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Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

You would continue you to lose VSS files if for some reason the Vista volume

is visible to XP when XP boots up. If you can see the Vista drive in XP's

My Computer then Vista is obviously not hidden.

 

"Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Thanks Lance, I will have to re-check, but I think even without the boot

> menu, doing it as I am in the bios, I still am losing Vista restore

> points, I will go check this and advise.

>

> --

> Don

>

>

>

>

> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

> news:ujbA%23vxdIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> No you won't Don. If the first drive is XP in the bios, by default it

>> will boot into XP without requests. If you want Vista then you must use

>> the boot menu.

>>

>> Vista bootmngr when used with XP can be a real hassle. Because if you

>> decide to get rid of Vista Xp will not boot anymore if Vista was using

>> botmngr for both drives.

>>

>> Having 2 different O/S boot on two different drives with bios boot,

>> eliminates Bootmngr and loosing system restore options without having to

>> hack the registry.

>> --

>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.zardoc.com

>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>

>>

>>

>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Hey Lance,

>>>

>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I will

>>> always have to go in and select which drive to boot from correct, rather

>>> than having it give me the option of which OS to boot to during bootup?

>>>

>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is working

>>> great as is.

>>>

>>> Many thanks again,

>>>

>>> Don

>>>

>>>

>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is individual.

>>>>

>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>

>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's Vista.

>>>> It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>

>>>> Have fun.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all

>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>

>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was intalled on

>>>>> as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard disk

>>>>> that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>

>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!

>>>>>

>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option

>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like it is

>>>>> if I need to.

>>>>>

>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when

>>>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.

>>>>>

>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>

>>>>> Don

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it usually

>>>>>> means that the Vista installation did not see your XP drive (was it

>>>>>> unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be able to boot from

>>>>>> bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you don't

>>>>>> touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from (usually

>>>>>> F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot to

>>>>>> XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to

>>>>>> create a start menu.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista

>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual boot

>>>>>>> environment.

>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to boot

>>>>>>> to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the other

>>>>>>> hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing here,

>>>>>>> but apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS and I

>>>>>>> desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was doing

something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was supposed to

do, never could get it to do it.

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

--

Don

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and then

> you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and uses a

> GUI.

>

> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>

>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard

>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>

>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios

>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what I

>> had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to boot

>> into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>

>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is

>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.

>>

>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore points,

>> just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show or just be

>> happy leaving it as it is .

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have a

>>> boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft

>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select

>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will

>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot

>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get variation

>>> of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the boot menu

>>> after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.

>>>

>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the

>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special

>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>

>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see if

>>>> I can understand what I need to do.

>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it

>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.

>>>>

>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Don

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows

>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking

>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that

>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or special

>>>>> boot managers or anything else other than the traditional boot menu

>>>>> Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,

>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have Vista

>>>>>> Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as well.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where I

>>>>>> am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1

>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is

>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot menu,

>>>>>> then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then it will

>>>>>> go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I find

>>>>>> myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into rather than

>>>>>> going through the above steps.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for

>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary to

>>>>>>> go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended procedure

>>>>>>> makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I

>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from

>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to

>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is working

>>>>>>>> great as is.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's

>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all

>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard

>>>>>>>>>> disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option

>>>>>>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like

>>>>>>>>>> it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when

>>>>>>>>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it

>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP

>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be

>>>>>>>>>>> able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you

>>>>>>>>>>> don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from

>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot

>>>>>>>>>>> to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to

>>>>>>>>>>> create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual

>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to

>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the

>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows

>>>>>>>>>>>> as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing

>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS

>>>>>>>>>>>> and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Just installed Vista Boot Pro.

When I launch it , the first thing I get is a warning message as follows:

" VistaBootPro has detected that Vista is either not installed or is

installed on a hidden drive. You may experience minor problems using

VistaBootPro and/or making changes to your BCD registry".

It then takes me to the backup registry options menu.

 

Think it is safe to go ahead and try to use this ?

 

Thanks for your help on this.

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

 

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and then

>> you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and uses a

>> GUI.

>>

>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>

>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard

>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>

>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios

>>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what

>>> I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to

>>> boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>

>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is

>>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.

>>>

>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show or

>>> just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Don

>>>

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have

>>>> a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft

>>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select

>>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will

>>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot

>>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get

>>>> variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the

>>>> boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.

>>>>

>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the

>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special

>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>

>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see if

>>>>> I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it

>>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.

>>>>>

>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Don

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows

>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking

>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that

>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or special

>>>>>> boot managers or anything else other than the traditional boot menu

>>>>>> Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,

>>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have

>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as

>>>>>>> well.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where

>>>>>>> I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1

>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is

>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then

>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into rather

>>>>>>> than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for

>>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary

>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended

>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I

>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from

>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to

>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's

>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all

>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard

>>>>>>>>>>> disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option

>>>>>>>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like

>>>>>>>>>>> it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it

>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP

>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be

>>>>>>>>>>>> able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you

>>>>>>>>>>>> don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from

>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive

>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual

>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows

>>>>>>>>>>>>> as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing

>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS

>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest John Barnes
Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

The BCD will get written to the system drive when executed from either

system. If you want the BCD relocated you will have to make the drive first

in boot priority and the partition you want an active primary partition on

the drive.

 

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and then

>> you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and uses a

>> GUI.

>>

>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>

>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard

>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>

>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios

>>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what

>>> I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to

>>> boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>

>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is

>>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.

>>>

>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show or

>>> just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Don

>>>

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have

>>>> a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft

>>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select

>>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will

>>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot

>>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get

>>>> variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the

>>>> boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.

>>>>

>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the

>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special

>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>

>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see if

>>>>> I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it

>>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.

>>>>>

>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Don

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows

>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking

>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that

>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or special

>>>>>> boot managers or anything else other than the traditional boot menu

>>>>>> Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,

>>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have

>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as

>>>>>>> well.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where

>>>>>>> I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1

>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is

>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then

>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into rather

>>>>>>> than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for

>>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary

>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended

>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I

>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from

>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to

>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's

>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all

>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard

>>>>>>>>>>> disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option

>>>>>>>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like

>>>>>>>>>>> it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it

>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP

>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be

>>>>>>>>>>>> able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you

>>>>>>>>>>>> don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from

>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive

>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual

>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows

>>>>>>>>>>>>> as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing

>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS

>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest Colin Barnhorst
Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and All

Drives.

 

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and then

>> you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and uses a

>> GUI.

>>

>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>

>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard

>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>

>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios

>>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what

>>> I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to

>>> boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>

>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is

>>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.

>>>

>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show or

>>> just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Don

>>>

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have

>>>> a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft

>>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select

>>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will

>>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot

>>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get

>>>> variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the

>>>> boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.

>>>>

>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the

>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special

>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>

>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see if

>>>>> I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it

>>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.

>>>>>

>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Don

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows

>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking

>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that

>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or special

>>>>>> boot managers or anything else other than the traditional boot menu

>>>>>> Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,

>>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have

>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as

>>>>>>> well.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where

>>>>>>> I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1

>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is

>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then

>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into rather

>>>>>>> than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for

>>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary

>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended

>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I

>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from

>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to

>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's

>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all

>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard

>>>>>>>>>>> disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option

>>>>>>>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like

>>>>>>>>>>> it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it

>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP

>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be

>>>>>>>>>>>> able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you

>>>>>>>>>>>> don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from

>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive

>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual

>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows

>>>>>>>>>>>>> as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing

>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS

>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Augh, I confuse too easily! :)

 

Ok, so if I am booting primarily from the drive my XP resides on, then I

will want to install the VistaBootPro program, onto XP and run it from

there, instead of installing and running from Vista, is that correct?

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

 

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

news:umljIvzdIHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> The BCD will get written to the system drive when executed from either

> system. If you want the BCD relocated you will have to make the drive

> first in boot priority and the partition you want an active primary

> partition on the drive.

>

> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and

>>> uses a GUI.

>>>

>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>

>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard

>>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>

>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios

>>>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what

>>>> I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to

>>>> boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>

>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is

>>>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.

>>>>

>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show

>>>> or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Don

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have

>>>>> a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft

>>>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select

>>>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will

>>>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot

>>>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get

>>>>> variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the

>>>>> boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.

>>>>>

>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the

>>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special

>>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see

>>>>>> if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it

>>>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows

>>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking

>>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that

>>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or

>>>>>>> special boot managers or anything else other than the traditional

>>>>>>> boot menu Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a

>>>>>>> computer.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,

>>>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have

>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as

>>>>>>>> well.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where

>>>>>>>> I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1

>>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is

>>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then

>>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for

>>>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary

>>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended

>>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I

>>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from

>>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to

>>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's

>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all

>>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it

>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP

>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should

>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if

>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from

>>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive

>>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Ok, I will give that a try and advise.

 

Thanks,

 

--

Don

 

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and

> All Drives.

>

> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and

>>> uses a GUI.

>>>

>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>

>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard

>>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>

>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios

>>>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what

>>>> I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to

>>>> boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>

>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is

>>>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.

>>>>

>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show

>>>> or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Don

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have

>>>>> a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft

>>>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select

>>>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will

>>>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot

>>>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get

>>>>> variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the

>>>>> boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.

>>>>>

>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the

>>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special

>>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see

>>>>>> if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it

>>>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows

>>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking

>>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that

>>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or

>>>>>>> special boot managers or anything else other than the traditional

>>>>>>> boot menu Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a

>>>>>>> computer.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,

>>>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have

>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as

>>>>>>>> well.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where

>>>>>>>> I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1

>>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is

>>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then

>>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for

>>>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary

>>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended

>>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I

>>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from

>>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to

>>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's

>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all

>>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it

>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP

>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should

>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if

>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from

>>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive

>>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.

Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the

third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.

 

Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed

VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and run

it from the XP install instead?

 

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and

> All Drives.

>

> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and

>>> uses a GUI.

>>>

>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>

>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard

>>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>

>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios

>>>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what

>>>> I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to

>>>> boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>

>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is

>>>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.

>>>>

>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show

>>>> or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Don

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have

>>>>> a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft

>>>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select

>>>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will

>>>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot

>>>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get

>>>>> variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the

>>>>> boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.

>>>>>

>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the

>>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special

>>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see

>>>>>> if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it

>>>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows

>>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking

>>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that

>>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or

>>>>>>> special boot managers or anything else other than the traditional

>>>>>>> boot menu Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a

>>>>>>> computer.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,

>>>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have

>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as

>>>>>>>> well.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where

>>>>>>>> I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1

>>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is

>>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then

>>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for

>>>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary

>>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended

>>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I

>>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from

>>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to

>>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's

>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all

>>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it

>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP

>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should

>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if

>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from

>>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive

>>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest Colin Barnhorst
Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Sure. Won't hurt.

 

The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the XP

desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.

 

In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should

still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed

the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.

 

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.

> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the

> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.

>

> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed

> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and run

> it from the XP install instead?

>

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and

>> All Drives.

>>

>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>>

>>> Thanks,

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Don

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and

>>>> uses a GUI.

>>>>

>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>>

>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard

>>>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>>

>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my

>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based

>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu

>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>>

>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which

>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"

>>>>> partition.

>>>>>

>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show

>>>>> or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Don

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will

>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and

>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and

>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk drive

>>>>>> lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the XP

>>>>>> drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd

>>>>>> you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and

>>>>>> will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive

>>>>>> or partition.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the

>>>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special

>>>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see

>>>>>>> if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,

>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it

>>>>>>> didn't.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows

>>>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking

>>>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that

>>>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or

>>>>>>>> special boot managers or anything else other than the traditional

>>>>>>>> boot menu Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a

>>>>>>>> computer.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to

>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do

>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker

>>>>>>>>> feature as well.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify

>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1

>>>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is

>>>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then

>>>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but

>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary

>>>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended

>>>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I

>>>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from

>>>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to

>>>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's

>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all

>>>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Dang, still did not work.

 

I installed VistaBootPro in Windows XP.

 

Installed Vista Bootloader using system bootloader tab, selected C drive,

which is what my XP is installed, and still just boots directly into XP, no

boot menu option to choose XP or Vista.

 

I just can't seem to get this to work properly in that way.

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...

> Sure. Won't hurt.

>

> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the XP

> desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.

>

> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should

> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed

> the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.

>

> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.

>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the

>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.

>>

>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed

>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and

>> run it from the XP install instead?

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>>

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and

>>> All Drives.

>>>

>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

>>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Don

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and

>>>>> uses a GUI.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard

>>>>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my

>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based

>>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu

>>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which

>>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"

>>>>>> partition.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show

>>>>>> or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will

>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and

>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and

>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk

>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the

>>>>>>> XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista

>>>>>>> dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem)

>>>>>>> and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second

>>>>>>> drive or partition.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the

>>>>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special

>>>>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see

>>>>>>>> if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,

>>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it

>>>>>>>> didn't.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment

>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without

>>>>>>>>> risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution

>>>>>>>>> for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape

>>>>>>>>> key or special boot managers or anything else other than the

>>>>>>>>> traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you install a

>>>>>>>>> second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to

>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do

>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker

>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify

>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive

>>>>>>>>>> 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it

>>>>>>>>>> is still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then

>>>>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but

>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not

>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's

>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I

>>>>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from

>>>>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS

>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a dual boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Btw, when I launch VistaBootPro in windows XP, it first gives me a message

that the bcd entry is missing or corrupt, recommends I repair it first.

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

"Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23XNYqU0dIHA.5560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Dang, still did not work.

>

> I installed VistaBootPro in Windows XP.

>

> Installed Vista Bootloader using system bootloader tab, selected C drive,

> which is what my XP is installed, and still just boots directly into XP,

> no boot menu option to choose XP or Vista.

>

> I just can't seem to get this to work properly in that way.

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...

>> Sure. Won't hurt.

>>

>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the

>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.

>>

>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should

>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed

>> the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.

>>

>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.

>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the

>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.

>>>

>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed

>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and

>>> run it from the XP install instead?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Don

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and

>>>> All Drives.

>>>>

>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

>>>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Don

>>>>>

>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and

>>>>>> uses a GUI.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new

>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my

>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based

>>>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu

>>>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which

>>>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"

>>>>>>> partition.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to

>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will

>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and

>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and

>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk

>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the

>>>>>>>> XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista

>>>>>>>> dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem)

>>>>>>>> and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second

>>>>>>>> drive or partition.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect

>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any

>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and

>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,

>>>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it

>>>>>>>>> didn't.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment

>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup

>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the

>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use

>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other

>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you

>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to

>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do

>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker

>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify

>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive

>>>>>>>>>>> 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it

>>>>>>>>>>> is still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,

>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but

>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be

>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not

>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's

>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of

>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Guest Colin Barnhorst
Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

If you reinstall Vista, try it from the XP desktop. Otherwise, just make

the registry change and go with what you have.

 

"Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23XNYqU0dIHA.5560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Dang, still did not work.

>

> I installed VistaBootPro in Windows XP.

>

> Installed Vista Bootloader using system bootloader tab, selected C drive,

> which is what my XP is installed, and still just boots directly into XP,

> no boot menu option to choose XP or Vista.

>

> I just can't seem to get this to work properly in that way.

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...

>> Sure. Won't hurt.

>>

>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the

>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.

>>

>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should

>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed

>> the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.

>>

>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.

>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the

>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.

>>>

>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed

>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and

>>> run it from the XP install instead?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Don

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and

>>>> All Drives.

>>>>

>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

>>>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Don

>>>>>

>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and

>>>>>> uses a GUI.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new

>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my

>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based

>>>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu

>>>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which

>>>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"

>>>>>>> partition.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to

>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will

>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and

>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and

>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk

>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the

>>>>>>>> XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista

>>>>>>>> dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem)

>>>>>>>> and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second

>>>>>>>> drive or partition.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect

>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any

>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and

>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,

>>>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it

>>>>>>>>> didn't.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment

>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup

>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the

>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use

>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other

>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you

>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to

>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do

>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker

>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify

>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive

>>>>>>>>>>> 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it

>>>>>>>>>>> is still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,

>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but

>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be

>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not

>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's

>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of

>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

The ironic thing is, when I first opened up my Vista box, and inserted the

64 bit dvd into the drive, autoplay started it right up, and I got some

error message, don't remember the exact wording, to the effect that it could

not be run from the desktop, and instructed me to boot from the dvd to run

setup. I had planned on booting from the dvd anyways, so it was not a big

deal at the time. I have the full retail version of Vista Ultimate.

 

No, I seriously don't want go through and install Vista again. I will play

around with VistaBootPro a little more, then just give up if I don't get it

and continue as I am doing. Just hope I don't screw something up :).

 

Thanks for all the help,

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:01D6FC11-C120-44C8-874A-263D27950A19@microsoft.com...

> If you reinstall Vista, try it from the XP desktop. Otherwise, just make

> the registry change and go with what you have.

>

> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23XNYqU0dIHA.5560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Dang, still did not work.

>>

>> I installed VistaBootPro in Windows XP.

>>

>> Installed Vista Bootloader using system bootloader tab, selected C

>> drive, which is what my XP is installed, and still just boots directly

>> into XP, no boot menu option to choose XP or Vista.

>>

>> I just can't seem to get this to work properly in that way.

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...

>>> Sure. Won't hurt.

>>>

>>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the

>>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.

>>>

>>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should

>>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you

>>> installed the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the

>>> same way.

>>>

>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.

>>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the

>>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed

>>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and

>>>> run it from the XP install instead?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Don

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader

>>>>> and All Drives.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I

>>>>>> was supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free

>>>>>>> and uses a GUI.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new

>>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing

>>>>>>>> " Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my

>>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from.

>>>>>>>> Based on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot

>>>>>>>> menu option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition,

>>>>>>>> which is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"

>>>>>>>> partition.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to

>>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will

>>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and

>>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and

>>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk

>>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set

>>>>>>>>> the XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the

>>>>>>>>> Vista dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real

>>>>>>>>> problem) and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on

>>>>>>>>> the second drive or partition.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect

>>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any

>>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and

>>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard

>>>>>>>>>> drive, it would automatically give me that option during boot,

>>>>>>>>>> but it didn't.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment

>>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup

>>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the

>>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use

>>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other

>>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you

>>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to

>>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do

>>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker

>>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify

>>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for

>>>>>>>>>>>> drive 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine

>>>>>>>>>>>> as it is still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,

>>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times,

>>>>>>>>>>>> I find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but

>>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be

>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not

>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's

>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unplugged when installing the Vista Ultimate full version

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the new drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest John Barnes
Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

If you run VBP from the XP partition the way you have changed boot priority

'on the fly', you will overwrite the XP boot process. You would be able to

reverse it later, if you actually can get back into VBP on that drive. Have

you copied the files I recommended earlier?

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...

> Sure. Won't hurt.

>

> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the XP

> desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.

>

> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should

> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed

> the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.

>

> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.

>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the

>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.

>>

>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed

>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and

>> run it from the XP install instead?

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>>

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and

>>> All Drives.

>>>

>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

>>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Don

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and

>>>>> uses a GUI.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard

>>>>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my

>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based

>>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu

>>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which

>>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"

>>>>>> partition.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show

>>>>>> or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will

>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and

>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and

>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk

>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the

>>>>>>> XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista

>>>>>>> dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem)

>>>>>>> and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second

>>>>>>> drive or partition.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the

>>>>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special

>>>>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see

>>>>>>>> if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,

>>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it

>>>>>>>> didn't.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment

>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without

>>>>>>>>> risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution

>>>>>>>>> for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape

>>>>>>>>> key or special boot managers or anything else other than the

>>>>>>>>> traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you install a

>>>>>>>>> second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to

>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do

>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker

>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify

>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive

>>>>>>>>>> 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it

>>>>>>>>>> is still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then

>>>>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but

>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not

>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's

>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I

>>>>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from

>>>>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS

>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a dual boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Not yet, I don't think I quite understood exactly how to do it, I will

re-read again and see what I can do.

 

I now have managed to get the choice to load either Vista or XP, but only

after hitting escape to enter my bios menu and choosing the Vista hard drive

to boot from, can't seem to get it to do it from my first hard drive, the

one XP is installed on.

 

I reckon I better quit messing with VBP while I am ahead before I screw

something up...

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

news:OhtPlh0dIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> If you run VBP from the XP partition the way you have changed boot

> priority 'on the fly', you will overwrite the XP boot process. You would

> be able to reverse it later, if you actually can get back into VBP on that

> drive. Have you copied the files I recommended earlier?

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...

>> Sure. Won't hurt.

>>

>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the

>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.

>>

>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should

>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed

>> the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.

>>

>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.

>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the

>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.

>>>

>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed

>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and

>>> run it from the XP install instead?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Don

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and

>>>> All Drives.

>>>>

>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

>>>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Don

>>>>>

>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and

>>>>>> uses a GUI.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new

>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my

>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based

>>>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu

>>>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which

>>>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"

>>>>>>> partition.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to

>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will

>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and

>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and

>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk

>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the

>>>>>>>> XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista

>>>>>>>> dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem)

>>>>>>>> and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second

>>>>>>>> drive or partition.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect

>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any

>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and

>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,

>>>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it

>>>>>>>>> didn't.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment

>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup

>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the

>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use

>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other

>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you

>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to

>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do

>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker

>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify

>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive

>>>>>>>>>>> 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it

>>>>>>>>>>> is still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,

>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but

>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be

>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not

>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's

>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of

>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest John Barnes
Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

When you have the legacy entry set up via VBP using your default boot

process, which you said was Vista, you can set the legacy drive letter to C

or you can copy the three files to the Vista drive then change the boot.ini

if necessary. If you gave the information you have in Disk Management from

Vista it would be easier to help. When you set up the legacy drive you did

not have it pointing to the partition with the ntldr file on it. You can

add the files where you have it pointed or repoint the legacy entry.

 

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

news:uLnOXm0dIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Not yet, I don't think I quite understood exactly how to do it, I will

> re-read again and see what I can do.

>

> I now have managed to get the choice to load either Vista or XP, but only

> after hitting escape to enter my bios menu and choosing the Vista hard

> drive to boot from, can't seem to get it to do it from my first hard

> drive, the one XP is installed on.

>

> I reckon I better quit messing with VBP while I am ahead before I screw

> something up...

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

>

> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

> news:OhtPlh0dIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> If you run VBP from the XP partition the way you have changed boot

>> priority 'on the fly', you will overwrite the XP boot process. You would

>> be able to reverse it later, if you actually can get back into VBP on

>> that drive. Have you copied the files I recommended earlier?

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...

>>> Sure. Won't hurt.

>>>

>>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the

>>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.

>>>

>>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should

>>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you

>>> installed the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the

>>> same way.

>>>

>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.

>>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the

>>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed

>>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and

>>>> run it from the XP install instead?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Don

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader

>>>>> and All Drives.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I

>>>>>> was supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free

>>>>>>> and uses a GUI.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new

>>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing

>>>>>>>> " Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my

>>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from.

>>>>>>>> Based on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot

>>>>>>>> menu option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition,

>>>>>>>> which is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"

>>>>>>>> partition.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to

>>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will

>>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and

>>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and

>>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk

>>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set

>>>>>>>>> the XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the

>>>>>>>>> Vista dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real

>>>>>>>>> problem) and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on

>>>>>>>>> the second drive or partition.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect

>>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any

>>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and

>>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard

>>>>>>>>>> drive, it would automatically give me that option during boot,

>>>>>>>>>> but it didn't.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment

>>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup

>>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the

>>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use

>>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other

>>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you

>>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to

>>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do

>>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker

>>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify

>>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for

>>>>>>>>>>>> drive 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine

>>>>>>>>>>>> as it is still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,

>>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times,

>>>>>>>>>>>> I find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but

>>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be

>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not

>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's

>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unplugged when installing the Vista Ultimate full version

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the new drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest Colin Barnhorst
Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Actually, I just realized you are probably talking about Vista x64 and that

won't install from an XP desktop. Sorry about that.

 

"Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23XNYqU0dIHA.5560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Dang, still did not work.

>

> I installed VistaBootPro in Windows XP.

>

> Installed Vista Bootloader using system bootloader tab, selected C drive,

> which is what my XP is installed, and still just boots directly into XP,

> no boot menu option to choose XP or Vista.

>

> I just can't seem to get this to work properly in that way.

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...

>> Sure. Won't hurt.

>>

>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the

>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.

>>

>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should

>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed

>> the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.

>>

>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.

>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the

>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.

>>>

>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed

>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and

>>> run it from the XP install instead?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Don

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and

>>>> All Drives.

>>>>

>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was

>>>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Don

>>>>>

>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and

>>>>>> uses a GUI.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new

>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "

>>>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my

>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based

>>>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu

>>>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which

>>>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"

>>>>>>> partition.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to

>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will

>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and

>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and

>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk

>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the

>>>>>>>> XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista

>>>>>>>> dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem)

>>>>>>>> and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second

>>>>>>>> drive or partition.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect

>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any

>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and

>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,

>>>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it

>>>>>>>>> didn't.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment

>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup

>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the

>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use

>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other

>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you

>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to

>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do

>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker

>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify

>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive

>>>>>>>>>>> 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it

>>>>>>>>>>> is still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,

>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I

>>>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but

>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be

>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not

>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's

>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of

>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Guest Lance Le Claire
Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

The funniest thing is that we are discussing this on 2 threads. LOL

 

Colin, I thought that since you seem to be quite savvy with O/S talk and

since I am French and don't always find the right words, I thought that

saying a reg hack would have been understood by you because I often see this

type of term used.

 

I meant BOOTMGR

 

So let's call it a registry modification.

 

Now, let's make this clear.

 

1.. System is powered on

2.. The CMOS loads the BIOS and then runs POST

3.. Looks for the MBR on the bootable device

4.. Through the MBR the boot sector is located and the BOOTMGR is loaded

5.. BOOTMGR looks for active partition

6.. BOOTMGR reads the BCD file from the \boot directory on the active

partition

7.. The BCD (boot configuration database) contains various configuration

parameters( this information was previously stored in the boot.ini)

8.. When windows vista is selected, BOOTMGR transfer control to the

Windows Loader (winload.exe) or winresume.exe in case the system was

hibernated.

9.. Winloader loads drivers that are set to start at boot and then

transfers the control to the windows kernel.

10.. There is not msgina.dll in windows vista ( the shell draws the login

screen)

With XP it was called NTLDR with boot.ini file

 

With Vista it's called bootmgr with a Boot Configuration Database. to pay

with boot configuration, you need to run in admin mode command bcd.exe

 

Imagine, if we didn't have have VisatBootPro, imagine were we would be if if

BCDwas gone!!

 

Now Don, the reason you have this issue, is because your XP drive was

plugged. That is one amongst many reasons that experienced users prefer to

use bios option than Vista boot manager.

 

As you can see from my pic, BCD store only shows Vista, but can't see XP

because I unplugged the drive when I installed Vista.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Now for those who have installed Vista while XP was plugged in and have the

Volume shadow copy issue and restore points can't be seen,

 

Copy this command into notepad. for each drive that you want to change,

modify the letter of the drive that you wish to be offline. In this case if

it were J, then E in my reg tweak would be J. This command works for XP and

Vista.

 

In your case Don, I imagine that since you have three drives and two are for

XP the third drive would be E for your Vista drive (check to make sure in

XP). The command would be E in this case to fix your issue. If this is the

case, paste what is between the two lines into notepad and save as

Offline.txt press enter. Then rename the .TXT extension to .REG and click

OK. Now double click on the reg file and you have just created a hidden

Vista E drive from XP.

 

BTW Clint, you did some nice work in your article and is is very nice. Just

one thing, as you can see the reg key has quotes and a back slashes before

and after DosDevices. Double slash if you create an auto Reg tweak and

single slash if you modify directly from the registry (don't forget to leave

the quotes)

___________________________________________________________________________________

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices\Offline]

"\\DosDevices\\E:"=dword:00000001

___________________________________________________________________________________

 

--

Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

http://www.zardoc.com

XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

 

 

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

news:eEpDpizdIHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Ok, I am in Vista now, and have just checked.

> As I suspected, no I do not have any restore points. Whenever I boot into

> XP, and come back into Vista, even though I am using the bios to boot from

> the drive Vista is on, it still apparently deletes Vista's restore points.

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

>

>

> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:e9J7HezdIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Thanks Lance, I will have to re-check, but I think even without the boot

>> menu, doing it as I am in the bios, I still am losing Vista restore

>> points, I will go check this and advise.

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>> news:ujbA%23vxdIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> No you won't Don. If the first drive is XP in the bios, by default it

>>> will boot into XP without requests. If you want Vista then you must use

>>> the boot menu.

>>>

>>> Vista bootmngr when used with XP can be a real hassle. Because if you

>>> decide to get rid of Vista Xp will not boot anymore if Vista was using

>>> botmngr for both drives.

>>>

>>> Having 2 different O/S boot on two different drives with bios boot,

>>> eliminates Bootmngr and loosing system restore options without having to

>>> hack the registry.

>>> --

>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>

>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I will

>>>> always have to go in and select which drive to boot from correct,

>>>> rather than having it give me the option of which OS to boot to during

>>>> bootup?

>>>>

>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is working

>>>> great as is.

>>>>

>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>

>>>> Don

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is individual.

>>>>>

>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>

>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's Vista.

>>>>> It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>

>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all

>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was intalled on

>>>>>> as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard disk

>>>>>> that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option

>>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like it

>>>>>> is if I need to.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when

>>>>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it usually

>>>>>>> means that the Vista installation did not see your XP drive (was it

>>>>>>> unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be able to boot from

>>>>>>> bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you

>>>>>>> don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from

>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot to

>>>>>>> XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to

>>>>>>> create a start menu.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista

>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual boot

>>>>>>>> environment.

>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to boot

>>>>>>>> to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the other

>>>>>>>> hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows as drive

>>>>>>>> E?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing here,

>>>>>>>> but apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS and

>>>>>>>> I desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest Lance Le Claire
Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

I'm sorry, I had forgotten the LINK.

 

 

The funniest thing is that we are discussing this on 2 threads. LOL

 

Colin, I thought that since you seem to be quite savvy with O/S talk and

since I am French and don't always find the right words, I thought that

saying a reg hack would have been understood by you because I often see this

type of term used.

 

I meant BOOTMGR

 

So let's call it a registry modification.

 

Now, let's make this clear.

 

1.. System is powered on

2.. The CMOS loads the BIOS and then runs POST

3.. Looks for the MBR on the bootable device

4.. Through the MBR the boot sector is located and the BOOTMGR is loaded

5.. BOOTMGR looks for active partition

6.. BOOTMGR reads the BCD file from the \boot directory on the active

partition

7.. The BCD (boot configuration database) contains various configuration

parameters( this information was previously stored in the boot.ini)

8.. When windows vista is selected, BOOTMGR transfer control to the

Windows Loader (winload.exe) or winresume.exe in case the system was

hibernated.

9.. Winloader loads drivers that are set to start at boot and then

transfers the control to the windows kernel.

10.. There is not msgina.dll in windows vista ( the shell draws the login

screen)

With XP it was called NTLDR with boot.ini file

 

With Vista it's called bootmgr with a Boot Configuration Database. to pay

with boot configuration, you need to run in admin mode command bcd.exe

 

Imagine, if we didn't have have VisatBootPro, imagine were we would be if if

BCDwas gone!!

 

Now Don, the reason you have this issue, is because your XP drive was

plugged. That is one amongst many reasons that experienced users prefer to

use bios option than Vista boot manager.

 

As you can see from my pic, BCD store only shows Vista, but can't see XP

because I unplugged the drive when I installed Vista.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Now for those who have installed Vista while XP was plugged in and have the

Volume shadow copy issue and restore points can't be seen,

 

Copy this command into notepad. for each drive that you want to change,

modify the letter of the drive that you wish to be offline. In this case if

it were J, then E in my reg tweak would be J. This command works for XP and

Vista.

 

In your case Don, I imagine that since you have three drives and two are for

XP the third drive would be E for your Vista drive (check to make sure in

XP). The command would be E in this case to fix your issue. If this is the

case, paste what is between the two lines into notepad and save as

Offline.txt press enter. Then rename the .TXT extension to .REG and click

OK. Now double click on the reg file and you have just created a hidden

Vista E drive from XP.

 

BTW Clint, you did some nice work in your article and is is very nice. Just

one thing, as you can see the reg key has quotes and a back slashes before

and after DosDevices. Double slash if you create an auto Reg tweak and

single slash if you modify directly from the registry (don't forget to leave

the quotes)

___________________________________________________________________________________

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices\Offline]

"\\DosDevices\\E:"=dword:00000001

___________________________________________________________________________________

 

--

Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

http://www.zardoc.com

XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:984804EF-7E18-4F3A-9C42-7EE5B22A4553@microsoft.com...

> Adding a registry entry is not a hack. It is, well, adding a registry

> entry. It is simply adding a new definition to the database for the OS to

> use in configuring Windows. That's what regedit is for. A Windows hack

> is quite something else again.

>

> The BCD store (what you are referring to as the botmangr) is written to

> the root of the XP drive when adding Vista to an XP system. Removing the

> BCD store does not cripple XP. Anyway that's where VistaBoot Pro is so

> handy.

>

> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

> news:ujbA%23vxdIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> No you won't Don. If the first drive is XP in the bios, by default it

>> will boot into XP without requests. If you want Vista then you must use

>> the boot menu.

>>

>> Vista bootmngr when used with XP can be a real hassle. Because if you

>> decide to get rid of Vista Xp will not boot anymore if Vista was using

>> botmngr for both drives.

>>

>> Having 2 different O/S boot on two different drives with bios boot,

>> eliminates Bootmngr and loosing system restore options without having to

>> hack the registry.

>> --

>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.zardoc.com

>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>

>>

>>

>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Hey Lance,

>>>

>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I will

>>> always have to go in and select which drive to boot from correct, rather

>>> than having it give me the option of which OS to boot to during bootup?

>>>

>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is working

>>> great as is.

>>>

>>> Many thanks again,

>>>

>>> Don

>>>

>>>

>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is individual.

>>>>

>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>

>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's Vista.

>>>> It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>

>>>> Have fun.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all

>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>

>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was intalled on

>>>>> as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard disk

>>>>> that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>

>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!

>>>>>

>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option

>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like it is

>>>>> if I need to.

>>>>>

>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when

>>>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.

>>>>>

>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>

>>>>> Don

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it usually

>>>>>> means that the Vista installation did not see your XP drive (was it

>>>>>> unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be able to boot from

>>>>>> bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you don't

>>>>>> touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from (usually

>>>>>> F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot to

>>>>>> XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to

>>>>>> create a start menu.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista

>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual boot

>>>>>>> environment.

>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to boot

>>>>>>> to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the other

>>>>>>> hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing here,

>>>>>>> but apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS and I

>>>>>>> desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest Lance Le Claire
Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Colin, please check my last post with a pic included.

 

Thanks,

--

Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

http://www.zardoc.com

XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:B2493172-2E85-4EE3-8665-1D45C955F847@microsoft.com...

> Whether the systems are on partitions on the same drive or on different

> drives is immaterial.

>

> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is individual.

>>

>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>

>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's Vista.

>> It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>

>> Have fun.

>>

>>

>> --

>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.zardoc.com

>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>

>>

>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all parition

>>> letters intact as they should be.

>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>

>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was intalled on as

>>> the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard disk

>>> that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>

>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!

>>>

>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option between

>>> Vista and XP upon booting?

>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like it is

>>> if I need to.

>>>

>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when

>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.

>>>

>>> Many thanks again,

>>>

>>> Don

>>>

>>>

>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>

>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it usually

>>>> means that the Vista installation did not see your XP drive (was it

>>>> unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be able to boot from

>>>> bios to the drive you want.

>>>>

>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you don't

>>>> touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>

>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from (usually

>>>> F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>

>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot to XP.

>>>> If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>

>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to create

>>>> a start menu.

>>>>

>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>

>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista Ultimate,

>>>>> retail full version, in what I thought was a dual boot environment.

>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>

>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to boot to,

>>>>> it only boots into Vista.

>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the other

>>>>> hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows as drive E?

>>>>>

>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing here, but

>>>>> apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>

>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS and I

>>>>> desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Don

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

XP is my default boot drive, it is installed on my first sata hard drive,

and that is the boot order I have selected in the bios, which is what I

want.

I want it to boot into XP by default, I only want to boot to Vista, by

making the selection to do so.

 

Ok,while in Vista, below is what is shown under computer:

 

Vista = C

XP = E

 

I did not list the other partitions, as I did not think they would be

relevant.

 

Obviously, when booted into XP, the drive letters are different, XP then

becomes C, and Vista becomes L.

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

 

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

news:%23gp37t0dIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> When you have the legacy entry set up via VBP using your default boot

> process, which you said was Vista, you can set the legacy drive letter to

> C or you can copy the three files to the Vista drive then change the

> boot.ini if necessary. If you gave the information you have in Disk

> Management from Vista it would be easier to help. When you set up the

> legacy drive you did not have it pointing to the partition with the ntldr

> file on it. You can add the files where you have it pointed or repoint

> the legacy entry.

>

> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:uLnOXm0dIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Not yet, I don't think I quite understood exactly how to do it, I will

>> re-read again and see what I can do.

>>

>> I now have managed to get the choice to load either Vista or XP, but only

>> after hitting escape to enter my bios menu and choosing the Vista hard

>> drive to boot from, can't seem to get it to do it from my first hard

>> drive, the one XP is installed on.

>>

>> I reckon I better quit messing with VBP while I am ahead before I screw

>> something up...

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>>

>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

>> news:OhtPlh0dIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> If you run VBP from the XP partition the way you have changed boot

>>> priority 'on the fly', you will overwrite the XP boot process. You

>>> would be able to reverse it later, if you actually can get back into VBP

>>> on that drive. Have you copied the files I recommended earlier?

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...

>>>> Sure. Won't hurt.

>>>>

>>>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the

>>>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.

>>>>

>>>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should

>>>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you

>>>> installed the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the

>>>> same way.

>>>>

>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.

>>>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose

>>>>> the third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into

>>>>> Vista.

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I

>>>>> installed VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I

>>>>> install it and run it from the XP install instead?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Don

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader

>>>>>> and All Drives.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either

>>>>>>> was doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what

>>>>>>> I was supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive

>>>>>>>> and then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is

>>>>>>>> free and uses a GUI.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new

>>>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing

>>>>>>>>> " Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose

>>>>>>>>> from.

>>>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my

>>>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from.

>>>>>>>>> Based on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the

>>>>>>>>> boot menu option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did

>>>>>>>>> not.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition,

>>>>>>>>> which is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as

>>>>>>>>> "C" partition.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to

>>>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will

>>>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and

>>>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and

>>>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk

>>>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set

>>>>>>>>>> the XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the

>>>>>>>>>> Vista dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real

>>>>>>>>>> problem) and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on

>>>>>>>>>> the second drive or partition.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect

>>>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any

>>>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and

>>>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard

>>>>>>>>>>> drive, it would automatically give me that option during boot,

>>>>>>>>>>> but it didn't.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment

>>>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup

>>>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the

>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use

>>>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other

>>>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you

>>>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need

>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I

>>>>>>>>>>>>> do have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bitlocker feature as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify

>>>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for

>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is

>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine as it is still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a

>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive

>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3, then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>> into rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> but for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am

>>>>>>>>>>>>> not understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be

>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, I will always have to go in and select which drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot from correct, rather than having it give me the option

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of which OS to boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unplugged when installing the Vista Ultimate full version

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the new drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS to boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Yes, that is corret, I am running 64 bit Vista Ultimate.

 

Thanks,

 

--

Don

 

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:59238B24-CF27-49E0-95A2-87381B0DB854@microsoft.com...

> Actually, I just realized you are probably talking about Vista x64 and

> that won't install from an XP desktop. Sorry about that.

>

> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23XNYqU0dIHA.5560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Dang, still did not work.

>>

>> I installed VistaBootPro in Windows XP.

>>

>> Installed Vista Bootloader using system bootloader tab, selected C

>> drive, which is what my XP is installed, and still just boots directly

>> into XP, no boot menu option to choose XP or Vista.

>>

>> I just can't seem to get this to work properly in that way.

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...

>>> Sure. Won't hurt.

>>>

>>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the

>>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.

>>>

>>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should

>>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you

>>> installed the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the

>>> same way.

>>>

>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.

>>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the

>>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed

>>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and

>>>> run it from the XP install instead?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Don

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader

>>>>> and All Drives.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was

>>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I

>>>>>> was supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and

>>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free

>>>>>>> and uses a GUI.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new

>>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing

>>>>>>>> " Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.

>>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my

>>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from.

>>>>>>>> Based on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot

>>>>>>>> menu option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition,

>>>>>>>> which is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"

>>>>>>>> partition.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to

>>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will

>>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and

>>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and

>>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk

>>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set

>>>>>>>>> the XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the

>>>>>>>>> Vista dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real

>>>>>>>>> problem) and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on

>>>>>>>>> the second drive or partition.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect

>>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any

>>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and

>>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard

>>>>>>>>>> drive, it would automatically give me that option during boot,

>>>>>>>>>> but it didn't.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment

>>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup

>>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the

>>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use

>>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other

>>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you

>>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to

>>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do

>>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker

>>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify

>>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for

>>>>>>>>>>>> drive 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine

>>>>>>>>>>>> as it is still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot

>>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,

>>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times,

>>>>>>>>>>>> I find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into

>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but

>>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not

>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be

>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not

>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's

>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unplugged when installing the Vista Ultimate full version

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the new drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Thanks Lance,

 

I just got back in from having to run and take care of something

unexpectedly, I will try and take this in as soon as I can , looks like some

good info there.

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

 

"Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

news:OsN0NG2dIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> I'm sorry, I had forgotten the LINK.

>

>

> The funniest thing is that we are discussing this on 2 threads. LOL

>

> Colin, I thought that since you seem to be quite savvy with O/S talk and

> since I am French and don't always find the right words, I thought that

> saying a reg hack would have been understood by you because I often see

> this

> type of term used.

>

> I meant BOOTMGR

>

> So let's call it a registry modification.

>

> Now, let's make this clear.

>

> 1.. System is powered on

> 2.. The CMOS loads the BIOS and then runs POST

> 3.. Looks for the MBR on the bootable device

> 4.. Through the MBR the boot sector is located and the BOOTMGR is loaded

> 5.. BOOTMGR looks for active partition

> 6.. BOOTMGR reads the BCD file from the \boot directory on the active

> partition

> 7.. The BCD (boot configuration database) contains various configuration

> parameters( this information was previously stored in the boot.ini)

> 8.. When windows vista is selected, BOOTMGR transfer control to the

> Windows Loader (winload.exe) or winresume.exe in case the system was

> hibernated.

> 9.. Winloader loads drivers that are set to start at boot and then

> transfers the control to the windows kernel.

> 10.. There is not msgina.dll in windows vista ( the shell draws the login

> screen)

> With XP it was called NTLDR with boot.ini file

>

> With Vista it's called bootmgr with a Boot Configuration Database. to pay

> with boot configuration, you need to run in admin mode command bcd.exe

>

> Imagine, if we didn't have have VisatBootPro, imagine were we would be if

> if

> BCDwas gone!!

>

> Now Don, the reason you have this issue, is because your XP drive was

> plugged. That is one amongst many reasons that experienced users prefer to

> use bios option than Vista boot manager.

>

> As you can see from my pic, BCD store only shows Vista, but can't see XP

> because I unplugged the drive when I installed Vista.

> _________________________________________________________________________________________________________

> Now for those who have installed Vista while XP was plugged in and have

> the

> Volume shadow copy issue and restore points can't be seen,

>

> Copy this command into notepad. for each drive that you want to change,

> modify the letter of the drive that you wish to be offline. In this case

> if

> it were J, then E in my reg tweak would be J. This command works for XP

> and

> Vista.

>

> In your case Don, I imagine that since you have three drives and two are

> for

> XP the third drive would be E for your Vista drive (check to make sure in

> XP). The command would be E in this case to fix your issue. If this is the

> case, paste what is between the two lines into notepad and save as

> Offline.txt press enter. Then rename the .TXT extension to .REG and click

> OK. Now double click on the reg file and you have just created a hidden

> Vista E drive from XP.

>

> BTW Clint, you did some nice work in your article and is is very nice.

> Just

> one thing, as you can see the reg key has quotes and a back slashes before

> and after DosDevices. Double slash if you create an auto Reg tweak and

> single slash if you modify directly from the registry (don't forget to

> leave

> the quotes)

> ___________________________________________________________________________________

> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

>

> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices\Offline]

> "\\DosDevices\\E:"=dword:00000001

> ___________________________________________________________________________________

>

> --

> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

> http://www.zardoc.com

> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:984804EF-7E18-4F3A-9C42-7EE5B22A4553@microsoft.com...

>> Adding a registry entry is not a hack. It is, well, adding a registry

>> entry. It is simply adding a new definition to the database for the OS

>> to

>> use in configuring Windows. That's what regedit is for. A Windows hack

>> is quite something else again.

>>

>> The BCD store (what you are referring to as the botmangr) is written to

>> the root of the XP drive when adding Vista to an XP system. Removing the

>> BCD store does not cripple XP. Anyway that's where VistaBoot Pro is so

>> handy.

>>

>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>> news:ujbA%23vxdIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> No you won't Don. If the first drive is XP in the bios, by default it

>>> will boot into XP without requests. If you want Vista then you must use

>>> the boot menu.

>>>

>>> Vista bootmngr when used with XP can be a real hassle. Because if you

>>> decide to get rid of Vista Xp will not boot anymore if Vista was using

>>> botmngr for both drives.

>>>

>>> Having 2 different O/S boot on two different drives with bios boot,

>>> eliminates Bootmngr and loosing system restore options without having to

>>> hack the registry.

>>> --

>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>

>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I will

>>>> always have to go in and select which drive to boot from correct,

>>>> rather

>>>> than having it give me the option of which OS to boot to during bootup?

>>>>

>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is working

>>>> great as is.

>>>>

>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>

>>>> Don

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is individual.

>>>>>

>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>

>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's Vista.

>>>>> It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>

>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all

>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was intalled on

>>>>>> as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard disk

>>>>>> that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option

>>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like it

>>>>>> is

>>>>>> if I need to.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when

>>>>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it usually

>>>>>>> means that the Vista installation did not see your XP drive (was it

>>>>>>> unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be able to boot from

>>>>>>> bios to the drive you want.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you

>>>>>>> don't

>>>>>>> touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from

>>>>>>> (usually

>>>>>>> F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot to

>>>>>>> XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to

>>>>>>> create a start menu.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista

>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual boot

>>>>>>>> environment.

>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to boot

>>>>>>>> to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the other

>>>>>>>> hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows as drive

>>>>>>>> E?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing here,

>>>>>>>> but apparently I did something I should not have.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS and

>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>> desperately need to be able to get back to it.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest John Barnes
Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Information is not drive letter. Information is what is in the parentheses

for each partition on each hard drive.

Do this from what ever system you boot to when you have your boot priority

the way you want to leave it. (it is not necessary to have the XP drive as

the 0 drive to have XP your default system, in fact if you have your boot

manager on the Vista drive, and add the legacy entry from there, you will be

able to remove the XP system more easily once you make that decision in the

future)

Let the system boot default the way you have the drives set up with the XP

drive as the 0 drive.

Using VBP add or edit the Vista BCD. Add a legacy system entry pointed to C

Reboot. Select the legacy entry. What messages if any do you get.

Alternative. Run startup repair from the Vista DVD (also with the system

set up with the XP drive as your 'system' drive.

It makes NO difference which drive you have as your system drive (first in

boot priority {0} and active primary). You must have the Vista boot manager

on it, it must contain a legacy system entry and you can use VBP to set the

timeout and default system. The legacy entry must point to the ntldr and

boot.ini and ntdetect.com must also be on the root of that partition.

Good luck. At one point you had the legacy entry but was pointed to the

wrong drive letter. Change the drive letter. C probably would have worked

but with no info it's a guess.

You have all the information you need to do it. IT IS EASY and SIMPLE.

Adios

 

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

news:esBAGt2dIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> XP is my default boot drive, it is installed on my first sata hard drive,

> and that is the boot order I have selected in the bios, which is what I

> want.

> I want it to boot into XP by default, I only want to boot to Vista, by

> making the selection to do so.

>

> Ok,while in Vista, below is what is shown under computer:

>

> Vista = C

> XP = E

>

> I did not list the other partitions, as I did not think they would be

> relevant.

>

> Obviously, when booted into XP, the drive letters are different, XP then

> becomes C, and Vista becomes L.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> --

> Don

>

>

>

> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

> news:%23gp37t0dIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> When you have the legacy entry set up via VBP using your default boot

>> process, which you said was Vista, you can set the legacy drive letter to

>> C or you can copy the three files to the Vista drive then change the

>> boot.ini if necessary. If you gave the information you have in Disk

>> Management from Vista it would be easier to help. When you set up the

>> legacy drive you did not have it pointing to the partition with the ntldr

>> file on it. You can add the files where you have it pointed or repoint

>> the legacy entry.

>>

>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:uLnOXm0dIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Not yet, I don't think I quite understood exactly how to do it, I will

>>> re-read again and see what I can do.

>>>

>>> I now have managed to get the choice to load either Vista or XP, but

>>> only after hitting escape to enter my bios menu and choosing the Vista

>>> hard drive to boot from, can't seem to get it to do it from my first

>>> hard drive, the one XP is installed on.

>>>

>>> I reckon I better quit messing with VBP while I am ahead before I screw

>>> something up...

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --

>>> Don

>>>

>>>

>>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

>>> news:OhtPlh0dIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> If you run VBP from the XP partition the way you have changed boot

>>>> priority 'on the fly', you will overwrite the XP boot process. You

>>>> would be able to reverse it later, if you actually can get back into

>>>> VBP on that drive. Have you copied the files I recommended earlier?

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Sure. Won't hurt.

>>>>>

>>>>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from

>>>>> the XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do

>>>>> that.

>>>>>

>>>>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you

>>>>> should still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you

>>>>> installed the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP

>>>>> the same way.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no

>>>>>>difference.

>>>>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose

>>>>>> the third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into

>>>>>> Vista.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I

>>>>>> installed VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I

>>>>>> install it and run it from the XP install instead?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader

>>>>>>> and All Drives.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either

>>>>>>>> was doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite

>>>>>>>> what I was supposed to do, never could get it to do it.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive

>>>>>>>>> and then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is

>>>>>>>>> free and uses a GUI.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new

>>>>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running

>>>>>>>>>> showing " Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to

>>>>>>>>>> choose from.

>>>>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit

>>>>>>>>>> my bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from.

>>>>>>>>>> Based on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the

>>>>>>>>>> boot menu option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did

>>>>>>>>>> not.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition,

>>>>>>>>>> which is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as

>>>>>>>>>> "C" partition.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore

>>>>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to

>>>>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you

>>>>>>>>>>> will have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows"

>>>>>>>>>>> and "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP

>>>>>>>>>>> desktop and simply select your desired partition for

>>>>>>>>>>> installation your disk drive lettering will align between the

>>>>>>>>>>> two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot drive and then

>>>>>>>>>>> boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get variation of the

>>>>>>>>>>> drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the boot menu

>>>>>>>>>>> after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect

>>>>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any

>>>>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and

>>>>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.

>>>>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard

>>>>>>>>>>>> drive, it would automatically give me that option during boot,

>>>>>>>>>>>> but it didn't.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment

>>>>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup

>>>>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> use the escape key or special boot managers or anything else

>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you

>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you install a second OS on a computer.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bitlocker feature as well.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine as it is still going to be my main OS for a while.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3, then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times, I find myself wishing I could just select which OS to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot into rather than going through the above steps.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am not understanding exactly how to do it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, I will always have to go in and select which drive to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot from correct, rather than having it give me the option

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of which OS to boot to during bootup?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with all parition letters intact as they should be.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it like it is if I need to.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unplugged when installing the Vista Ultimate full version

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the new drive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot, it usually means that the Vista installation did

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not see your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just fine. You should be able to boot from bios to the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive you want.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you don't touch anything XP will boot first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS to boot to, it only boots into Vista.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista it shows as drive E?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

Posted

Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

 

Thanks for taking the time to explain further John.

 

I will read carefully and see what I can do with the information when I can,

and let y'all know how I make out.

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

news:e9xNRh6dIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Information is not drive letter. Information is what is in the

> parentheses for each partition on each hard drive.

> Do this from what ever system you boot to when you have your boot priority

> the way you want to leave it. (it is not necessary to have the XP drive as

> the 0 drive to have XP your default system, in fact if you have your boot

> manager on the Vista drive, and add the legacy entry from there, you will

> be able to remove the XP system more easily once you make that decision in

> the future)

> Let the system boot default the way you have the drives set up with the XP

> drive as the 0 drive.

> Using VBP add or edit the Vista BCD. Add a legacy system entry pointed to

> C Reboot. Select the legacy entry. What messages if any do you get.

> Alternative. Run startup repair from the Vista DVD (also with the system

> set up with the XP drive as your 'system' drive.

> It makes NO difference which drive you have as your system drive (first in

> boot priority {0} and active primary). You must have the Vista boot

> manager on it, it must contain a legacy system entry and you can use VBP

> to set the timeout and default system. The legacy entry must point to the

> ntldr and boot.ini and ntdetect.com must also be on the root of that

> partition.

> Good luck. At one point you had the legacy entry but was pointed to the

> wrong drive letter. Change the drive letter. C probably would have

> worked but with no info it's a guess.

> You have all the information you need to do it. IT IS EASY and SIMPLE.

> Adios

>

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