Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and

Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when multi-booting

Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I

just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve

the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own notes

in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP Pro

x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more

than just dual-booting.

 

The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open Office,

etc.

 

Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

first", its all in the doc already.

 

Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying, reposting,

etc.

 

OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

[Guest DevilsPGD]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

In message <6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com> "Colin

Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

>Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open Office,

>etc.

 

Why not just post the text?

[Guest Dennis Pack]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

Colin:

Thanks for writing the procedure. I use BitLocker but the

availability is limited. Have a great day.

 

--

Dennis Pack

XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64

Office Professional Plus 2007

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and

> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

> multi-booting

> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I

> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve

> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

> notes

> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

> Pro

> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more

> than just dual-booting.

>

> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

> Office,

> etc.

>

> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

> first", its all in the doc already.

>

> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

> reposting,

> etc.

>

> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

Folks who don't care about the issue probably prefer I didn't. Anyway, its

easier to just save an attachment than it is to cut paste it out to a doc.

Besides, Word gave me a lot better formatting control than does writing in

this window. Posts soon scroll out of sight anyway so I saved it for

attachment on other occasions.

 

"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message

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> In message <6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com> "Colin

> Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>

>>The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

>>Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>>Office,

>>etc.

>

> Why not just post the text?

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

You're welcome. Yes, a lot of users don't have Bitlocker. Besides, the

procedure can protect non-system Vista volumes too, like a Vista backup

partition (CompletePC Backup images).

 

"Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message

news:EAFFA373-DE37-4514-870F-DBA1D341E110@microsoft.com...

> Colin:

> Thanks for writing the procedure. I use BitLocker but the

> availability is limited. Have a great day.

>

> --

> Dennis Pack

> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64

> Office Professional Plus 2007

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and

>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>> multi-booting

>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I

>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve

>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>> notes

>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

>> Pro

>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more

>> than just dual-booting.

>>

>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>> Office,

>> etc.

>>

>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>

>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>> reposting,

>> etc.

>>

>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>

>

[Guest DevilsPGD]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

In message <57184A39-59AE-40FC-A313-82B93BA4565D@microsoft.com> "Colin

Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>Folks who don't care about the issue probably prefer I didn't.

 

They would? How would it have been any different then posting it as an

attachment?

>Anyway, its

>easier to just save an attachment than it is to cut paste it out to a doc.

 

Pasting isn't much a challenge on my computer. Perhaps I missed

something?

>Besides, Word gave me a lot better formatting control than does writing in

>this window.

 

What formatting is needed?

>Posts soon scroll out of sight anyway so I saved it for

>attachment on other occasions.

 

And attachments don't?

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

If you are unable to read the doc in any software you have I will paste it

in. Then someone can complain about long posts.

 

"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message

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> In message <57184A39-59AE-40FC-A313-82B93BA4565D@microsoft.com> "Colin

> Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>

>>Folks who don't care about the issue probably prefer I didn't.

>

> They would? How would it have been any different then posting it as an

> attachment?

>

>>Anyway, its

>>easier to just save an attachment than it is to cut paste it out to a doc.

>

> Pasting isn't much a challenge on my computer. Perhaps I missed

> something?

>

>>Besides, Word gave me a lot better formatting control than does writing in

>>this window.

>

> What formatting is needed?

>

>>Posts soon scroll out of sight anyway so I saved it for

>>attachment on other occasions.

>

> And attachments don't?

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

Like you said, Colin, the viewer is available as a free download. Thanks

for the effort.

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:A7256714-871C-41CA-84DF-72F682D8C4F8@microsoft.com...

> If you are unable to read the doc in any software you have I will paste it

> in. Then someone can complain about long posts.

>

> "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message

> news:2qm1s3d48e6bvnu1qse848u5mfeergskno@4ax.com...

>> In message <57184A39-59AE-40FC-A313-82B93BA4565D@microsoft.com> "Colin

>> Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>>

>>>Folks who don't care about the issue probably prefer I didn't.

>>

>> They would? How would it have been any different then posting it as an

>> attachment?

>>

>>>Anyway, its

>>>easier to just save an attachment than it is to cut paste it out to a

>>>doc.

>>

>> Pasting isn't much a challenge on my computer. Perhaps I missed

>> something?

>>

>>>Besides, Word gave me a lot better formatting control than does writing

>>>in

>>>this window.

>>

>> What formatting is needed?

>>

>>>Posts soon scroll out of sight anyway so I saved it for

>>>attachment on other occasions.

>>

>> And attachments don't?

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

yw

 

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

news:OaIPakpdIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Like you said, Colin, the viewer is available as a free download. Thanks

> for the effort.

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:A7256714-871C-41CA-84DF-72F682D8C4F8@microsoft.com...

>> If you are unable to read the doc in any software you have I will paste

>> it in. Then someone can complain about long posts.

>>

>> "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote in message

>> news:2qm1s3d48e6bvnu1qse848u5mfeergskno@4ax.com...

>>> In message <57184A39-59AE-40FC-A313-82B93BA4565D@microsoft.com> "Colin

>>> Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>>>

>>>>Folks who don't care about the issue probably prefer I didn't.

>>>

>>> They would? How would it have been any different then posting it as an

>>> attachment?

>>>

>>>>Anyway, its

>>>>easier to just save an attachment than it is to cut paste it out to a

>>>>doc.

>>>

>>> Pasting isn't much a challenge on my computer. Perhaps I missed

>>> something?

>>>

>>>>Besides, Word gave me a lot better formatting control than does writing

>>>>in

>>>>this window.

>>>

>>> What formatting is needed?

>>>

>>>>Posts soon scroll out of sight anyway so I saved it for

>>>>attachment on other occasions.

>>>

>>> And attachments don't?

>>

>

[Guest Lance Le Claire]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

I congratulate you on your hard work (i really do) but man it's really

complicated for nothing if you have a bios boot option. Choosing from one

screen or another isn't much different.

 

--

Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

http://www.zardoc.com

XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and

> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

> multi-booting

> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I

> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve

> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

> notes

> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

> Pro

> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more

> than just dual-booting.

>

> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

> Office,

> etc.

>

> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

> first", its all in the doc already.

>

> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

> reposting,

> etc.

>

> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

The BIOS boot option does not hide the drive.

 

"Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

news:evb0m1xdIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>I congratulate you on your hard work (i really do) but man it's really

>complicated for nothing if you have a bios boot option. Choosing from one

>screen or another isn't much different.

>

> --

> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

> http://www.zardoc.com

> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and

>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>> multi-booting

>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I

>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve

>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>> notes

>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

>> Pro

>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more

>> than just dual-booting.

>>

>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>> Office,

>> etc.

>>

>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>

>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>> reposting,

>> etc.

>>

>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

Well it means that you can use a standard boot menu with as few as just one

new registry key and thereafter not be concerned about dual-booting any more

than you would any other two Windows operating systems. It means you don't

have to enter the BIOS each time you want to change operating systems.

 

It only looks complicated if you are new to the registry or unclear about

the issue. Someone well experienced in such things needs only the specifics

of the registry key and would not need any of the rest of it.

 

Something like "Create

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices\Offline\DosDevices\D: ((DWORD),

where "D:" is the Vista drive letter) with a value of 1 and then reboot"

gets the job done. That would intimidate many so I spelled it all out. A

kind of "Fixing the volsnap.sys issue for Dummies."

 

"Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

news:evb0m1xdIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>I congratulate you on your hard work (i really do) but man it's really

>complicated for nothing if you have a bios boot option. Choosing from one

>screen or another isn't much different.

>

> --

> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

> http://www.zardoc.com

> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and

>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>> multi-booting

>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I

>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve

>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>> notes

>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

>> Pro

>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more

>> than just dual-booting.

>>

>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>> Office,

>> etc.

>>

>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>

>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>> reposting,

>> etc.

>>

>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>

>

[Guest Lance Le Claire]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

Colin,

 

I understand what you are saying but you don't have to enter the bios for

dual boot with new motherboards.

 

A bios boot menu is the same as a multiboot menu with a microsoft O/S. You

press one key and you have a boot menu.

 

If you change operating systems often your choice is good but I would use

BootPro to solve that.

 

Why not use VistabootPro instead??

--

Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

http://www.zardoc.com

XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:0F913803-1A1A-4C92-A769-DACD2AD00C40@microsoft.com...

> Well it means that you can use a standard boot menu with as few as just

> one new registry key and thereafter not be concerned about dual-booting

> any more than you would any other two Windows operating systems. It means

> you don't have to enter the BIOS each time you want to change operating

> systems.

>

> It only looks complicated if you are new to the registry or unclear about

> the issue. Someone well experienced in such things needs only the

> specifics of the registry key and would not need any of the rest of it.

>

> Something like "Create

> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices\Offline\DosDevices\D: ((DWORD),

> where "D:" is the Vista drive letter) with a value of 1 and then reboot"

> gets the job done. That would intimidate many so I spelled it all out. A

> kind of "Fixing the volsnap.sys issue for Dummies."

>

> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

> news:evb0m1xdIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>I congratulate you on your hard work (i really do) but man it's really

>>complicated for nothing if you have a bios boot option. Choosing from one

>>screen or another isn't much different.

>>

>> --

>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.zardoc.com

>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP

>>> and

>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>>> multi-booting

>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if

>>> I

>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to

>>> resolve

>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>>> notes

>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

>>> Pro

>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for

>>> more

>>> than just dual-booting.

>>>

>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>>> Office,

>>> etc.

>>>

>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>>

>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>>> reposting,

>>> etc.

>>>

>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>>

>>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

VistaBoot Pro cannot prevent the volsnap.sys issue. The registry entry is

simple. No matter the boot method, if XP can see the Vista drive it will

wipe out VSS files. It isn't about booting. It is about protecting Vista's

recovery facilities. You may be following this as a boot issue. It isn't.

It's about hiding volumes.

 

"Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

news:%23$PsAQ1dIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Colin,

>

> I understand what you are saying but you don't have to enter the bios for

> dual boot with new motherboards.

>

> A bios boot menu is the same as a multiboot menu with a microsoft O/S. You

> press one key and you have a boot menu.

>

> If you change operating systems often your choice is good but I would use

> BootPro to solve that.

>

> Why not use VistabootPro instead??

> --

> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

> http://www.zardoc.com

> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:0F913803-1A1A-4C92-A769-DACD2AD00C40@microsoft.com...

>> Well it means that you can use a standard boot menu with as few as just

>> one new registry key and thereafter not be concerned about dual-booting

>> any more than you would any other two Windows operating systems. It

>> means you don't have to enter the BIOS each time you want to change

>> operating systems.

>>

>> It only looks complicated if you are new to the registry or unclear about

>> the issue. Someone well experienced in such things needs only the

>> specifics of the registry key and would not need any of the rest of it.

>>

>> Something like "Create

>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices\Offline\DosDevices\D: ((DWORD),

>> where "D:" is the Vista drive letter) with a value of 1 and then reboot"

>> gets the job done. That would intimidate many so I spelled it all out.

>> A kind of "Fixing the volsnap.sys issue for Dummies."

>>

>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>> news:evb0m1xdIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>I congratulate you on your hard work (i really do) but man it's really

>>>complicated for nothing if you have a bios boot option. Choosing from one

>>>screen or another isn't much different.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP

>>>> and

>>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>>>> multi-booting

>>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if

>>>> I

>>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to

>>>> resolve

>>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>>>> notes

>>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

>>>> Pro

>>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for

>>>> more

>>>> than just dual-booting.

>>>>

>>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the

>>>> Word

>>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>>>> Office,

>>>> etc.

>>>>

>>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>>>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>>>

>>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>>>> reposting,

>>>> etc.

>>>>

>>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

[Guest Lance Le Claire]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

No unplugging it before you install Vista does though.

--

Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

http://www.zardoc.com

XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

 

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

news:%23nKG98xdIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> The BIOS boot option does not hide the drive.

>

> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

> news:evb0m1xdIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>I congratulate you on your hard work (i really do) but man it's really

>>complicated for nothing if you have a bios boot option. Choosing from one

>>screen or another isn't much different.

>>

>> --

>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.zardoc.com

>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP

>>> and

>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>>> multi-booting

>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if

>>> I

>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to

>>> resolve

>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>>> notes

>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

>>> Pro

>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for

>>> more

>>> than just dual-booting.

>>>

>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>>> Office,

>>> etc.

>>>

>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>>

>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>>> reposting,

>>> etc.

>>>

>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>>

>>

>

[Guest John Barnes]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

As soon as you plug it back in it is visible again unless the hidden bit is

set using the registry entry Colin mentions or using a third party partition

manager to hide it. Scrambling it with bitlocker is another way of hiding,

but otherwise xp sees the Vista drive and you have the vss problem.

 

"Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

news:eVefRk1dIHA.4588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> No unplugging it before you install Vista does though.

> --

> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

> http://www.zardoc.com

> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>

> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message

> news:%23nKG98xdIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> The BIOS boot option does not hide the drive.

>>

>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

>> news:evb0m1xdIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>I congratulate you on your hard work (i really do) but man it's really

>>>complicated for nothing if you have a bios boot option. Choosing from one

>>>screen or another isn't much different.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.zardoc.com

>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP

>>>> and

>>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>>>> multi-booting

>>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if

>>>> I

>>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to

>>>> resolve

>>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>>>> notes

>>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

>>>> Pro

>>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for

>>>> more

>>>> than just dual-booting.

>>>>

>>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the

>>>> Word

>>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>>>> Office,

>>>> etc.

>>>>

>>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>>>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>>>

>>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>>>> reposting,

>>>> etc.

>>>>

>>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

[Guest Lance Le Claire]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

The funniest thing is that we are discussing this on 2 threads. LOL

 

Colin, I thought that since you seem to be quite savvy with O/S talk and

since I am French and don't always find the right words, I thought that

saying a reg hack would have been understood by you because I often see this

type of term used.

 

I meant BOOTMGR

 

So let's call it a registry modification.

 

Now, let's make this clear.

 

1.. System is powered on

2.. The CMOS loads the BIOS and then runs POST

3.. Looks for the MBR on the bootable device

4.. Through the MBR the boot sector is located and the BOOTMGR is loaded

5.. BOOTMGR looks for active partition

6.. BOOTMGR reads the BCD file from the \boot directory on the active

partition

7.. The BCD (boot configuration database) contains various configuration

parameters( this information was previously stored in the boot.ini)

8.. When windows vista is selected, BOOTMGR transfer control to the

Windows Loader (winload.exe) or winresume.exe in case the system was

hibernated.

9.. Winloader loads drivers that are set to start at boot and then

transfers the control to the windows kernel.

10.. There is not msgina.dll in windows vista ( the shell draws the login

screen)

With XP it was called NTLDR with boot.ini file

 

With Vista it's called bootmgr with a Boot Configuration Database. to pay

with boot configuration, you need to run in admin mode command bcd.exe

 

Imagine, if we didn't have have VisatBootPro, imagine were we would be if if

BCDwas gone!!

 

Now Don, the reason you have this issue, is because your XP drive was

plugged. That is one amongst many reasons that experienced users prefer to

use bios option than Vista boot manager.

 

As you can see from my pic, BCD store only shows Vista, but can't see XP

because I unplugged the drive when I installed Vista.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Now for those who have installed Vista while XP was plugged in and have the

Volume shadow copy issue and restore points can't be seen,

 

Copy this command into notepad. for each drive that you want to change,

modify the letter of the drive that you wish to be offline. In this case if

it were J, then E in my reg tweak would be J. This command works for XP and

Vista.

 

In your case Don, I imagine that since you have three drives and two are for

XP the third drive would be E for your Vista drive (check to make sure in

XP). The command would be E in this case to fix your issue. If this is the

case, paste what is between the two lines into notepad and save as

Offline.txt press enter. Then rename the .TXT extension to .REG and click

OK. Now double click on the reg file and you have just created a hidden

Vista E drive from XP.

 

BTW Clint, you did some nice work in your article and is is very nice. Just

one thing, as you can see the reg key has quotes and a back slashes before

and after DosDevices. Double slash if you create an auto Reg tweak and

single slash if you modify directly from the registry (don't forget to leave

the quotes)

___________________________________________________________________________________

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices\Offline]

"\\DosDevices\\E:"=dword:00000001

___________________________________________________________________________________

 

--

Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

http://www.zardoc.com

XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:0F913803-1A1A-4C92-A769-DACD2AD00C40@microsoft.com...

> Well it means that you can use a standard boot menu with as few as just

> one new registry key and thereafter not be concerned about dual-booting

> any more than you would any other two Windows operating systems. It means

> you don't have to enter the BIOS each time you want to change operating

> systems.

>

> It only looks complicated if you are new to the registry or unclear about

> the issue. Someone well experienced in such things needs only the

> specifics of the registry key and would not need any of the rest of it.

>

> Something like "Create

> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices\Offline\DosDevices\D: ((DWORD),

> where "D:" is the Vista drive letter) with a value of 1 and then reboot"

> gets the job done. That would intimidate many so I spelled it all out. A

> kind of "Fixing the volsnap.sys issue for Dummies."

>

> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

> news:evb0m1xdIHA.6136@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>I congratulate you on your hard work (i really do) but man it's really

>>complicated for nothing if you have a bios boot option. Choosing from one

>>screen or another isn't much different.

>>

>> --

>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.zardoc.com

>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP

>>> and

>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>>> multi-booting

>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if

>>> I

>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to

>>> resolve

>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>>> notes

>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

>>> Pro

>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for

>>> more

>>> than just dual-booting.

>>>

>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>>> Office,

>>> etc.

>>>

>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>>

>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>>> reposting,

>>> etc.

>>>

>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>>

>>

>

[Guest Dennis Pack]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

Colin:

I tested your "Greypaper". There is one minor error. When you used

"DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:", it should have been "\DosDevices\I:"

and "\DosDevices\J:. I saved a copy of your "Greypaper" with the

modification to use for multi-boot systems. Thanks again. Have a great day.

--

Dennis Pack

XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64

Office Professional Plus 2007

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and

> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

> multi-booting

> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I

> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve

> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

> notes

> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

> Pro

> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more

> than just dual-booting.

>

> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

> Office,

> etc.

>

> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

> first", its all in the doc already.

>

> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

> reposting,

> etc.

>

> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

You're welcome, and thanks.

 

"Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message

news:37133F25-4924-4943-B6BA-1D922E566BDC@microsoft.com...

> Colin:

> I tested your "Greypaper". There is one minor error. When you used

> "DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:", it should have been "\DosDevices\I:"

> and "\DosDevices\J:. I saved a copy of your "Greypaper" with the

> modification to use for multi-boot systems. Thanks again. Have a great

> day.

> --

> Dennis Pack

> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64

> Office Professional Plus 2007

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and

>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>> multi-booting

>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I

>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve

>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>> notes

>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

>> Pro

>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more

>> than just dual-booting.

>>

>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>> Office,

>> etc.

>>

>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>

>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>> reposting,

>> etc.

>>

>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>

>

[Guest Lance Le Claire]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

Hi,

 

I just want to make one thing quite clear (and as always, please excuse my

English grammar),

 

I think that Colin Barnhorst wrote a great gripper about Volume Snapshot

system file issues with Windows System Restore.

 

He touches a point that I have never had an issue with because I don't like

Windows restore and I use Acronis True Image.

 

Nevertheless, I read the article and it is quite detailed and well explained

as to why Vista restore points are erased if you boot back into XP and then

return to Vista.

 

I just wanted to point out that I only have a difference of opinion with

Colin on the need of using Vista boot manager VS boot bios options. (and

BTW, as you can see I made a mistake when I wrote to access Boot manager the

command was bad.exe (I meant credit /?)

 

So Colin, again I want thank you for the hard work that you did and tell you

that your grey paper is tried and tested (just have to fix the slash and

quote issues :-) and works like a charm. I will add it in my notes as a

quick fix for this issue.

 

I really have fun exchanging issues with other users who have experience and

do (or see) things from another perspective, because my way, is not always

the best (or right) way.

 

Thanks,

 

--

Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

http://www.zardoc.com

XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:319B5E89-6747-49D3-8030-B1A78F1FA16E@microsoft.com...

> You're welcome, and thanks.

>

> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:37133F25-4924-4943-B6BA-1D922E566BDC@microsoft.com...

>> Colin:

>> I tested your "Greypaper". There is one minor error. When you used

>> "DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:", it should have been "\DosDevices\I:"

>> and "\DosDevices\J:. I saved a copy of your "Greypaper" with the

>> modification to use for multi-boot systems. Thanks again. Have a great

>> day.

>> --

>> Dennis Pack

>> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64

>> Office Professional Plus 2007

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP

>>> and

>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>>> multi-booting

>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if

>>> I

>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to

>>> resolve

>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>>> notes

>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

>>> Pro

>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for

>>> more

>>> than just dual-booting.

>>>

>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>>> Office,

>>> etc.

>>>

>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>>

>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>>> reposting,

>>> etc.

>>>

>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>>

>>

>

[Guest Lance Le Claire]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

Darn spelling correction!!

 

bcdedit /?

not

credit /? to access Vista boot manager.

--

Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

http://www.zardoc.com

XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

 

"Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

news:%23HtBZ97dIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Hi,

>

> I just want to make one thing quite clear (and as always, please excuse my

> English grammar),

>

> I think that Colin Barnhorst wrote a great gripper about Volume Snapshot

> system file issues with Windows System Restore.

>

> He touches a point that I have never had an issue with because I don't

> like Windows restore and I use Acronis True Image.

>

> Nevertheless, I read the article and it is quite detailed and well

> explained as to why Vista restore points are erased if you boot back into

> XP and then return to Vista.

>

> I just wanted to point out that I only have a difference of opinion with

> Colin on the need of using Vista boot manager VS boot bios options. (and

> BTW, as you can see I made a mistake when I wrote to access Boot manager

> the command was bad.exe (I meant credit /?)

>

> So Colin, again I want thank you for the hard work that you did and tell

> you that your grey paper is tried and tested (just have to fix the slash

> and quote issues :-) and works like a charm. I will add it in my notes as

> a quick fix for this issue.

>

> I really have fun exchanging issues with other users who have experience

> and do (or see) things from another perspective, because my way, is not

> always the best (or right) way.

>

> Thanks,

>

> --

> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

> http://www.zardoc.com

> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:319B5E89-6747-49D3-8030-B1A78F1FA16E@microsoft.com...

>> You're welcome, and thanks.

>>

>> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:37133F25-4924-4943-B6BA-1D922E566BDC@microsoft.com...

>>> Colin:

>>> I tested your "Greypaper". There is one minor error. When you

>>> used "DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:", it should have been

>>> "\DosDevices\I:" and "\DosDevices\J:. I saved a copy of your "Greypaper"

>>> with the modification to use for multi-boot systems. Thanks again. Have

>>> a great day.

>>> --

>>> Dennis Pack

>>> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64

>>> Office Professional Plus 2007

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP

>>>> and

>>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>>>> multi-booting

>>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if

>>>> I

>>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to

>>>> resolve

>>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>>>> notes

>>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

>>>> Pro

>>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for

>>>> more

>>>> than just dual-booting.

>>>>

>>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the

>>>> Word

>>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>>>> Office,

>>>> etc.

>>>>

>>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>>>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>>>

>>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>>>> reposting,

>>>> etc.

>>>>

>>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

Thanks.

 

"Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

news:%23HtBZ97dIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Hi,

>

> I just want to make one thing quite clear (and as always, please excuse my

> English grammar),

>

> I think that Colin Barnhorst wrote a great gripper about Volume Snapshot

> system file issues with Windows System Restore.

>

> He touches a point that I have never had an issue with because I don't

> like Windows restore and I use Acronis True Image.

>

> Nevertheless, I read the article and it is quite detailed and well

> explained as to why Vista restore points are erased if you boot back into

> XP and then return to Vista.

>

> I just wanted to point out that I only have a difference of opinion with

> Colin on the need of using Vista boot manager VS boot bios options. (and

> BTW, as you can see I made a mistake when I wrote to access Boot manager

> the command was bad.exe (I meant credit /?)

>

> So Colin, again I want thank you for the hard work that you did and tell

> you that your grey paper is tried and tested (just have to fix the slash

> and quote issues :-) and works like a charm. I will add it in my notes as

> a quick fix for this issue.

>

> I really have fun exchanging issues with other users who have experience

> and do (or see) things from another perspective, because my way, is not

> always the best (or right) way.

>

> Thanks,

>

> --

> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

> http://www.zardoc.com

> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:319B5E89-6747-49D3-8030-B1A78F1FA16E@microsoft.com...

>> You're welcome, and thanks.

>>

>> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message

>> news:37133F25-4924-4943-B6BA-1D922E566BDC@microsoft.com...

>>> Colin:

>>> I tested your "Greypaper". There is one minor error. When you

>>> used "DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:", it should have been

>>> "\DosDevices\I:" and "\DosDevices\J:. I saved a copy of your "Greypaper"

>>> with the modification to use for multi-boot systems. Thanks again. Have

>>> a great day.

>>> --

>>> Dennis Pack

>>> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64

>>> Office Professional Plus 2007

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP

>>>> and

>>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>>>> multi-booting

>>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if

>>>> I

>>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to

>>>> resolve

>>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>>>> notes

>>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

>>>> Pro

>>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for

>>>> more

>>>> than just dual-booting.

>>>>

>>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the

>>>> Word

>>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>>>> Office,

>>>> etc.

>>>>

>>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>>>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>>>

>>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>>>> reposting,

>>>> etc.

>>>>

>>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

[Guest Lance Le Claire]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

You are welcome.

--

Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

http://www.zardoc.com

XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:0391A1D2-185D-4691-B9C1-AF4F63DC3893@microsoft.com...

> Thanks.

>

> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message

> news:%23HtBZ97dIHA.2688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Hi,

>>

>> I just want to make one thing quite clear (and as always, please excuse

>> my English grammar),

>>

>> I think that Colin Barnhorst wrote a great gripper about Volume Snapshot

>> system file issues with Windows System Restore.

>>

>> He touches a point that I have never had an issue with because I don't

>> like Windows restore and I use Acronis True Image.

>>

>> Nevertheless, I read the article and it is quite detailed and well

>> explained as to why Vista restore points are erased if you boot back into

>> XP and then return to Vista.

>>

>> I just wanted to point out that I only have a difference of opinion with

>> Colin on the need of using Vista boot manager VS boot bios options. (and

>> BTW, as you can see I made a mistake when I wrote to access Boot manager

>> the command was bad.exe (I meant credit /?)

>>

>> So Colin, again I want thank you for the hard work that you did and tell

>> you that your grey paper is tried and tested (just have to fix the slash

>> and quote issues :-) and works like a charm. I will add it in my notes as

>> a quick fix for this issue.

>>

>> I really have fun exchanging issues with other users who have experience

>> and do (or see) things from another perspective, because my way, is not

>> always the best (or right) way.

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> --

>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.zardoc.com

>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:319B5E89-6747-49D3-8030-B1A78F1FA16E@microsoft.com...

>>> You're welcome, and thanks.

>>>

>>> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message

>>> news:37133F25-4924-4943-B6BA-1D922E566BDC@microsoft.com...

>>>> Colin:

>>>> I tested your "Greypaper". There is one minor error. When you

>>>> used "DosDevices\I:" and "DosDevices\J:", it should have been

>>>> "\DosDevices\I:" and "\DosDevices\J:. I saved a copy of your

>>>> "Greypaper" with the modification to use for multi-boot systems. Thanks

>>>> again. Have a great day.

>>>> --

>>>> Dennis Pack

>>>> XP x64 SP2, Vista Enterprise x64

>>>> Office Professional Plus 2007

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

>>>>> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP

>>>>> and

>>>>> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

>>>>> multi-booting

>>>>> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper

>>>>> if I

>>>>> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to

>>>>> resolve

>>>>> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

>>>>> notes

>>>>> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86,

>>>>> XP Pro

>>>>> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for

>>>>> more

>>>>> than just dual-booting.

>>>>>

>>>>> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the

>>>>> Word

>>>>> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

>>>>> Office,

>>>>> etc.

>>>>>

>>>>> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

>>>>> first", its all in the doc already.

>>>>>

>>>>> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

>>>>> reposting,

>>>>> etc.

>>>>>

>>>>> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

[Guest R. C. White]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

Hi, Colin.

 

Great job! At least, I think so. But I haven't really absorbed the whole

"Greypaper" - and this whole thread - yet because I don't really have that

issue. I've used System Restore only a few times, and I seldom boot into

WinXP anymore.

 

But right there in Setup One is one of my pet peeves. :>(

 

<paste>

In other words, I boot into XP Pro x86 to rename its system volume, and then

XP Pro x64 to name its system volume, etc.

Example: for my quad-boot AMD test box I name the system volumes as follows:

"XP Pro x86", "XP Pro x6", "Vista x86", "Vista x64".

</paste>

 

I agree wholeheartedly with your advice to rename those volumes! But those

are the BOOT volumes, not the SYSTEM volumes. Remember, those terms are

counterintuitive, based on legacy issues that go back at least 20 years. As

many authors have pointed out, we BOOT from the SYSTEM partition and keep

the operating SYSTEM files in the BOOT volume.

 

When this comes up in these newsgroups, I usually refer the poster to KB

article 314470:

Definitions for system volume and boot volume

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314470/EN-US/

 

As that article says, "There is only one system volume. However, there is

one boot volume for each operating system in a multiboot system." If you

just change "system volume" to "boot volume" each time it occurs in that

paragraph, I won't quibble any more. ;^}

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:6B58D5E1-58B0-4B4A-92D1-2053C15B76FE@microsoft.com...

> There is still lots of confusion about the incompatibility between XP and

> Vista that leads to the loss of Vista's recovery options when

> multi-booting

> Vista and XP. I have prepared a Greypaper (it would be a whitepaper if I

> just knew what I was doing :)) for those interested or needing to resolve

> the problem on their own computers. The attachment is based on my own

> notes

> in securing my test box from this problem. I multi-boot XP Pro x86, XP

> Pro

> x64, Vista x86, and Vista x64 so the example in the Greypaper is for more

> than just dual-booting.

>

> The attachment is in Word .doc format so any edition of Word or the Word

> Viewer (free download from Office Downloads) will do as well as Open

> Office,

> etc.

>

> Before you net-police start posting replies about "back up everything

> first", its all in the doc already.

>

> Feel free to use the attachment as you want, including modifying,

> reposting,

> etc.

>

> OK, all you flamers, let me have it.

[Guest R. C. White]

Re: Hiding Vista volumes from XP (volsnap.sys issue revisited)

 

Whoops!

> But right there in Setup One is one of my pet peeves. :>(

 

Make that Step One. (It's really embarrassing to goof up while

criticizing.)

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

 

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

news:3A51F099-CDFB-421A-ADED-5800D1FB225D@microsoft.com...

> Hi, Colin.

>

> Great job! At least, I think so. But I haven't really absorbed the whole

> "Greypaper" - and this whole thread - yet because I don't really have that

> issue. I've used System Restore only a few times, and I seldom boot into

> WinXP anymore.

>

> But right there in Setup One is one of my pet peeves. :>(

<SNIP>