Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

March 10, 2008

Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit edition

on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13 ghz and 4

gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run on this

version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try booting from

the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit and just

want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version of

Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit? Thanks!

March 10, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

You cannot run the 64bit Setup from a 32bit desktop because it is a 64bit

program. You have to boot the computer with the dvd and install that way.

You cannot upgrade Vista 32bit to Vista 64bit anyway. You have to do a

custom installation. If you are going to install to the same volume you are

now using VHP on then use the Windows Easy Transfer wizard to save your

files and settings to intermediate storage and then restore them after

Ultimate is up and running. You will have to reinstall your apps anyway.

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

> edition

> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13 ghz and

> 4

> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run on

> this

> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try booting

> from

> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit and

> just

> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version of

> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

> Thanks!

>

March 10, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

OK, thanks. I am not very techy though, how do I boot from the dvd? Also,

should I go through all the trouble to install this or just upgrade to the

Ultimate 32-bit? I was under the impression that the 64-bit would take more

advantage of the system's specs. Please let me know if it is worth it. Thanks!

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> You cannot run the 64bit Setup from a 32bit desktop because it is a 64bit

> program. You have to boot the computer with the dvd and install that way.

> You cannot upgrade Vista 32bit to Vista 64bit anyway. You have to do a

> custom installation. If you are going to install to the same volume you are

> now using VHP on then use the Windows Easy Transfer wizard to save your

> files and settings to intermediate storage and then restore them after

> Ultimate is up and running. You will have to reinstall your apps anyway.

>

> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

> > Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

> > edition

> > on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13 ghz and

> > 4

> > gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run on

> > this

> > version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try booting

> > from

> > the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit and

> > just

> > want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version of

> > Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

> > Thanks!

> >

>

March 10, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Unless I misunderstand what you wrote, you have Windows Vista Home Premium

32 bit runnung and you are trying to do an install of Windows Vista Ultimate

64 bit. This will not work.

Start the computer from power-off, insert the DVD and run the setup from

the DVD. You will have to install Vista 64 bit to a different partition or a

different HD from Vista 32 bit. Alternately, you can delete the present

installation and install to a clean drive.

There are instructions for doing this on various Internet sites. If you let

us know what you want to do, someone can provide more detailed suggestions.

I am far too lazy to provide instructions for all possible scenarios.

Tom

MSMVP 1998-2007

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

> edition

> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13 ghz and

> 4

> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run on

> this

> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try booting

> from

> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit and

> just

> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version of

> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

> Thanks!

>

March 10, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Make sure that the dvd drive is ahead of the hdd in the boot order in the

BIOS. Once you do that, insert the dvd in the drive tray and restart the

computer. When you see the message "press any key to boot from the dvd..."

press a key. That is the only time you respond to that message. The next

times the computer reboots you will not want to boot from the dvd all over

again so you will let that message time out.

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:52297CEA-57FE-4DB3-B097-02FE5D8DC06A@microsoft.com...

> OK, thanks. I am not very techy though, how do I boot from the dvd? Also,

> should I go through all the trouble to install this or just upgrade to the

> Ultimate 32-bit? I was under the impression that the 64-bit would take

> more

> advantage of the system's specs. Please let me know if it is worth it.

> Thanks!

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

>

>> You cannot run the 64bit Setup from a 32bit desktop because it is a 64bit

>> program. You have to boot the computer with the dvd and install that

>> way.

>> You cannot upgrade Vista 32bit to Vista 64bit anyway. You have to do a

>> custom installation. If you are going to install to the same volume you

>> are

>> now using VHP on then use the Windows Easy Transfer wizard to save your

>> files and settings to intermediate storage and then restore them after

>> Ultimate is up and running. You will have to reinstall your apps anyway.

>>

>> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

>> > Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

>> > edition

>> > on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13 ghz

>> > and

>> > 4

>> > gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run on

>> > this

>> > version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try booting

>> > from

>> > the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit

>> > and

>> > just

>> > want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version of

>> > Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

>> > Thanks!

>> >

>>

March 10, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Whether it is worth migrating to x64 is up to you. Since you have 4GB I

think it is. Remember, though, that you need 64bit drivers for the devices

on your computer and may need 64bit versions of one or two programs. Why

don't you take some time to check some websites to be sure that you can get

everything you need?

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:52297CEA-57FE-4DB3-B097-02FE5D8DC06A@microsoft.com...

> OK, thanks. I am not very techy though, how do I boot from the dvd? Also,

> should I go through all the trouble to install this or just upgrade to the

> Ultimate 32-bit? I was under the impression that the 64-bit would take

> more

> advantage of the system's specs. Please let me know if it is worth it.

> Thanks!

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

>

>> You cannot run the 64bit Setup from a 32bit desktop because it is a 64bit

>> program. You have to boot the computer with the dvd and install that

>> way.

>> You cannot upgrade Vista 32bit to Vista 64bit anyway. You have to do a

>> custom installation. If you are going to install to the same volume you

>> are

>> now using VHP on then use the Windows Easy Transfer wizard to save your

>> files and settings to intermediate storage and then restore them after

>> Ultimate is up and running. You will have to reinstall your apps anyway.

>>

>> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

>> > Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

>> > edition

>> > on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13 ghz

>> > and

>> > 4

>> > gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run on

>> > this

>> > version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try booting

>> > from

>> > the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit

>> > and

>> > just

>> > want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version of

>> > Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

>> > Thanks!

>> >

>>

March 10, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Tom, you are correct. What I would like to do is get rid of Home Premium

32-bit and upgrade to Ultimate 64-bit. How do I go about uninstalling the

32-bit and then upgrading to the 64-bit? Thanks!

"Tom Ferguson" wrote:

> Unless I misunderstand what you wrote, you have Windows Vista Home Premium

> 32 bit runnung and you are trying to do an install of Windows Vista Ultimate

> 64 bit. This will not work.

>

> Start the computer from power-off, insert the DVD and run the setup from

> the DVD. You will have to install Vista 64 bit to a different partition or a

> different HD from Vista 32 bit. Alternately, you can delete the present

> installation and install to a clean drive.

>

> There are instructions for doing this on various Internet sites. If you let

> us know what you want to do, someone can provide more detailed suggestions.

> I am far too lazy to provide instructions for all possible scenarios.

>

> Tom

> MSMVP 1998-2007

>

> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

> > Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

> > edition

> > on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13 ghz and

> > 4

> > gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run on

> > this

> > version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try booting

> > from

> > the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit and

> > just

> > want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version of

> > Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

> > Thanks!

> >

>

March 10, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

You don't uninstall it. When you boot with the 64bit dvd you will have the

drive tools available to remove, recreate, and format partitions. Remove

the partition with VHP on it, create a new one in its place for VU x64 and

just install.

You haven't said whether your VU product key is upgrade or standard. If it

is an upgrade key then you need to leave VHP in place until after you have

entered the VU pk. At that point Setup will search your computer, find the

VHP installation, and proceed. From that point on you no longer need the

VHP installation and can delete its partition.

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A2325E28-F59A-44B6-BE8A-9ABE56747869@microsoft.com...

> Tom, you are correct. What I would like to do is get rid of Home Premium

> 32-bit and upgrade to Ultimate 64-bit. How do I go about uninstalling the

> 32-bit and then upgrading to the 64-bit? Thanks!

>

> "Tom Ferguson" wrote:

>

>> Unless I misunderstand what you wrote, you have Windows Vista Home

>> Premium

>> 32 bit runnung and you are trying to do an install of Windows Vista

>> Ultimate

>> 64 bit. This will not work.

>>

>> Start the computer from power-off, insert the DVD and run the setup from

>> the DVD. You will have to install Vista 64 bit to a different partition

>> or a

>> different HD from Vista 32 bit. Alternately, you can delete the present

>> installation and install to a clean drive.

>>

>> There are instructions for doing this on various Internet sites. If you

>> let

>> us know what you want to do, someone can provide more detailed

>> suggestions.

>> I am far too lazy to provide instructions for all possible scenarios.

>>

>> Tom

>> MSMVP 1998-2007

>>

>> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

>> > Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

>> > edition

>> > on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13 ghz

>> > and

>> > 4

>> > gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run on

>> > this

>> > version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try booting

>> > from

>> > the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit

>> > and

>> > just

>> > want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version of

>> > Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

>> > Thanks!

>> >

>>

March 10, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Actually, a little bit more information is needed to give you the correct

instructions:

1. Is your Vista Home Premium OEM, Retail Full Version, or an Upgrade?

The answer to this determines the path to x64.

With VHP OEM, I believe you cannot "upgrade" or "migrate" to x64. You are

required to buy a Full or Upgrade license. Best to talk to the vendor who

sold you the system. This may be causing your error message.

With VHP Upgrade, you must first wipe your hard drive and re-install a valid

upgrade path OS on your system: XP SP2, W2K, etc. Then, you custom install

x64 using you Ultimate PK.

With VHP Full Version, you do as others stated by booting from the dvd and

selecting custom install.

Installation instructions:

A good review of this article is important:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

edition

> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13 ghz and

4

> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run on

this

> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try booting

from

> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit and

just

> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version of

> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

Thanks!

>

March 10, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

With an upgrade product key and an x64 dvd the user still boots with the dvd

and enters the pk just like he does with a full edition pk. Unlike when

booting with the the x86 dvd, the user is NOT instructed to run Setup from

the existing Windows. That only happens with the x86 dvd. Instead x64

Setup verifies that an eligible copy of Windows is installed and then

proceeds exactly as if booting with a full edition pk. From that point on

the user has access to the disk tools and can perform a clean install in the

classic sense.

It is only with the x86 dvd that an upgrade pk requires running Setup from

an existing Windows. When Setup is run from within an existing Windows the

disk tools are not available and that's why the well-known workaround is

needed if the user wants to perform a classic clean install with an upgrade

pk.

"Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

news:%23rF4AUqgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Actually, a little bit more information is needed to give you the correct

> instructions:

>

> 1. Is your Vista Home Premium OEM, Retail Full Version, or an Upgrade?

>

> The answer to this determines the path to x64.

> With VHP OEM, I believe you cannot "upgrade" or "migrate" to x64. You are

> required to buy a Full or Upgrade license. Best to talk to the vendor who

> sold you the system. This may be causing your error message.

> With VHP Upgrade, you must first wipe your hard drive and re-install a

> valid

> upgrade path OS on your system: XP SP2, W2K, etc. Then, you custom install

> x64 using you Ultimate PK.

> With VHP Full Version, you do as others stated by booting from the dvd and

> selecting custom install.

> Installation instructions:

> A good review of this article is important:

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>

> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

>> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

> edition

>> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13 ghz

>> and

> 4

>> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run on

> this

>> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try booting

> from

>> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit and

> just

>> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version of

>> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

> Thanks!

>>

>

March 10, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

(My point about an upgrade PK is that you must revert to XP prior to using

it to install x64 from Vista x86.)

Copied directly from the Microsoft site:

Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on a computer that is running a

32-bit version of Windows Vista

If you have purchased an Upgrade license together with a Windows Vista DVD,

you must use one of the following methods:

Method 1

Purchase a full version of the 64-bit version of Windows Vista.

Method 2

1. Remove the 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

2. Install Windows XP.

3. Install the 64-bit version of Windows Vista by using an installation

method that is listed earlier in this article.

If you have purchased a full license together with a Windows Vista DVD,

follow these steps:

1. Back up all the data and settings by using Windows Easy Transfer. Windows

Easy Transfer is available on the Windows Vista DVD. However, you must use

the version that is on the Windows Vista DVD for your currently installed

32-bit version of Windows Vista.

2. Insert the 64-bit version of Windows Vista into the system DVD drive, and

then restart the computer.

3. Start Windows Vista Setup from the DVD when you are prompted.

Note You must start Windows Vista Setup by starting the computer from the

Windows Vista 64-bit DVD. The installation package will not run on a 32-bit

operating system.

4. When you are prompted during Windows Vista Setup, remember to select

Custom as your installation choice.

5. When the installation is complete, you can restore the data from its

backup location.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:48153015-E1FA-4DF6-8DDF-E69C6D010B46@microsoft.com...

> With an upgrade product key and an x64 dvd the user still boots with the

dvd

> and enters the pk just like he does with a full edition pk. Unlike when

> booting with the the x86 dvd, the user is NOT instructed to run Setup from

> the existing Windows. That only happens with the x86 dvd. Instead x64

> Setup verifies that an eligible copy of Windows is installed and then

> proceeds exactly as if booting with a full edition pk. From that point on

> the user has access to the disk tools and can perform a clean install in

the

> classic sense.

>

> It is only with the x86 dvd that an upgrade pk requires running Setup from

> an existing Windows. When Setup is run from within an existing Windows

the

> disk tools are not available and that's why the well-known workaround is

> needed if the user wants to perform a classic clean install with an

upgrade

> pk.

>

> "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

> news:%23rF4AUqgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Actually, a little bit more information is needed to give you the

correct

> > instructions:

> >

> > 1. Is your Vista Home Premium OEM, Retail Full Version, or an Upgrade?

> >

> > The answer to this determines the path to x64.

> > With VHP OEM, I believe you cannot "upgrade" or "migrate" to x64. You

are

> > required to buy a Full or Upgrade license. Best to talk to the vendor

who

> > sold you the system. This may be causing your error message.

> > With VHP Upgrade, you must first wipe your hard drive and re-install a

> > valid

> > upgrade path OS on your system: XP SP2, W2K, etc. Then, you custom

install

> > x64 using you Ultimate PK.

> > With VHP Full Version, you do as others stated by booting from the dvd

and

> > selecting custom install.

> > Installation instructions:

> > A good review of this article is important:

> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

> >

> > "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

> >> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

> > edition

> >> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13 ghz

> >> and

> > 4

> >> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run on

> > this

> >> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try booting

> > from

> >> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit

and

> > just

> >> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version of

> >> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

> > Thanks!

> >>

> >

>

March 10, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

OK, I bought the full version of Vista Ultimate from Best Buy not from the

upgrade site. Also, how do I boot the computer from the DVD? Sorry I am not

very tech saavy! So when I boot from the dvd I will unistall Home Premium

32-bit first then install Ultimate 64-bit? I will also lose all of my

applications correct? What about like all of my Office applications? Do I

need to backup all my music and documents?

"Mark" wrote:

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>

> (My point about an upgrade PK is that you must revert to XP prior to using

> it to install x64 from Vista x86.)

>

> Copied directly from the Microsoft site:

>

> Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on a computer that is running a

> 32-bit version of Windows Vista

>

> If you have purchased an Upgrade license together with a Windows Vista DVD,

> you must use one of the following methods:

>

> Method 1

> Purchase a full version of the 64-bit version of Windows Vista.

>

> Method 2

> 1. Remove the 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

> 2. Install Windows XP.

>

> 3. Install the 64-bit version of Windows Vista by using an installation

> method that is listed earlier in this article.

>

> If you have purchased a full license together with a Windows Vista DVD,

> follow these steps:

>

> 1. Back up all the data and settings by using Windows Easy Transfer. Windows

> Easy Transfer is available on the Windows Vista DVD. However, you must use

> the version that is on the Windows Vista DVD for your currently installed

> 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>

> 2. Insert the 64-bit version of Windows Vista into the system DVD drive, and

> then restart the computer.

>

> 3. Start Windows Vista Setup from the DVD when you are prompted.

> Note You must start Windows Vista Setup by starting the computer from the

> Windows Vista 64-bit DVD. The installation package will not run on a 32-bit

> operating system.

>

> 4. When you are prompted during Windows Vista Setup, remember to select

> Custom as your installation choice.

>

> 5. When the installation is complete, you can restore the data from its

> backup location.

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:48153015-E1FA-4DF6-8DDF-E69C6D010B46@microsoft.com...

> > With an upgrade product key and an x64 dvd the user still boots with the

> dvd

> > and enters the pk just like he does with a full edition pk. Unlike when

> > booting with the the x86 dvd, the user is NOT instructed to run Setup from

> > the existing Windows. That only happens with the x86 dvd. Instead x64

> > Setup verifies that an eligible copy of Windows is installed and then

> > proceeds exactly as if booting with a full edition pk. From that point on

> > the user has access to the disk tools and can perform a clean install in

> the

> > classic sense.

> >

> > It is only with the x86 dvd that an upgrade pk requires running Setup from

> > an existing Windows. When Setup is run from within an existing Windows

> the

> > disk tools are not available and that's why the well-known workaround is

> > needed if the user wants to perform a classic clean install with an

> upgrade

> > pk.

> >

> > "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

> > news:%23rF4AUqgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > > Actually, a little bit more information is needed to give you the

> correct

> > > instructions:

> > >

> > > 1. Is your Vista Home Premium OEM, Retail Full Version, or an Upgrade?

> > >

> > > The answer to this determines the path to x64.

> > > With VHP OEM, I believe you cannot "upgrade" or "migrate" to x64. You

> are

> > > required to buy a Full or Upgrade license. Best to talk to the vendor

> who

> > > sold you the system. This may be causing your error message.

> > > With VHP Upgrade, you must first wipe your hard drive and re-install a

> > > valid

> > > upgrade path OS on your system: XP SP2, W2K, etc. Then, you custom

> install

> > > x64 using you Ultimate PK.

> > > With VHP Full Version, you do as others stated by booting from the dvd

> and

> > > selecting custom install.

> > > Installation instructions:

> > > A good review of this article is important:

> > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

> > >

> > > "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

> > >> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

> > > edition

> > >> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13 ghz

> > >> and

> > > 4

> > >> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run on

>

> > > this

> > >> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try booting

> > > from

> > >> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit

> and

> > > just

> > >> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version of

> > >> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

> > > Thanks!

> > >>

> > >

> >

>

March 10, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Make sure that the cd drive is ahead of the hard drive in the boot order in

the Bios. Then insert the dvd and restart the computer. When you see a

message "Press any key to boot from cd or dvd...." press a key. The

computer will boot from the dvd and you will be into Vista Setup. As the OS

installs the computer will reboot several times. You will see the same

message about "Press any key...." each time briefly but do not press a key

and the computer will boot from the hard drive and continue installation.

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:150EFCBB-8767-4DE4-A4ED-E79E61D33A27@microsoft.com...

> OK, I bought the full version of Vista Ultimate from Best Buy not from the

> upgrade site. Also, how do I boot the computer from the DVD? Sorry I am

> not

> very tech saavy! So when I boot from the dvd I will unistall Home Premium

> 32-bit first then install Ultimate 64-bit? I will also lose all of my

> applications correct? What about like all of my Office applications? Do I

> need to backup all my music and documents?

>

> "Mark" wrote:

>

>>

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>>

>> (My point about an upgrade PK is that you must revert to XP prior to

>> using

>> it to install x64 from Vista x86.)

>>

>> Copied directly from the Microsoft site:

>>

>> Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on a computer that is

>> running a

>> 32-bit version of Windows Vista

>>

>> If you have purchased an Upgrade license together with a Windows Vista

>> DVD,

>> you must use one of the following methods:

>>

>> Method 1

>> Purchase a full version of the 64-bit version of Windows Vista.

>>

>> Method 2

>> 1. Remove the 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> 2. Install Windows XP.

>>

>> 3. Install the 64-bit version of Windows Vista by using an installation

>> method that is listed earlier in this article.

>>

>> If you have purchased a full license together with a Windows Vista DVD,

>> follow these steps:

>>

>> 1. Back up all the data and settings by using Windows Easy Transfer.

>> Windows

>> Easy Transfer is available on the Windows Vista DVD. However, you must

>> use

>> the version that is on the Windows Vista DVD for your currently installed

>> 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>>

>> 2. Insert the 64-bit version of Windows Vista into the system DVD drive,

>> and

>> then restart the computer.

>>

>> 3. Start Windows Vista Setup from the DVD when you are prompted.

>> Note You must start Windows Vista Setup by starting the computer from the

>> Windows Vista 64-bit DVD. The installation package will not run on a

>> 32-bit

>> operating system.

>>

>> 4. When you are prompted during Windows Vista Setup, remember to select

>> Custom as your installation choice.

>>

>> 5. When the installation is complete, you can restore the data from its

>> backup location.

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:48153015-E1FA-4DF6-8DDF-E69C6D010B46@microsoft.com...

>> > With an upgrade product key and an x64 dvd the user still boots with

>> > the

>> dvd

>> > and enters the pk just like he does with a full edition pk. Unlike

>> > when

>> > booting with the the x86 dvd, the user is NOT instructed to run Setup

>> > from

>> > the existing Windows. That only happens with the x86 dvd. Instead x64

>> > Setup verifies that an eligible copy of Windows is installed and then

>> > proceeds exactly as if booting with a full edition pk. From that point

>> > on

>> > the user has access to the disk tools and can perform a clean install

>> > in

>> the

>> > classic sense.

>> >

>> > It is only with the x86 dvd that an upgrade pk requires running Setup

>> > from

>> > an existing Windows. When Setup is run from within an existing Windows

>> the

>> > disk tools are not available and that's why the well-known workaround

>> > is

>> > needed if the user wants to perform a classic clean install with an

>> upgrade

>> > pk.

>> >

>> > "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

>> > news:%23rF4AUqgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > > Actually, a little bit more information is needed to give you the

>> correct

>> > > instructions:

>> > >

>> > > 1. Is your Vista Home Premium OEM, Retail Full Version, or an

>> > > Upgrade?

>> > >

>> > > The answer to this determines the path to x64.

>> > > With VHP OEM, I believe you cannot "upgrade" or "migrate" to x64. You

>> are

>> > > required to buy a Full or Upgrade license. Best to talk to the vendor

>> who

>> > > sold you the system. This may be causing your error message.

>> > > With VHP Upgrade, you must first wipe your hard drive and re-install

>> > > a

>> > > valid

>> > > upgrade path OS on your system: XP SP2, W2K, etc. Then, you custom

>> install

>> > > x64 using you Ultimate PK.

>> > > With VHP Full Version, you do as others stated by booting from the

>> > > dvd

>> and

>> > > selecting custom install.

>> > > Installation instructions:

>> > > A good review of this article is important:

>> > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>> > >

>> > > "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> > > news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

>> > >> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate

>> > >> 64-bit

>> > > edition

>> > >> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13

>> > >> ghz

>> > >> and

>> > > 4

>> > >> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run

>> > >> on

>>

>> > > this

>> > >> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try

>> > >> booting

>> > > from

>> > >> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit

>> and

>> > > just

>> > >> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version

>> > >> of

>> > >> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

>> > > Thanks!

>> > >>

>> > >

>> >

>>

March 11, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Since you have the full version, as mentioned earlier, you delete the

partition with VHP, create a new partition, format and then continue with

the install of VU

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:150EFCBB-8767-4DE4-A4ED-E79E61D33A27@microsoft.com...

> OK, I bought the full version of Vista Ultimate from Best Buy not from the

> upgrade site. Also, how do I boot the computer from the DVD? Sorry I am

> not

> very tech saavy! So when I boot from the dvd I will unistall Home Premium

> 32-bit first then install Ultimate 64-bit? I will also lose all of my

> applications correct? What about like all of my Office applications? Do I

> need to backup all my music and documents?

>

> "Mark" wrote:

>

>>

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>>

>> (My point about an upgrade PK is that you must revert to XP prior to

>> using

>> it to install x64 from Vista x86.)

>>

>> Copied directly from the Microsoft site:

>>

>> Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on a computer that is

>> running a

>> 32-bit version of Windows Vista

>>

>> If you have purchased an Upgrade license together with a Windows Vista

>> DVD,

>> you must use one of the following methods:

>>

>> Method 1

>> Purchase a full version of the 64-bit version of Windows Vista.

>>

>> Method 2

>> 1. Remove the 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> 2. Install Windows XP.

>>

>> 3. Install the 64-bit version of Windows Vista by using an installation

>> method that is listed earlier in this article.

>>

>> If you have purchased a full license together with a Windows Vista DVD,

>> follow these steps:

>>

>> 1. Back up all the data and settings by using Windows Easy Transfer.

>> Windows

>> Easy Transfer is available on the Windows Vista DVD. However, you must

>> use

>> the version that is on the Windows Vista DVD for your currently installed

>> 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>>

>> 2. Insert the 64-bit version of Windows Vista into the system DVD drive,

>> and

>> then restart the computer.

>>

>> 3. Start Windows Vista Setup from the DVD when you are prompted.

>> Note You must start Windows Vista Setup by starting the computer from the

>> Windows Vista 64-bit DVD. The installation package will not run on a

>> 32-bit

>> operating system.

>>

>> 4. When you are prompted during Windows Vista Setup, remember to select

>> Custom as your installation choice.

>>

>> 5. When the installation is complete, you can restore the data from its

>> backup location.

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:48153015-E1FA-4DF6-8DDF-E69C6D010B46@microsoft.com...

>> > With an upgrade product key and an x64 dvd the user still boots with

>> > the

>> dvd

>> > and enters the pk just like he does with a full edition pk. Unlike

>> > when

>> > booting with the the x86 dvd, the user is NOT instructed to run Setup

>> > from

>> > the existing Windows. That only happens with the x86 dvd. Instead x64

>> > Setup verifies that an eligible copy of Windows is installed and then

>> > proceeds exactly as if booting with a full edition pk. From that point

>> > on

>> > the user has access to the disk tools and can perform a clean install

>> > in

>> the

>> > classic sense.

>> >

>> > It is only with the x86 dvd that an upgrade pk requires running Setup

>> > from

>> > an existing Windows. When Setup is run from within an existing Windows

>> the

>> > disk tools are not available and that's why the well-known workaround

>> > is

>> > needed if the user wants to perform a classic clean install with an

>> upgrade

>> > pk.

>> >

>> > "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

>> > news:%23rF4AUqgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > > Actually, a little bit more information is needed to give you the

>> correct

>> > > instructions:

>> > >

>> > > 1. Is your Vista Home Premium OEM, Retail Full Version, or an

>> > > Upgrade?

>> > >

>> > > The answer to this determines the path to x64.

>> > > With VHP OEM, I believe you cannot "upgrade" or "migrate" to x64. You

>> are

>> > > required to buy a Full or Upgrade license. Best to talk to the vendor

>> who

>> > > sold you the system. This may be causing your error message.

>> > > With VHP Upgrade, you must first wipe your hard drive and re-install

>> > > a

>> > > valid

>> > > upgrade path OS on your system: XP SP2, W2K, etc. Then, you custom

>> install

>> > > x64 using you Ultimate PK.

>> > > With VHP Full Version, you do as others stated by booting from the

>> > > dvd

>> and

>> > > selecting custom install.

>> > > Installation instructions:

>> > > A good review of this article is important:

>> > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>> > >

>> > > "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> > > news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

>> > >> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate

>> > >> 64-bit

>> > > edition

>> > >> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13

>> > >> ghz

>> > >> and

>> > > 4

>> > >> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run

>> > >> on

>>

>> > > this

>> > >> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try

>> > >> booting

>> > > from

>> > >> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit

>> and

>> > > just

>> > >> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version

>> > >> of

>> > >> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

>> > > Thanks!

>> > >>

>> > >

>> >

>>

March 11, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Will I lose all of my music and documents? I know I will have to reinstall

all of my programs though. Also, when I loaded from the CD it went right into

the install. Nothing about partitions came up or anything...

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Since you have the full version, as mentioned earlier, you delete the

> partition with VHP, create a new partition, format and then continue with

> the install of VU

>

> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:150EFCBB-8767-4DE4-A4ED-E79E61D33A27@microsoft.com...

> > OK, I bought the full version of Vista Ultimate from Best Buy not from the

> > upgrade site. Also, how do I boot the computer from the DVD? Sorry I am

> > not

> > very tech saavy! So when I boot from the dvd I will unistall Home Premium

> > 32-bit first then install Ultimate 64-bit? I will also lose all of my

> > applications correct? What about like all of my Office applications? Do I

> > need to backup all my music and documents?

> >

> > "Mark" wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

> >>

> >> (My point about an upgrade PK is that you must revert to XP prior to

> >> using

> >> it to install x64 from Vista x86.)

> >>

> >> Copied directly from the Microsoft site:

> >>

> >> Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on a computer that is

> >> running a

> >> 32-bit version of Windows Vista

> >>

> >> If you have purchased an Upgrade license together with a Windows Vista

> >> DVD,

> >> you must use one of the following methods:

> >>

> >> Method 1

> >> Purchase a full version of the 64-bit version of Windows Vista.

> >>

> >> Method 2

> >> 1. Remove the 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

> >> 2. Install Windows XP.

> >>

> >> 3. Install the 64-bit version of Windows Vista by using an installation

> >> method that is listed earlier in this article.

> >>

> >> If you have purchased a full license together with a Windows Vista DVD,

> >> follow these steps:

> >>

> >> 1. Back up all the data and settings by using Windows Easy Transfer.

> >> Windows

> >> Easy Transfer is available on the Windows Vista DVD. However, you must

> >> use

> >> the version that is on the Windows Vista DVD for your currently installed

> >> 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

> >>

> >> 2. Insert the 64-bit version of Windows Vista into the system DVD drive,

> >> and

> >> then restart the computer.

> >>

> >> 3. Start Windows Vista Setup from the DVD when you are prompted.

> >> Note You must start Windows Vista Setup by starting the computer from the

> >> Windows Vista 64-bit DVD. The installation package will not run on a

> >> 32-bit

> >> operating system.

> >>

> >> 4. When you are prompted during Windows Vista Setup, remember to select

> >> Custom as your installation choice.

> >>

> >> 5. When the installation is complete, you can restore the data from its

> >> backup location.

> >>

> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> >> news:48153015-E1FA-4DF6-8DDF-E69C6D010B46@microsoft.com...

> >> > With an upgrade product key and an x64 dvd the user still boots with

> >> > the

> >> dvd

> >> > and enters the pk just like he does with a full edition pk. Unlike

> >> > when

> >> > booting with the the x86 dvd, the user is NOT instructed to run Setup

> >> > from

> >> > the existing Windows. That only happens with the x86 dvd. Instead x64

> >> > Setup verifies that an eligible copy of Windows is installed and then

> >> > proceeds exactly as if booting with a full edition pk. From that point

> >> > on

> >> > the user has access to the disk tools and can perform a clean install

> >> > in

> >> the

> >> > classic sense.

> >> >

> >> > It is only with the x86 dvd that an upgrade pk requires running Setup

> >> > from

> >> > an existing Windows. When Setup is run from within an existing Windows

> >> the

> >> > disk tools are not available and that's why the well-known workaround

> >> > is

> >> > needed if the user wants to perform a classic clean install with an

> >> upgrade

> >> > pk.

> >> >

> >> > "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

> >> > news:%23rF4AUqgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> > > Actually, a little bit more information is needed to give you the

> >> correct

> >> > > instructions:

> >> > >

> >> > > 1. Is your Vista Home Premium OEM, Retail Full Version, or an

> >> > > Upgrade?

> >> > >

> >> > > The answer to this determines the path to x64.

> >> > > With VHP OEM, I believe you cannot "upgrade" or "migrate" to x64. You

> >> are

> >> > > required to buy a Full or Upgrade license. Best to talk to the vendor

> >> who

> >> > > sold you the system. This may be causing your error message.

> >> > > With VHP Upgrade, you must first wipe your hard drive and re-install

> >> > > a

> >> > > valid

> >> > > upgrade path OS on your system: XP SP2, W2K, etc. Then, you custom

> >> install

> >> > > x64 using you Ultimate PK.

> >> > > With VHP Full Version, you do as others stated by booting from the

> >> > > dvd

> >> and

> >> > > selecting custom install.

> >> > > Installation instructions:

> >> > > A good review of this article is important:

> >> > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

> >> > >

> >> > > "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> > > news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

> >> > >> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate

> >> > >> 64-bit

> >> > > edition

> >> > >> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at 2.13

> >> > >> ghz

> >> > >> and

> >> > > 4

> >> > >> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not run

> >> > >> on

> >>

> >> > > this

> >> > >> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try

> >> > >> booting

> >> > > from

> >> > >> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium 32-bit

> >> and

> >> > > just

> >> > >> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit version

> >> > >> of

> >> > >> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install 64-bit?

> >> > > Thanks!

> >> > >>

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

>

March 11, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Review the screenshots from here

http://vistaultimate.windowsreinstall.com/installnewhdd/installnewhdd.htm

to see at what stage the screen comes up showing the available volumes. You

will reach it. Even if only one volume is available.

You will only lose your music and docs if you don't save them first and

restore them after. Use the Windows Easy Transfer wizard to save to

intermediate storage and then use WET again to restore them.

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:CB08318B-8409-473B-916B-A2115B86AAB3@microsoft.com...

> Will I lose all of my music and documents? I know I will have to reinstall

> all of my programs though. Also, when I loaded from the CD it went right

> into

> the install. Nothing about partitions came up or anything...

>

> "John Barnes" wrote:

>

>> Since you have the full version, as mentioned earlier, you delete the

>> partition with VHP, create a new partition, format and then continue with

>> the install of VU

>>

>> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:150EFCBB-8767-4DE4-A4ED-E79E61D33A27@microsoft.com...

>> > OK, I bought the full version of Vista Ultimate from Best Buy not from

>> > the

>> > upgrade site. Also, how do I boot the computer from the DVD? Sorry I am

>> > not

>> > very tech saavy! So when I boot from the dvd I will unistall Home

>> > Premium

>> > 32-bit first then install Ultimate 64-bit? I will also lose all of my

>> > applications correct? What about like all of my Office applications? Do

>> > I

>> > need to backup all my music and documents?

>> >

>> > "Mark" wrote:

>> >

>> >>

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>> >>

>> >> (My point about an upgrade PK is that you must revert to XP prior to

>> >> using

>> >> it to install x64 from Vista x86.)

>> >>

>> >> Copied directly from the Microsoft site:

>> >>

>> >> Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on a computer that is

>> >> running a

>> >> 32-bit version of Windows Vista

>> >>

>> >> If you have purchased an Upgrade license together with a Windows Vista

>> >> DVD,

>> >> you must use one of the following methods:

>> >>

>> >> Method 1

>> >> Purchase a full version of the 64-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> >>

>> >> Method 2

>> >> 1. Remove the 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> >> 2. Install Windows XP.

>> >>

>> >> 3. Install the 64-bit version of Windows Vista by using an

>> >> installation

>> >> method that is listed earlier in this article.

>> >>

>> >> If you have purchased a full license together with a Windows Vista

>> >> DVD,

>> >> follow these steps:

>> >>

>> >> 1. Back up all the data and settings by using Windows Easy Transfer.

>> >> Windows

>> >> Easy Transfer is available on the Windows Vista DVD. However, you must

>> >> use

>> >> the version that is on the Windows Vista DVD for your currently

>> >> installed

>> >> 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> >>

>> >> 2. Insert the 64-bit version of Windows Vista into the system DVD

>> >> drive,

>> >> and

>> >> then restart the computer.

>> >>

>> >> 3. Start Windows Vista Setup from the DVD when you are prompted.

>> >> Note You must start Windows Vista Setup by starting the computer from

>> >> the

>> >> Windows Vista 64-bit DVD. The installation package will not run on a

>> >> 32-bit

>> >> operating system.

>> >>

>> >> 4. When you are prompted during Windows Vista Setup, remember to

>> >> select

>> >> Custom as your installation choice.

>> >>

>> >> 5. When the installation is complete, you can restore the data from

>> >> its

>> >> backup location.

>> >>

>> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> >> news:48153015-E1FA-4DF6-8DDF-E69C6D010B46@microsoft.com...

>> >> > With an upgrade product key and an x64 dvd the user still boots with

>> >> > the

>> >> dvd

>> >> > and enters the pk just like he does with a full edition pk. Unlike

>> >> > when

>> >> > booting with the the x86 dvd, the user is NOT instructed to run

>> >> > Setup

>> >> > from

>> >> > the existing Windows. That only happens with the x86 dvd. Instead

>> >> > x64

>> >> > Setup verifies that an eligible copy of Windows is installed and

>> >> > then

>> >> > proceeds exactly as if booting with a full edition pk. From that

>> >> > point

>> >> > on

>> >> > the user has access to the disk tools and can perform a clean

>> >> > install

>> >> > in

>> >> the

>> >> > classic sense.

>> >> >

>> >> > It is only with the x86 dvd that an upgrade pk requires running

>> >> > Setup

>> >> > from

>> >> > an existing Windows. When Setup is run from within an existing

>> >> > Windows

>> >> the

>> >> > disk tools are not available and that's why the well-known

>> >> > workaround

>> >> > is

>> >> > needed if the user wants to perform a classic clean install with an

>> >> upgrade

>> >> > pk.

>> >> >

>> >> > "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

>> >> > news:%23rF4AUqgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> > > Actually, a little bit more information is needed to give you the

>> >> correct

>> >> > > instructions:

>> >> > >

>> >> > > 1. Is your Vista Home Premium OEM, Retail Full Version, or an

>> >> > > Upgrade?

>> >> > >

>> >> > > The answer to this determines the path to x64.

>> >> > > With VHP OEM, I believe you cannot "upgrade" or "migrate" to x64.

>> >> > > You

>> >> are

>> >> > > required to buy a Full or Upgrade license. Best to talk to the

>> >> > > vendor

>> >> who

>> >> > > sold you the system. This may be causing your error message.

>> >> > > With VHP Upgrade, you must first wipe your hard drive and

>> >> > > re-install

>> >> > > a

>> >> > > valid

>> >> > > upgrade path OS on your system: XP SP2, W2K, etc. Then, you custom

>> >> install

>> >> > > x64 using you Ultimate PK.

>> >> > > With VHP Full Version, you do as others stated by booting from the

>> >> > > dvd

>> >> and

>> >> > > selecting custom install.

>> >> > > Installation instructions:

>> >> > > A good review of this article is important:

>> >> > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>> >> > >

>> >> > > "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> > > news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

>> >> > >> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate

>> >> > >> 64-bit

>> >> > > edition

>> >> > >> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at

>> >> > >> 2.13

>> >> > >> ghz

>> >> > >> and

>> >> > > 4

>> >> > >> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not

>> >> > >> run

>> >> > >> on

>> >>

>> >> > > this

>> >> > >> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try

>> >> > >> booting

>> >> > > from

>> >> > >> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium

>> >> > >> 32-bit

>> >> and

>> >> > > just

>> >> > >> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit

>> >> > >> version

>> >> > >> of

>> >> > >> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install

>> >> > >> 64-bit?

>> >> > > Thanks!

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >

>> >> >

>> >>

>>

March 11, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Yes you would lose your files. Your safest bet is to copy anything you want

to save to another partition or to a CD/DVD. Using Windows Easy Transfer

would be one way to transfer them. You could also install into the

partition with VHP on it and it will be rolled into a .old file which will

contain your music files etc on the same partition as VU. The partition

information is on I believe the eighth screen of the install, where you are

asked to choose where you want to install.

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:CB08318B-8409-473B-916B-A2115B86AAB3@microsoft.com...

> Will I lose all of my music and documents? I know I will have to reinstall

> all of my programs though. Also, when I loaded from the CD it went right

> into

> the install. Nothing about partitions came up or anything...

>

> "John Barnes" wrote:

>

>> Since you have the full version, as mentioned earlier, you delete the

>> partition with VHP, create a new partition, format and then continue with

>> the install of VU

>>

>> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:150EFCBB-8767-4DE4-A4ED-E79E61D33A27@microsoft.com...

>> > OK, I bought the full version of Vista Ultimate from Best Buy not from

>> > the

>> > upgrade site. Also, how do I boot the computer from the DVD? Sorry I am

>> > not

>> > very tech saavy! So when I boot from the dvd I will unistall Home

>> > Premium

>> > 32-bit first then install Ultimate 64-bit? I will also lose all of my

>> > applications correct? What about like all of my Office applications? Do

>> > I

>> > need to backup all my music and documents?

>> >

>> > "Mark" wrote:

>> >

>> >>

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>> >>

>> >> (My point about an upgrade PK is that you must revert to XP prior to

>> >> using

>> >> it to install x64 from Vista x86.)

>> >>

>> >> Copied directly from the Microsoft site:

>> >>

>> >> Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on a computer that is

>> >> running a

>> >> 32-bit version of Windows Vista

>> >>

>> >> If you have purchased an Upgrade license together with a Windows Vista

>> >> DVD,

>> >> you must use one of the following methods:

>> >>

>> >> Method 1

>> >> Purchase a full version of the 64-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> >>

>> >> Method 2

>> >> 1. Remove the 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> >> 2. Install Windows XP.

>> >>

>> >> 3. Install the 64-bit version of Windows Vista by using an

>> >> installation

>> >> method that is listed earlier in this article.

>> >>

>> >> If you have purchased a full license together with a Windows Vista

>> >> DVD,

>> >> follow these steps:

>> >>

>> >> 1. Back up all the data and settings by using Windows Easy Transfer.

>> >> Windows

>> >> Easy Transfer is available on the Windows Vista DVD. However, you must

>> >> use

>> >> the version that is on the Windows Vista DVD for your currently

>> >> installed

>> >> 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> >>

>> >> 2. Insert the 64-bit version of Windows Vista into the system DVD

>> >> drive,

>> >> and

>> >> then restart the computer.

>> >>

>> >> 3. Start Windows Vista Setup from the DVD when you are prompted.

>> >> Note You must start Windows Vista Setup by starting the computer from

>> >> the

>> >> Windows Vista 64-bit DVD. The installation package will not run on a

>> >> 32-bit

>> >> operating system.

>> >>

>> >> 4. When you are prompted during Windows Vista Setup, remember to

>> >> select

>> >> Custom as your installation choice.

>> >>

>> >> 5. When the installation is complete, you can restore the data from

>> >> its

>> >> backup location.

>> >>

>> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> >> news:48153015-E1FA-4DF6-8DDF-E69C6D010B46@microsoft.com...

>> >> > With an upgrade product key and an x64 dvd the user still boots with

>> >> > the

>> >> dvd

>> >> > and enters the pk just like he does with a full edition pk. Unlike

>> >> > when

>> >> > booting with the the x86 dvd, the user is NOT instructed to run

>> >> > Setup

>> >> > from

>> >> > the existing Windows. That only happens with the x86 dvd. Instead

>> >> > x64

>> >> > Setup verifies that an eligible copy of Windows is installed and

>> >> > then

>> >> > proceeds exactly as if booting with a full edition pk. From that

>> >> > point

>> >> > on

>> >> > the user has access to the disk tools and can perform a clean

>> >> > install

>> >> > in

>> >> the

>> >> > classic sense.

>> >> >

>> >> > It is only with the x86 dvd that an upgrade pk requires running

>> >> > Setup

>> >> > from

>> >> > an existing Windows. When Setup is run from within an existing

>> >> > Windows

>> >> the

>> >> > disk tools are not available and that's why the well-known

>> >> > workaround

>> >> > is

>> >> > needed if the user wants to perform a classic clean install with an

>> >> upgrade

>> >> > pk.

>> >> >

>> >> > "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

>> >> > news:%23rF4AUqgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> > > Actually, a little bit more information is needed to give you the

>> >> correct

>> >> > > instructions:

>> >> > >

>> >> > > 1. Is your Vista Home Premium OEM, Retail Full Version, or an

>> >> > > Upgrade?

>> >> > >

>> >> > > The answer to this determines the path to x64.

>> >> > > With VHP OEM, I believe you cannot "upgrade" or "migrate" to x64.

>> >> > > You

>> >> are

>> >> > > required to buy a Full or Upgrade license. Best to talk to the

>> >> > > vendor

>> >> who

>> >> > > sold you the system. This may be causing your error message.

>> >> > > With VHP Upgrade, you must first wipe your hard drive and

>> >> > > re-install

>> >> > > a

>> >> > > valid

>> >> > > upgrade path OS on your system: XP SP2, W2K, etc. Then, you custom

>> >> install

>> >> > > x64 using you Ultimate PK.

>> >> > > With VHP Full Version, you do as others stated by booting from the

>> >> > > dvd

>> >> and

>> >> > > selecting custom install.

>> >> > > Installation instructions:

>> >> > > A good review of this article is important:

>> >> > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>> >> > >

>> >> > > "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> > > news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

>> >> > >> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate

>> >> > >> 64-bit

>> >> > > edition

>> >> > >> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at

>> >> > >> 2.13

>> >> > >> ghz

>> >> > >> and

>> >> > > 4

>> >> > >> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not

>> >> > >> run

>> >> > >> on

>> >>

>> >> > > this

>> >> > >> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try

>> >> > >> booting

>> >> > > from

>> >> > >> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium

>> >> > >> 32-bit

>> >> and

>> >> > > just

>> >> > >> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit

>> >> > >> version

>> >> > >> of

>> >> > >> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install

>> >> > >> 64-bit?

>> >> > > Thanks!

>> >> > >>

>> >> > >

>> >> >

>> >>

>>

March 11, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Thanks for everything guys, I think I finally feel confident enough to

install this. Also, do you think I could save my documents to my recovery

drive (D: drive) which has like 9GB of space or does this get reformatted too?

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Yes you would lose your files. Your safest bet is to copy anything you want

> to save to another partition or to a CD/DVD. Using Windows Easy Transfer

> would be one way to transfer them. You could also install into the

> partition with VHP on it and it will be rolled into a .old file which will

> contain your music files etc on the same partition as VU. The partition

> information is on I believe the eighth screen of the install, where you are

> asked to choose where you want to install.

>

> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:CB08318B-8409-473B-916B-A2115B86AAB3@microsoft.com...

> > Will I lose all of my music and documents? I know I will have to reinstall

> > all of my programs though. Also, when I loaded from the CD it went right

> > into

> > the install. Nothing about partitions came up or anything...

> >

> > "John Barnes" wrote:

> >

> >> Since you have the full version, as mentioned earlier, you delete the

> >> partition with VHP, create a new partition, format and then continue with

> >> the install of VU

> >>

> >> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:150EFCBB-8767-4DE4-A4ED-E79E61D33A27@microsoft.com...

> >> > OK, I bought the full version of Vista Ultimate from Best Buy not from

> >> > the

> >> > upgrade site. Also, how do I boot the computer from the DVD? Sorry I am

> >> > not

> >> > very tech saavy! So when I boot from the dvd I will unistall Home

> >> > Premium

> >> > 32-bit first then install Ultimate 64-bit? I will also lose all of my

> >> > applications correct? What about like all of my Office applications? Do

> >> > I

> >> > need to backup all my music and documents?

> >> >

> >> > "Mark" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

> >> >>

> >> >> (My point about an upgrade PK is that you must revert to XP prior to

> >> >> using

> >> >> it to install x64 from Vista x86.)

> >> >>

> >> >> Copied directly from the Microsoft site:

> >> >>

> >> >> Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on a computer that is

> >> >> running a

> >> >> 32-bit version of Windows Vista

> >> >>

> >> >> If you have purchased an Upgrade license together with a Windows Vista

> >> >> DVD,

> >> >> you must use one of the following methods:

> >> >>

> >> >> Method 1

> >> >> Purchase a full version of the 64-bit version of Windows Vista.

> >> >>

> >> >> Method 2

> >> >> 1. Remove the 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

> >> >> 2. Install Windows XP.

> >> >>

> >> >> 3. Install the 64-bit version of Windows Vista by using an

> >> >> installation

> >> >> method that is listed earlier in this article.

> >> >>

> >> >> If you have purchased a full license together with a Windows Vista

> >> >> DVD,

> >> >> follow these steps:

> >> >>

> >> >> 1. Back up all the data and settings by using Windows Easy Transfer.

> >> >> Windows

> >> >> Easy Transfer is available on the Windows Vista DVD. However, you must

> >> >> use

> >> >> the version that is on the Windows Vista DVD for your currently

> >> >> installed

> >> >> 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

> >> >>

> >> >> 2. Insert the 64-bit version of Windows Vista into the system DVD

> >> >> drive,

> >> >> and

> >> >> then restart the computer.

> >> >>

> >> >> 3. Start Windows Vista Setup from the DVD when you are prompted.

> >> >> Note You must start Windows Vista Setup by starting the computer from

> >> >> the

> >> >> Windows Vista 64-bit DVD. The installation package will not run on a

> >> >> 32-bit

> >> >> operating system.

> >> >>

> >> >> 4. When you are prompted during Windows Vista Setup, remember to

> >> >> select

> >> >> Custom as your installation choice.

> >> >>

> >> >> 5. When the installation is complete, you can restore the data from

> >> >> its

> >> >> backup location.

> >> >>

> >> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> >> >> news:48153015-E1FA-4DF6-8DDF-E69C6D010B46@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > With an upgrade product key and an x64 dvd the user still boots with

> >> >> > the

> >> >> dvd

> >> >> > and enters the pk just like he does with a full edition pk. Unlike

> >> >> > when

> >> >> > booting with the the x86 dvd, the user is NOT instructed to run

> >> >> > Setup

> >> >> > from

> >> >> > the existing Windows. That only happens with the x86 dvd. Instead

> >> >> > x64

> >> >> > Setup verifies that an eligible copy of Windows is installed and

> >> >> > then

> >> >> > proceeds exactly as if booting with a full edition pk. From that

> >> >> > point

> >> >> > on

> >> >> > the user has access to the disk tools and can perform a clean

> >> >> > install

> >> >> > in

> >> >> the

> >> >> > classic sense.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > It is only with the x86 dvd that an upgrade pk requires running

> >> >> > Setup

> >> >> > from

> >> >> > an existing Windows. When Setup is run from within an existing

> >> >> > Windows

> >> >> the

> >> >> > disk tools are not available and that's why the well-known

> >> >> > workaround

> >> >> > is

> >> >> > needed if the user wants to perform a classic clean install with an

> >> >> upgrade

> >> >> > pk.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

> >> >> > news:%23rF4AUqgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> >> > > Actually, a little bit more information is needed to give you the

> >> >> correct

> >> >> > > instructions:

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > 1. Is your Vista Home Premium OEM, Retail Full Version, or an

> >> >> > > Upgrade?

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > The answer to this determines the path to x64.

> >> >> > > With VHP OEM, I believe you cannot "upgrade" or "migrate" to x64.

> >> >> > > You

> >> >> are

> >> >> > > required to buy a Full or Upgrade license. Best to talk to the

> >> >> > > vendor

> >> >> who

> >> >> > > sold you the system. This may be causing your error message.

> >> >> > > With VHP Upgrade, you must first wipe your hard drive and

> >> >> > > re-install

> >> >> > > a

> >> >> > > valid

> >> >> > > upgrade path OS on your system: XP SP2, W2K, etc. Then, you custom

> >> >> install

> >> >> > > x64 using you Ultimate PK.

> >> >> > > With VHP Full Version, you do as others stated by booting from the

> >> >> > > dvd

> >> >> and

> >> >> > > selecting custom install.

> >> >> > > Installation instructions:

> >> >> > > A good review of this article is important:

> >> >> > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> >> > > news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

> >> >> > >> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate

> >> >> > >> 64-bit

> >> >> > > edition

> >> >> > >> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at

> >> >> > >> 2.13

> >> >> > >> ghz

> >> >> > >> and

> >> >> > > 4

> >> >> > >> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can not

> >> >> > >> run

> >> >> > >> on

> >> >>

> >> >> > > this

> >> >> > >> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try

> >> >> > >> booting

> >> >> > > from

> >> >> > >> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium

> >> >> > >> 32-bit

> >> >> and

> >> >> > > just

> >> >> > >> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit

> >> >> > >> version

> >> >> > >> of

> >> >> > >> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install

> >> >> > >> 64-bit?

> >> >> > > Thanks!

> >> >> > >>

> >> >> > >

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >>

>

March 11, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

It doesn't get reformatted when you only do the primary partition. However,

it might be read-only.

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:2CD9B98B-AA3D-4418-8143-6AE9341F80F2@microsoft.com...

> Thanks for everything guys, I think I finally feel confident enough to

> install this. Also, do you think I could save my documents to my recovery

> drive (D: drive) which has like 9GB of space or does this get reformatted

> too?

>

> "John Barnes" wrote:

>

>> Yes you would lose your files. Your safest bet is to copy anything you

>> want

>> to save to another partition or to a CD/DVD. Using Windows Easy Transfer

>> would be one way to transfer them. You could also install into the

>> partition with VHP on it and it will be rolled into a .old file which

>> will

>> contain your music files etc on the same partition as VU. The partition

>> information is on I believe the eighth screen of the install, where you

>> are

>> asked to choose where you want to install.

>>

>> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:CB08318B-8409-473B-916B-A2115B86AAB3@microsoft.com...

>> > Will I lose all of my music and documents? I know I will have to

>> > reinstall

>> > all of my programs though. Also, when I loaded from the CD it went

>> > right

>> > into

>> > the install. Nothing about partitions came up or anything...

>> >

>> > "John Barnes" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Since you have the full version, as mentioned earlier, you delete the

>> >> partition with VHP, create a new partition, format and then continue

>> >> with

>> >> the install of VU

>> >>

>> >> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:150EFCBB-8767-4DE4-A4ED-E79E61D33A27@microsoft.com...

>> >> > OK, I bought the full version of Vista Ultimate from Best Buy not

>> >> > from

>> >> > the

>> >> > upgrade site. Also, how do I boot the computer from the DVD? Sorry I

>> >> > am

>> >> > not

>> >> > very tech saavy! So when I boot from the dvd I will unistall Home

>> >> > Premium

>> >> > 32-bit first then install Ultimate 64-bit? I will also lose all of

>> >> > my

>> >> > applications correct? What about like all of my Office applications?

>> >> > Do

>> >> > I

>> >> > need to backup all my music and documents?

>> >> >

>> >> > "Mark" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>> >> >>

>> >> >> (My point about an upgrade PK is that you must revert to XP prior

>> >> >> to

>> >> >> using

>> >> >> it to install x64 from Vista x86.)

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Copied directly from the Microsoft site:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on a computer that is

>> >> >> running a

>> >> >> 32-bit version of Windows Vista

>> >> >>

>> >> >> If you have purchased an Upgrade license together with a Windows

>> >> >> Vista

>> >> >> DVD,

>> >> >> you must use one of the following methods:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Method 1

>> >> >> Purchase a full version of the 64-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Method 2

>> >> >> 1. Remove the 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> >> >> 2. Install Windows XP.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 3. Install the 64-bit version of Windows Vista by using an

>> >> >> installation

>> >> >> method that is listed earlier in this article.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> If you have purchased a full license together with a Windows Vista

>> >> >> DVD,

>> >> >> follow these steps:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 1. Back up all the data and settings by using Windows Easy

>> >> >> Transfer.

>> >> >> Windows

>> >> >> Easy Transfer is available on the Windows Vista DVD. However, you

>> >> >> must

>> >> >> use

>> >> >> the version that is on the Windows Vista DVD for your currently

>> >> >> installed

>> >> >> 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 2. Insert the 64-bit version of Windows Vista into the system DVD

>> >> >> drive,

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> then restart the computer.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 3. Start Windows Vista Setup from the DVD when you are prompted.

>> >> >> Note You must start Windows Vista Setup by starting the computer

>> >> >> from

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> Windows Vista 64-bit DVD. The installation package will not run on

>> >> >> a

>> >> >> 32-bit

>> >> >> operating system.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 4. When you are prompted during Windows Vista Setup, remember to

>> >> >> select

>> >> >> Custom as your installation choice.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 5. When the installation is complete, you can restore the data from

>> >> >> its

>> >> >> backup location.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:48153015-E1FA-4DF6-8DDF-E69C6D010B46@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > With an upgrade product key and an x64 dvd the user still boots

>> >> >> > with

>> >> >> > the

>> >> >> dvd

>> >> >> > and enters the pk just like he does with a full edition pk.

>> >> >> > Unlike

>> >> >> > when

>> >> >> > booting with the the x86 dvd, the user is NOT instructed to run

>> >> >> > Setup

>> >> >> > from

>> >> >> > the existing Windows. That only happens with the x86 dvd.

>> >> >> > Instead

>> >> >> > x64

>> >> >> > Setup verifies that an eligible copy of Windows is installed and

>> >> >> > then

>> >> >> > proceeds exactly as if booting with a full edition pk. From that

>> >> >> > point

>> >> >> > on

>> >> >> > the user has access to the disk tools and can perform a clean

>> >> >> > install

>> >> >> > in

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> > classic sense.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > It is only with the x86 dvd that an upgrade pk requires running

>> >> >> > Setup

>> >> >> > from

>> >> >> > an existing Windows. When Setup is run from within an existing

>> >> >> > Windows

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> > disk tools are not available and that's why the well-known

>> >> >> > workaround

>> >> >> > is

>> >> >> > needed if the user wants to perform a classic clean install with

>> >> >> > an

>> >> >> upgrade

>> >> >> > pk.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> > news:%23rF4AUqgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> > > Actually, a little bit more information is needed to give you

>> >> >> > > the

>> >> >> correct

>> >> >> > > instructions:

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > 1. Is your Vista Home Premium OEM, Retail Full Version, or an

>> >> >> > > Upgrade?

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > The answer to this determines the path to x64.

>> >> >> > > With VHP OEM, I believe you cannot "upgrade" or "migrate" to

>> >> >> > > x64.

>> >> >> > > You

>> >> >> are

>> >> >> > > required to buy a Full or Upgrade license. Best to talk to the

>> >> >> > > vendor

>> >> >> who

>> >> >> > > sold you the system. This may be causing your error message.

>> >> >> > > With VHP Upgrade, you must first wipe your hard drive and

>> >> >> > > re-install

>> >> >> > > a

>> >> >> > > valid

>> >> >> > > upgrade path OS on your system: XP SP2, W2K, etc. Then, you

>> >> >> > > custom

>> >> >> install

>> >> >> > > x64 using you Ultimate PK.

>> >> >> > > With VHP Full Version, you do as others stated by booting from

>> >> >> > > the

>> >> >> > > dvd

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> > > selecting custom install.

>> >> >> > > Installation instructions:

>> >> >> > > A good review of this article is important:

>> >> >> > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> >> >> > > message

>> >> >> > > news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > >> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate

>> >> >> > >> 64-bit

>> >> >> > > edition

>> >> >> > >> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at

>> >> >> > >> 2.13

>> >> >> > >> ghz

>> >> >> > >> and

>> >> >> > > 4

>> >> >> > >> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can

>> >> >> > >> not

>> >> >> > >> run

>> >> >> > >> on

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > > this

>> >> >> > >> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try

>> >> >> > >> booting

>> >> >> > > from

>> >> >> > >> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium

>> >> >> > >> 32-bit

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> > > just

>> >> >> > >> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit

>> >> >> > >> version

>> >> >> > >> of

>> >> >> > >> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install

>> >> >> > >> 64-bit?

>> >> >> > > Thanks!

>> >> >> > >>

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >>

>>

March 11, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

I'm glad things are taking shape for you.

Re saving your documents and user files:

My personal preference in such situations is to save them to external

storage. That could be done by burning them to DVD or copying to an external

hard drive, say, a thumb drive, network drive (if the box is on a network),

or USB drive depending on availability and space needed. In the alternative,

it might be possible to shrink the existing partition and create a new one

upon which to save the files. You can use Windows disk management or

something like Acronis Disk Director.

Tom

MSMVP 1998-2007

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:2CD9B98B-AA3D-4418-8143-6AE9341F80F2@microsoft.com...

> Thanks for everything guys, I think I finally feel confident enough to

> install this. Also, do you think I could save my documents to my recovery

> drive (D: drive) which has like 9GB of space or does this get reformatted

> too?

>

> "John Barnes" wrote:

>

>> Yes you would lose your files. Your safest bet is to copy anything you

>> want

>> to save to another partition or to a CD/DVD. Using Windows Easy Transfer

>> would be one way to transfer them. You could also install into the

>> partition with VHP on it and it will be rolled into a .old file which

>> will

>> contain your music files etc on the same partition as VU. The partition

>> information is on I believe the eighth screen of the install, where you

>> are

>> asked to choose where you want to install.

>>

>> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:CB08318B-8409-473B-916B-A2115B86AAB3@microsoft.com...

>> > Will I lose all of my music and documents? I know I will have to

>> > reinstall

>> > all of my programs though. Also, when I loaded from the CD it went

>> > right

>> > into

>> > the install. Nothing about partitions came up or anything...

>> >

>> > "John Barnes" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Since you have the full version, as mentioned earlier, you delete the

>> >> partition with VHP, create a new partition, format and then continue

>> >> with

>> >> the install of VU

>> >>

>> >> "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:150EFCBB-8767-4DE4-A4ED-E79E61D33A27@microsoft.com...

>> >> > OK, I bought the full version of Vista Ultimate from Best Buy not

>> >> > from

>> >> > the

>> >> > upgrade site. Also, how do I boot the computer from the DVD? Sorry I

>> >> > am

>> >> > not

>> >> > very tech saavy! So when I boot from the dvd I will unistall Home

>> >> > Premium

>> >> > 32-bit first then install Ultimate 64-bit? I will also lose all of

>> >> > my

>> >> > applications correct? What about like all of my Office applications?

>> >> > Do

>> >> > I

>> >> > need to backup all my music and documents?

>> >> >

>> >> > "Mark" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>> >> >>

>> >> >> (My point about an upgrade PK is that you must revert to XP prior

>> >> >> to

>> >> >> using

>> >> >> it to install x64 from Vista x86.)

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Copied directly from the Microsoft site:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Installing a 64-bit version of Windows Vista on a computer that is

>> >> >> running a

>> >> >> 32-bit version of Windows Vista

>> >> >>

>> >> >> If you have purchased an Upgrade license together with a Windows

>> >> >> Vista

>> >> >> DVD,

>> >> >> you must use one of the following methods:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Method 1

>> >> >> Purchase a full version of the 64-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Method 2

>> >> >> 1. Remove the 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> >> >> 2. Install Windows XP.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 3. Install the 64-bit version of Windows Vista by using an

>> >> >> installation

>> >> >> method that is listed earlier in this article.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> If you have purchased a full license together with a Windows Vista

>> >> >> DVD,

>> >> >> follow these steps:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 1. Back up all the data and settings by using Windows Easy

>> >> >> Transfer.

>> >> >> Windows

>> >> >> Easy Transfer is available on the Windows Vista DVD. However, you

>> >> >> must

>> >> >> use

>> >> >> the version that is on the Windows Vista DVD for your currently

>> >> >> installed

>> >> >> 32-bit version of Windows Vista.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 2. Insert the 64-bit version of Windows Vista into the system DVD

>> >> >> drive,

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> then restart the computer.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 3. Start Windows Vista Setup from the DVD when you are prompted.

>> >> >> Note You must start Windows Vista Setup by starting the computer

>> >> >> from

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> Windows Vista 64-bit DVD. The installation package will not run on

>> >> >> a

>> >> >> 32-bit

>> >> >> operating system.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 4. When you are prompted during Windows Vista Setup, remember to

>> >> >> select

>> >> >> Custom as your installation choice.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> 5. When the installation is complete, you can restore the data from

>> >> >> its

>> >> >> backup location.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:48153015-E1FA-4DF6-8DDF-E69C6D010B46@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > With an upgrade product key and an x64 dvd the user still boots

>> >> >> > with

>> >> >> > the

>> >> >> dvd

>> >> >> > and enters the pk just like he does with a full edition pk.

>> >> >> > Unlike

>> >> >> > when

>> >> >> > booting with the the x86 dvd, the user is NOT instructed to run

>> >> >> > Setup

>> >> >> > from

>> >> >> > the existing Windows. That only happens with the x86 dvd.

>> >> >> > Instead

>> >> >> > x64

>> >> >> > Setup verifies that an eligible copy of Windows is installed and

>> >> >> > then

>> >> >> > proceeds exactly as if booting with a full edition pk. From that

>> >> >> > point

>> >> >> > on

>> >> >> > the user has access to the disk tools and can perform a clean

>> >> >> > install

>> >> >> > in

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> > classic sense.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > It is only with the x86 dvd that an upgrade pk requires running

>> >> >> > Setup

>> >> >> > from

>> >> >> > an existing Windows. When Setup is run from within an existing

>> >> >> > Windows

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> > disk tools are not available and that's why the well-known

>> >> >> > workaround

>> >> >> > is

>> >> >> > needed if the user wants to perform a classic clean install with

>> >> >> > an

>> >> >> upgrade

>> >> >> > pk.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "Mark" <jmhonzell@nospam.insightbb.com> wrote in message

>> >> >> > news:%23rF4AUqgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> > > Actually, a little bit more information is needed to give you

>> >> >> > > the

>> >> >> correct

>> >> >> > > instructions:

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > 1. Is your Vista Home Premium OEM, Retail Full Version, or an

>> >> >> > > Upgrade?

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > The answer to this determines the path to x64.

>> >> >> > > With VHP OEM, I believe you cannot "upgrade" or "migrate" to

>> >> >> > > x64.

>> >> >> > > You

>> >> >> are

>> >> >> > > required to buy a Full or Upgrade license. Best to talk to the

>> >> >> > > vendor

>> >> >> who

>> >> >> > > sold you the system. This may be causing your error message.

>> >> >> > > With VHP Upgrade, you must first wipe your hard drive and

>> >> >> > > re-install

>> >> >> > > a

>> >> >> > > valid

>> >> >> > > upgrade path OS on your system: XP SP2, W2K, etc. Then, you

>> >> >> > > custom

>> >> >> install

>> >> >> > > x64 using you Ultimate PK.

>> >> >> > > With VHP Full Version, you do as others stated by booting from

>> >> >> > > the

>> >> >> > > dvd

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> > > selecting custom install.

>> >> >> > > Installation instructions:

>> >> >> > > A good review of this article is important:

>> >> >> > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > "dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> >> >> > > message

>> >> >> > > news:EEEAA4D5-5ECF-40D3-96D2-D13B39DF4C9C@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> > >> Hey guys I am having trouble installing Windows Vista Ultimate

>> >> >> > >> 64-bit

>> >> >> > > edition

>> >> >> > >> on my computer. I have a Dell E520 with a Intel Core 2 CPU at

>> >> >> > >> 2.13

>> >> >> > >> ghz

>> >> >> > >> and

>> >> >> > > 4

>> >> >> > >> gigs of RAM. When I insert the 64-bit CD it says "Setup can

>> >> >> > >> not

>> >> >> > >> run

>> >> >> > >> on

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > > this

>> >> >> > >> version of the Operating System. To install Windows please try

>> >> >> > >> booting

>> >> >> > > from

>> >> >> > >> the install media." I am currently running Vista Home Premium

>> >> >> > >> 32-bit

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> > > just

>> >> >> > >> want to upgrade. Setup works if I try to install the 32-bit

>> >> >> > >> version

>> >> >> > >> of

>> >> >> > >> Ultimate however. Do I not have the specs needed to install

>> >> >> > >> 64-bit?

>> >> >> > > Thanks!

>> >> >> > >>

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >>

>>

March 12, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:52297CEA-57FE-4DB3-B097-02FE5D8DC06A@microsoft.com...

> Please let me know if it is worth it. Thanks!

I would do that only if you have a relatively new PC and can confirm that

the critical pieces (video chip/card, audio chip/card, wireless card if any,

etc.) all have WHQL 64 bit drivers. Vx64 will not permit unsigned drivers.

I just bought a new HP m9100t with specs similar to yours and am happy with

Vx64. I'm under the impression it's more stable but have no proof of that. I

am happy with the performance. I use mostly the standard business apps but

often have multiple apps open concurrently. For that, I think Vx64 will be

worthwhile.

I will say that I was surprised to find an x64 driver for my Linksys

WUSB54GC wireless adapter. It's a bit older and Linksys doesn't list 64-bit

support for it on the Vista page. I plugged my computer's Ethernet port into

a wireless bridge, plugged in the USB wireless adapter, and let Vista look

online for a driver. It found and installed one, and it works fine.

--

Chris Cowles

Gainesville, FL

March 12, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:CB08318B-8409-473B-916B-A2115B86AAB3@microsoft.com...

> Will I lose all of my music and documents?

You will lose everything. Run Windows Easy Transfer before you do anything

and export it all to a DVD or other medium. After that, install x64, then

run WET again to reinstall the data. You might want to install all yours

apps first before restoring your data, as there may be some necessary

associations between them. Other respondents may clarify or correct that

last comment.

--

Chris Cowles

Gainesville, FL

March 12, 2008

Re: Installing Vista Ultimate 64-bit

"dwaldron" <dwaldron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:2CD9B98B-AA3D-4418-8143-6AE9341F80F2@microsoft.com...

> Thanks for everything guys, I think I finally feel confident enough to

> install this. Also, do you think I could save my documents to my recovery

> drive (D: drive) which has like 9GB of space or does this get reformatted

> too?

I recommend not doing anything to the recovery drive. Preserve it.

Have you made your one-time copy of recovery disks? Do that before you run

upgrade. That way if you want to sell or otherwise dispose of the computer,

you can restore it to the original OS and keep the license for the x64

ultimate for yourself.

--

Chris Cowles

Gainesville, FL

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