Moving from W2k to XP with a Big HD

February 24, 2008

Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern

motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help here, I

summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD size as W2K had

set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to it's full size. I'm

now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this for me? If not, what's a

recommended way to get XP to use the full capacity of the HD?

=============Basics on How to Install W2K================

Rev. Aug. 18, 2007

I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision post.

[start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can W2K

Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS

motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is

"both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I had

some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I wanted to

partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the install:

==============================

76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi

C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free

D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ? legibly)

Unpartitioned space 131069MB

===============================

What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet I

had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS

tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this all

about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take care

of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous system. I

had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an install

would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the contents

of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it

contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over the

years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has

changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.

Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive. That

will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat) the

80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

[End of the Aside]

Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of IDE/SATA

issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make

adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

1. Fire up the PC

2. Place their driver CD in the drive

3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a

prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.

(Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot

from a CD before trying a HD or other device.

4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt

5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy

6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8

files to be copied to the CD

Continuing with the install of W2K

1. Insert the W2K CD

2. Press the boot button when asked

3. Hit F6 soon

4. A prompt for the floppy appears.

5. Put the floppy in and continue

6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.

Select one, then loop around to select the second.

6. Press F8 to continue the install

7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure

you don't fumble the ball like I did.

8. Continue to the end of set up.

Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in BIOS

too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See next

paragraph.*

Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I

haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new install

before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003

<http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003

Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.

<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003

Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

Service Pack 4 -- Download the update

<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

Then

D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security

updates rolled into one convenient package)

Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next

page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K machine

to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in step 2.

Proceed to download.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

Finally,

E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity

<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>

Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the registry.

You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took up

137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm about

to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this procedure

if necessary, but the above is sound.

If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the

drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

Enjoy your new installation ...

==============End===============

--

Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)

Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>

February 24, 2008

Re: Moving from W2k to XP with a Big HD

In order to use the full amount of disk space both your bios and the version

/ sp level of Win you are installing needs to support large disks.

You cannot expand the windows partition, to utilise the full disk size, if

you have installed with a sp level of win that doesnt support large disks,

without resorting to a third party tool, Partition Magic being one such.

Since it would appear you have installed win2k using a version that didnt

support large disks, unless you are doing a clean install of winxp, using a

version that supports large disks, you would need to use such a third party

tool to expand and utilse your free space.

"W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:ughwj.12353$J41.3513@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...

> Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern

> motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help here,

> I summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD size as W2K

> had set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to it's full

> size. I'm now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this for me? If

> not, what's a recommended way to get XP to use the full capacity of the

> HD?

>

> =============Basics on How to Install W2K================

> Rev. Aug. 18, 2007

> I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision

> post.

>

> [start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

>

> Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can W2K

> Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

>

> Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS

> motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is

> "both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I

> had

> some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I wanted

> to

> partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the

> install:

>

> ==============================

> 76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi

> C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free

> D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

>

> 131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ? legibly)

> Unpartitioned space 131069MB

> ===============================

>

> What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet I

> had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS

> tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this

> all

> about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take care

> of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous system.

> I

> had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an

> install

> would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the contents

> of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it

> contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over the

> years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has

> changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

>

> I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.

> Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive. That

> will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat)

> the

> 80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

>

> [End of the Aside]

>

> Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of IDE/SATA

> issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make

> adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

>

> 1. Fire up the PC

> 2. Place their driver CD in the drive

> 3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a

> prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.

> (Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot

> from a CD before trying a HD or other device.

> 4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt

> 5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy

> 6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8

> files to be copied to the CD

>

> Continuing with the install of W2K

>

> 1. Insert the W2K CD

> 2. Press the boot button when asked

> 3. Hit F6 soon

> 4. A prompt for the floppy appears.

> 5. Put the floppy in and continue

> 6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.

> Select one, then loop around to select the second.

> 6. Press F8 to continue the install

> 7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure

> you don't fumble the ball like I did.

> 8. Continue to the end of set up.

>

> Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in

> BIOS

> too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See next

> paragraph.*

>

> Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I

> haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

>

> Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new install

> before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

>

> A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003

> <http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

>

> B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003

> Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

> Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.

> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

>

> C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003

> Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

> Service Pack 4 -- Download the update

> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

>

> Then

>

> D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security

> updates rolled into one convenient package)

> Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next

> page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K

> machine

> to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in step

> 2.

> Proceed to download.

>

> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

>

> Finally,

> E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity

> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>

> Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the

> registry.

>

> You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took up

> 137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm

> about to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this

> procedure if necessary, but the above is sound.

>

> If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the

> drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

>

> Enjoy your new installation ...

> ==============End===============

> --

> Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)

>

> Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>

February 24, 2008

Re: Moving from W2k to XP with a Big HD

DL wrote:

> In order to use the full amount of disk space both your bios and the version

> / sp level of Win you are installing needs to support large disks.

Doesn't XP "automatically" support large HDs? I have a 300G on my XP desktop

system in the house.

> You cannot expand the windows partition, to utilise the full disk size, if

> you have installed with a sp level of win that doesnt support large disks,

I didn't know some version of W2K with special SP supports large HDs.

> without resorting to a third party tool, Partition Magic being one such.

>

> Since it would appear you have installed win2k using a version that didnt

> support large disks, unless you are doing a clean install of winxp, using a

> version that supports large disks, you would need to use such a third party

> tool to expand and utilse your free space.

>

> "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:ughwj.12353$J41.3513@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...

>> Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern

>> motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help here,

>> I summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD size as W2K

>> had set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to it's full

>> size. I'm now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this for me? If

>> not, what's a recommended way to get XP to use the full capacity of the

>> HD?

>>

>> =============Basics on How to Install W2K================

>> Rev. Aug. 18, 2007

>> I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision

>> post.

>>

>> [start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

>>

>> Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can W2K

>> Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

>>

>> Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS

>> motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is

>> "both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I

>> had

>> some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I wanted

>> to

>> partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the

>> install:

>>

>> ==============================

>> 76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi

>> C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free

>> D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

>>

>> 131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ? legibly)

>> Unpartitioned space 131069MB

>> ===============================

>>

>> What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet I

>> had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS

>> tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this

>> all

>> about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take care

>> of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous system.

>> I

>> had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an

>> install

>> would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the contents

>> of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it

>> contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over the

>> years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has

>> changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

>>

>> I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.

>> Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive. That

>> will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat)

>> the

>> 80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

>>

>> [End of the Aside]

>>

>> Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of IDE/SATA

>> issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make

>> adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

>>

>> 1. Fire up the PC

>> 2. Place their driver CD in the drive

>> 3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a

>> prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.

>> (Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot

>> from a CD before trying a HD or other device.

>> 4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt

>> 5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy

>> 6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8

>> files to be copied to the CD

>>

>> Continuing with the install of W2K

>>

>> 1. Insert the W2K CD

>> 2. Press the boot button when asked

>> 3. Hit F6 soon

>> 4. A prompt for the floppy appears.

>> 5. Put the floppy in and continue

>> 6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.

>> Select one, then loop around to select the second.

>> 6. Press F8 to continue the install

>> 7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure

>> you don't fumble the ball like I did.

>> 8. Continue to the end of set up.

>>

>> Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in

>> BIOS

>> too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See next

>> paragraph.*

>>

>> Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I

>> haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

>>

>> Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new install

>> before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

>>

>> A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003

>> <http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

>>

>> B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003

>> Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

>> Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.

>> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

>>

>> C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003

>> Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

>> Service Pack 4 -- Download the update

>> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

>>

>> Then

>>

>> D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security

>> updates rolled into one convenient package)

>> Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next

>> page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K

>> machine

>> to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in step

>> 2.

>> Proceed to download.

>>

>> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

>>

>> Finally,

>> E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity

>> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>

>> Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the

>> registry.

>>

>> You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took up

>> 137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm

>> about to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this

>> procedure if necessary, but the above is sound.

>>

>> If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the

>> drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

>>

>> Enjoy your new installation ...

>> ==============End===============

>> --

>> Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)

>>

>> Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>

>

--

Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)

Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>

February 24, 2008

Re: Moving from W2k to XP with a Big HD

I missed your comments on first read, as they are 'hidden' within my

response

Only the required sp level of winxp supports large disks as does win2k

win2k sp3

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;305098

WinXp sp1

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303013&Product=winxp

If you are upgrading a win2k system the free space can only be utilised by

either expanding the partition with a third party tool or creating a

partition in the free space

"W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:pnkwj.10398$0o7.4301@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...

>

> DL wrote:

>> In order to use the full amount of disk space both your bios and the

>> version / sp level of Win you are installing needs to support large

>> disks.

> Doesn't XP "automatically" support large HDs? I have a 300G on my XP

> desktop system in the house.

>> You cannot expand the windows partition, to utilise the full disk size,

>> if you have installed with a sp level of win that doesnt support large

>> disks,

> I didn't know some version of W2K with special SP supports large HDs.

>> without resorting to a third party tool, Partition Magic being one such.

>>

>> Since it would appear you have installed win2k using a version that didnt

>> support large disks, unless you are doing a clean install of winxp, using

>> a version that supports large disks, you would need to use such a third

>> party tool to expand and utilse your free space.

>>

>> "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote in message

>> news:ughwj.12353$J41.3513@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...

>>> Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern

>>> motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help

>>> here, I summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD

>>> size as W2K had set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to

>>> it's full size. I'm now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this

>>> for me? If not, what's a recommended way to get XP to use the full

>>> capacity of the HD?

>>>

>>> =============Basics on How to Install W2K================

>>> Rev. Aug. 18, 2007

>>> I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision

>>> post.

>>>

>>> [start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

>>>

>>> Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can

>>> W2K

>>> Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

>>>

>>> Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS

>>> motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is

>>> "both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I

>>> had

>>> some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I

>>> wanted to

>>> partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the

>>> install:

>>>

>>> ==============================

>>> 76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi

>>> C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free

>>> D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

>>>

>>> 131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ?

>>> legibly)

>>> Unpartitioned space 131069MB

>>> ===============================

>>>

>>> What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet

>>> I

>>> had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS

>>> tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this

>>> all

>>> about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take

>>> care

>>> of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous

>>> system. I

>>> had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an

>>> install

>>> would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the

>>> contents

>>> of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it

>>> contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over

>>> the

>>> years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has

>>> changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

>>>

>>> I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.

>>> Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive.

>>> That

>>> will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat)

>>> the

>>> 80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

>>>

>>> [End of the Aside]

>>>

>>> Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of

>>> IDE/SATA

>>> issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make

>>> adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

>>>

>>> 1. Fire up the PC

>>> 2. Place their driver CD in the drive

>>> 3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a

>>> prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.

>>> (Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot

>>> from a CD before trying a HD or other device.

>>> 4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt

>>> 5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy

>>> 6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8

>>> files to be copied to the CD

>>>

>>> Continuing with the install of W2K

>>>

>>> 1. Insert the W2K CD

>>> 2. Press the boot button when asked

>>> 3. Hit F6 soon

>>> 4. A prompt for the floppy appears.

>>> 5. Put the floppy in and continue

>>> 6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.

>>> Select one, then loop around to select the second.

>>> 6. Press F8 to continue the install

>>> 7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure

>>> you don't fumble the ball like I did.

>>> 8. Continue to the end of set up.

>>>

>>> Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in

>>> BIOS

>>> too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See

>>> next

>>> paragraph.*

>>>

>>> Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I

>>> haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

>>>

>>> Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new

>>> install

>>> before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

>>>

>>> A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003

>>> <http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

>>>

>>> B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003

>>> Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

>>> Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.

>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

>>>

>>> C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003

>>> Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

>>> Service Pack 4 -- Download the update

>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

>>>

>>> Then

>>>

>>> D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security

>>> updates rolled into one convenient package)

>>> Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next

>>> page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K

>>> machine

>>> to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in

>>> step 2.

>>> Proceed to download.

>>>

>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

>>>

>>> Finally,

>>> E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity

>>> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>

>>> Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the

>>> registry.

>>>

>>> You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took

>>> up 137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm

>>> about to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this

>>> procedure if necessary, but the above is sound.

>>>

>>> If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the

>>> drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

>>>

>>> Enjoy your new installation ...

>>> ==============End===============

>>> --

>>> Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)

>>>

>>> Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>

>>

>

> --

> Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)

>

> Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>

February 25, 2008

Re: Moving from W2k to XP with a Big HD

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:51:38 GMT, "W. Watson"

<wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote:

>Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern

>motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help here, I

>summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD size as W2K had

>set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to it's full size. I'm

>now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this for me? If not, what's a

>recommended way to get XP to use the full capacity of the HD?

>

>=============Basics on How to Install W2K================

>Rev. Aug. 18, 2007

>I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision post.

>

>[start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

>

>Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can W2K

>Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

>

>Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS

>motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is

>"both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I had

>some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I wanted to

>partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the install:

>

>==============================

>76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi

>C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free

>D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

>

>131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ? legibly)

>Unpartitioned space 131069MB

>===============================

On the above screen, Windows 2000 setup tells you that it detects two

physical disk drives: the 76294 MB one is a 80 GB disk with two

partitions, and the 131070 MB one is a disk of 137 GB or larger

capacity.

>

>What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet I

>had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS

>tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this all

>about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take care

>of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous system. I

>had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an install

>would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the contents

>of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it

>contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over the

>years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has

>changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

>

>I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.

>Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive. That

>will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat) the

>80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

>

>[End of the Aside]

>

>Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of IDE/SATA

>issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make

>adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

>

>1. Fire up the PC

>2. Place their driver CD in the drive

>3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a

> prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.

> (Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot

> from a CD before trying a HD or other device.

>4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt

>5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy

>6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8

> files to be copied to the CD

>

>Continuing with the install of W2K

>

>1. Insert the W2K CD

>2. Press the boot button when asked

>3. Hit F6 soon

>4. A prompt for the floppy appears.

>5. Put the floppy in and continue

>6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.

> Select one, then loop around to select the second.

Exactly what drivers are you loading? The only useful driver I can

think of is a disk interface driver that allows Windows 2000 setup to

see past 137GB on large disk drives.

>6. Press F8 to continue the install

>7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure

> you don't fumble the ball like I did.

>8. Continue to the end of set up.

>

>Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in BIOS

>too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See next

>paragraph.*

>

>Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I

>haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

>

>Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new install

>before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

>

>A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003

><http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

>

>B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003

>Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

> Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.

><http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

>

>C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003

>Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

> Service Pack 4 -- Download the update

><http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

>

>Then

>

>D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security

>updates rolled into one convenient package)

>Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next

>page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K machine

>to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in step 2.

>Proceed to download.

>

><http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

>

>Finally,

>E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity

><http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>

>Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the registry.

>

>You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took up

>137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm about

>to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this procedure

>if necessary, but the above is sound.

>

>If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the

>drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

>

>Enjoy your new installation ...

>==============End===============

February 25, 2008

Re: Moving from W2k to XP with a Big HD

The "Basics on How to ..." was constructed pretty much exactly the steps I

took to get the job done from others who posted to my original response.

Many of the posts were just do this and that, which led to some minor

difficulty, so I just summarized what it all amounted to. My intent was to

show pretty accurately what I did for posters on this new thread in the

event that it might contain some useful info to the question I posed in this

thread.

So my question is not about the summary. but to answer your question shortly

after "6." about what driver, I really do not recall. I do recall the

install process at that point looped on some fairly simple step. It was not

clear how to get out of the loop, but my summary states the necessary

instructions to get out of it. I wish I had provided a little more detail,

but I think the "loop" instructions from the install become pretty obvious

once one actually carries out the steps.

It looks like the answer is use Partition Wizard before doing the XP upgrade

install. Now to find my copy of PW and install it on the W2K machine.

Andy wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:51:38 GMT, "W. Watson"

> <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote:

>

>> Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern

>> motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help here, I

>> summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD size as W2K had

>> set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to it's full size. I'm

>> now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this for me? If not, what's a

>> recommended way to get XP to use the full capacity of the HD?

>>

>> =============Basics on How to Install W2K================

>> Rev. Aug. 18, 2007

>> I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision post.

>>

>> [start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

>>

>> Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can W2K

>> Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

>>

>> Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS

>> motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is

>> "both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I had

>> some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I wanted to

>> partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the install:

>>

>> ==============================

>> 76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi

>> C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free

>> D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

>>

>> 131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ? legibly)

>> Unpartitioned space 131069MB

>> ===============================

>

> On the above screen, Windows 2000 setup tells you that it detects two

> physical disk drives: the 76294 MB one is a 80 GB disk with two

> partitions, and the 131070 MB one is a disk of 137 GB or larger

> capacity.

>

>> What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet I

>> had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS

>> tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this all

>> about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take care

>> of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous system. I

>> had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an install

>> would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the contents

>> of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it

>> contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over the

>> years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has

>> changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

>>

>> I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.

>> Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive. That

>> will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat) the

>> 80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

>>

>> [End of the Aside]

>>

>> Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of IDE/SATA

>> issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make

>> adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

>>

>> 1. Fire up the PC

>> 2. Place their driver CD in the drive

>> 3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a

>> prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.

>> (Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot

>> from a CD before trying a HD or other device.

>> 4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt

>> 5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy

>> 6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8

>> files to be copied to the CD

>>

>> Continuing with the install of W2K

>>

>> 1. Insert the W2K CD

>> 2. Press the boot button when asked

>> 3. Hit F6 soon

>> 4. A prompt for the floppy appears.

>> 5. Put the floppy in and continue

>> 6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.

>> Select one, then loop around to select the second.

>

> Exactly what drivers are you loading? The only useful driver I can

> think of is a disk interface driver that allows Windows 2000 setup to

> see past 137GB on large disk drives.

>

>> 6. Press F8 to continue the install

>> 7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure

>> you don't fumble the ball like I did.

>> 8. Continue to the end of set up.

>>

>> Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in BIOS

>> too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See next

>> paragraph.*

>>

>> Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I

>> haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

>>

>> Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new install

>> before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

>>

>> A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003

>> <http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

>>

>> B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003

>> Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

>> Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.

>> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

>>

>> C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003

>> Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

>> Service Pack 4 -- Download the update

>> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

>>

>> Then

>>

>> D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security

>> updates rolled into one convenient package)

>> Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next

>> page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K machine

>> to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in step 2.

>> Proceed to download.

>>

>> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

>>

>> Finally,

>> E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity

>> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>

>> Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the registry.

>>

>> You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took up

>> 137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm about

>> to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this procedure

>> if necessary, but the above is sound.

>>

>> If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the

>> drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

>>

>> Enjoy your new installation ...

>> ==============End===============

--

Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)

Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>

February 25, 2008

Re: Moving from W2k to XP with a Big HD

As an aside, unless you have a specific reason for keeping the sata drive as

Fat32 you ought to convert to NTFS, its more secure, more efficient & you

wont have large file copy problems

"W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:WdBwj.14029$R84.8136@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...

> The "Basics on How to ..." was constructed pretty much exactly the steps I

> took to get the job done from others who posted to my original response.

> Many of the posts were just do this and that, which led to some minor

> difficulty, so I just summarized what it all amounted to. My intent was to

> show pretty accurately what I did for posters on this new thread in the

> event that it might contain some useful info to the question I posed in

> this thread.

>

> So my question is not about the summary. but to answer your question

> shortly after "6." about what driver, I really do not recall. I do recall

> the install process at that point looped on some fairly simple step. It

> was not clear how to get out of the loop, but my summary states the

> necessary instructions to get out of it. I wish I had provided a little

> more detail, but I think the "loop" instructions from the install become

> pretty obvious once one actually carries out the steps.

>

> It looks like the answer is use Partition Wizard before doing the XP

> upgrade install. Now to find my copy of PW and install it on the W2K

> machine.

>

> Andy wrote:

>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:51:38 GMT, "W. Watson"

>> <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote:

>>

>>> Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern

>>> motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help

>>> here, I summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD

>>> size as W2K had set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to

>>> it's full size. I'm now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this

>>> for me? If not, what's a recommended way to get XP to use the full

>>> capacity of the HD?

>>>

>>> =============Basics on How to Install W2K================

>>> Rev. Aug. 18, 2007

>>> I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision

>>> post.

>>>

>>> [start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

>>>

>>> Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can

>>> W2K

>>> Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

>>>

>>> Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS

>>> motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is

>>> "both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I

>>> had

>>> some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I

>>> wanted to

>>> partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the

>>> install:

>>>

>>> ==============================

>>> 76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi

>>> C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free

>>> D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

>>>

>>> 131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ?

>>> legibly)

>>> Unpartitioned space 131069MB

>>> ===============================

>>

>> On the above screen, Windows 2000 setup tells you that it detects two

>> physical disk drives: the 76294 MB one is a 80 GB disk with two

>> partitions, and the 131070 MB one is a disk of 137 GB or larger

>> capacity.

>>

>>> What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet

>>> I

>>> had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS

>>> tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this

>>> all

>>> about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take

>>> care

>>> of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous

>>> system. I

>>> had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an

>>> install

>>> would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the

>>> contents

>>> of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it

>>> contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over

>>> the

>>> years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has

>>> changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

>>>

>>> I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.

>>> Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive.

>>> That

>>> will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat)

>>> the

>>> 80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

>>>

>>> [End of the Aside]

>>>

>>> Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of

>>> IDE/SATA

>>> issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make

>>> adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

>>>

>>> 1. Fire up the PC

>>> 2. Place their driver CD in the drive

>>> 3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a

>>> prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.

>>> (Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot

>>> from a CD before trying a HD or other device.

>>> 4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt

>>> 5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy

>>> 6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8

>>> files to be copied to the CD

>>>

>>> Continuing with the install of W2K

>>>

>>> 1. Insert the W2K CD

>>> 2. Press the boot button when asked

>>> 3. Hit F6 soon

>>> 4. A prompt for the floppy appears.

>>> 5. Put the floppy in and continue

>>> 6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.

>>> Select one, then loop around to select the second.

>>

>> Exactly what drivers are you loading? The only useful driver I can

>> think of is a disk interface driver that allows Windows 2000 setup to

>> see past 137GB on large disk drives.

>>

>>> 6. Press F8 to continue the install

>>> 7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure

>>> you don't fumble the ball like I did.

>>> 8. Continue to the end of set up.

>>>

>>> Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in

>>> BIOS

>>> too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See

>>> next

>>> paragraph.*

>>>

>>> Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I

>>> haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

>>>

>>> Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new

>>> install

>>> before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

>>>

>>> A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003

>>> <http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

>>>

>>> B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003

>>> Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

>>> Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.

>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

>>>

>>> C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003

>>> Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

>>> Service Pack 4 -- Download the update

>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

>>>

>>> Then

>>>

>>> D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security

>>> updates rolled into one convenient package)

>>> Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next

>>> page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K

>>> machine

>>> to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in

>>> step 2.

>>> Proceed to download.

>>>

>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

>>>

>>> Finally,

>>> E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity

>>> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>

>>> Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the

>>> registry.

>>>

>>> You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took

>>> up 137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm

>>> about to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this

>>> procedure if necessary, but the above is sound.

>>>

>>> If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the

>>> drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

>>>

>>> Enjoy your new installation ...

>>> ==============End===============

>

> --

> Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)

>

> Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>

February 29, 2008

Re: Moving from W2k to XP with a Big HD

It is NTFS, which raises another point. I used PM 8.0 to increase the size.

It took about 1 second, and showed the new enlarged partition as NTFS. Why

no grind it out period to format the rest of the partition as NTFS?

DL wrote:

> As an aside, unless you have a specific reason for keeping the sata drive as

> Fat32 you ought to convert to NTFS, its more secure, more efficient & you

> wont have large file copy problems

>

> "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:WdBwj.14029$R84.8136@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...

>> The "Basics on How to ..." was constructed pretty much exactly the steps I

>> took to get the job done from others who posted to my original response.

>> Many of the posts were just do this and that, which led to some minor

>> difficulty, so I just summarized what it all amounted to. My intent was to

>> show pretty accurately what I did for posters on this new thread in the

>> event that it might contain some useful info to the question I posed in

>> this thread.

>>

>> So my question is not about the summary. but to answer your question

>> shortly after "6." about what driver, I really do not recall. I do recall

>> the install process at that point looped on some fairly simple step. It

>> was not clear how to get out of the loop, but my summary states the

>> necessary instructions to get out of it. I wish I had provided a little

>> more detail, but I think the "loop" instructions from the install become

>> pretty obvious once one actually carries out the steps.

>>

>> It looks like the answer is use Partition Wizard before doing the XP

>> upgrade install. Now to find my copy of PW and install it on the W2K

>> machine.

>>

>> Andy wrote:

>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:51:38 GMT, "W. Watson"

>>> <wolf_tracks@invalid.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Back in August I had some concerns about installing W2K on a modern

>>>> motherboard and a large SATA hardrive (HD). After getting some help

>>>> here, I summarized the process as below. However, I just left the HD

>>>> size as W2K had set it, and did not use any tool to increase the size to

>>>> it's full size. I'm now going to move the OS up to XP. Will it do this

>>>> for me? If not, what's a recommended way to get XP to use the full

>>>> capacity of the HD?

>>>>

>>>> =============Basics on How to Install W2K================

>>>> Rev. Aug. 18, 2007

>>>> I've learned a bit more about this, and it's reflected in this revision

>>>> post.

>>>>

>>>> [start of an Aside on How This Got Started]

>>>>

>>>> Learned from various sources including the thread I started here, "Can

>>>> W2K

>>>> Be Installed on SATA Drives?"

>>>>

>>>> Let me start with an explanation of "the Hard Way". I have a P5NSLI ASUS

>>>> motherboard that supports both IDE and SATA controllers. The key word is

>>>> "both". I wanted to install W2K on the STATA HD, a 320G WS SATA drive. I

>>>> had

>>>> some fun trying to get to a point where the OS install asked how I

>>>> wanted to

>>>> partition the drive. I was stumped by this window that came up in the

>>>> install:

>>>>

>>>> ==============================

>>>> 76294 MB Dis 0k on bus 0 on atapi

>>>> C:NIFS(Drv1_main) 76003MB<6360MB Free

>>>> D:FAT32(Drv1_extra) 290MB<237MB Free

>>>>

>>>> 131070MB Disk 0 at at 0? on? bus 0 on atapi (I didn't copy the ?

>>>> legibly)

>>>> Unpartitioned space 131069MB

>>>> ===============================

>>> On the above screen, Windows 2000 setup tells you that it detects two

>>> physical disk drives: the 76294 MB one is a 80 GB disk with two

>>> partitions, and the 131070 MB one is a disk of 137 GB or larger

>>> capacity.

>>>

>>>> What puzzled me is that the disk was showing about 76G of space, but yet

>>>> I

>>>> had 320G. In my sometimes dizzying attempt to get this far, I asked ASUS

>>>> tech, the techs at the store I bought the MB at, and others what's this

>>>> all

>>>> about. Just continue on they all said. When you apply SP4, it'll take

>>>> care

>>>> of the discrepancy. Wrong! That was my IDE 80G HD from my previous

>>>> system. I

>>>> had mounted it safely, I thought, on the IDE controller thinking an

>>>> install

>>>> would choose the SATA master. Not so. Let me say, charitably, the

>>>> contents

>>>> of the 80G HD are no longer with me. (80/76 vs 320--Get it?) Instead it

>>>> contains only W2K. I probably won't miss the data too much, since over

>>>> the

>>>> years I've moved the important stuff to my PC in the den. The world has

>>>> changed in the four years since I last completely built a PC, etc. :-)

>>>>

>>>> I had a long discussion with the ASUS tech on how to get this right.

>>>> Basically, and what seems the simplest way, is to pull the 80G drive.

>>>> That

>>>> will force the install to to the SATA drive. Then I'll clean (reformat)

>>>> the

>>>> 80G HD later (after hooking it up again).

>>>>

>>>> [End of the Aside]

>>>>

>>>> Here's the step by step procedure. Make sure you've taken care of

>>>> IDE/SATA

>>>> issues as above. Make sure you are booting from CD as first choice. Make

>>>> adjustment as required. Most of this should be good for any MB.

>>>>

>>>> 1. Fire up the PC

>>>> 2. Place their driver CD in the drive

>>>> 3. Wait for the initial ASUS screen to appear, and finally a

>>>> prompt to boot from the CD. Press a key to start the boot.

>>>> (Of course, you need to set BIOS to know to start the boot

>>>> from a CD before trying a HD or other device.

>>>> 4. Wait for a prompt to choose 32-bit, 64-bit or DOS prompt

>>>> 5. I selected 32-bit. Wait for a prompt for a floppy

>>>> 6. Place a 3.5" (fresh) floppy disk in drive-A. Wait for 8

>>>> files to be copied to the CD

>>>>

>>>> Continuing with the install of W2K

>>>>

>>>> 1. Insert the W2K CD

>>>> 2. Press the boot button when asked

>>>> 3. Hit F6 soon

>>>> 4. A prompt for the floppy appears.

>>>> 5. Put the floppy in and continue

>>>> 6. Select the "required" sources. In my case there were two.

>>>> Select one, then loop around to select the second.

>>> Exactly what drivers are you loading? The only useful driver I can

>>> think of is a disk interface driver that allows Windows 2000 setup to

>>> see past 137GB on large disk drives.

>>>

>>>> 6. Press F8 to continue the install

>>>> 7. Continue on until you get to the partitioning. Make sure

>>>> you don't fumble the ball like I did.

>>>> 8. Continue to the end of set up.

>>>>

>>>> Change boot priority in BIOS to first boot from HD (see HD selection in

>>>> BIOS

>>>> too) before you examine that it works. *You're not finished yet. See

>>>> next

>>>> paragraph.*

>>>>

>>>> Here's what to do after you get W2K installed (From Patrick above). I

>>>> haven't tried this, but it looks sound.

>>>>

>>>> Be sure to apply SP4 (A) and these two below (B and C) to your new

>>>> install

>>>> before connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)

>>>>

>>>> A. SP4 dated 6/26/2003

>>>> <http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE>

>>>>

>>>> B: Buffer Overrun in Messenger Service ... -- Issued 10/15/2003

>>>> Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

>>>> Service Pack 4 -- Download the patch.

>>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx>

>>>>

>>>> C: Buffer Overrun in the Workstation ... Issued 11/11/2003

>>>> Use Microsoft Windows 2000, Service Pack 2, Service Pack 3,

>>>> Service Pack 4 -- Download the update

>>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx>

>>>>

>>>> Then

>>>>

>>>> D: Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (Critical security

>>>> updates rolled into one convenient package)

>>>> Validate by pressing Continue button (Validation Required), then on next

>>>> page run the validation tool (in step 1, press Continue) on the W2K

>>>> machine

>>>> to get a validation code. Press validate after entering the code, in

>>>> step 2.

>>>> Proceed to download.

>>>>

>>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?amp;displaylang=en&familyid=B54730CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en>

>>>>

>>>> Finally,

>>>> E: For systems with a HD with more than 137G capacity

>>>> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305098>

>>>> Also see <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322755> on backing up the

>>>> registry.

>>>>

>>>> You may need to add space to the size of the partition if it only took

>>>> up 137G of a larger HD. Partition Magic is probably the ticket here. I'm

>>>> about to look into it as I continue past E. I may revise the end of this

>>>> procedure if necessary, but the above is sound.

>>>>

>>>> If you are installing on a new PC and motherboard (MB), install all the

>>>> drivers from the MB mfger's CD before going to far.

>>>>

>>>> Enjoy your new installation ...

>>>> ==============End===============

>> --

>> Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)

>>

>> Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>

>

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Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)

Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net>

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