied. ®

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: Vista SP1 destroys certain apps

 

He doesn't worry about facts that don't fit an agenda.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"John Adams" <seamus@horadrim.net> wrote in message

news:7ED083AD-1EF6-4983-8F38-11DE88E8F5DC@microsoft.com...

> You forgot to mention that supported versions of these applications are

> all available now and that these vendors were part of the decision to

> block them after SP1 installed.

>

> Check here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935796

>

> - John

>

> "Jake Malone - MVP/MUT" <jako@azurious.net> wrote in message

> news:47bf6a4a$0$16678$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

>> Vista SP1 kills and maims security apps, utilitiesCheck security software

>> before installing

>> By Kelly Fiveash → More by this author

>> Published Friday 22nd February 2008 14:51 GMT

>> Green Computing - Where do you stand?

>> Microsoft has admitted that Windows Vista service pack one (SP1) renders

>> useless a number of well-known third party security products.

>>

>> Redmond said in a knowledge base article yesterday that due to

>> "reliability" issues with Vista SP1, it has been forced to prevent some

>> security products from running after the service pack is installed.

>>

>> So, customers who currently have versions of Jiangmin KV Antivirus or

>> Trend Micro's Internet Security on their Vista computers will no longer

>> be able to use the software, which are suppose to safeguard their

>> machines against hackers and malware, after SP1 is installed.

>>

>> The two other security products deemed by Microsoft to make Vista SP1

>> "unreliable" are versions of BitDefender AV and Zone Alarm Security

>> Suite.

>>

>> It added that it has put a block on Fujitsu's Shock Sensor utility, which

>> protects laptop hard-drives against sudden shocks.

>>

>> Microsoft also pinpointed a number of products that simply won't work

>> after the service pack, which is expected to be available for download to

>> everyone by the middle of next month, has been installed.

>>

>> Versions of Iron Speed Designer, Xheo Licensing, and Free Allegiance

>> software are on that particular blacklist.

>>

>> Meanwhile, Novell's ZCM Agent and the New York Times reader software are

>> among the products listed as having severely reduced functionality post

>> Vista-SP1.

>>

>> Microsoft said in the article: "A program may experience a loss of

>> functionality after you install Windows Vista SP1. However, most programs

>> will continue to work as expected after you install Windows Vista SP1."

>>

>> This latest embarrassing cock-up comes just days after Microsoft snatched

>> back a key pre-requisite update for Vista SP1 from its Windows Update

>> website.

>>

>> It was forced to suspend distribution of its servicing stack KB937287

>> update after customers complained that their PCs wouldn't boot up

>> properly once it had been applied. ®

>

[Guest waxace]

Re: Vista SP1 destroys certain apps

 

I have installed a "Glitch" by MS version of SP1 for 64bit.

It was not supposed to be released until March but it came in on my Windows

Update.

Glitch or not I installed it and it works fine.

I do not have any borderline apps and checked into the apps that were

working before I built this computer from the ground up.

SP1 made file reading and processing faster and improved a few other things.

NOW, to the issue of non-compatable software, there will be stuff that will

not work with every OS and people have not got used to that issue yet.

Research what you install, check for UPDATED drivers and don't assume that

everything will run right 100% of the time.

I can't speak for all the software that does not work, but I have software

that I test as I go along for the reason that it is stated it is NOT designed

for 64 bit.

Still I have a bunch of 32 bit programs that run just fine on my 64 bit

system.

Check the Mfg. for drivers.

One thing for sure, some products WILL NOT run on 64bit correctly being

they are designed for 32bit systems.

ZONE ALARM is NOT 64bit. They are planning for a 64bit product, but it is

not one now. Same with Webroot products and Bit defender.

Check and don't assume software will work.

My system is fully functuional with many apps and NO issues.

Try AVG for a Anti-Virus. It is written for 64bit......

 

 

--

JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG....

WAXACE

 

 

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> He doesn't worry about facts that don't fit an agenda.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

>

> "John Adams" <seamus@horadrim.net> wrote in message

> news:7ED083AD-1EF6-4983-8F38-11DE88E8F5DC@microsoft.com...

> > You forgot to mention that supported versions of these applications are

> > all available now and that these vendors were part of the decision to

> > block them after SP1 installed.

> >

> > Check here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935796

> >

> > - John

> >

> > "Jake Malone - MVP/MUT" <jako@azurious.net> wrote in message

> > news:47bf6a4a$0$16678$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

> >> Vista SP1 kills and maims security apps, utilitiesCheck security software

> >> before installing

> >> By Kelly Fiveash → More by this author

> >> Published Friday 22nd February 2008 14:51 GMT

> >> Green Computing - Where do you stand?

> >> Microsoft has admitted that Windows Vista service pack one (SP1) renders

> >> useless a number of well-known third party security products.

> >>

> >> Redmond said in a knowledge base article yesterday that due to

> >> "reliability" issues with Vista SP1, it has been forced to prevent some

> >> security products from running after the service pack is installed.

> >>

> >> So, customers who currently have versions of Jiangmin KV Antivirus or

> >> Trend Micro's Internet Security on their Vista computers will no longer

> >> be able to use the software, which are suppose to safeguard their

> >> machines against hackers and malware, after SP1 is installed.

> >>

> >> The two other security products deemed by Microsoft to make Vista SP1

> >> "unreliable" are versions of BitDefender AV and Zone Alarm Security

> >> Suite.

> >>

> >> It added that it has put a block on Fujitsu's Shock Sensor utility, which

> >> protects laptop hard-drives against sudden shocks.

> >>

> >> Microsoft also pinpointed a number of products that simply won't work

> >> after the service pack, which is expected to be available for download to

> >> everyone by the middle of next month, has been installed.

> >>

> >> Versions of Iron Speed Designer, Xheo Licensing, and Free Allegiance

> >> software are on that particular blacklist.

> >>

> >> Meanwhile, Novell's ZCM Agent and the New York Times reader software are

> >> among the products listed as having severely reduced functionality post

> >> Vista-SP1.

> >>

> >> Microsoft said in the article: "A program may experience a loss of

> >> functionality after you install Windows Vista SP1. However, most programs

> >> will continue to work as expected after you install Windows Vista SP1."

> >>

> >> This latest embarrassing cock-up comes just days after Microsoft snatched

> >> back a key pre-requisite update for Vista SP1 from its Windows Update

> >> website.

> >>

> >> It was forced to suspend distribution of its servicing stack KB937287

> >> update after customers complained that their PCs wouldn't boot up

> >> properly once it had been applied. ®

> >

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Vista SP1 destroys certain apps

 

The glitch isn't in SP1 proper. It relates to the herald file which writes

a registry key. If you got past that with no problems then you should be

home free.

 

"waxace" <waxace@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7BF5FD01-08C4-4BDC-84FD-E234A1C920A7@microsoft.com...

>I have installed a "Glitch" by MS version of SP1 for 64bit.

> It was not supposed to be released until March but it came in on my

> Windows

> Update.

> Glitch or not I installed it and it works fine.

> I do not have any borderline apps and checked into the apps that were

> working before I built this computer from the ground up.

> SP1 made file reading and processing faster and improved a few other

> things.

> NOW, to the issue of non-compatable software, there will be stuff that

> will

> not work with every OS and people have not got used to that issue yet.

> Research what you install, check for UPDATED drivers and don't assume that

> everything will run right 100% of the time.

> I can't speak for all the software that does not work, but I have software

> that I test as I go along for the reason that it is stated it is NOT

> designed

> for 64 bit.

> Still I have a bunch of 32 bit programs that run just fine on my 64 bit

> system.

> Check the Mfg. for drivers.

> One thing for sure, some products WILL NOT run on 64bit correctly being

> they are designed for 32bit systems.

> ZONE ALARM is NOT 64bit. They are planning for a 64bit product, but it is

> not one now. Same with Webroot products and Bit defender.

> Check and don't assume software will work.

> My system is fully functuional with many apps and NO issues.

> Try AVG for a Anti-Virus. It is written for 64bit......

>

>

> --

> JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG....

> WAXACE

>

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

>

>> He doesn't worry about facts that don't fit an agenda.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>>

>> "John Adams" <seamus@horadrim.net> wrote in message

>> news:7ED083AD-1EF6-4983-8F38-11DE88E8F5DC@microsoft.com...

>> > You forgot to mention that supported versions of these applications are

>> > all available now and that these vendors were part of the decision to

>> > block them after SP1 installed.

>> >

>> > Check here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935796

>> >

>> > - John

>> >

>> > "Jake Malone - MVP/MUT" <jako@azurious.net> wrote in message

>> > news:47bf6a4a$0$16678$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

>> >> Vista SP1 kills and maims security apps, utilitiesCheck security

>> >> software

>> >> before installing

>> >> By Kelly Fiveash → More by this author

>> >> Published Friday 22nd February 2008 14:51 GMT

>> >> Green Computing - Where do you stand?

>> >> Microsoft has admitted that Windows Vista service pack one (SP1)

>> >> renders

>> >> useless a number of well-known third party security products.

>> >>

>> >> Redmond said in a knowledge base article yesterday that due to

>> >> "reliability" issues with Vista SP1, it has been forced to prevent

>> >> some

>> >> security products from running after the service pack is installed.

>> >>

>> >> So, customers who currently have versions of Jiangmin KV Antivirus or

>> >> Trend Micro's Internet Security on their Vista computers will no

>> >> longer

>> >> be able to use the software, which are suppose to safeguard their

>> >> machines against hackers and malware, after SP1 is installed.

>> >>

>> >> The two other security products deemed by Microsoft to make Vista SP1

>> >> "unreliable" are versions of BitDefender AV and Zone Alarm Security

>> >> Suite.

>> >>

>> >> It added that it has put a block on Fujitsu's Shock Sensor utility,

>> >> which

>> >> protects laptop hard-drives against sudden shocks.

>> >>

>> >> Microsoft also pinpointed a number of products that simply won't work

>> >> after the service pack, which is expected to be available for download

>> >> to

>> >> everyone by the middle of next month, has been installed.

>> >>

>> >> Versions of Iron Speed Designer, Xheo Licensing, and Free Allegiance

>> >> software are on that particular blacklist.

>> >>

>> >> Meanwhile, Novell's ZCM Agent and the New York Times reader software

>> >> are

>> >> among the products listed as having severely reduced functionality

>> >> post

>> >> Vista-SP1.

>> >>

>> >> Microsoft said in the article: "A program may experience a loss of

>> >> functionality after you install Windows Vista SP1. However, most

>> >> programs

>> >> will continue to work as expected after you install Windows Vista

>> >> SP1."

>> >>

>> >> This latest embarrassing cock-up comes just days after Microsoft

>> >> snatched

>> >> back a key pre-requisite update for Vista SP1 from its Windows Update

>> >> website.

>> >>

>> >> It was forced to suspend distribution of its servicing stack KB937287

>> >> update after customers complained that their PCs wouldn't boot up

>> >> properly once it had been applied. ®

>> >

>>