Registry cleaner for Windows Vista or just a con?

[Guest todd198126]

There are a lot of registry cleaners out there,are any of them any good?I

have just had to do a complete re install of Vista and out of idol curisoty i

tried scanning my drive with 'Registry genius' Now after it had finished

scanning it told me i had 1000's of errors!How can this be if i just re

installed the same day?Are these things a complete con or do they actual

work??I'm intrested as i have just had a big error with Vista (not exactly

sure what) and i wonder if it could have been fixed with one of these

programs?Or maybe avoided by using the program every now and again as a

preventary measure??That is what a lot of these programs suggest.To recap i

would like to know if you think there any good/if they work at all and if so

why the 1000's of errors also what i really want to know is if there is a

registry program that Microsoft recommends more than another?Or is there even

a Microsoft Registry fixer program?I appreciate all your answers and

comments,thankyou.

[Guest Carlos]

RE: Registry cleaner for Windows Vista or just a con?

 

Hi,

You learnt it the "hard" way.

None of the regulars in this NG endorses the use of registry cleaners.

They are of no good, period.

MSFT has never updated its old and trusty "regclean" to support the newer

OS's.

Carlos

 

"todd198126" wrote:

> There are a lot of registry cleaners out there,are any of them any good?I

> have just had to do a complete re install of Vista and out of idol curisoty i

> tried scanning my drive with 'Registry genius' Now after it had finished

> scanning it told me i had 1000's of errors!How can this be if i just re

> installed the same day?Are these things a complete con or do they actual

> work??I'm intrested as i have just had a big error with Vista (not exactly

> sure what) and i wonder if it could have been fixed with one of these

> programs?Or maybe avoided by using the program every now and again as a

> preventary measure??That is what a lot of these programs suggest.To recap i

> would like to know if you think there any good/if they work at all and if so

> why the 1000's of errors also what i really want to know is if there is a

> registry program that Microsoft recommends more than another?Or is there even

> a Microsoft Registry fixer program?I appreciate all your answers and

> comments,thankyou.

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: Registry cleaner for Windows Vista or just a con?

 

This is precisely the problem - automated scanners WILL find masses of

potential irregularities, that are probably just regular information that it

don't know what it is. The next problem is IF it finds a real problem, would

you like this automated routine to try and FIX it, or maybe fail and ban

access to your machine?

 

Hmmm? Most of the regulars here I think prefer the hard way and try and

learn a bit of how the Registry is working and about the way it is doing

it's 'stuff'.

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

"todd198126" <todd198126@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AE7E1579-02C1-451F-B038-D11383437DB8@microsoft.com...

> There are a lot of registry cleaners out there,are any of them any good?I

> have just had to do a complete re install of Vista and out of idol

curisoty i

> tried scanning my drive with 'Registry genius' Now after it had finished

> scanning it told me i had 1000's of errors!How can this be if i just re

> installed the same day?Are these things a complete con or do they actual

> work??I'm intrested as i have just had a big error with Vista (not exactly

> sure what) and i wonder if it could have been fixed with one of these

> programs?Or maybe avoided by using the program every now and again as a

> preventary measure??That is what a lot of these programs suggest.To recap

i

> would like to know if you think there any good/if they work at all and if

so

> why the 1000's of errors also what i really want to know is if there is a

> registry program that Microsoft recommends more than another?Or is there

even

> a Microsoft Registry fixer program?I appreciate all your answers and

> comments,thankyou.

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Registry cleaner for Windows Vista or just a con?

 

Except for the one in the online version of Windows Live Onecare Safety Scan

at

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/cleanup.htm

 

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:E85E7BAD-1E49-4A05-8234-C676D95F31CA@microsoft.com...

> Hi,

> You learnt it the "hard" way.

> None of the regulars in this NG endorses the use of registry cleaners.

> They are of no good, period.

> MSFT has never updated its old and trusty "regclean" to support the newer

> OS's.

> Carlos

>

> "todd198126" wrote:

>

>> There are a lot of registry cleaners out there,are any of them any good?I

>> have just had to do a complete re install of Vista and out of idol

>> curisoty i

>> tried scanning my drive with 'Registry genius' Now after it had finished

>> scanning it told me i had 1000's of errors!How can this be if i just re

>> installed the same day?Are these things a complete con or do they actual

>> work??I'm intrested as i have just had a big error with Vista (not

>> exactly

>> sure what) and i wonder if it could have been fixed with one of these

>> programs?Or maybe avoided by using the program every now and again as a

>> preventary measure??That is what a lot of these programs suggest.To recap

>> i

>> would like to know if you think there any good/if they work at all and if

>> so

>> why the 1000's of errors also what i really want to know is if there is a

>> registry program that Microsoft recommends more than another?Or is there

>> even

>> a Microsoft Registry fixer program?I appreciate all your answers and

>> comments,thankyou.

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Registry cleaner for Windows Vista or just a con?

 

I recommend that you only clean registry entries that you know to be causing

you a problem. If you feel compelled to do a general one anyway (old habits

die hard) then at least use the free Microsoft one for Vista at

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/cleanup.htm

 

"todd198126" <todd198126@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AE7E1579-02C1-451F-B038-D11383437DB8@microsoft.com...

> There are a lot of registry cleaners out there,are any of them any good?I

> have just had to do a complete re install of Vista and out of idol

> curisoty i

> tried scanning my drive with 'Registry genius' Now after it had finished

> scanning it told me i had 1000's of errors!How can this be if i just re

> installed the same day?Are these things a complete con or do they actual

> work??I'm intrested as i have just had a big error with Vista (not exactly

> sure what) and i wonder if it could have been fixed with one of these

> programs?Or maybe avoided by using the program every now and again as a

> preventary measure??That is what a lot of these programs suggest.To recap

> i

> would like to know if you think there any good/if they work at all and if

> so

> why the 1000's of errors also what i really want to know is if there is a

> registry program that Microsoft recommends more than another?Or is there

> even

> a Microsoft Registry fixer program?I appreciate all your answers and

> comments,thankyou.

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: Registry cleaner for Windows Vista or just a con?

 

Which I still don't recommend and never will. A "solution" in search of a

problem.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:0A7AF4B8-4079-4F43-A43C-8B94312FE391@microsoft.com...

> Except for the one in the online version of Windows Live Onecare Safety

> Scan at

> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/cleanup.htm

>

> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:E85E7BAD-1E49-4A05-8234-C676D95F31CA@microsoft.com...

>> Hi,

>> You learnt it the "hard" way.

>> None of the regulars in this NG endorses the use of registry cleaners.

>> They are of no good, period.

>> MSFT has never updated its old and trusty "regclean" to support the newer

>> OS's.

>> Carlos

>>

>> "todd198126" wrote:

>>

>>> There are a lot of registry cleaners out there,are any of them any

>>> good?I

>>> have just had to do a complete re install of Vista and out of idol

>>> curisoty i

>>> tried scanning my drive with 'Registry genius' Now after it had finished

>>> scanning it told me i had 1000's of errors!How can this be if i just re

>>> installed the same day?Are these things a complete con or do they actual

>>> work??I'm intrested as i have just had a big error with Vista (not

>>> exactly

>>> sure what) and i wonder if it could have been fixed with one of these

>>> programs?Or maybe avoided by using the program every now and again as a

>>> preventary measure??That is what a lot of these programs suggest.To

>>> recap i

>>> would like to know if you think there any good/if they work at all and

>>> if so

>>> why the 1000's of errors also what i really want to know is if there is

>>> a

>>> registry program that Microsoft recommends more than another?Or is there

>>> even

>>> a Microsoft Registry fixer program?I appreciate all your answers and

>>> comments,thankyou.

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Registry cleaner for Windows Vista or just a con?

 

I don't recommend it either. The WLOC beta testers clamored for a registry

cleaner so MS finally gave in and developed one for the Safety Scanner. I

remember the long, long, long threads in which the team kept asking the

testers why they believed they needed a cleaner. The team went back and

forth with the testers for weeks before finally giving in. I figured "be

careful what you ask for" and never used it. But I didn't read any negative

feedback to speak of so I shut up. I still don't recommend using the

things. They are holdovers from Win95 days and most of that stuff is just

pablum to make money off of lazy users who don't even know about Disk

Cleanup.

 

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:4E394D7E-A8F9-4F25-A822-6F72572874B5@microsoft.com...

> Which I still don't recommend and never will. A "solution" in search of a

> problem.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:0A7AF4B8-4079-4F43-A43C-8B94312FE391@microsoft.com...

>> Except for the one in the online version of Windows Live Onecare Safety

>> Scan at

>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/cleanup.htm

>>

>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:E85E7BAD-1E49-4A05-8234-C676D95F31CA@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi,

>>> You learnt it the "hard" way.

>>> None of the regulars in this NG endorses the use of registry cleaners.

>>> They are of no good, period.

>>> MSFT has never updated its old and trusty "regclean" to support the

>>> newer

>>> OS's.

>>> Carlos

>>>

>>> "todd198126" wrote:

>>>

>>>> There are a lot of registry cleaners out there,are any of them any

>>>> good?I

>>>> have just had to do a complete re install of Vista and out of idol

>>>> curisoty i

>>>> tried scanning my drive with 'Registry genius' Now after it had

>>>> finished

>>>> scanning it told me i had 1000's of errors!How can this be if i just re

>>>> installed the same day?Are these things a complete con or do they

>>>> actual

>>>> work??I'm intrested as i have just had a big error with Vista (not

>>>> exactly

>>>> sure what) and i wonder if it could have been fixed with one of these

>>>> programs?Or maybe avoided by using the program every now and again as a

>>>> preventary measure??That is what a lot of these programs suggest.To

>>>> recap i

>>>> would like to know if you think there any good/if they work at all and

>>>> if so

>>>> why the 1000's of errors also what i really want to know is if there is

>>>> a

>>>> registry program that Microsoft recommends more than another?Or is

>>>> there even

>>>> a Microsoft Registry fixer program?I appreciate all your answers and

>>>> comments,thankyou.

>>

>

[Guest Charlie Russel - MVP]

Re: Registry cleaner for Windows Vista or just a con?

 

Dangerous at best, fatal at worst. And useless at all times. I've NEVER

understood the need.

 

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:ED834523-F095-443E-9A97-16C0CA620E3E@microsoft.com...

>I don't recommend it either. The WLOC beta testers clamored for a registry

>cleaner so MS finally gave in and developed one for the Safety Scanner. I

>remember the long, long, long threads in which the team kept asking the

>testers why they believed they needed a cleaner. The team went back and

>forth with the testers for weeks before finally giving in. I figured "be

>careful what you ask for" and never used it. But I didn't read any

>negative feedback to speak of so I shut up. I still don't recommend using

>the things. They are holdovers from Win95 days and most of that stuff is

>just pablum to make money off of lazy users who don't even know about Disk

>Cleanup.

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:4E394D7E-A8F9-4F25-A822-6F72572874B5@microsoft.com...

>> Which I still don't recommend and never will. A "solution" in search of a

>> problem.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:0A7AF4B8-4079-4F43-A43C-8B94312FE391@microsoft.com...

>>> Except for the one in the online version of Windows Live Onecare Safety

>>> Scan at

>>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/cleanup.htm

>>>

>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:E85E7BAD-1E49-4A05-8234-C676D95F31CA@microsoft.com...

>>>> Hi,

>>>> You learnt it the "hard" way.

>>>> None of the regulars in this NG endorses the use of registry cleaners.

>>>> They are of no good, period.

>>>> MSFT has never updated its old and trusty "regclean" to support the

>>>> newer

>>>> OS's.

>>>> Carlos

>>>>

>>>> "todd198126" wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> There are a lot of registry cleaners out there,are any of them any

>>>>> good?I

>>>>> have just had to do a complete re install of Vista and out of idol

>>>>> curisoty i

>>>>> tried scanning my drive with 'Registry genius' Now after it had

>>>>> finished

>>>>> scanning it told me i had 1000's of errors!How can this be if i just

>>>>> re

>>>>> installed the same day?Are these things a complete con or do they

>>>>> actual

>>>>> work??I'm intrested as i have just had a big error with Vista (not

>>>>> exactly

>>>>> sure what) and i wonder if it could have been fixed with one of these

>>>>> programs?Or maybe avoided by using the program every now and again as

>>>>> a

>>>>> preventary measure??That is what a lot of these programs suggest.To

>>>>> recap i

>>>>> would like to know if you think there any good/if they work at all and

>>>>> if so

>>>>> why the 1000's of errors also what i really want to know is if there

>>>>> is a

>>>>> registry program that Microsoft recommends more than another?Or is

>>>>> there even

>>>>> a Microsoft Registry fixer program?I appreciate all your answers and

>>>>> comments,thankyou.

>>>

>>

>

[Guest Howard Swope]

Re: Registry cleaner for Windows Vista or just a con?

 

I can't speak for any cleaner in particular. However, I can provide some

insight on how they might work. There are various services that the

operating system provides that require a registration or data to be placed

in the registry. For example registering COM components is a big one. There

is a specification for what entries are required. However, the specification

is fairly loose. There are certain registry entries that are needed, some

that are not, and a particular piece of software may only use part of these.

Cleaners will search the registry to see if these things exist and erase

entries that don't meet the specification. Many times an application will

write these entries and not realize they aren't needed, in which case it is

OK to clean them. Uninstallation procedures will neglect to remove old

entries, also OK to clean. However, software may be using this data in a way

that is not understood by the cleaner and erasing an item will cause the

software not to function. In the end the registry is just a global database

that can be accessed by software. The operating system uses the registry to

coordinate a lot of functions. A particular cleaner would have to understand

how every possible piece of software ever written by anyone uses this

database in order to be 100 percent accurate. So your always taking a chance

by using one of these.

 

I just ran the Norton cleaner to see what it came up with. It came up with a

good number. I have not told it to fix any of them. If I really want to fix

some of them, I will need to examine each one individually and will probably

only remove entries from software I know that is no longer present.

 

"todd198126" <todd198126@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AE7E1579-02C1-451F-B038-D11383437DB8@microsoft.com...

> There are a lot of registry cleaners out there,are any of them any good?I

> have just had to do a complete re install of Vista and out of idol

> curisoty i

> tried scanning my drive with 'Registry genius' Now after it had finished

> scanning it told me i had 1000's of errors!How can this be if i just re

> installed the same day?Are these things a complete con or do they actual

> work??I'm intrested as i have just had a big error with Vista (not exactly

> sure what) and i wonder if it could have been fixed with one of these

> programs?Or maybe avoided by using the program every now and again as a

> preventary measure??That is what a lot of these programs suggest.To recap

> i

> would like to know if you think there any good/if they work at all and if

> so

> why the 1000's of errors also what i really want to know is if there is a

> registry program that Microsoft recommends more than another?Or is there

> even

> a Microsoft Registry fixer program?I appreciate all your answers and

> comments,thankyou.

[Guest Tom Lake]

Re: Registry cleaner for Windows Vista or just a con?

 

 

"todd198126" <todd198126@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AE7E1579-02C1-451F-B038-D11383437DB8@microsoft.com...

> There are a lot of registry cleaners out there,are any of them any good?

 

Although most folks disagree with me, I like CleanMyPC. I've uninstalled programs

with the intention of reinstalling or upgrading them (they wouldn't allow an version

change

until the old version was uninstalled) and couldn't until I cleaned the registry.

That tells

me that the registry cleaner actually did clean out old garbage. I have no stake in

CleanMyPC other than being a satisfied customer. Version 4.01 works with Vista 32

and 64 as well.

 

http://www.registry-cleaner.net/

 

Tom Lake