dueal boot - blue and white screen

March 20, 2008

On ASUS notebook with Windows XP Home attempted to make it dual boot to

install W2K. Before dong any changes I copied original ntldr (245K) and

ntdetect.com(47K).

With Partition Magic created an NTFS primary partition and installed W2K Pro

which went smoothly, and W2K was running OK

XP Home would not start at all because, as I seem to remember, ntldr(211K)

and ntdetect.com(34K) generated by W2K would not load XP, -so I replaced

them with the those of XP Home I copied earlier.

Now after selecting XPHome it produces the screen suggesting several modes

of loading XP Home, but whatever mode I select it just restarts the

computer.

I replaced ntldr and ntdetect.com with ntldr(230K) and ntdetect.com(47K)

from my working desktop. The first - booting into XP gave the same result,

i.e. list of loading optioons and restarting the computer.

But now W2K would not start. After shortly flashing that screen of starting

W2K, it produced a blue_and_white screen of some gobbledegook among which

there are english patterns like

STOP: 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, 0x8907DE88,0x88FB23ó8,0x00000001)

ASPI BIOS

"readme.txt"

http://www.hardware-update.com

<F&>

(I guess the remaining gobbledegook represent Cyrilics as the computer is

localised for Russia)

I placed the screenshot here:

http://www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg

What might be the problem and the remedy?

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

It might depend on what you used PM for. You shouldn't have needed to use it

in order to install a second operating system. You might try creating a boot

disk.

For the floppy to successfully boot Windows XP the disk must contain the

"NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows XP machine, not a

DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written to the floppy), and copy

Windows XP versions of ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the

boot.ini to give it a correct ARC path for the machine you wish to boot.

Below is an example of boot.ini. The default is to start the operating

system located on the first partition of the primary or first drive

(drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.

[boot loader]

timeout=10

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 0,1"

/noexecute=optin /fastdetect

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 0,2"

/noexecute=optin /fastdetect

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 1,1"

/noexecute=optin /fastdetect

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 1,2"

/noexecute=optin /fastdetect

(watch for line wrap)

--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"aa" wrote:

> On ASUS notebook with Windows XP Home attempted to make it dual boot to

> install W2K. Before dong any changes I copied original ntldr (245K) and

> ntdetect.com(47K).

> With Partition Magic created an NTFS primary partition and installed W2K

> Pro

> which went smoothly, and W2K was running OK

> XP Home would not start at all because, as I seem to remember, ntldr(211K)

> and ntdetect.com(34K) generated by W2K would not load XP, -so I replaced

> them with the those of XP Home I copied earlier.

>

> Now after selecting XPHome it produces the screen suggesting several modes

> of loading XP Home, but whatever mode I select it just restarts the

> computer.

>

> I replaced ntldr and ntdetect.com with ntldr(230K) and ntdetect.com(47K)

> from my working desktop. The first - booting into XP gave the same result,

> i.e. list of loading optioons and restarting the computer.

> But now W2K would not start. After shortly flashing that screen of

> starting

> W2K, it produced a blue_and_white screen of some gobbledegook among which

> there are english patterns like

> STOP: 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, 0x8907DE88,0x88FB23ó8,0x00000001)

> ASPI BIOS

> "readme.txt"

> http://www.hardware-update.com

> <F&>

> (I guess the remaining gobbledegook represent Cyrilics as the computer is

> localised for Russia)

>

> I placed the screenshot here:

> http://www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg

>

> What might be the problem and the remedy?

>

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

Thanks, David.

I am aware that XP allows installing another OS withour Partition Magic

(PM), but with PM I made perhaps 15 dual boot computers and never had

problems with it. First thing I came across is the XP would not run w2k

installation disk on the grounds that it is an older version than itself. So

I opted they way I know - using PM. When PM suggested making boot disk I

skipped that for this notebook has no floppy drive

As to editing boot.ini - how do I access it if I cannot boot in?

With W98 booting CD I can boot into DOS prompt, but it does not see NTFS

partition where boot.ini is sitting

The w2k installation disk goes directly to installation and does not seem to

offer booting to DOS prompt

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> ???????/???????? ? ????????

?????????: news:6F850817-1009-450E-808F-69768DB4855C@microsoft.com...

> It might depend on what you used PM for. You shouldn't have needed to use

it

> in order to install a second operating system. You might try creating a

boot

> disk.

>

> For the floppy to successfully boot Windows XP the disk must contain the

> "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows XP machine, not a

> DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written to the floppy), and copy

> Windows XP versions of ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the

> boot.ini to give it a correct ARC path for the machine you wish to boot.

> Below is an example of boot.ini. The default is to start the operating

> system located on the first partition of the primary or first drive

> (drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.

>

> [boot loader]

> timeout=10

> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows

> [operating systems]

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 0,1"

> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 0,2"

> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 1,1"

> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 1,2"

> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

>

> (watch for line wrap)

>

> --

>

> Regards,

>

> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

> Microsoft Certified Professional

> Microsoft MVP [Windows]

> http://www.microsoft.com/protect

>

> "aa" wrote:

> > On ASUS notebook with Windows XP Home attempted to make it dual boot to

> > install W2K. Before dong any changes I copied original ntldr (245K) and

> > ntdetect.com(47K).

> > With Partition Magic created an NTFS primary partition and installed W2K

> > Pro

> > which went smoothly, and W2K was running OK

> > XP Home would not start at all because, as I seem to remember,

ntldr(211K)

> > and ntdetect.com(34K) generated by W2K would not load XP, -so I replaced

> > them with the those of XP Home I copied earlier.

> >

> > Now after selecting XPHome it produces the screen suggesting several

modes

> > of loading XP Home, but whatever mode I select it just restarts the

> > computer.

> >

> > I replaced ntldr and ntdetect.com with ntldr(230K) and ntdetect.com(47K)

> > from my working desktop. The first - booting into XP gave the same

result,

> > i.e. list of loading optioons and restarting the computer.

> > But now W2K would not start. After shortly flashing that screen of

> > starting

> > W2K, it produced a blue_and_white screen of some gobbledegook among

which

> > there are english patterns like

> > STOP: 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, 0x8907DE88,0x88FB23ó8,0x00000001)

> > ASPI BIOS

> > "readme.txt"

> > http://www.hardware-update.com

> > <F&>

> > (I guess the remaining gobbledegook represent Cyrilics as the computer

is

> > localised for Russia)

> >

> > I placed the screenshot here:

> > http://www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg

> >

> > What might be the problem and the remedy?

> >

>

March 21, 2008

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

If you follow David's recommendation of booting the machine

with a boot diskette then you won't have a problem modifying

a:\boot.ini.

It appears from your post that you frequently use multi-booting.

If so then having a Bart PE boot CD (http://www.bootdisk.com)

is IMHO an absolute must. It gives you full access to any NTFS

(and FAT32) partition, regardless of the current state of you

Windows installation.

"aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message

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> Thanks, David.

> I am aware that XP allows installing another OS withour Partition Magic

> (PM), but with PM I made perhaps 15 dual boot computers and never had

> problems with it. First thing I came across is the XP would not run w2k

> installation disk on the grounds that it is an older version than itself.

> So

> I opted they way I know - using PM. When PM suggested making boot disk I

> skipped that for this notebook has no floppy drive

>

> As to editing boot.ini - how do I access it if I cannot boot in?

> With W98 booting CD I can boot into DOS prompt, but it does not see NTFS

> partition where boot.ini is sitting

> The w2k installation disk goes directly to installation and does not seem

> to

> offer booting to DOS prompt

>

> "Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> ???????/???????? ? ????????

> ?????????: news:6F850817-1009-450E-808F-69768DB4855C@microsoft.com...

>> It might depend on what you used PM for. You shouldn't have needed to use

> it

>> in order to install a second operating system. You might try creating a

> boot

>> disk.

>>

>> For the floppy to successfully boot Windows XP the disk must contain the

>> "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows XP machine, not a

>> DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written to the floppy), and copy

>> Windows XP versions of ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the

>> boot.ini to give it a correct ARC path for the machine you wish to boot.

>> Below is an example of boot.ini. The default is to start the operating

>> system located on the first partition of the primary or first drive

>> (drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.

>>

>> [boot loader]

>> timeout=10

>> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows

>> [operating systems]

>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 0,1"

>> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 0,2"

>> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 1,1"

>> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 1,2"

>> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

>>

>> (watch for line wrap)

>>

>> --

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

>> Microsoft Certified Professional

>> Microsoft MVP [Windows]

>> http://www.microsoft.com/protect

>>

>> "aa" wrote:

>> > On ASUS notebook with Windows XP Home attempted to make it dual boot to

>> > install W2K. Before dong any changes I copied original ntldr (245K) and

>> > ntdetect.com(47K).

>> > With Partition Magic created an NTFS primary partition and installed

>> > W2K

>> > Pro

>> > which went smoothly, and W2K was running OK

>> > XP Home would not start at all because, as I seem to remember,

> ntldr(211K)

>> > and ntdetect.com(34K) generated by W2K would not load XP, -so I

>> > replaced

>> > them with the those of XP Home I copied earlier.

>> >

>> > Now after selecting XPHome it produces the screen suggesting several

> modes

>> > of loading XP Home, but whatever mode I select it just restarts the

>> > computer.

>> >

>> > I replaced ntldr and ntdetect.com with ntldr(230K) and

>> > ntdetect.com(47K)

>> > from my working desktop. The first - booting into XP gave the same

> result,

>> > i.e. list of loading optioons and restarting the computer.

>> > But now W2K would not start. After shortly flashing that screen of

>> > starting

>> > W2K, it produced a blue_and_white screen of some gobbledegook among

> which

>> > there are english patterns like

>> > STOP: 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, 0x8907DE88,0x88FB23ó8,0x00000001)

>> > ASPI BIOS

>> > "readme.txt"

>> > http://www.hardware-update.com

>> > <F&>

>> > (I guess the remaining gobbledegook represent Cyrilics as the computer

> is

>> > localised for Russia)

>> >

>> > I placed the screenshot here:

>> > http://www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg

>> >

>> > What might be the problem and the remedy?

>> >

>>

>

March 21, 2008

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

Thanks, Pegasus.

I cannot follow David's recomendation for the notebook in question has no

floppy drive

What is the alternative?

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> If you follow David's recommendation of booting the machine

> with a boot diskette then you won't have a problem modifying

> a:\boot.ini.

>

> It appears from your post that you frequently use multi-booting.

> If so then having a Bart PE boot CD (http://www.bootdisk.com)

> is IMHO an absolute must. It gives you full access to any NTFS

> (and FAT32) partition, regardless of the current state of you

> Windows installation.

>

> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message

> news:elLPJQyiIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Thanks, David.

> > I am aware that XP allows installing another OS withour Partition Magic

> > (PM), but with PM I made perhaps 15 dual boot computers and never had

> > problems with it. First thing I came across is the XP would not run w2k

> > installation disk on the grounds that it is an older version than

itself.

> > So

> > I opted they way I know - using PM. When PM suggested making boot disk I

> > skipped that for this notebook has no floppy drive

> >

> > As to editing boot.ini - how do I access it if I cannot boot in?

> > With W98 booting CD I can boot into DOS prompt, but it does not see NTFS

> > partition where boot.ini is sitting

> > The w2k installation disk goes directly to installation and does not

seem

> > to

> > offer booting to DOS prompt

> >

> > "Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> ???????/???????? ? ????????

> > ?????????: news:6F850817-1009-450E-808F-69768DB4855C@microsoft.com...

> >> It might depend on what you used PM for. You shouldn't have needed to

use

> > it

> >> in order to install a second operating system. You might try creating a

> > boot

> >> disk.

> >>

> >> For the floppy to successfully boot Windows XP the disk must contain

the

> >> "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows XP machine, not a

> >> DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written to the floppy), and copy

> >> Windows XP versions of ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit

the

> >> boot.ini to give it a correct ARC path for the machine you wish to

boot.

> >> Below is an example of boot.ini. The default is to start the operating

> >> system located on the first partition of the primary or first drive

> >> (drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.

> >>

> >> [boot loader]

> >> timeout=10

> >> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows

> >> [operating systems]

> >> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 0,1"

> >> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

> >> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 0,2"

> >> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

> >> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 1,1"

> >> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

> >> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 1,2"

> >> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

> >>

> >> (watch for line wrap)

> >>

> >> --

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >>

> >> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

> >> Microsoft Certified Professional

> >> Microsoft MVP [Windows]

> >> http://www.microsoft.com/protect

> >>

> >> "aa" wrote:

> >> > On ASUS notebook with Windows XP Home attempted to make it dual boot

to

> >> > install W2K. Before dong any changes I copied original ntldr (245K)

and

> >> > ntdetect.com(47K).

> >> > With Partition Magic created an NTFS primary partition and installed

> >> > W2K

> >> > Pro

> >> > which went smoothly, and W2K was running OK

> >> > XP Home would not start at all because, as I seem to remember,

> > ntldr(211K)

> >> > and ntdetect.com(34K) generated by W2K would not load XP, -so I

> >> > replaced

> >> > them with the those of XP Home I copied earlier.

> >> >

> >> > Now after selecting XPHome it produces the screen suggesting several

> > modes

> >> > of loading XP Home, but whatever mode I select it just restarts the

> >> > computer.

> >> >

> >> > I replaced ntldr and ntdetect.com with ntldr(230K) and

> >> > ntdetect.com(47K)

> >> > from my working desktop. The first - booting into XP gave the same

> > result,

> >> > i.e. list of loading optioons and restarting the computer.

> >> > But now W2K would not start. After shortly flashing that screen of

> >> > starting

> >> > W2K, it produced a blue_and_white screen of some gobbledegook among

> > which

> >> > there are english patterns like

> >> > STOP: 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, 0x8907DE88,0x88FB23ó8,0x00000001)

> >> > ASPI BIOS

> >> > "readme.txt"

> >> > http://www.hardware-update.com

> >> > <F&>

> >> > (I guess the remaining gobbledegook represent Cyrilics as the

computer

> > is

> >> > localised for Russia)

> >> >

> >> > I placed the screenshot here:

> >> > http://www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg

> >> >

> >> > What might be the problem and the remedy?

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

I borrowed another w2k installation disk and it allowed me to get to the DOS

prompt

Using Help I got a list of cpmmands available and cannot figure out which

one is for opening and editing boot.ini

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

"aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message

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>I borrowed another w2k installation disk and it allowed me to get to the

>DOS

> prompt

> Using Help I got a list of cpmmands available and cannot figure out which

> one is for opening and editing boot.ini

DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.

It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into

the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has

no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:

- Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.

- After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette

on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from

that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't

get it right the first time.

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

yes, i got into something looking and working like dos prompt, but it must

be something else.

I will try you advice (here in Russia credit cards are not common and I need

to find the way to pay $4 to http://www.bootdisk.com to get access to download)

But your advice is based on presumption that my boot.ini is corrupted - is

that correct? This might explain why XP restarts the computer instead of

loading. But corrupted boot.ini will not explain the blue_and_white screen

on starting w2k (http://www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg) will it?

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> DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.

> It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into

> the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has

> no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:

> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.

> - After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette

> on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from

> that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't

> get it right the first time.

>

March 21, 2008

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

Downloads from http://www.bootdisk.com are free!

David never said that your boot.ini file was corrupted -

he merely showed you how you can use boot.ini to invoke

different operating systems in a multi-boot environment.

The blue/white screen issue may require different measures

but using a multi-choice boot.ini should be your first step.

"aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message

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> yes, i got into something looking and working like dos prompt, but it must

> be something else.

> I will try you advice (here in Russia credit cards are not common and I

> need

> to find the way to pay $4 to http://www.bootdisk.com to get access to download)

> But your advice is based on presumption that my boot.ini is corrupted - is

> that correct? This might explain why XP restarts the computer instead of

> loading. But corrupted boot.ini will not explain the blue_and_white screen

> on starting w2k (http://www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg) will it?

>

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>> DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.

>> It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into

>> the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has

>> no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:

>> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.

>> - After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette

>> on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from

>> that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't

>> get it right the first time.

>>

>

March 21, 2008

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

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> Downloads from http://www.bootdisk.com are free!

>

> David never said that your boot.ini file was corrupted -

> he merely showed you how you can use boot.ini to invoke

> different operating systems in a multi-boot environment.

> The blue/white screen issue may require different measures

> but using a multi-choice boot.ini should be your first step.

>

> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message

> news:%23O%23f%23KziIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > yes, i got into something looking and working like dos prompt, but it

must

> > be something else.

> > I will try you advice (here in Russia credit cards are not common and I

> > need

> > to find the way to pay $4 to http://www.bootdisk.com to get access to download)

> > But your advice is based on presumption that my boot.ini is corrupted -

is

> > that correct? This might explain why XP restarts the computer instead of

> > loading. But corrupted boot.ini will not explain the blue_and_white

screen

> > on starting w2k (http://www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg) will it?

> >

> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ

ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:

> > news:OF6e8BziIHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.

> >> It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into

> >> the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has

> >> no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:

> >> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.

> >> - After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette

> >> on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from

> >> that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't

> >> get it right the first time.

> >>

> >

>

March 21, 2008

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

If an OS used to load OK and then stopped and David advised to look into

boot.ini I take it as something wrong happened to boot.ini - that is what I

call corrupted, though it might be called some other name

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> David never said that your boot.ini file was corrupted -

> he merely showed you how you can use boot.ini to invoke

> different operating systems in a multi-boot environment.

March 21, 2008

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

This page: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm is headed:

"Free Boot Disks".

"aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message

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> http://www.bootdisk.com/popfiles.htm reads:

> As you know it takes a lot of time and effort to maintain a website such

> as

> this. I hope that you really appreciate my efforts and I hope that the

> content of my site has been saving you both time and money.

>

> I've worked hard to find, make available, and create some of the best

> fully

> functional computer utilities so you can both find them and download them

> very easily. As my site grows in popularity tho the demand for certain

> files

> is becoming quite overwhelming. So in response I'd like to request that

> you

> if you need these files that you help me out for my time and expenses for

> just $4 to get instant access to EVERY file below.

>

> After completing the transaction you will IMMEDIATELY be directed to a

> download page that includes all the files below. Also, you will be sent an

> email which also provides the link to the download page.

>

> Click the button below to Checkout via PayPal to get

>

> Immediate access to ALL the above files

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:

> news:umghiPziIHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Downloads from http://www.bootdisk.com are free!

>>

>> David never said that your boot.ini file was corrupted -

>> he merely showed you how you can use boot.ini to invoke

>> different operating systems in a multi-boot environment.

>> The blue/white screen issue may require different measures

>> but using a multi-choice boot.ini should be your first step.

>>

>> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23O%23f%23KziIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> > yes, i got into something looking and working like dos prompt, but it

> must

>> > be something else.

>> > I will try you advice (here in Russia credit cards are not common and I

>> > need

>> > to find the way to pay $4 to http://www.bootdisk.com to get access to

>> > download)

>> > But your advice is based on presumption that my boot.ini is corrupted -

> is

>> > that correct? This might explain why XP restarts the computer instead

>> > of

>> > loading. But corrupted boot.ini will not explain the blue_and_white

> screen

>> > on starting w2k (http://www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg) will it?

>> >

>> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ

> ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:

>> > news:OF6e8BziIHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.

>> >> It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into

>> >> the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has

>> >> no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:

>> >> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.

>> >> - After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette

>> >> on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from

>> >> that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't

>> >> get it right the first time.

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

I've managed to boot into w2k and accessed boot.ini:

[boot loader]

timeout=30

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000

Professional RUS" /fastdetect

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home

Edition RU" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

the first one boots OK, the second will not. What might be wrong with

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home

Edition RU" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect ?

There is the only physical disk and apart from primary partitions for WINNT

and for WINDOWS there is a logical partition as well as a hidden partition

with recovery for XP

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> ???????/???????? ? ????????

?????????: news:6F850817-1009-450E-808F-69768DB4855C@microsoft.com...

> It might depend on what you used PM for. You shouldn't have needed to use

it

> in order to install a second operating system. You might try creating a

boot

> disk.

>

> For the floppy to successfully boot Windows XP the disk must contain the

> "NT" boot sector. Format a diskette (on a Windows XP machine, not a

> DOS/Win9x, so the NT boot sector gets written to the floppy), and copy

> Windows XP versions of ntldr, ntdetect.com, and boot.ini to it. Edit the

> boot.ini to give it a correct ARC path for the machine you wish to boot.

> Below is an example of boot.ini. The default is to start the operating

> system located on the first partition of the primary or first drive

> (drive0). Then drive0 partition 2 and so on.

>

> [boot loader]

> timeout=10

> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows

> [operating systems]

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 0,1"

/noexecute=optin /fastdetect

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 0,2"

> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP 1,1"

> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\Windows="Windows XP 1,2"

> /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

>

> (watch for line wrap)

>

> --

>

> Regards,

>

> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

> Microsoft Certified Professional

> Microsoft MVP [Windows]

> http://www.microsoft.com/protect

>

> "aa" wrote:

> > On ASUS notebook with Windows XP Home attempted to make it dual boot to

> > install W2K. Before dong any changes I copied original ntldr (245K) and

> > ntdetect.com(47K).

> > With Partition Magic created an NTFS primary partition and installed W2K

> > Pro

> > which went smoothly, and W2K was running OK

> > XP Home would not start at all because, as I seem to remember,

ntldr(211K)

> > and ntdetect.com(34K) generated by W2K would not load XP, -so I replaced

> > them with the those of XP Home I copied earlier.

> >

> > Now after selecting XPHome it produces the screen suggesting several

modes

> > of loading XP Home, but whatever mode I select it just restarts the

> > computer.

> >

> > I replaced ntldr and ntdetect.com with ntldr(230K) and ntdetect.com(47K)

> > from my working desktop. The first - booting into XP gave the same

result,

> > i.e. list of loading optioons and restarting the computer.

> > But now W2K would not start. After shortly flashing that screen of

> > starting

> > W2K, it produced a blue_and_white screen of some gobbledegook among

which

> > there are english patterns like

> > STOP: 0x000000A5 (0x00000002, 0x8907DE88,0x88FB23ó8,0x00000001)

> > ASPI BIOS

> > "readme.txt"

> > http://www.hardware-update.com

> > <F&>

> > (I guess the remaining gobbledegook represent Cyrilics as the computer

is

> > localised for Russia)

> >

> > I placed the screenshot here:

> > http://www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg

> >

> > What might be the problem and the remedy?

> >

>

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

"aa" wrote:

> Thanks, David.

> I am aware that XP allows installing another OS withour Partition Magic

> (PM), but with PM I made perhaps 15 dual boot computers and never had

> problems with it. First thing I came across is the XP would not run w2k

> installation disk on the grounds that it is an older version than itself.

*** Don't run from XP Best to just boot the CD-Rom to start setup.

So

> I opted they way I know - using PM. When PM suggested making boot disk I

> skipped that for this notebook has no floppy drive

>

> As to editing boot.ini - how do I access it if I cannot boot in?

*** You'll need to use another computer to create the boot disk.

--

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March 21, 2008

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

Thanks

There are quite a lot of options there. Which one would you recommend for

w2kPro and for XP Home ?

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> This page: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm is headed:

> "Free Boot Disks".

>

> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message

> news:%23rGdwcziIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > http://www.bootdisk.com/popfiles.htm reads:

> > As you know it takes a lot of time and effort to maintain a website such

> > as

> > this. I hope that you really appreciate my efforts and I hope that the

> > content of my site has been saving you both time and money.

> >

> > I've worked hard to find, make available, and create some of the best

> > fully

> > functional computer utilities so you can both find them and download

them

> > very easily. As my site grows in popularity tho the demand for certain

> > files

> > is becoming quite overwhelming. So in response I'd like to request that

> > you

> > if you need these files that you help me out for my time and expenses

for

> > just $4 to get instant access to EVERY file below.

> >

> > After completing the transaction you will IMMEDIATELY be directed to a

> > download page that includes all the files below. Also, you will be sent

an

> > email which also provides the link to the download page.

> >

> > Click the button below to Checkout via PayPal to get

> >

> > Immediate access to ALL the above files

> >

> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ

ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:

> > news:umghiPziIHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> Downloads from http://www.bootdisk.com are free!

> >>

> >> David never said that your boot.ini file was corrupted -

> >> he merely showed you how you can use boot.ini to invoke

> >> different operating systems in a multi-boot environment.

> >> The blue/white screen issue may require different measures

> >> but using a multi-choice boot.ini should be your first step.

> >>

> >> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message

> >> news:%23O%23f%23KziIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> > yes, i got into something looking and working like dos prompt, but it

> > must

> >> > be something else.

> >> > I will try you advice (here in Russia credit cards are not common and

I

> >> > need

> >> > to find the way to pay $4 to http://www.bootdisk.com to get access to

> >> > download)

> >> > But your advice is based on presumption that my boot.ini is

corrupted -

> > is

> >> > that correct? This might explain why XP restarts the computer instead

> >> > of

> >> > loading. But corrupted boot.ini will not explain the blue_and_white

> > screen

> >> > on starting w2k (http://www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg) will it?

> >> >

> >> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ

> > ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:

> >> > news:OF6e8BziIHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> >> DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.

> >> >> It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into

> >> >> the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has

> >> >> no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:

> >> >> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.

> >> >> - After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette

> >> >> on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from

> >> >> that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't

> >> >> get it right the first time.

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

March 21, 2008

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

No, I asked you to simply create another boot disk for testing purpose.

--

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

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"aa" wrote:

> If an OS used to load OK and then stopped and David advised to look into

> boot.ini I take it as something wrong happened to boot.ini - that is what

> I

> call corrupted, though it might be called some other name

March 21, 2008

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

Re: dual boot - blue and white screen

To manufacture a Windows 2000 boot disk, follow David's

recipe. There is no need to download anything.

To manufacture a Bart PE boot CD, download the Bart PE

bood CD file. It is free but it requires the following:

- A WinXP Professional installation CD (but no product key)

- A CD burner

- A few hours of your time

"aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message

news:%23H7LQ6ziIHA.5088@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Thanks

> There are quite a lot of options there. Which one would you recommend for

> w2kPro and for XP Home ?

> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:

> news:OTyR1tziIHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> This page: http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm is headed:

>> "Free Boot Disks".

>>

>> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23rGdwcziIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > http://www.bootdisk.com/popfiles.htm reads:

>> > As you know it takes a lot of time and effort to maintain a website

>> > such

>> > as

>> > this. I hope that you really appreciate my efforts and I hope that the

>> > content of my site has been saving you both time and money.

>> >

>> > I've worked hard to find, make available, and create some of the best

>> > fully

>> > functional computer utilities so you can both find them and download

> them

>> > very easily. As my site grows in popularity tho the demand for certain

>> > files

>> > is becoming quite overwhelming. So in response I'd like to request that

>> > you

>> > if you need these files that you help me out for my time and expenses

> for

>> > just $4 to get instant access to EVERY file below.

>> >

>> > After completing the transaction you will IMMEDIATELY be directed to a

>> > download page that includes all the files below. Also, you will be sent

> an

>> > email which also provides the link to the download page.

>> >

>> > Click the button below to Checkout via PayPal to get

>> >

>> > Immediate access to ALL the above files

>> >

>> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ

> ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:

>> > news:umghiPziIHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> Downloads from http://www.bootdisk.com are free!

>> >>

>> >> David never said that your boot.ini file was corrupted -

>> >> he merely showed you how you can use boot.ini to invoke

>> >> different operating systems in a multi-boot environment.

>> >> The blue/white screen issue may require different measures

>> >> but using a multi-choice boot.ini should be your first step.

>> >>

>> >> "aa" <A@aa.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:%23O%23f%23KziIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> >> > yes, i got into something looking and working like dos prompt, but

>> >> > it

>> > must

>> >> > be something else.

>> >> > I will try you advice (here in Russia credit cards are not common

>> >> > and

> I

>> >> > need

>> >> > to find the way to pay $4 to http://www.bootdisk.com to get access to

>> >> > download)

>> >> > But your advice is based on presumption that my boot.ini is

> corrupted -

>> > is

>> >> > that correct? This might explain why XP restarts the computer

>> >> > instead

>> >> > of

>> >> > loading. But corrupted boot.ini will not explain the blue_and_white

>> > screen

>> >> > on starting w2k (http://www.pifpaf.front.ru/blue_white_screen.jpg) will it?

>> >> >

>> >> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌ/ÓÏÏÂÝÉÌÁ × ÎÏ×ÏÓÔÑÈ

>> > ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÅÅ:

>> >> > news:OF6e8BziIHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> DOS is an operating system introduced some 30 years ago.

>> >> >> It does not exist under Win2000. I suspect that you got into

>> >> >> the Recovery Console. AFAIK, the Recovery Console has

>> >> >> no tools to edit boot.ini. Here are a couple of options:

>> >> >> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD, as explained before.

>> >> >> - After creating (and testing!) a Windows 2000 boot diskette

>> >> >> on a machine with a diskette drive, burn a bootable CD from

>> >> >> that diskette, preferably on a CD/RW CD in case you don't

>> >> >> get it right the first time.

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

Try creating the boot disk then tell us the result.

--

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

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"aa" wrote:

> I've managed to boot into w2k and accessed boot.ini:

> [boot loader]

> timeout=30

> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT

> [operating systems]

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000

> Professional RUS" /fastdetect

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home

> Edition RU" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

>

> the first one boots OK, the second will not. What might be wrong with

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home

> Edition RU" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect ?

>

> There is the only physical disk and apart from primary partitions for

> WINNT

> and for WINDOWS there is a logical partition as well as a hidden

> partition

> with recovery for XP

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

are boot disks for XPHome and XPPro different?

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

No, they're the same. Follow the steps I outlined.

--

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

Microsoft Certified Professional

Microsoft MVP [Windows]

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"aa" wrote:

> are boot disks for XPHome and XPPro different?

>

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

ntldr from XPPro in different in size from that of XPHome - you mean they

are interchangable?

W2K Windows Explorer allows to format a diskette but I cannot find an option

to format bootable diskette - is it there?

If not will you remind please the comand for dos prompt to format bootable

diskette?

"Dave Patrick" <DSPatrick@nospam.gmail.com> ???????/???????? ? ????????

?????????: news:EE532D40-3972-409D-997F-7EFC70693D25@microsoft.com...

> No, they're the same. Follow the steps I outlined.

>

> --

>

> Regards,

>

> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.

> Microsoft Certified Professional

> Microsoft MVP [Windows]

> http://www.microsoft.com/protect

>

> "aa" wrote:

> > are boot disks for XPHome and XPPro different?

> >

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

"aa" wrote:

> ntldr from XPPro in different in size from that of XPHome - you mean they

> are interchangable?

*** Shouldn't matter but use the one from XP Professional

> W2K Windows Explorer allows to format a diskette but I cannot find an

> option

> to format bootable diskette - is it there?

*** No, there's no need to do anything special.

--

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March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

thank you

March 21, 2008

Re: dueal boot - blue and white screen

You're welcome.

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"aa" wrote:

> thank you

>

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