Won't Upgrade!

[Guest Seidell23231]

Hey Everyone,

 

Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate Upgrade

Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP. When

I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to

Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested

that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

 

Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't

make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are

pending.

 

So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean Install,

only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

 

Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

[Guest Theo]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has

been updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack)

then this may be the problem.

 

If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then

try the upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.

 

 

 

Seidell23231 wrote:

> Hey Everyone,

>

> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate Upgrade

> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP. When

> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to

> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested

> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

>

> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't

> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are

> pending.

>

> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean Install,

> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>

> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

[Guest Seidell23231]

RE: Won't Upgrade!

 

WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............

 

So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????

 

Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey

 

 

 

"Seidell23231" wrote:

> Hey Everyone,

>

> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate Upgrade

> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP. When

> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to

> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested

> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

>

> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't

> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are

> pending.

>

> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean Install,

> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>

> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

[Guest Theo]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537

 

There's a How To on removing SP1.

 

Here's an article with additional links:

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list

 

And another one:

http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555

 

 

Seidell23231 wrote:

> WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............

>

> So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????

>

> Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey

>

>

>

> "Seidell23231" wrote:

>

>> Hey Everyone,

>>

>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate Upgrade

>> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP. When

>> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to

>> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested

>> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

>>

>> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't

>> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are

>> pending.

>>

>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean Install,

>> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>>

>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

[Guest Seidell23231]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

Theo, your the man! Thanks ~~ Joey

 

 

 

"Theo" wrote:

> Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537

>

> There's a How To on removing SP1.

>

> Here's an article with additional links:

> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list

>

> And another one:

> http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555

>

>

> Seidell23231 wrote:

> > WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............

> >

> > So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????

> >

> > Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey

> >

> >

> >

> > "Seidell23231" wrote:

> >

> >> Hey Everyone,

> >>

> >> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

> >> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate Upgrade

> >> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP. When

> >> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to

> >> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested

> >> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

> >>

> >> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't

> >> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are

> >> pending.

> >>

> >> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean Install,

> >> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

> >>

> >> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>

[Guest Seidell23231]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

Theo,

 

Neither of your options are valid in my case. The PC came preloaded with HP

SP1 already loaded. So there is not download upgrade to delete, since SP1

was not acquired in that fashion.

 

Now what?????????????????????? ~~~~~~ Joey

 

 

 

"Theo" wrote:

> Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537

>

> There's a How To on removing SP1.

>

> Here's an article with additional links:

> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list

>

> And another one:

> http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555

>

>

> Seidell23231 wrote:

> > WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............

> >

> > So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????

> >

> > Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey

> >

> >

> >

> > "Seidell23231" wrote:

> >

> >> Hey Everyone,

> >>

> >> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

> >> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate Upgrade

> >> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP. When

> >> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to

> >> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested

> >> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

> >>

> >> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't

> >> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are

> >> pending.

> >>

> >> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean Install,

> >> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

> >>

> >> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference between an OS

that has been upgraded to a new service pack level and an OS that already is

at that service pack level. SP1 cannot be uninstalled from an integrated

image.

 

"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been updated to

>SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this may be the problem.

>

> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the upgrade.

> Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.

>

>

>

> Seidell23231 wrote:

>> Hey Everyone,

>>

>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate

>> Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for

>> Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me

>> to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade

>> disabled. It suggested that I use a more up to date version and than

>> retry the Upgrade. Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90%

>> correct. What doesn't make sense is that ALL of the updates have been

>> completed and none are pending.

>>

>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>>

>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

That article only applies to SP1 that is an upgrade to Vista rtm. It does

not work with an integrated Vista SP1.

 

"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:OFHMrEnnIHA.4664@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537

>

> There's a How To on removing SP1.

>

> Here's an article with additional links:

> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list

>

> And another one:

> http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555

>

>

> Seidell23231 wrote:

>> WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............

>>

>> So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????

>>

>> Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey

>>

>>

>>

>> "Seidell23231" wrote:

>>

>>> Hey Everyone,

>>>

>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

>>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate

>>> Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for

>>> Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me

>>> to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade

>>> disabled. It suggested that I use a more up to date version and than

>>> retry the Upgrade.

>>> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What

>>> doesn't make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and

>>> none are pending.

>>>

>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

>>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>>>

>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

You need to obtain a new dvd from MS or the retailer where you purchased the

package. There is no other method since you cannot slipstream Vista like

you could with XP. You can order one dvd from

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx using

your upgrade product key for shipping and handling cost. The dvds available

there are integrated dvds by this time. I would see if the retailer will do

the exchange first, however.

 

"Seidell23231" <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:F769B457-735A-4174-9544-D8DC6F6E7CDC@microsoft.com...

> Theo,

>

> Neither of your options are valid in my case. The PC came preloaded with

> HP

> SP1 already loaded. So there is not download upgrade to delete, since SP1

> was not acquired in that fashion.

>

> Now what?????????????????????? ~~~~~~ Joey

>

>

>

> "Theo" wrote:

>

>> Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537

>>

>> There's a How To on removing SP1.

>>

>> Here's an article with additional links:

>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list

>>

>> And another one:

>> http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555

>>

>>

>> Seidell23231 wrote:

>> > WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............

>> >

>> > So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????

>> >

>> > Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > "Seidell23231" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Hey Everyone,

>> >>

>> >> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which

>> >> comes

>> >> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate

>> >> Upgrade

>> >> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP.

>> >> When

>> >> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade,

>> >> only to

>> >> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It

>> >> suggested

>> >> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

>> >>

>> >> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What

>> >> doesn't

>> >> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are

>> >> pending.

>> >>

>> >> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

>> >> Install,

>> >> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>> >>

>> >> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>>

[Guest Seidell23231]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

Thank You Colin,

 

I have spent 4-5 hours today trying to fix something which could not be

fixed! Than you come in and bingo bango, problem resolved and even included

a link to boot...

 

Again, Thank You! ~~~~ Joey

 

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> You need to obtain a new dvd from MS or the retailer where you purchased the

> package. There is no other method since you cannot slipstream Vista like

> you could with XP. You can order one dvd from

> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx using

> your upgrade product key for shipping and handling cost. The dvds available

> there are integrated dvds by this time. I would see if the retailer will do

> the exchange first, however.

>

> "Seidell23231" <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:F769B457-735A-4174-9544-D8DC6F6E7CDC@microsoft.com...

> > Theo,

> >

> > Neither of your options are valid in my case. The PC came preloaded with

> > HP

> > SP1 already loaded. So there is not download upgrade to delete, since SP1

> > was not acquired in that fashion.

> >

> > Now what?????????????????????? ~~~~~~ Joey

> >

> >

> >

> > "Theo" wrote:

> >

> >> Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537

> >>

> >> There's a How To on removing SP1.

> >>

> >> Here's an article with additional links:

> >> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list

> >>

> >> And another one:

> >> http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555

> >>

> >>

> >> Seidell23231 wrote:

> >> > WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT! OK.............

> >> >

> >> > So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????

> >> >

> >> > Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > "Seidell23231" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Hey Everyone,

> >> >>

> >> >> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which

> >> >> comes

> >> >> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate

> >> >> Upgrade

> >> >> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP.

> >> >> When

> >> >> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade,

> >> >> only to

> >> >> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It

> >> >> suggested

> >> >> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

> >> >>

> >> >> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What

> >> >> doesn't

> >> >> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are

> >> >> pending.

> >> >>

> >> >> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

> >> >> Install,

> >> >> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

> >> >>

> >> >> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

> >>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

You're welcome.

 

"Seidell23231" <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:FA795003-E51B-4BCD-8D6C-1354FD4E0F67@microsoft.com...

> Thank You Colin,

>

> I have spent 4-5 hours today trying to fix something which could not be

> fixed! Than you come in and bingo bango, problem resolved and even

> included

> a link to boot...

>

> Again, Thank You! ~~~~ Joey

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

>

>> You need to obtain a new dvd from MS or the retailer where you purchased

>> the

>> package. There is no other method since you cannot slipstream Vista like

>> you could with XP. You can order one dvd from

>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx using

>> your upgrade product key for shipping and handling cost. The dvds

>> available

>> there are integrated dvds by this time. I would see if the retailer will

>> do

>> the exchange first, however.

>>

>> "Seidell23231" <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:F769B457-735A-4174-9544-D8DC6F6E7CDC@microsoft.com...

>> > Theo,

>> >

>> > Neither of your options are valid in my case. The PC came preloaded

>> > with

>> > HP

>> > SP1 already loaded. So there is not download upgrade to delete, since

>> > SP1

>> > was not acquired in that fashion.

>> >

>> > Now what?????????????????????? ~~~~~~ Joey

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > "Theo" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Go to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948537

>> >>

>> >> There's a How To on removing SP1.

>> >>

>> >> Here's an article with additional links:

>> >> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9071138&intsrc=hm_list

>> >>

>> >> And another one:

>> >> http://hardware.gamershell.com/forum/showthread.php?p=31555

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> Seidell23231 wrote:

>> >> > WOW, that makes total sense! HP is SP1 and UT is NOT!

>> >> > OK.............

>> >> >

>> >> > So, how do I go about removing SP1 (Programs & Features)????

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanks! ~~~~~ Joey

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > "Seidell23231" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> Hey Everyone,

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which

>> >> >> comes

>> >> >> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista

>> >> >> Ultimate

>> >> >> Upgrade

>> >> >> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista

>> >> >> HP.

>> >> >> When

>> >> >> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to

>> >> >> Upgrade,

>> >> >> only to

>> >> >> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It

>> >> >> suggested

>> >> >> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What

>> >> >> doesn't

>> >> >> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none

>> >> >> are

>> >> >> pending.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

>> >> >> Install,

>> >> >> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>> >>

>>

[Guest Theo]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated

he had done all the updates, so I was under the impression

he had gotten to the SP1 level via Win Update. Had I known

it was an integrated installation I would not have suggest

eh try to uninstall SP1.

 

 

Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference between

> an OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level and an OS that

> already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot be uninstalled from

> an integrated image.

>

> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been

>> updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this may

>> be the problem.

>>

>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the

>> upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.

>>

>>

>>

>> Seidell23231 wrote:

>>> Hey Everyone,

>>>

>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which

>>> comes pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista

>>> Ultimate Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates

>>> available for Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it

>>> would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the

>>> name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested that I use a more up

>>> to date version and than retry the Upgrade. Not positive if those

>>> are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't make sense is

>>> that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are pending.

>>>

>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

>>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>>>

>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

He said that Vista SP1 came preinstalled. That can only mean that the

manufacturer installed the integrated version (build 6001). A manufacturer

never installs an rtm image and then applies the upgrade. A mfg just

installs the current image from MS.

 

"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:%23Y4I1IunIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated he had done

> all the updates, so I was under the impression he had gotten to the SP1

> level via Win Update. Had I known it was an integrated installation I

> would not have suggest eh try to uninstall SP1.

>

>

> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference between an

>> OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level and an OS that

>> already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot be uninstalled from an

>> integrated image.

>>

>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been updated

>>> to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this may be the

>>> problem.

>>>

>>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the

>>> upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Seidell23231 wrote:

>>>> Hey Everyone,

>>>>

>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

>>>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate

>>>> Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for

>>>> Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow

>>>> me to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install,

>>>> Upgrade disabled. It suggested that I use a more up to date version

>>>> and than retry the Upgrade. Not positive if those are the exact words,

>>>> but 90% correct. What doesn't make sense is that ALL of the updates

>>>> have been completed and none are pending.

>>>>

>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

>>>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>>>>

>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>>

[Guest Theo]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

Would you be so kind as to point out where he said SP1 was

preloaded? Apparently I am blind in one eye and can't see

out of the other, because I just don't see it!

 

The original post is below.

 

Thanks you.

 

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Won't Upgrade!

Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:01 -0700

From: Seidell23231 <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com>

Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

 

Hey Everyone,

 

Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F,

which comes

pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista

Ultimate Upgrade

Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for

Vista HP. When

I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to

Upgrade, only to

Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade

disabled. It suggested

that I use a more up to date version and than retry the

Upgrade.

 

Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct.

What doesn't

make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed

and none are

pending.

 

So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a

Clean Install,

only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

 

Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

 

 

Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> He said that Vista SP1 came preinstalled. That can only mean that the

> manufacturer installed the integrated version (build 6001). A

> manufacturer never installs an rtm image and then applies the upgrade.

> A mfg just installs the current image from MS.

>

> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:%23Y4I1IunIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated he had

>> done all the updates, so I was under the impression he had gotten to

>> the SP1 level via Win Update. Had I known it was an integrated

>> installation I would not have suggest eh try to uninstall SP1.

>>

>>

>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference

>>> between an OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level and

>>> an OS that already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot be

>>> uninstalled from an integrated image.

>>>

>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been

>>>> updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this

>>>> may be the problem.

>>>>

>>>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the

>>>> upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Seidell23231 wrote:

>>>>> Hey Everyone,

>>>>>

>>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which

>>>>> comes pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista

>>>>> Ultimate Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates

>>>>> available for Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it

>>>>> would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the

>>>>> name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested that I use a more up

>>>>> to date version and than retry the Upgrade. Not positive if those

>>>>> are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't make sense is

>>>>> that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are pending.

>>>>>

>>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

>>>>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>>>>>

>>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>>>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

It couldn't be anything else. That's all that the manufacturers have been

shipping for months now.

 

"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:uKyaKVwnIHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Would you be so kind as to point out where he said SP1 was preloaded?

> Apparently I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other, because I

> just don't see it!

>

> The original post is below.

>

> Thanks you.

>

> -------- Original Message --------

> Subject: Won't Upgrade!

> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:01 -0700

> From: Seidell23231 <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com>

> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

>

> Hey Everyone,

>

> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate

> Upgrade

> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP.

> When

> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only

> to

> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It

> suggested

> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

>

> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't

> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are

> pending.

>

> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

> Install,

> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>

> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>

>

> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>> He said that Vista SP1 came preinstalled. That can only mean that the

>> manufacturer installed the integrated version (build 6001). A

>> manufacturer never installs an rtm image and then applies the upgrade. A

>> mfg just installs the current image from MS.

>>

>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23Y4I1IunIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated he had done

>>> all the updates, so I was under the impression he had gotten to the SP1

>>> level via Win Update. Had I known it was an integrated installation I

>>> would not have suggest eh try to uninstall SP1.

>>>

>>>

>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference between

>>>> an OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level and an OS that

>>>> already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot be uninstalled from

>>>> an integrated image.

>>>>

>>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been

>>>>> updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this may

>>>>> be the problem.

>>>>>

>>>>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the

>>>>> upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Seidell23231 wrote:

>>>>>> Hey Everyone,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which

>>>>>> comes pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista

>>>>>> Ultimate Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates

>>>>>> available for Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it

>>>>>> would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the

>>>>>> name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested that I use a more up

>>>>>> to date version and than retry the Upgrade. Not positive if those

>>>>>> are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't make sense is

>>>>>> that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are pending.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

>>>>>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it

>>>>>> done.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>>>>

>>

[Guest Theo]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

Okay. But he didn't say when he bought the computer and how

am I know to what's on his computer? My crystal ball is

down for maintenance at the moment.

 

Besides, you stated he said it came with SP1 and the post

that I read does not say that. All I can go by is what I

read, nothing else!

 

 

Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> It couldn't be anything else. That's all that the manufacturers have

> been shipping for months now.

>

> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:uKyaKVwnIHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Would you be so kind as to point out where he said SP1 was preloaded?

>> Apparently I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other,

>> because I just don't see it!

>>

>> The original post is below.

>>

>> Thanks you.

>>

>> -------- Original Message --------

>> Subject: Won't Upgrade!

>> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:01 -0700

>> From: Seidell23231 <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

>>

>> Hey Everyone,

>>

>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate

>> Upgrade

>> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP.

>> When

>> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade,

>> only to

>> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It

>> suggested

>> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

>>

>> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't

>> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are

>> pending.

>>

>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

>> Install,

>> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>>

>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>>

>>

>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>> He said that Vista SP1 came preinstalled. That can only mean that

>>> the manufacturer installed the integrated version (build 6001). A

>>> manufacturer never installs an rtm image and then applies the

>>> upgrade. A mfg just installs the current image from MS.

>>>

>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%23Y4I1IunIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated he had

>>>> done all the updates, so I was under the impression he had gotten to

>>>> the SP1 level via Win Update. Had I known it was an integrated

>>>> installation I would not have suggest eh try to uninstall SP1.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>>> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference

>>>>> between an OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level

>>>>> and an OS that already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot

>>>>> be uninstalled from an integrated image.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been

>>>>>> updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this

>>>>>> may be the problem.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the

>>>>>> upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Seidell23231 wrote:

>>>>>>> Hey Everyone,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which

>>>>>>> comes pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista

>>>>>>> Ultimate Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates

>>>>>>> available for Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate,

>>>>>>> it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if

>>>>>>> thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested that I

>>>>>>> use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade. Not

>>>>>>> positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What

>>>>>>> doesn't make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed

>>>>>>> and none are pending.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a

>>>>>>> Clean Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work

>>>>>>> if it done.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>>>>>

>>>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

Nevertheless the only time the upgrade option is unavailable is when the

version on the dvd is older than the one on the hdd. Unlike the repair

install option in XP which requires the versions to agree, with Vista the

only requirement for an upgrade-in-place is that the version on the dvd be

the same or later than the one on the hdd. Hence, from his description it

is clear that he got a bum deal from the retailer (a Vista rtm copy).

Otherwise the upgrade would have been enabled. Had the version on the hdd

been Vista rtm the upgrade-in-place would have worked no matter what the

retail copy was. Elementary, my dear Watson. :P

 

"Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:u9boRV2nIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Okay. But he didn't say when he bought the computer and how am I know to

> what's on his computer? My crystal ball is down for maintenance at the

> moment.

>

> Besides, you stated he said it came with SP1 and the post that I read does

> not say that. All I can go by is what I read, nothing else!

>

>

> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>> It couldn't be anything else. That's all that the manufacturers have

>> been shipping for months now.

>>

>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:uKyaKVwnIHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Would you be so kind as to point out where he said SP1 was preloaded?

>>> Apparently I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other, because

>>> I just don't see it!

>>>

>>> The original post is below.

>>>

>>> Thanks you.

>>>

>>> -------- Original Message --------

>>> Subject: Won't Upgrade!

>>> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:01 -0700

>>> From: Seidell23231 <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com>

>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

>>>

>>> Hey Everyone,

>>>

>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

>>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate

>>> Upgrade

>>> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista HP.

>>> When

>>> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade,

>>> only to

>>> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It

>>> suggested

>>> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

>>>

>>> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't

>>> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are

>>> pending.

>>>

>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

>>> Install,

>>> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>>>

>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>>>

>>>

>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>> He said that Vista SP1 came preinstalled. That can only mean that the

>>>> manufacturer installed the integrated version (build 6001). A

>>>> manufacturer never installs an rtm image and then applies the upgrade.

>>>> A mfg just installs the current image from MS.

>>>>

>>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23Y4I1IunIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated he had

>>>>> done all the updates, so I was under the impression he had gotten to

>>>>> the SP1 level via Win Update. Had I known it was an integrated

>>>>> installation I would not have suggest eh try to uninstall SP1.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>>>> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference

>>>>>> between an OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level and

>>>>>> an OS that already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot be

>>>>>> uninstalled from an integrated image.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been

>>>>>>> updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then this

>>>>>>> may be the problem.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try the

>>>>>>> upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Seidell23231 wrote:

>>>>>>>> Hey Everyone,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which

>>>>>>>> comes pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista

>>>>>>>> Ultimate Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates

>>>>>>>> available for Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it

>>>>>>>> would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to Clean (Not sure if thats the

>>>>>>>> name) install, Upgrade disabled. It suggested that I use a more up

>>>>>>>> to date version and than retry the Upgrade. Not positive if those

>>>>>>>> are the exact words, but 90% correct. What doesn't make sense is

>>>>>>>> that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are pending.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

>>>>>>>> Install, only because I don't know what will or won't work if it

>>>>>>>> done.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>>>>>>

>>>>

>>

[Guest Theo]

Re: Won't Upgrade!

 

It may be elementary when you already know it, but it's not

obvious when you don't know it!

 

 

Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> Nevertheless the only time the upgrade option is unavailable is when the

> version on the dvd is older than the one on the hdd. Unlike the repair

> install option in XP which requires the versions to agree, with Vista

> the only requirement for an upgrade-in-place is that the version on the

> dvd be the same or later than the one on the hdd. Hence, from his

> description it is clear that he got a bum deal from the retailer (a

> Vista rtm copy). Otherwise the upgrade would have been enabled. Had the

> version on the hdd been Vista rtm the upgrade-in-place would have worked

> no matter what the retail copy was. Elementary, my dear Watson. :P

>

> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:u9boRV2nIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Okay. But he didn't say when he bought the computer and how am I know

>> to what's on his computer? My crystal ball is down for maintenance at

>> the moment.

>>

>> Besides, you stated he said it came with SP1 and the post that I read

>> does not say that. All I can go by is what I read, nothing else!

>>

>>

>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>> It couldn't be anything else. That's all that the manufacturers have

>>> been shipping for months now.

>>>

>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:uKyaKVwnIHA.5944@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Would you be so kind as to point out where he said SP1 was

>>>> preloaded? Apparently I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the

>>>> other, because I just don't see it!

>>>>

>>>> The original post is below.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks you.

>>>>

>>>> -------- Original Message --------

>>>> Subject: Won't Upgrade!

>>>> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:20:01 -0700

>>>> From: Seidell23231 <Seidell23231@discussions.microsoft.com>

>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

>>>>

>>>> Hey Everyone,

>>>>

>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F, which comes

>>>> pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased the Vista Ultimate

>>>> Upgrade

>>>> Retail Version.. I have completed ALL updates available for Vista

>>>> HP. When

>>>> I tried to Upgrade HP to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade,

>>>> only to

>>>> Clean (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It

>>>> suggested

>>>> that I use a more up to date version and than retry the Upgrade.

>>>>

>>>> Not positive if those are the exact words, but 90% correct. What

>>>> doesn't

>>>> make sense is that ALL of the updates have been completed and none are

>>>> pending.

>>>>

>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a Clean

>>>> Install,

>>>> only because I don't know what will or won't work if it done.

>>>>

>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>>> He said that Vista SP1 came preinstalled. That can only mean that

>>>>> the manufacturer installed the integrated version (build 6001). A

>>>>> manufacturer never installs an rtm image and then applies the

>>>>> upgrade. A mfg just installs the current image from MS.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%23Y4I1IunIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> He didn't say it was an integrated installation. He stated he had

>>>>>> done all the updates, so I was under the impression he had gotten

>>>>>> to the SP1 level via Win Update. Had I known it was an integrated

>>>>>> installation I would not have suggest eh try to uninstall SP1.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>>>>> He cannot remove an integrated SP1. There is a big difference

>>>>>>> between an OS that has been upgraded to a new service pack level

>>>>>>> and an OS that already is at that service pack level. SP1 cannot

>>>>>>> be uninstalled from an integrated image.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Theo" <theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:OKOTa8lnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> I would wonder about SP1. If you current installation has been

>>>>>>>> updated to SP1 and the DVD is the RTM (no Service Pack) then

>>>>>>>> this may be the problem.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> If you have SP1, you should be able to remove it and then try

>>>>>>>> the upgrade. Or, you would need a DVD with SP1.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Seidell23231 wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Hey Everyone,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Need some Assistance! I have just purchased the HP m9250F,

>>>>>>>>> which comes pre-loaded with Vist HP 64-Bit. I have purchased

>>>>>>>>> the Vista Ultimate Upgrade Retail Version.. I have completed

>>>>>>>>> ALL updates available for Vista HP. When I tried to Upgrade HP

>>>>>>>>> to Ultimate, it would NOT allow me to Upgrade, only to Clean

>>>>>>>>> (Not sure if thats the name) install, Upgrade disabled. It

>>>>>>>>> suggested that I use a more up to date version and than retry

>>>>>>>>> the Upgrade. Not positive if those are the exact words, but

>>>>>>>>> 90% correct. What doesn't make sense is that ALL of the

>>>>>>>>> updates have been completed and none are pending.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> So, whats up and how do I fix it? Really don;t want to do a

>>>>>>>>> Clean Install, only because I don't know what will or won't

>>>>>>>>> work if it done.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Awaiting HELP! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joey

>>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>

>