Vista price cuts

[Guest nospam]

Vista prices cut by as much as 48%, but not in U.S.

Prices for the OS will be trimmed 15% to 20% in the U.S.

By Gregg Keizer

 

 

February 29, 2008 (Computerworld) Microsoft Corp. is cutting the retail

price of its Windows Vista operating system by as much as 20% in the U.S.,

but will slash at least some versions' price tags by more than 46% in both

the U.K. and the European Union, the company confirmed today.

 

Late Thursday, Microsoft announced sweeping price cuts to boxed copies of

Vista, saying then that the cuts would range from as low as 3% in developed

countries to nearly 50% for some editions sold in poorer nations.

 

But by the numbers that Microsoft released today, even customers in Western

Europe — France, Germany, Spain and the U.K., among others — will also see

prices fall by nearly half.

 

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Thanks, Microsoft. I won't be buying Vista anytime soon; with 3% price cut

you can keep it. Thanks

[Guest Bo Persson]

Re: Vista price cuts

 

nospam wrote:

> Vista prices cut by as much as 48%, but not in U.S.

> Prices for the OS will be trimmed 15% to 20% in the U.S.

> By Gregg Keizer

>

>

> February 29, 2008 (Computerworld) Microsoft Corp. is cutting the

> retail price of its Windows Vista operating system by as much as

> 20% in the U.S., but will slash at least some versions' price tags

> by more than 46% in both the U.K. and the European Union, the

> company confirmed today.

> Late Thursday, Microsoft announced sweeping price cuts to boxed

> copies of Vista, saying then that the cuts would range from as low

> as 3% in developed countries to nearly 50% for some editions sold

> in poorer nations.

> But by the numbers that Microsoft released today, even customers in

> Western Europe — France, Germany, Spain and the U.K., among others

> — will also see prices fall by nearly half.

>

> -------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Thanks, Microsoft. I won't be buying Vista anytime soon; with 3%

> price cut you can keep it. Thanks

 

Have you checked the prices recently?

 

Windows Vista Ultimate $329.99 (US) or €478.45 (Germany)

 

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Ultimate-VERSION-Version/dp/B000HCTYTE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1204486992&sr=1-3

 

http://www.amazon.de/Microsoft-Windows-Vista-Ultimate-deutsch/dp/B000KCIA4Q/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1204486938&sr=1-12

 

 

Guess which version is in most need of a price cut? :-)

 

 

Bo Persson

[Guest Allan]

Re: Vista price cuts

 

 

"Bo Persson" <bop@gmb.dk> wrote in message

news:630en4F25cb5nU1@mid.individual.net...

> Have you checked the prices recently?

>

> Windows Vista Ultimate $329.99 (US) or €478.45 (Germany)

>

> http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Ultimate-VERSION-Version/dp/B000HCTYTE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1204486992&sr=1-3

>

> http://www.amazon.de/Microsoft-Windows-Vista-Ultimate-deutsch/dp/B000KCIA4Q/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1204486938&sr=1-12

>

>

> Guess which version is in most need of a price cut? :-)

>

>

> Bo Persson

>

>

They are not the same; the European version must comply with competion

(anti-trust) regulation that prohibits WMP bundling and other practices.

I guess the U.S. version should cost more, not less.

 

--

Allan

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Vista price cuts

 

No, the edition pictured is not the N edition (no WMP). Customers may buy

be the regular edition or the N edition. Few buy the N edition. The

requirement was that MS offer an edition without WMP, that's all.

 

"Allan" <mu8ja0i@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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> "Bo Persson" <bop@gmb.dk> wrote in message

> news:630en4F25cb5nU1@mid.individual.net...

>

>> Have you checked the prices recently?

>>

>> Windows Vista Ultimate $329.99 (US) or €478.45 (Germany)

>>

>> http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Ultimate-VERSION-Version/dp/B000HCTYTE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1204486992&sr=1-3

>>

>> http://www.amazon.de/Microsoft-Windows-Vista-Ultimate-deutsch/dp/B000KCIA4Q/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1204486938&sr=1-12

>>

>>

>> Guess which version is in most need of a price cut? :-)

>>

>>

>> Bo Persson

>>

>>

> They are not the same; the European version must comply with competion

> (anti-trust) regulation that prohibits WMP bundling and other practices.

> I guess the U.S. version should cost more, not less.

>

> --

> Allan

[Guest Tony Harding]

Re: Vista price cuts

 

Allan wrote:

>

> "Bo Persson" <bop@gmb.dk> wrote in message

> news:630en4F25cb5nU1@mid.individual.net...

>

>> Have you checked the prices recently?

>>

>> Windows Vista Ultimate $329.99 (US) or €478.45 (Germany)

>>

>> http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Ultimate-VERSION-Version/dp/B000HCTYTE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1204486992&sr=1-3

>>

>> http://www.amazon.de/Microsoft-Windows-Vista-Ultimate-deutsch/dp/B000KCIA4Q/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1204486938&sr=1-12

>>

>> Guess which version is in most need of a price cut? :-)

>>

>> Bo Persson

>>

>>

> They are not the same; the European version must comply with competion

> (anti-trust) regulation that prohibits WMP bundling and other practices.

> I guess the U.S. version should cost more, not less.

 

I suppose the US versions would cost more if the software in question

had any value (IIRC Internet Explorer must also not be integrated along

with WMP). ;)

[Guest Tony Harding]

Re: Vista price cuts

 

nospam wrote:

> Vista prices cut by as much as 48%, but not in U.S.

> Prices for the OS will be trimmed 15% to 20% in the U.S.

> By Gregg Keizer

>

>

> February 29, 2008 (Computerworld) Microsoft Corp. is cutting the retail

> price of its Windows Vista operating system by as much as 20% in the U.S.,

> but will slash at least some versions' price tags by more than 46% in both

> the U.K. and the European Union, the company confirmed today.

>

> Late Thursday, Microsoft announced sweeping price cuts to boxed copies of

> Vista, saying then that the cuts would range from as low as 3% in developed

> countries to nearly 50% for some editions sold in poorer nations.

>

> But by the numbers that Microsoft released today, even customers in Western

> Europe — France, Germany, Spain and the U.K., among others — will also see

> prices fall by nearly half.

>

> -------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Thanks, Microsoft. I won't be buying Vista anytime soon; with 3% price cut

> you can keep it. Thanks

 

There was a longer piece on this recently in the NY Times:

 

February 29, 2008, 12:02 pm

Vista’s Price Falls; How Long Before Yahoo’s Price Rises?

 

By Saul Hansell

 

If you want to understand Microsoft’s motivation for buying Yahoo, look

at the price cuts announced today for Windows Vista. (Stay with me on this.)

 

The price cuts for boxed copies of Vista are especially big in

developing countries, where users will be able to buy full versions of

the operating system for the price they would have paid for an upgrade.

(The better to prevent piracy, Microsoft says.)

 

In the United States, the main difference will be with the Premium

edition (now $129 instead of $159) and the Ultimate ($219, down from $299).

 

Microsoft says the cuts are meant to lift sales in retail stores, a

small segment of the Windows market. The vast majority of operating

systems, of course, are sold bundled with computers.

 

Microsoft’s many critics are gloating that this shows Vista shipped with

far more bugs than features.

 

No matter how good Vista may be, there is another force at work here:

The price people are willing to pay for software is coming down.

 

A software package — even an operating system — seems out of whack at

$299 or even $159, when there is so much that can now be done free over

the Web or through free downloads like iTunes and Google’s Picasa. Those

prices also don’t really jibe with the cost of personal computers, which

now start at $500.

 

Microsoft itself has already confronted this by creating the “Student

and Teacher” version of Office. Now you can buy Word, Excel and

PowerPoint (not Outlook) for $129 (plus whatever guilt you feel as you

justify the purchase by saying that your spinning class at the gym makes

you a student).

 

One look at Microsoft’s high profit margins certainly raises questions

about how long this business model can continue before someone creates a

more efficient model. The combination of the open source movement, the

Web, and the advertising-supported software model epitomized by Google

are starting to have the long-predicted effect.

 

So while the prices Microsoft can charge for its boxed software may be

falling, the price it will pay for its own Web software and advertising

play — Yahoo — is likely to rise.

 

Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company

 

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/29/vistas-price-falls-how-long-before-yahoos-price-rises/index.html?ref=technology

[Guest Jud Hendrix]

Re: Vista price cuts

 

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:50:02 +0100, "Bo Persson" <bop@gmb.dk> wrote:

>Guess which version is in most need of a price cut? :-)

 

Best not to buy it, to force the price down to the same as in the US. The

dollar is sliding every day against the Euro, but the price still stays

much higher. We're considering of implementing our renderfarm on Linux now,

because it's a lot cheaper. Even these price-cuts won't really make it

justifiable.

 

jud

[Guest Allan]

Re: Vista price cuts

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> No, the edition pictured is not the N edition (no WMP). Customers may buy

> be the regular edition or the N edition. Few buy the N edition. The

> requirement was that MS offer an edition without WMP, that's all.

>

Then the two products are the same basically but the European price is

higher nonetheless. Retail buyers prefer the regular (non-N) edition which

seems to undermine the competition commission's position, regardless of the

legal basis for it.

 

--

Allan

[Guest Bo Persson]

Re: Vista price cuts

 

Allan wrote:

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:E3E08269-7F32-4D4D-AE47-317D0D0A3828@microsoft.com...

>> No, the edition pictured is not the N edition (no WMP). Customers

>> may buy be the regular edition or the N edition. Few buy the N

>> edition. The requirement was that MS offer an edition without

>> WMP, that's all.

> Then the two products are the same basically but the European price

> is higher nonetheless. Retail buyers prefer the regular (non-N)

> edition which seems to undermine the competition commission's

> position, regardless of the legal basis for it.

 

There is no legal requirements to either sell or buy any specific

version, only that Microsoft has to provide the N version.

 

As the price is the same, there is no good reason to have both in

stock. Any person knowledable enough to tell the difference, can

easily fix the installation anyway, by uninstalling WMP. Who else

cares?

 

 

 

Bo Persson

[Guest xGamer]

RE: Vista price cuts

 

Prices are m,uch cheaper.. You can get Vista Ultimate x64 for under $200.00.

 

US Pricing: $189.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116215

 

Vat Pricing: £94.49

http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=11759&category_id=225&manufacturer_id=0

 

Chris

 

"nospam" wrote:

> Vista prices cut by as much as 48%, but not in U.S.

> Prices for the OS will be trimmed 15% to 20% in the U.S.

> By Gregg Keizer

>

>

> February 29, 2008 (Computerworld) Microsoft Corp. is cutting the retail

> price of its Windows Vista operating system by as much as 20% in the U.S.,

> but will slash at least some versions' price tags by more than 46% in both

> the U.K. and the European Union, the company confirmed today.

>

> Late Thursday, Microsoft announced sweeping price cuts to boxed copies of

> Vista, saying then that the cuts would range from as low as 3% in developed

> countries to nearly 50% for some editions sold in poorer nations.

>

> But by the numbers that Microsoft released today, even customers in Western

> Europe — France, Germany, Spain and the U.K., among others — will also see

> prices fall by nearly half.

>

> -------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Thanks, Microsoft. I won't be buying Vista anytime soon; with 3% price cut

> you can keep it. Thanks

>

>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Vista price cuts

 

That's not much cheaper. That's the system builder version.

 

This is the retail version, standard edition.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116140

 

and this is the retail upgrade edition.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116141

 

 

"xGamer" <xGamer@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:F05C81B2-F1E2-4BBF-8726-7ACC02E91B72@microsoft.com...

> Prices are m,uch cheaper.. You can get Vista Ultimate x64 for under

> $200.00.

>

> US Pricing: $189.99

> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116215

>

> Vat Pricing: £94.49

> http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=11759&category_id=225&manufacturer_id=0

>

> Chris

>

> "nospam" wrote:

>

>> Vista prices cut by as much as 48%, but not in U.S.

>> Prices for the OS will be trimmed 15% to 20% in the U.S.

>> By Gregg Keizer

>>

>>

>> February 29, 2008 (Computerworld) Microsoft Corp. is cutting the retail

>> price of its Windows Vista operating system by as much as 20% in the

>> U.S.,

>> but will slash at least some versions' price tags by more than 46% in

>> both

>> the U.K. and the European Union, the company confirmed today.

>>

>> Late Thursday, Microsoft announced sweeping price cuts to boxed copies of

>> Vista, saying then that the cuts would range from as low as 3% in

>> developed

>> countries to nearly 50% for some editions sold in poorer nations.

>>

>> But by the numbers that Microsoft released today, even customers in

>> Western

>> Europe — France, Germany, Spain and the U.K., among others — will also

>> see

>> prices fall by nearly half.

>>

>> -------------------------------------------------------------

>>

>> Thanks, Microsoft. I won't be buying Vista anytime soon; with 3% price

>> cut

>> you can keep it. Thanks

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Bolshoi]

Re: Vista price cuts

 

xGamer wrote:

> Prices are m,uch cheaper.. You can get Vista Ultimate x64 for under $200.00.

 

 

Why the hell would I want to? Can't do anything with it

[Guest frogger]

Re: Vista price cuts

 

xGamer wrote:

> Prices are m,uch cheaper.. You can get Vista Ultimate x64 for under $200.00.

>

> US Pricing: $189.99

 

.... and then what?