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Hey gang,

 

Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting installed

yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat, parts will

take me some getting used to.

 

I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to

defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.

 

I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into " computer",

and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it states it is

defragging " disks " , ie plural.

 

Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my

partitions?

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

Don

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Guest Maratonmannen
Posted

RE: Vista Defrag

 

It´s defraging all your drives/partitions.

To defrag C, type in a command prompt: defrag C:

 

--

Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro (i975X Express)

Core™ 2 Extreme X6800

RAPTOR 2x150 GB RAID 0

4GB DDR2 800MHz

GeForce 8800GTX

Enermax 1000W 75A@+12V

LAN 100/100

XP x64 dualboot Vista x64 SP1 (slipstreamed)

 

 

"Don" wrote:

> Hey gang,

>

> Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting installed

> yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat, parts will

> take me some getting used to.

>

> I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to

> defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.

>

> I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into " computer",

> and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it states it is

> defragging " disks " , ie plural.

>

> Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my

> partitions?

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> Don

>

>

Posted

Re: Vista Defrag

 

Good deal, many thanks for the info !

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

 

"Maratonmannen" <Maratonmannen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7E86877D-6AF2-48B2-BA6C-23F12A688327@microsoft.com...

> It´s defraging all your drives/partitions.

> To defrag C, type in a command prompt: defrag C:

>

> --

> Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro (i975X Express)

> Core™ 2 Extreme X6800

> RAPTOR 2x150 GB RAID 0

> 4GB DDR2 800MHz

> GeForce 8800GTX

> Enermax 1000W 75A@+12V

> LAN 100/100

> XP x64 dualboot Vista x64 SP1 (slipstreamed)

>

>

> "Don" wrote:

>

>> Hey gang,

>>

>> Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting

>> installed

>> yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat, parts

>> will

>> take me some getting used to.

>>

>> I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to

>> defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.

>>

>> I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into "

>> computer",

>> and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it states it

>> is

>> defragging " disks " , ie plural.

>>

>> Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my

>> partitions?

>>

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>>

>> Don

>>

>>

Posted

RE: Vista Defrag

 

Hi"Maratonmannen":

I have several hard drives with a large number of saved recorded tv

programs which are recorded on my G: and then moved to other drives. On my

MCE2005 pc this results in 5 hard drives almost completely full and not

needing any defragmenting. On my Vista PC, I record movies on G: and move

them to my stosrage drives and they don't need to be defragmented ever. I

tried your suggestion on my Vista pc and when the "elevated" command prompt

window came up it said "system32". I closed the window in confusion because

I am running Vista x64 and don't understand why the command prompt came up as

"system32"? Is the command prompt window correct or should it have said

64-bit? I would love to be able to de-frag only the recording drive on a

regular basis because it gets very fragmented from frequent recordings,

deletions and transfers to other drives but hate Vista automatically

defragmenting over 2 TBs of stored content that doesn't need it. Should I go

ahead and use the "system32" command prompt that comes up automatically when

I enter "command prompt" in the Vista search box or is there a different

command prompt available for my x64 O.S.?

 

"Maratonmannen" wrote:

> It´s defraging all your drives/partitions.

> To defrag C, type in a command prompt: defrag C:

>

> --

> Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro (i975X Express)

> Core™ 2 Extreme X6800

> RAPTOR 2x150 GB RAID 0

> 4GB DDR2 800MHz

> GeForce 8800GTX

> Enermax 1000W 75A@+12V

> LAN 100/100

> XP x64 dualboot Vista x64 SP1 (slipstreamed)

>

>

> "Don" wrote:

>

> > Hey gang,

> >

> > Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting installed

> > yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat, parts will

> > take me some getting used to.

> >

> > I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to

> > defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.

> >

> > I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into " computer",

> > and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it states it is

> > defragging " disks " , ie plural.

> >

> > Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my

> > partitions?

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> > Don

> >

> >

Posted

RE: Vista Defrag

 

Hi again "Maratonmannen":

Just for clarification this is what the Vista command prompt window says:

 

"Administrative Command Prompt"

 

"C:\Windows\system32>"

 

xiowan.........in tucson

 

 

 

"Maratonmannen" wrote:

> It´s defraging all your drives/partitions.

> To defrag C, type in a command prompt: defrag C:

>

> --

> Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro (i975X Express)

> Core™ 2 Extreme X6800

> RAPTOR 2x150 GB RAID 0

> 4GB DDR2 800MHz

> GeForce 8800GTX

> Enermax 1000W 75A@+12V

> LAN 100/100

> XP x64 dualboot Vista x64 SP1 (slipstreamed)

>

>

> "Don" wrote:

>

> > Hey gang,

> >

> > Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting installed

> > yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat, parts will

> > take me some getting used to.

> >

> > I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to

> > defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.

> >

> > I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into " computer",

> > and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it states it is

> > defragging " disks " , ie plural.

> >

> > Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my

> > partitions?

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> > Don

> >

> >

Posted

Re: Vista Defrag

 

 

"Maratonmannen" <Maratonmannen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7E86877D-6AF2-48B2-BA6C-23F12A688327@microsoft.com...

> It´s defraging all your drives/partitions.

> To defrag C, type in a command prompt: defrag C:

>

>

 

Does he have to choose the "run as administrator" option first? That's

always how I do it, though I've forgotten why.

Posted

Re: Vista Defrag

 

"DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Maratonmannen" <Maratonmannen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:7E86877D-6AF2-48B2-BA6C-23F12A688327@microsoft.com...

>> It´s defraging all your drives/partitions.

>> To defrag C, type in a command prompt: defrag C:

>>

>>

>

> Does he have to choose the "run as administrator" option first? That's

> always how I do it, though I've forgotten why.

>

 

 

 

Yes, I found out the hard way, first time I tried to do it and I got an

error that had to run as administrator or something like that, I did a

search in help and found how I needed to right click it and select to run as

administrator, once I did that it defragged just my C partition just fine.

 

 

 

--

Don

Guest R. C. White
Posted

Re: Vista Defrag

 

Hi, Don.

 

Open an Administrator:Command Prompt. Any command or application launched

in this window will "run elevated".

 

There are several ways to open this window; here's one way: Click Start |

All Programs | Accessories, right-click Command Prompt, then click Run as

Administrator. You'll need the Administrator's password to get past here.

 

The window will open, by default, in C:\Windows\system32. That's the folder

where cmd.exe resides (along with most of the other operating system files).

Don't worry about the "32" in "system32"; that's a holdover from the

original WinXP (or was it in Win95?). That is still the name of the folder

in Vista x64.

 

While you are here, type Set and press Enter. You should see a list of your

Environment Variables, including "SystemRoot=C:\Windows" and many others.

This Set command goes back several generations of the operating system; that

Prompt command goes back to MS-DOS! Type Help and press Enter to get a list

of dozens of commands that can be used in this window, along with a one-line

description of what each one does. Pick one and type the command followed

by /? to see a mini-help file showing the parameters that can be used with

that command, like Dir /?. Of course, any command that can do a lot of good

can also do a lot of damage if used improperly, so handle with care.

 

Type dir dfrg* to see a list of Defrag executable files. If you type

DfrgNtfs, you will get a message that "Command line operation of Disk

Defragmenter is not supported." But if you type "Defrag C:", it will start

defragging C: immediately, since you've launched the command from the

Administrator CP window.

 

Or, as you said, you can run the built-in defragger from the GUI:

Computer | right-click on Drive C: (for example) | Properties | Tools |

Defragmentation | Defragment Now...; you'll need the password to pass this

point.

 

I've never used Diskeeper.

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

 

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

news:#hUPt2vdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Hey gang,

>

> Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting

> installed yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat,

> parts will take me some getting used to.

>

> I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to

> defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.

>

> I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into "

> computer", and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it

> states it is defragging " disks " , ie plural.

>

> Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my

> partitions?

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> Don

Posted

Re: Vista Defrag

 

Hi R.C.,

 

Thanks for the great info, very helpful, I appreciate it!

 

 

--

Don

 

 

 

 

 

 

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

news:7549E7D1-52AA-42C7-822D-40D06AA35024@microsoft.com...

> Hi, Don.

>

> Open an Administrator:Command Prompt. Any command or application launched

> in this window will "run elevated".

>

> There are several ways to open this window; here's one way: Click Start |

> All Programs | Accessories, right-click Command Prompt, then click Run as

> Administrator. You'll need the Administrator's password to get past here.

>

> The window will open, by default, in C:\Windows\system32. That's the

> folder where cmd.exe resides (along with most of the other operating

> system files). Don't worry about the "32" in "system32"; that's a holdover

> from the original WinXP (or was it in Win95?). That is still the name of

> the folder in Vista x64.

>

> While you are here, type Set and press Enter. You should see a list of

> your Environment Variables, including "SystemRoot=C:\Windows" and many

> others. This Set command goes back several generations of the operating

> system; that Prompt command goes back to MS-DOS! Type Help and press

> Enter to get a list of dozens of commands that can be used in this window,

> along with a one-line description of what each one does. Pick one and

> type the command followed by /? to see a mini-help file showing the

> parameters that can be used with that command, like Dir /?. Of course,

> any command that can do a lot of good can also do a lot of damage if used

> improperly, so handle with care.

>

> Type dir dfrg* to see a list of Defrag executable files. If you type

> DfrgNtfs, you will get a message that "Command line operation of Disk

> Defragmenter is not supported." But if you type "Defrag C:", it will

> start defragging C: immediately, since you've launched the command from

> the Administrator CP window.

>

> Or, as you said, you can run the built-in defragger from the GUI:

> Computer | right-click on Drive C: (for example) | Properties | Tools |

> Defragmentation | Defragment Now...; you'll need the password to pass this

> point.

>

> I've never used Diskeeper.

>

> RC

> --

> R. C. White, CPA

> San Marcos, TX

> rc@grandecom.net

> Microsoft Windows MVP

> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

>

> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:#hUPt2vdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Hey gang,

>>

>> Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting

>> installed yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty

>> neat, parts will take me some getting used to.

>>

>> I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to

>> defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.

>>

>> I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into "

>> computer", and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it

>> states it is defragging " disks " , ie plural.

>>

>> Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my

>> partitions?

>>

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>>

>> Don

>

Posted

Re: Vista Defrag

 

Hello R.C. White:

I also thank you for the useful reply. I'm going disable Vista's

automatic defragmenting and do it thru the command prompt. I hate to have

Vista messing with drives that don't need any attention and from now on will

just de-frag my C: drive and recording drive G: Your tip will save me the

cost of buying a 3rd party program for disk defragmenting and also a lot of

time learning how to use it!

 

xiowan........in tucson

 

"R. C. White" wrote:

> Hi, Don.

>

> Open an Administrator:Command Prompt. Any command or application launched

> in this window will "run elevated".

>

> There are several ways to open this window; here's one way: Click Start |

> All Programs | Accessories, right-click Command Prompt, then click Run as

> Administrator. You'll need the Administrator's password to get past here.

>

> The window will open, by default, in C:\Windows\system32. That's the folder

> where cmd.exe resides (along with most of the other operating system files).

> Don't worry about the "32" in "system32"; that's a holdover from the

> original WinXP (or was it in Win95?). That is still the name of the folder

> in Vista x64.

>

> While you are here, type Set and press Enter. You should see a list of your

> Environment Variables, including "SystemRoot=C:\Windows" and many others.

> This Set command goes back several generations of the operating system; that

> Prompt command goes back to MS-DOS! Type Help and press Enter to get a list

> of dozens of commands that can be used in this window, along with a one-line

> description of what each one does. Pick one and type the command followed

> by /? to see a mini-help file showing the parameters that can be used with

> that command, like Dir /?. Of course, any command that can do a lot of good

> can also do a lot of damage if used improperly, so handle with care.

>

> Type dir dfrg* to see a list of Defrag executable files. If you type

> DfrgNtfs, you will get a message that "Command line operation of Disk

> Defragmenter is not supported." But if you type "Defrag C:", it will start

> defragging C: immediately, since you've launched the command from the

> Administrator CP window.

>

> Or, as you said, you can run the built-in defragger from the GUI:

> Computer | right-click on Drive C: (for example) | Properties | Tools |

> Defragmentation | Defragment Now...; you'll need the password to pass this

> point.

>

> I've never used Diskeeper.

>

> RC

> --

> R. C. White, CPA

> San Marcos, TX

> rc@grandecom.net

> Microsoft Windows MVP

> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

>

> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:#hUPt2vdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Hey gang,

> >

> > Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting

> > installed yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty neat,

> > parts will take me some getting used to.

> >

> > I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it to

> > defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.

> >

> > I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into "

> > computer", and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag, it

> > states it is defragging " disks " , ie plural.

> >

> > Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my

> > partitions?

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> > Don

>

Guest Tony Sperling
Posted

Re: Vista Defrag

 

On the other hand - Defrag wouldn't use up many milliseconds to establish

that it didn't have to do anything! It's certainly not going to go through

the complete procedure to no avail!

 

But I understand you, the terminal window definitely has it's own

fashination!

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

"xiowan" <xiowan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:ABCC698E-D18C-4691-910D-4F984527A890@microsoft.com...

> Hello R.C. White:

> I also thank you for the useful reply. I'm going disable Vista's

> automatic defragmenting and do it thru the command prompt. I hate to have

> Vista messing with drives that don't need any attention and from now on

> will

> just de-frag my C: drive and recording drive G: Your tip will save me the

> cost of buying a 3rd party program for disk defragmenting and also a lot

> of

> time learning how to use it!

>

> xiowan........in tucson

>

> "R. C. White" wrote:

>

>> Hi, Don.

>>

>> Open an Administrator:Command Prompt. Any command or application

>> launched

>> in this window will "run elevated".

>>

>> There are several ways to open this window; here's one way: Click Start

>> |

>> All Programs | Accessories, right-click Command Prompt, then click Run as

>> Administrator. You'll need the Administrator's password to get past

>> here.

>>

>> The window will open, by default, in C:\Windows\system32. That's the

>> folder

>> where cmd.exe resides (along with most of the other operating system

>> files).

>> Don't worry about the "32" in "system32"; that's a holdover from the

>> original WinXP (or was it in Win95?). That is still the name of the

>> folder

>> in Vista x64.

>>

>> While you are here, type Set and press Enter. You should see a list of

>> your

>> Environment Variables, including "SystemRoot=C:\Windows" and many others.

>> This Set command goes back several generations of the operating system;

>> that

>> Prompt command goes back to MS-DOS! Type Help and press Enter to get a

>> list

>> of dozens of commands that can be used in this window, along with a

>> one-line

>> description of what each one does. Pick one and type the command

>> followed

>> by /? to see a mini-help file showing the parameters that can be used

>> with

>> that command, like Dir /?. Of course, any command that can do a lot of

>> good

>> can also do a lot of damage if used improperly, so handle with care.

>>

>> Type dir dfrg* to see a list of Defrag executable files. If you type

>> DfrgNtfs, you will get a message that "Command line operation of Disk

>> Defragmenter is not supported." But if you type "Defrag C:", it will

>> start

>> defragging C: immediately, since you've launched the command from the

>> Administrator CP window.

>>

>> Or, as you said, you can run the built-in defragger from the GUI:

>> Computer | right-click on Drive C: (for example) | Properties | Tools |

>> Defragmentation | Defragment Now...; you'll need the password to pass

>> this

>> point.

>>

>> I've never used Diskeeper.

>>

>> RC

>> --

>> R. C. White, CPA

>> San Marcos, TX

>> rc@grandecom.net

>> Microsoft Windows MVP

>> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

>>

>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:#hUPt2vdIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > Hey gang,

>> >

>> > Have been messing around with Vista 64 bit Ultimate since getting

>> > installed yesterday to dual boot with XP Pro. Parts of it are pretty

>> > neat,

>> > parts will take me some getting used to.

>> >

>> > I use Executive Software Diskeeper, in my XP Pro install. I can use it

>> > to

>> > defrage the drive my Vista install is on as well.

>> >

>> > I am curious about the Vista built in defragger, when I go into "

>> > computer", and right click a hard drive, click on tools, then defrag,

>> > it

>> > states it is defragging " disks " , ie plural.

>> >

>> > Is it defragging just the drive I selected, or is it defragging all my

>> > partitions?

>> >

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> >

>> >

>> > Don

>>


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