Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 I'm trying to create a print file from a word document that I can send to a printer from the command line. I went to <Start> <Settings> <Printers>, opened the properties for the printer involved and set the printer port to "Print to a File". I then went through the print dialogue from Winword, gave it a filename and apparently created a print file. Unfortunately, whenever I do this I get a zero byte file. Am I missing something. (The reason I'm trying to do this is that I have a long-standing problem with inkjet printers in that, because my usage is relatively infrequent, when I do come to need the inkjet it's invariably got a dried-up nozzle that I have to spend time, paper and ink cleaning. I felt that I could avoid this by creating a short, simple, multicoloured text string in word and sending it to the printer perhaps every day or two to exercise it without wasting too much ink. However, I'd like to do this automatically and the only way I can think of is by sending the document via a command line in a startup .bat file. And for that, I assume I'd need the document in print file form).
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? "Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message news:47c3074c$0$10317$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... > I'm trying to create a print file from a word document that I can send to > a printer from the command line. > > I went to <Start> <Settings> <Printers>, opened the properties for the > printer involved and set the printer port to "Print to a File". I then > went through the print dialogue from Winword, gave it a filename and > apparently created a print file. > > Unfortunately, whenever I do this I get a zero byte file. Am I missing > something. > > > (The reason I'm trying to do this is that I have a long-standing problem > with inkjet printers in that, because my usage is relatively infrequent, > when I do come to need the inkjet it's invariably got a dried-up nozzle > that I have to spend time, paper and ink cleaning. I felt that I could > avoid this by creating a short, simple, multicoloured text string in word > and sending it to the printer perhaps every day or two to exercise it > without wasting too much ink. However, I'd like to do this automatically > and the only way I can think of is by sending the document via a command > line in a startup .bat file. And for that, I assume I'd need the document > in print file form). Instead of modifying the printer setup, try doing it the easy way: - Open your document - Click File / Print - Tick the box "Print to File" - Specify a destination when prompted.
Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? Pegasus (MVP) wrote: > "Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message > news:47c3074c$0$10317$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... >> I'm trying to create a print file from a word document that I can send to >> a printer from the command line. > Instead of modifying the printer setup, try doing it the easy way: > - Open your document > - Click File / Print > - Tick the box "Print to File" > - Specify a destination when prompted. <Blush> You know I looked everywhere for that box in the print dialogue before changing the printer setup and couldn't for the life of me see it. Thanks In any event, I still get a zero-byte file. However, I tried selecting my other (Laser) printer (and printing to a file) and it worked OK then. So I have to assume it's a printer driver problem on the inkjet.
Guest Mark Blain Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? Sid Elbow <here@there.com> wrote in news:47c3074c$0$10317$c3e8da3 @news.astraweb.com: > I'm trying to create a print file from a word document that I can send > to a printer from the command line. > > I went to <Start> <Settings> <Printers>, opened the properties for the > printer involved and set the printer port to "Print to a File". I then > went through the print dialogue from Winword, gave it a filename and > apparently created a print file. > > Unfortunately, whenever I do this I get a zero byte file. Am I missing > something. > > > (The reason I'm trying to do this is that I have a long-standing problem > with inkjet printers in that, because my usage is relatively infrequent, > when I do come to need the inkjet it's invariably got a dried-up nozzle > that I have to spend time, paper and ink cleaning. I felt that I could > avoid this by creating a short, simple, multicoloured text string in > word and sending it to the printer perhaps every day or two to exercise > it without wasting too much ink. However, I'd like to do this > automatically and the only way I can think of is by sending the document > via a command line in a startup .bat file. And for that, I assume I'd > need the document in print file form). If you can create the document in Wordpad, you can print it with a command-line like this (no .PRN file needed): "c:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE"/p yourfilename
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? "Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message news:0303d6d1$0$25869$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... > Pegasus (MVP) wrote: >> "Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message >> news:47c3074c$0$10317$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... >>> I'm trying to create a print file from a word document that I can send >>> to a printer from the command line. > >> Instead of modifying the printer setup, try doing it the easy way: >> - Open your document >> - Click File / Print >> - Tick the box "Print to File" >> - Specify a destination when prompted. > > <Blush> You know I looked everywhere for that box in the print dialogue > before changing the printer setup and couldn't for the life of me see it. > Thanks > > In any event, I still get a zero-byte file. However, I tried selecting my > other (Laser) printer (and printing to a file) and it worked OK then. So I > have to assume it's a printer driver problem on the inkjet. Thanks for the feedback - glad you resolved it.
Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? Mark Blain wrote: > If you can create the document in Wordpad, you can print it with a > command-line like this (no .PRN file needed): > "c:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE"/p yourfilename I'd looked for a command-line execution with winword and couldn't find one. Didn't think of Wordpad. The only problem I see is that this form of command line would presumably print to the default printer ... which the printer in question is not (and given that I use it only occasionally, I don't want to make it the default).
Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? Pegasus (MVP) wrote: > "Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message >> In any event, I still get a zero-byte file. However, I tried selecting my >> other (Laser) printer (and printing to a file) and it worked OK then. So I >> have to assume it's a printer driver problem on the inkjet. > > Thanks for the feedback - glad you resolved it. Well, I wouldn't call it "resolved" but it would seem not to be a Windows problem. In fact, when I print to a file, the HP toolbox opens which likely indicates that the driver is trying to get status information from the printer - an old HP 1220C - although I don't know why it should. If that is so, it won't be able to because one of the self-confessed bugs in the driver software, (of all releases) for this product is that the status interrogation doesn't work if you connect via parallel port. Which means that many of the HP toolbox functions (such as ink level status etc) just plain don't work. Apparently printing to a file doesn't either. HP's workaround, throughout the life of the printer, was to tell you to connect via USB instead (!).
Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? Sid Elbow wrote: > Pegasus (MVP) wrote: >> "Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message > >>> In any event, I still get a zero-byte file. However, I tried >>> selecting my other (Laser) printer (and printing to a file) and it >>> worked OK then. So I have to assume it's a printer driver problem on >>> the inkjet. >> >> Thanks for the feedback - glad you resolved it. > > Well, I wouldn't call it "resolved" but it would seem not to be a > Windows problem. OK, I found a way around the problem ... I had a driver for this printer installed on another machine and, even though the printer wasn't connected, it would correctly write the printfile. I then took the printfile back to the first machine, sent it to LPT1: from the command line and it printed just fine. My question now is how to do this from a startup batch file. I don't want it going off at every reboot. Once a day would be OK if I have to but I think every two or three days or so would be fine. Can I do that with basic batch file commands or do I need an added utility to do the timing? (There's nothing particularly critical about the timing so "trick" programming would be OK).
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? "Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message news:47c44adb$0$24411$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... > Sid Elbow wrote: >> Pegasus (MVP) wrote: >>> "Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message >> >>>> In any event, I still get a zero-byte file. However, I tried selecting >>>> my other (Laser) printer (and printing to a file) and it worked OK >>>> then. So I have to assume it's a printer driver problem on the inkjet. >>> >>> Thanks for the feedback - glad you resolved it. >> >> Well, I wouldn't call it "resolved" but it would seem not to be a Windows >> problem. > > OK, I found a way around the problem ... I had a driver for this printer > installed on another machine and, even though the printer wasn't > connected, it would correctly write the printfile. I then took the > printfile back to the first machine, sent it to LPT1: from the command > line and it printed just fine. > > My question now is how to do this from a startup batch file. I don't want > it going off at every reboot. Once a day would be OK if I have to but I > think every two or three days or so would be fine. Can I do that with > basic batch file commands or do I need an added utility to do the timing? > (There's nothing particularly critical about the timing so "trick" > programming would be OK). If you invoked this batch file at boot time then it would fire only once each day: @echo off set Target=c:\TrackerFolder if not exist "%Target%" md "%Target%" if not exist "%Target%\LastPrint.txt" goto Action for /F "tokens=1-2" %%a in ('dir "%Target%\LastPrint.txt" ^ ^| find /i "LastPrint.txt"') do set FDate=%%a %%b if "%FDate%"=="%date%" goto :eof :Action echo. > "%Target%\LastPrint.txt" rem Your command goes here
Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? Pegasus (MVP) wrote: > If you invoked this batch file at boot time then it would fire > only once each day: > @echo off > set Target=c:\TrackerFolder > if not exist "%Target%" md "%Target%" > if not exist "%Target%\LastPrint.txt" goto Action > > for /F "tokens=1-2" %%a in ('dir "%Target%\LastPrint.txt" ^ > ^| find /i "LastPrint.txt"') do set FDate=%%a %%b > if "%FDate%"=="%date%" goto :eof > > :Action > echo. > "%Target%\LastPrint.txt" > rem Your command goes here Thanks, Pegasus, I'll try that. I've also been reading about AT.EXE and SCHTASKS.EXE which might help. Appreciate the help. This is going to solve all my inkjet printer problems (I hope).
Guest V Green Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? "Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message news:47c44adb$0$24411$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... > Sid Elbow wrote: > > Pegasus (MVP) wrote: > >> "Sid Elbow" <here@there.com> wrote in message > > > >>> In any event, I still get a zero-byte file. However, I tried > >>> selecting my other (Laser) printer (and printing to a file) and it > >>> worked OK then. So I have to assume it's a printer driver problem on > >>> the inkjet. > >> > >> Thanks for the feedback - glad you resolved it. > > > > Well, I wouldn't call it "resolved" but it would seem not to be a > > Windows problem. > > OK, I found a way around the problem ... I had a driver for this printer > installed on another machine and, even though the printer wasn't > connected, it would correctly write the printfile. I then took the > printfile back to the first machine, sent it to LPT1: from the command > line and it printed just fine. > > My question now is how to do this from a startup batch file. I don't > want it going off at every reboot. Once a day would be OK if I have to > but I think every two or three days or so would be fine. Can I do that > with basic batch file commands or do I need an added utility to do the > timing? (There's nothing particularly critical about the timing so > "trick" programming would be OK). Use the Task Scheduler to set it to run when you want. Check the command-line <at> command in the helpfile: At Schedules commands and programs to run on a computer at a specified time and date. You can use at only when the Schedule service is running. Used without parameters, at lists scheduled commands.
Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? V Green wrote: > Use the Task Scheduler to set it to run when you want. > > Check the command-line <at> command in the helpfile: I first set up Pegasus's batch file and got that running OK. Then I started playing around with schtasks.exe (XP replacement for at.exe). I'll probably end up using the latter since once a week (rather than once a day) may be enough. (I'd rather try something like every three days but that seems a bit too complicated).
Guest Bob I Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? Sid Elbow wrote: > V Green wrote: > >> Use the Task Scheduler to set it to run when you want. >> >> Check the command-line <at> command in the helpfile: > > > I first set up Pegasus's batch file and got that running OK. Then I > started playing around with schtasks.exe (XP replacement for at.exe). > I'll probably end up using the latter since once a week (rather than > once a day) may be enough. (I'd rather try something like every three > days but that seems a bit too complicated). You could set the schedule as Weekly and pick say "Mondays" and "Thursdays". That's pretty close to "every three days" and not complicated.
Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? Bob I wrote: > Sid Elbow wrote: >> I started playing around with schtasks.exe ..... >> I'll probably end up using the latter since once a week (rather than >> once a day) may be enough. (I'd rather try something like every three >> days but that seems a bit too complicated). > You could set the schedule as Weekly and pick say "Mondays" and > "Thursdays". That's pretty close to "every three days" and not complicated. I wasn't aware you could do that Bob. I thought when you set /SC WEEKLY it meant once per week and you then picked one day of the week for it to occur. In fact the help file states in part: /D specifies the day of the week to run the task /M specifies month(s) of the year Which would seem to imply that you can specify multiple months (where appropriate) but not multiple days. Perhaps I'm reading too much into it? If you can pick several days, that would do it fine. I'll play some more, thanks.
Guest Bob I Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? Sid Elbow wrote: > Bob I wrote: > >> Sid Elbow wrote: > > > >>> I started playing around with schtasks.exe ..... I'll probably end up >>> using the latter since once a week (rather than once a day) may be >>> enough. (I'd rather try something like every three days but that >>> seems a bit too complicated). > > >> You could set the schedule as Weekly and pick say "Mondays" and >> "Thursdays". That's pretty close to "every three days" and not >> complicated. > > > > I wasn't aware you could do that Bob. I thought when you set /SC WEEKLY > it meant once per week and you then picked one day of the week for it > to occur. > > > In fact the help file states in part: > > /D specifies the day of the week to run the task > > /M specifies month(s) of the year > > Which would seem to imply that you can specify multiple months (where > appropriate) but not multiple days. > > > Perhaps I'm reading too much into it? If you can pick several days, that > would do it fine. I'll play some more, thanks. > Try using the Scheduled tasks Wizard, and then check the Schedule tab. I don't have a 2000 box any more. If that option isn't available, as a work around, you could have 2 tasks one for each day.
Guest Bob I Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? Sid Elbow wrote: > Bob I wrote: > >> Sid Elbow wrote: > > > >>> I started playing around with schtasks.exe ..... I'll probably end up >>> using the latter since once a week (rather than once a day) may be >>> enough. (I'd rather try something like every three days but that >>> seems a bit too complicated). > > >> You could set the schedule as Weekly and pick say "Mondays" and >> "Thursdays". That's pretty close to "every three days" and not >> complicated. > > > > I wasn't aware you could do that Bob. I thought when you set /SC WEEKLY > it meant once per week and you then picked one day of the week for it > to occur. > > > In fact the help file states in part: > > /D specifies the day of the week to run the task > > /M specifies month(s) of the year > > Which would seem to imply that you can specify multiple months (where > appropriate) but not multiple days. > > > Perhaps I'm reading too much into it? If you can pick several days, that > would do it fine. I'll play some more, thanks. > Also here is another method Example: at \\products 23:00 /every:M,T,W,Th,F backup How To Use the AT Command to Schedule Tasks http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313565
Guest Sid Elbow Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? Bob I wrote: > as a work around, you could have 2 tasks one for each day. I had a real chuckle when I read that. It seems so obvious ...... now that you've mentioned it :-)
Guest Bob I Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Re: How to create a .prn file? Sid Elbow wrote: > Bob I wrote: > >> as a work around, you could have 2 tasks one for each day. > > > I had a real chuckle when I read that. It seems so obvious ...... now > that you've mentioned it :-) > Glad to make you grin, sometimes we have to make do with what's available. ;-)
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