Guest JM Posted May 19, 2008 Posted May 19, 2008 Re: ie7 on windows 2000 Bob I wrote: > > > JM wrote: > >> Bob I wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> JM wrote: >>> >>>> Steph wrote: >>>> >>>>> JM <1@2.3> wrote : >>>>> >>>>>>>> Has anyone out there had success making Internet explorer 7 work >>>>>>>> on windows 2000? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> IE7 is not designed to work with Win2k >>>>>>> nor have I heard of any hacks to make it work. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The reason I want to get ie7 working on 2000 is because of the >>>>>> tabbed browsing and phishing filter thing. Also I just like ie7 >>>>>> better than ie6...even though ie in general is not very >>>>>> impressive. And yes, I know that you can get tabbed browsing on >>>>>> other browsers, that's why I use Netscape and firefox, but I still >>>>>> would like to get ie7 to work on 2000. JM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In addtion to what the other posters had to say, JM, why would any >>>>> one in their right mind want to use Internet Explorer (any >>>>> version!) except for Windows Update ? I see you're using >>>>> thunderbird for email, and you mentionned your being a Firefox user >>>>> as well : what could IE7 bring you *if* it was possible to run it >>>>> on 2k ? >>>>> If what you want is tabbed browsing and you're somehow not fully >>>>> pleased with Firefox, you've got other choices (Opera for one, and >>>>> I think, Maxthon or whatever it's called now if you really want to >>>>> stick with the MSIE engine) >>>>> >>>> >>>> How did you find out I was using Thunderbird for email? >>>> >>>> I don't really use Internet Explorer, I just like to experiment. IE7 >>>> on win2000 couldn't really bring me anything but a chance to tell >>>> Microsoft that they are wrong in saying that ie7 doesn't work on >>>> win2000. >>>> >>> >>> So what if you sorta make it open, it's NOT supported, and they don't >>> care, and you impress no one. >> >> >> >> Whether Microsoft supports what I do or not doesn't matter to me and >> if they don't care then they have an attitude problem. And you're >> wrong in saying I would impress no one because I know people who would >> be impressed. >> JM > > Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. > Wasn't planning on it. JM
Guest JM Posted May 19, 2008 Posted May 19, 2008 Re: ie7 on windows 2000 Sid Elbow wrote: > JM wrote: > >> How did you find out I was using Thunderbird for email? > > I suspect he meant you were using Thunderbird as a newsreader (that's > contained in your message header). > > Either that or he assumed that if you were using it as a newsreader you > would automatically be using it as an email client too. Not a very good > assumption - I don't. Actually I just remembered that there is this add-on for thunderbird called "display mail user agent" and it shows what program was used to write the selected message(email or newsgroup). I use it and he probably does too. Are you using thunderbird too? - that's what the add-on says you're using, it would be nice to know if the extension is accurate. Thanks, JM
Guest Sid Elbow Posted May 19, 2008 Posted May 19, 2008 Re: ie7 on windows 2000 JM wrote: > Actually I just remembered that there is this add-on for thunderbird > called "display mail user agent" and it shows what program was used to > write the selected message(email or newsgroup). I use it and he probably > does too. Are you using thunderbird too? - that's what the add-on says > you're using, it would be nice to know if the extension is accurate. Why do you need an add-on? The normal nntp message header tells you what user-agent you are using. just go to View>Headers>All. Yes I'm using Thunderbird - for newsgroups but not for email.
Guest JM Posted May 19, 2008 Posted May 19, 2008 Re: ie7 on windows 2000 Sid Elbow wrote: > JM wrote: > >> Actually I just remembered that there is this add-on for thunderbird >> called "display mail user agent" and it shows what program was used to >> write the selected message(email or newsgroup). I use it and he >> probably does too. Are you using thunderbird too? - that's what the >> add-on says you're using, it would be nice to know if the extension is >> accurate. > > Why do you need an add-on? The normal nntp message header tells you what > user-agent you are using. just go to View>Headers>All. Thanks for the tip. It just takes up a lot of space when you do it that way - the add-on just shows an icon in the right part of the normal view so it helps reduce the space taken up - you should try it. > Yes I'm using Thunderbird - for newsgroups but not for email. What program could be better for email than Thunderbird? JM
Guest Sid Elbow Posted May 19, 2008 Posted May 19, 2008 Re: ie7 on windows 2000 JM wrote: > Thanks for the tip. It just takes up a lot of space when you do it that > way - the add-on just shows an icon in the right part of the normal view > so it helps reduce the space taken up - you should try it. Not really, I only find a need to look at headers rarely so the regular way is fine. I don't have it on by default - just take a quick peek when I want to. Plus, although the Thunderbird/Firefox concept of "community-produced" add-ons sounds great in principal, the fact that they work with today's Firefox/Thunderbird is no guarantee they will work with the version released tomorrow. If you are lucky they may be updated sometime but again there is no guarantee. Many times it's a one-shot effort on the part of the writer. It seems with every new release of either program (which are not infrequent), one or more of my existing add-ons breaks, to the point where I've really given up seeking new add-ons. Nice idea but ... > What program could be better for email than Thunderbird? I suspect if you ask 10 people, you'll get 10 different answers. Thunderbird is relatively basic both as a newsreader and as an email client. In fact, that's why I like it as a newsreader ... some of the others out there (such as XNews et al), while being terrifically versatile, have become way too complex for my needs. Even then, it's filtering is pretty inadequate but I have my own local news-server (Hamster) which gives me much better filtering options at that level. For an email client, I've used Eudora in its various releases for more than 12 years, I'm happy with it and Thunderbird didn't offer anything more (rather less actually - like I say, it's pretty basic). ..... and now back to our regular programming.
Guest JM Posted May 20, 2008 Posted May 20, 2008 Re: ie7 on windows 2000 > Plus, although the Thunderbird/Firefox concept of "community-produced" > add-ons sounds great in principal, the fact that they work with today's > Firefox/Thunderbird is no guarantee they will work with the version > released tomorrow. If you are lucky they may be updated sometime but > again there is no guarantee. Many times it's a one-shot effort on the > part of the writer. > > It seems with every new release of either program (which are not > infrequent), one or more of my existing add-ons breaks, to the point > where I've really given up seeking new add-ons. Nice idea but ... Every time I have updated thunderbird the add-on has always worked fine, but like you said, there is no guarantee it will always work. JM
Guest Steph Posted May 21, 2008 Posted May 21, 2008 Re: ie7 on windows 2000 JM <1@2.3> wrote : > Steph wrote: > How did you find out I was using Thunderbird for email? At least you are using it for net news; your headers betrayed you, as noted by others. > I don't really use Internet Explorer, I just like to experiment. > IE7 on win2000 couldn't really bring me anything but a chance to > tell Microsoft that they are wrong in saying that ie7 doesn't work > on win2000. It's not designed to work, or designed not to work, in Win 2k : others have tried hard, including people who /can/ program and know how to lookup email & news headers :=) I strongly suggest you forget that particular fancy. > I am fully pleased with firefox except for the amount of memory it > can take up. I didn't really like Opera, I still use Netscape, and > the Safari browser from Apple runs on 2000, even though they say > it only works on xp or vista. > Thanks, Y.W. -- Steph
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