Disk Imaging for 64 bit Vista

April 19, 2008

Hey gang,

Now that I have some important apps and data in my Vista Ultimate 64 bit

install, I think the time has come for me to start imaging it. I am dual

booting with XP Pro 32 bit, but now find myself

rarely going into XP.

I used Powerquest's Drive Image, for my XP install on a 80 gb external usb

hard drive, I have just purchased and received a new 500 gb WD external usb

hard drive.

I know Drive Image was gobbled up by Norton, and is now their Ghost program,

but I am not a big fan of Symantec products.

I am thinking of going with Acronis True Image 11, seems to be a popular

imaging program that a lot of folks like. It states it supports Vista, as

well as XP 32 and 64 bit, so I assume it will work fine with Vista 64 bit.

Just curious what others are using and their thoughts?

Also, perhaps a stupid question. As mentioned, I have XP Pro 32 bit along

with Vista Ultimate 64 bit installed, on separate hard drives/partitions.

Let's say I image all partitions, with True Image, and something happens and

I restore all partitions, including the XP partitions, from within Vista. It

would restore everything as is , including the dual boot setup right?

Thanks,

--

Don

April 19, 2008

Re: Disk Imaging for 64 bit Vista

I use Acronis 11.

If you are dual booting XP and Vista, have you taken the steps in

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185

to protect your Vista restore points, previous versions, and backup files

from being destroyed everytime you boot XP?

"Don" <burnettedclothes@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:A7518B55-1CAF-4E8E-B0FA-272EF518E125@microsoft.com...

> Hey gang,

>

> Now that I have some important apps and data in my Vista Ultimate 64 bit

> install, I think the time has come for me to start imaging it. I am dual

> booting with XP Pro 32 bit, but now find myself

> rarely going into XP.

>

> I used Powerquest's Drive Image, for my XP install on a 80 gb external usb

> hard drive, I have just purchased and received a new 500 gb WD external

> usb hard drive.

> I know Drive Image was gobbled up by Norton, and is now their Ghost

> program, but I am not a big fan of Symantec products.

>

> I am thinking of going with Acronis True Image 11, seems to be a popular

> imaging program that a lot of folks like. It states it supports Vista, as

> well as XP 32 and 64 bit, so I assume it will work fine with Vista 64 bit.

>

> Just curious what others are using and their thoughts?

>

> Also, perhaps a stupid question. As mentioned, I have XP Pro 32 bit along

> with Vista Ultimate 64 bit installed, on separate hard drives/partitions.

> Let's say I image all partitions, with True Image, and something happens

> and I restore all partitions, including the XP partitions, from within

> Vista. It would restore everything as is , including the dual boot setup

> right?

>

> Thanks,

>

> --

> Don

>

April 19, 2008

RE: Disk Imaging for 64 bit Vista

Acronis 11 Home down here too.

When backing up a partition located OS it also backups the boot "thingies"

so your boot menu should be preserved (been there, done that).

Carlos

"Don" wrote:

> Hey gang,

>

> Now that I have some important apps and data in my Vista Ultimate 64 bit

> install, I think the time has come for me to start imaging it. I am dual

> booting with XP Pro 32 bit, but now find myself

> rarely going into XP.

>

> I used Powerquest's Drive Image, for my XP install on a 80 gb external usb

> hard drive, I have just purchased and received a new 500 gb WD external usb

> hard drive.

> I know Drive Image was gobbled up by Norton, and is now their Ghost program,

> but I am not a big fan of Symantec products.

>

> I am thinking of going with Acronis True Image 11, seems to be a popular

> imaging program that a lot of folks like. It states it supports Vista, as

> well as XP 32 and 64 bit, so I assume it will work fine with Vista 64 bit.

>

> Just curious what others are using and their thoughts?

>

> Also, perhaps a stupid question. As mentioned, I have XP Pro 32 bit along

> with Vista Ultimate 64 bit installed, on separate hard drives/partitions.

> Let's say I image all partitions, with True Image, and something happens and

> I restore all partitions, including the XP partitions, from within Vista. It

> would restore everything as is , including the dual boot setup right?

>

> Thanks,

>

> --

> Don

>

April 19, 2008

Re: Disk Imaging for 64 bit Vista

Yes, I have taken those steps and it works well.

Thanks,

--

Don

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:45911F09-8F7C-408D-9C18-9DEC8081A841@microsoft.com...

> I use Acronis 11.

>

> If you are dual booting XP and Vista, have you taken the steps in

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185

> to protect your Vista restore points, previous versions, and backup files

> from being destroyed everytime you boot XP?

>

> "Don" <burnettedclothes@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:A7518B55-1CAF-4E8E-B0FA-272EF518E125@microsoft.com...

>> Hey gang,

>>

>> Now that I have some important apps and data in my Vista Ultimate 64 bit

>> install, I think the time has come for me to start imaging it. I am dual

>> booting with XP Pro 32 bit, but now find myself

>> rarely going into XP.

>>

>> I used Powerquest's Drive Image, for my XP install on a 80 gb external

>> usb hard drive, I have just purchased and received a new 500 gb WD

>> external usb hard drive.

>> I know Drive Image was gobbled up by Norton, and is now their Ghost

>> program, but I am not a big fan of Symantec products.

>>

>> I am thinking of going with Acronis True Image 11, seems to be a popular

>> imaging program that a lot of folks like. It states it supports Vista, as

>> well as XP 32 and 64 bit, so I assume it will work fine with Vista 64

>> bit.

>>

>> Just curious what others are using and their thoughts?

>>

>> Also, perhaps a stupid question. As mentioned, I have XP Pro 32 bit

>> along with Vista Ultimate 64 bit installed, on separate hard

>> drives/partitions. Let's say I image all partitions, with True Image, and

>> something happens and I restore all partitions, including the XP

>> partitions, from within Vista. It would restore everything as is ,

>> including the dual boot setup right?

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

>

April 19, 2008

Re: Disk Imaging for 64 bit Vista

Great, I will go with Acronis 11 as planned, thanks for the info!

--

Don

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:123845D6-D75C-40DF-8791-BBC12F1EFC8F@microsoft.com...

> Acronis 11 Home down here too.

> When backing up a partition located OS it also backups the boot "thingies"

> so your boot menu should be preserved (been there, done that).

> Carlos

>

> "Don" wrote:

>

>> Hey gang,

>>

>> Now that I have some important apps and data in my Vista Ultimate 64 bit

>> install, I think the time has come for me to start imaging it. I am dual

>> booting with XP Pro 32 bit, but now find myself

>> rarely going into XP.

>>

>> I used Powerquest's Drive Image, for my XP install on a 80 gb external

>> usb

>> hard drive, I have just purchased and received a new 500 gb WD external

>> usb

>> hard drive.

>> I know Drive Image was gobbled up by Norton, and is now their Ghost

>> program,

>> but I am not a big fan of Symantec products.

>>

>> I am thinking of going with Acronis True Image 11, seems to be a popular

>> imaging program that a lot of folks like. It states it supports Vista, as

>> well as XP 32 and 64 bit, so I assume it will work fine with Vista 64

>> bit.

>>

>> Just curious what others are using and their thoughts?

>>

>> Also, perhaps a stupid question. As mentioned, I have XP Pro 32 bit

>> along

>> with Vista Ultimate 64 bit installed, on separate hard drives/partitions.

>> Let's say I image all partitions, with True Image, and something happens

>> and

>> I restore all partitions, including the XP partitions, from within Vista.

>> It

>> would restore everything as is , including the dual boot setup right?

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

April 19, 2008

Re: Disk Imaging for 64 bit Vista

I use Windows Vista Ultimate to do an drive image.

"Don" <burnettedclothes@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:A7518B55-1CAF-4E8E-B0FA-272EF518E125@microsoft.com...

> Hey gang,

>

> Now that I have some important apps and data in my Vista Ultimate 64 bit

> install, I think the time has come for me to start imaging it. I am dual

> booting with XP Pro 32 bit, but now find myself

> rarely going into XP.

>

> I used Powerquest's Drive Image, for my XP install on a 80 gb external usb

> hard drive, I have just purchased and received a new 500 gb WD external

> usb hard drive.

> I know Drive Image was gobbled up by Norton, and is now their Ghost

> program, but I am not a big fan of Symantec products.

>

> I am thinking of going with Acronis True Image 11, seems to be a popular

> imaging program that a lot of folks like. It states it supports Vista, as

> well as XP 32 and 64 bit, so I assume it will work fine with Vista 64 bit.

>

> Just curious what others are using and their thoughts?

>

> Also, perhaps a stupid question. As mentioned, I have XP Pro 32 bit along

> with Vista Ultimate 64 bit installed, on separate hard drives/partitions.

> Let's say I image all partitions, with True Image, and something happens

> and I restore all partitions, including the XP partitions, from within

> Vista. It would restore everything as is , including the dual boot setup

> right?

>

> Thanks,

>

> --

> Don

>

April 20, 2008

Re: Disk Imaging for 64 bit Vista

Acronis allows individual file/folder restores from the backup, Vista

Ultimate is all or nothing.

"Gary Mount" <gary_mount@telus.net> wrote in message

news:O4i3cOgoIHA.4104@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>I use Windows Vista Ultimate to do an drive image.

>

> "Don" <burnettedclothes@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:A7518B55-1CAF-4E8E-B0FA-272EF518E125@microsoft.com...

>> Hey gang,

>>

>> Now that I have some important apps and data in my Vista Ultimate 64 bit

>> install, I think the time has come for me to start imaging it. I am dual

>> booting with XP Pro 32 bit, but now find myself

>> rarely going into XP.

>>

>> I used Powerquest's Drive Image, for my XP install on a 80 gb external

>> usb hard drive, I have just purchased and received a new 500 gb WD

>> external usb hard drive.

>> I know Drive Image was gobbled up by Norton, and is now their Ghost

>> program, but I am not a big fan of Symantec products.

>>

>> I am thinking of going with Acronis True Image 11, seems to be a popular

>> imaging program that a lot of folks like. It states it supports Vista, as

>> well as XP 32 and 64 bit, so I assume it will work fine with Vista 64

>> bit.

>>

>> Just curious what others are using and their thoughts?

>>

>> Also, perhaps a stupid question. As mentioned, I have XP Pro 32 bit

>> along with Vista Ultimate 64 bit installed, on separate hard

>> drives/partitions. Let's say I image all partitions, with True Image, and

>> something happens and I restore all partitions, including the XP

>> partitions, from within Vista. It would restore everything as is ,

>> including the dual boot setup right?

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> --

>> Don

>>

April 21, 2008

Driver or hard drive problem

Driver or hard drive problem

No luck in hardware so will try here

A couple of days ago I took a SATA hard drive from another computer and

installed it on this computer. I hot plugged it in and everything went

well. Assigned G & L and showed up in Computer and was viewable in

explorer normally.

I decided I wanted to keep my hard drives sequentially lettered, so I

changed L to the next available letter, took H-K and moved them down 1

letter and changed the temp letter to H (all in Disk Management). Still

everything showed up okay in Computer, Disk Management and Device Manager.

Now for the problem.

Next reboot the computer said it had to install new drivers. I let each of

the two iterations find the appropriate driver, after which it had to

reboot. After the reboot the drive failed to show up in Computer or Disk

Management, it showed up as other devices in Device Manager. The next

reboot asked for drivers again, but this time both iterations failed to find

drivers. The solution offered was to download KB940199 which I did and it

would not install. I checked to see installed updates and see I installed

it on 1/1/2008. Next reboot asked for the drivers

again and this time I

clicked not to offer the New Hardware Wizard again for this device for both

iterations (still just one drive). Next reboot failed on hardware failure

0x0000007b. I booted with last known good, successfully, but now asks for

drivers again.

Short story, now I either have to select ask again and go thru this each

time the machine boots since every time I select Don't Ask the hardware

crash occurs.

It makes no difference whether the drive is connected or not. With it

connected I get the drive shown in Other Devices with the driver not

installed. If I change to another SATA HD, It still lists the original hard

drive number, not the new one.

System Restore ceased working and will post that problem separately.

April 21, 2008

Re: Driver or hard drive problem

Re: Driver or hard drive problem

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:05:35 -0700, "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net>

wrote:

>Next reboot the computer said it had to install new drivers. I let each of

>the two iterations find the appropriate driver, after which it had to

>reboot. After the reboot the drive failed to show up in Computer or Disk

>Management, it showed up as other devices in Device Manager. The next

>reboot asked for drivers again, but this time both iterations failed to find

>drivers.

I had a similar issue when first installing Vista a year ago. Vista

would have one of it's infamous hissy fits and keep adding "new"

devices it claimed to have found ending up with it claiming I had

about a dozen and a half IDE channels which of course is nuts. As soon

as I tried to remove these bogus channels through Device Manager Vista

would put them right back next time I booted. Just as soon as I

rebooted Vista would pop up the new hardware found window then shortly

after say the driver failed or some wasn't found garbage. There was

nothing wrong with the hardware and my drives don't add or want

separate drivers other than what Vista installs automatically. All

Vista stupidity as usual.

Judging by the drive letters you mentioned you have lots of drives,

some external like I do.

How did I resolve it?

Slowly. I yanked ALL my hard drives,(actually just unplugged their

power and data cables) except for my root drive which contains the

partition Vista is in. Then I rebooted. As expected Vista was happy,

it correctly saw ONE physical drive with two partitions, C, for Vista

and E for some data files. D is for my DVD writer if anyone cares.

I next added back all my drives one at a time and rebooted after

adding each. Vista remained happy and saw the drives correctly as I

added them and not once did it pop up any "new driver found" window.

I finally got back to my normal C, E, F, G, H configuration and now

Vista doesn't nag when I add/remove externals W, Z, Y and Z.

Maybe the slow and steady approach will work for you. Good luck.

Interesting sidebar.

I have a motherboard that has 8 SATA channels and one IDE channel. All

but my root drive are SATA drives. HOW I used the SATA channels, which

channel and which controller they were plugged into, there's two on

this MB, had a profound effect on if or not the system would boot.

Some if used ahead of others would end up with the BIOS saying it

is on the IDE channel was sometimes bypassed with BIOS looking on one

of the SATA channels to boot from and since no OS is there saying it

couldn't find a OS. Of course the BIOS is set to boot from the IDE

channel, but for some odd reason it didn't always look there

apparently. Computers can drive you nuts sometimes. ;-)

April 21, 2008

Re: Disk Imaging for 64 bit Vista

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:41:27 -0700, John Barnes wrote:

> Acronis allows individual file/folder restores from the backup, Vista

> Ultimate is all or nothing.

Installing Acronis True Image 11 for current user only failed last

time I tried. Vista Complete PC backup .vhd can be mounted by

installing VHDMount from Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1, create a .reg

file, then [un]mount ([un]plug) from Explorer's context menu.

<http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2007/06/20/double-clicking-on-a-vhd-to-mount-it-take-2.aspx>

--

Rom

April 21, 2008

Re: Disk Imaging for 64 bit Vista

"Rom" <-@-.invalid> wrote in message

news:w7btx9bcu422$.dd2f4bntph93$.dlg@40tude.net...

> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:41:27 -0700, John Barnes wrote:

>

>> Acronis allows individual file/folder restores from the backup, Vista

>> Ultimate is all or nothing.

>

> Installing Acronis True Image 11 for current user only failed last

> time I tried. Vista Complete PC backup .vhd can be mounted by

> installing VHDMount from Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1, create a .reg

> file, then [un]mount ([un]plug) from Explorer's context menu.

> <http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2007/06/20/double-clicking-on-a-vhd-to-mount-it-take-2.aspx>

>

> --

> Rom

Interesting, I purchased, downloaded, and installed on Saturday.

The first time, I tried installing, I just double clicked the executable,

and installed for current user only. It got about two thirds through the

install, then backed out and said installation failed.

I then tried it again, by right clicking the executable, choosing " run as

administrator ", and selecting for all users this time - and the install

went fine.

I have already imaged my complete system , worked very well.

--

Don

April 21, 2008

Re: Disk Imaging for 64 bit Vista

I personally prefer TeraByte products and you can download trials from

their site. I'm personally not using True Image and am not an Acronis fan.

My last contact with Acronis returned the following reply over a month ago.

Workstation works on Vista64 except that the ability to make the CD to

install wouldn't work except to download the .iso if I recall. Been a

while.

Hi Frank,

I'm waiting on confirmation from one of our engineers that the latest

Workstation build has been tested on Vista x64 (I know it has been

successfully tested on x64 XP and Vista x32). Hopefully I'll have an answer

today.

Best regards,

Shannon McAvoy

Acronis, Inc.

(781) 222-0317

"Don" <burnettedclothes@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Rom" <-@-.invalid> wrote in message

> news:w7btx9bcu422$.dd2f4bntph93$.dlg@40tude.net...

>> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:41:27 -0700, John Barnes wrote:

>>

>>> Acronis allows individual file/folder restores from the backup, Vista

>>> Ultimate is all or nothing.

>>

>> Installing Acronis True Image 11 for current user only failed last

>> time I tried. Vista Complete PC backup .vhd can be mounted by

>> installing VHDMount from Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1, create a .reg

>> file, then [un]mount ([un]plug) from Explorer's context menu.

>> <http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2007/06/20/double-clicking-on-a-vhd-to-mount-it-take-2.aspx>

>>

>> --

>> Rom

>

> Interesting, I purchased, downloaded, and installed on Saturday.

> The first time, I tried installing, I just double clicked the executable,

> and installed for current user only. It got about two thirds through the

> install, then backed out and said installation failed.

>

> I then tried it again, by right clicking the executable, choosing " run as

> administrator ", and selecting for all users this time - and the install

> went fine.

>

> I have already imaged my complete system , worked very well.

>

> --

> Don

>

April 22, 2008

Re: Disk Imaging for 64 bit Vista

John,

I am using the latest Acronis 11 Home in Vista x64 with no problems.

I could even create the boot CD effortlessly.

Carlos

"John Barnes" wrote:

> I personally prefer TeraByte products and you can download trials from

> their site. I'm personally not using True Image and am not an Acronis fan.

> My last contact with Acronis returned the following reply over a month ago.

> Workstation works on Vista64 except that the ability to make the CD to

> install wouldn't work except to download the .iso if I recall. Been a

> while.

>

> Hi Frank,

>

> I'm waiting on confirmation from one of our engineers that the latest

> Workstation build has been tested on Vista x64 (I know it has been

> successfully tested on x64 XP and Vista x32). Hopefully I'll have an answer

> today.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Shannon McAvoy

> Acronis, Inc.

> (781) 222-0317

>

> "Don" <burnettedclothes@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:DB168089-4A18-4D95-BF0B-B673C4BA0B8F@microsoft.com...

> >

> > "Rom" <-@-.invalid> wrote in message

> > news:w7btx9bcu422$.dd2f4bntph93$.dlg@40tude.net...

> >> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:41:27 -0700, John Barnes wrote:

> >>

> >>> Acronis allows individual file/folder restores from the backup, Vista

> >>> Ultimate is all or nothing.

> >>

> >> Installing Acronis True Image 11 for current user only failed last

> >> time I tried. Vista Complete PC backup .vhd can be mounted by

> >> installing VHDMount from Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1, create a .reg

> >> file, then [un]mount ([un]plug) from Explorer's context menu.

> >> <http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy/archive/2007/06/20/double-clicking-on-a-vhd-to-mount-it-take-2.aspx>

> >>

> >> --

> >> Rom

> >

> > Interesting, I purchased, downloaded, and installed on Saturday.

> > The first time, I tried installing, I just double clicked the executable,

> > and installed for current user only. It got about two thirds through the

> > install, then backed out and said installation failed.

> >

> > I then tried it again, by right clicking the executable, choosing " run as

> > administrator ", and selecting for all users this time - and the install

> > went fine.

> >

> > I have already imaged my complete system , worked very well.

> >

> > --

> > Don

> >

>

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