Hi, all!

May 15, 2008

After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see that the group

has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to read up on the

'goings on'.

Tony. . .

May 15, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Glad to see you back, Tony.

This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try somewhere like

the SBS group.

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see that the

> group

> has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to read up on

> the

> 'goings on'.

>

> Tony. . .

>

May 15, 2008

RE: Hi, all!

Hi, Tony!

Nice to have you back.

Thought you were on vacation somewhere.

Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see that the group

> has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to read up on the

> 'goings on'.

>

> Tony. . .

>

May 15, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did think the

accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

Tony. . .

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

> Glad to see you back, Tony.

>

> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try somewhere

like

> the SBS group.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see that the

> > group

> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to read up on

> > the

> > 'goings on'.

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

>

May 15, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Well, with a severed connection and the self-destructive motherboard not yet

returned - I did see it fit to go away for five days. Did me a lot of good

too.

Tony. . .

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A56FACDB-33E1-422D-863C-7FDB44D0EC32@microsoft.com...

> Hi, Tony!

> Nice to have you back.

> Thought you were on vacation somewhere.

> Carlos

>

May 15, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Yeah, what was the word for that thing you did?

Ah, I've got it at the tip of my tong.

Yes, it is called "living".

:)

Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Well, with a severed connection and the self-destructive motherboard not yet

> returned - I did see it fit to go away for five days. Did me a lot of good

> too.

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:A56FACDB-33E1-422D-863C-7FDB44D0EC32@microsoft.com...

> > Hi, Tony!

> > Nice to have you back.

> > Thought you were on vacation somewhere.

> > Carlos

> >

>

May 15, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Nobody've said it better, Carlos - one of those things that gets you hooked!

Tony. . .

May 17, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly number of

those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking about how to

get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming months. I

think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal" option for

folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go that

route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs and

users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3 years.

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did think the

> accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

> dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

>> Glad to see you back, Tony.

>>

>> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try somewhere

> like

>> the SBS group.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see that the

>> > group

>> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to read up

>> > on

>> > the

>> > 'goings on'.

>> >

>> > Tony. . .

>> >

>>

>

May 17, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Now I wonder...

How many years from now we will see ourselves discussing about x128 or x256

OS's?

:)

Carlos

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> escribió en el

mensaje de noticias

news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...

>I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly number of

>those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking about how

>to get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming months. I

>think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal" option for

>folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go that

>route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs and

>users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3 years.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did think the

>> accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

>> dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

>> news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

>>> Glad to see you back, Tony.

>>>

>>> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try somewhere

>> like

>>> the SBS group.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Charlie.

>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>

>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see that the

>>> > group

>>> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to read up

>>> > on

>>> > the

>>> > 'goings on'.

>>> >

>>> > Tony. . .

>>> >

>>>

>>

>

May 17, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Yeah, 32bit proc's isn't filling up the shelves much. Soon, nobody but the

severely nostalgic will remember.

Carlos makes a note about future development, I think the present transition

period we are witnessing makes it likely that that there will not be 128bit

CPU's for a long time - but I believe that the bottlenecks that remain will

have to be addressed. I wonder if this might not mean that the 'SX'

architecture will be abandoned and the old 'DX' architecture be resurrected

in one fashion or other?

Something surely must happen with general Bus Architecture when Flash drives

replaces HD's!

(Unless they have something totally 'other' in mind?)

Tony. . .

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...

> I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly number of

> those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking about how

to

> get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming months. I

> think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal" option for

> folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go that

> route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs and

> users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3 years.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did think the

> > accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

> > dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

message

> > news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

> >> Glad to see you back, Tony.

> >>

> >> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try somewhere

> > like

> >> the SBS group.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Charlie.

> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >>

> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> >> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see that

the

> >> > group

> >> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to read up

> >> > on

> >> > the

> >> > 'goings on'.

> >> >

> >> > Tony. . .

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 17, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

In fact the major system builders aren't building systems with 32bit cpus

anymore, with the possible exception of Core Duo cheapies.

By flash drives replacing HDs are you referring to the solid state drives?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

news:O%23TCU1DuIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Yeah, 32bit proc's isn't filling up the shelves much. Soon, nobody but the

> severely nostalgic will remember.

>

> Carlos makes a note about future development, I think the present

> transition

> period we are witnessing makes it likely that that there will not be

> 128bit

> CPU's for a long time - but I believe that the bottlenecks that remain

> will

> have to be addressed. I wonder if this might not mean that the 'SX'

> architecture will be abandoned and the old 'DX' architecture be

> resurrected

> in one fashion or other?

>

> Something surely must happen with general Bus Architecture when Flash

> drives

> replaces HD's!

>

> (Unless they have something totally 'other' in mind?)

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...

>> I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly number of

>> those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking about how

> to

>> get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming months. I

>> think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal" option for

>> folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go that

>> route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs and

>> users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3 years.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> > Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did think the

>> > accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

>> > dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

>> >

>> > Tony. . .

>> >

>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

> message

>> > news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

>> >> Glad to see you back, Tony.

>> >>

>> >> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try

>> >> somewhere

>> > like

>> >> the SBS group.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Charlie.

>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >>

>> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> >> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see that

> the

>> >> > group

>> >> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to read

>> >> > up

>> >> > on

>> >> > the

>> >> > 'goings on'.

>> >> >

>> >> > Tony. . .

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

May 17, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Yes, Solid State - sorry!

Tony. . .

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:795910A0-147F-4AF0-867F-969C9DF0D2C2@microsoft.com...

> In fact the major system builders aren't building systems with 32bit cpus

> anymore, with the possible exception of Core Duo cheapies.

>

> By flash drives replacing HDs are you referring to the solid state drives?

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:O%23TCU1DuIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Yeah, 32bit proc's isn't filling up the shelves much. Soon, nobody but

the

> > severely nostalgic will remember.

> >

> > Carlos makes a note about future development, I think the present

> > transition

> > period we are witnessing makes it likely that that there will not be

> > 128bit

> > CPU's for a long time - but I believe that the bottlenecks that remain

> > will

> > have to be addressed. I wonder if this might not mean that the 'SX'

> > architecture will be abandoned and the old 'DX' architecture be

> > resurrected

> > in one fashion or other?

> >

> > Something surely must happen with general Bus Architecture when Flash

> > drives

> > replaces HD's!

> >

> > (Unless they have something totally 'other' in mind?)

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

message

> > news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...

> >> I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly number

of

> >> those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking about

how

> > to

> >> get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming months. I

> >> think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal" option

for

> >> folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go that

> >> route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs and

> >> users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3 years.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Charlie.

> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >>

> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> >> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> > Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did think

the

> >> > accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

> >> > dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

> >> >

> >> > Tony. . .

> >> >

> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

> > message

> >> > news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

> >> >> Glad to see you back, Tony.

> >> >>

> >> >> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try

> >> >> somewhere

> >> > like

> >> >> the SBS group.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> Charlie.

> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >> >>

> >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> >> >> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> >> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see that

> > the

> >> >> > group

> >> >> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to read

> >> >> > up

> >> >> > on

> >> >> > the

> >> >> > 'goings on'.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Tony. . .

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 17, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Nothing to be sorry about. This is new stuff to the Windows world.

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

news:eTRMgSEuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Yes, Solid State - sorry!

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:795910A0-147F-4AF0-867F-969C9DF0D2C2@microsoft.com...

>> In fact the major system builders aren't building systems with 32bit cpus

>> anymore, with the possible exception of Core Duo cheapies.

>>

>> By flash drives replacing HDs are you referring to the solid state

>> drives?

>>

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive

>>

>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> news:O%23TCU1DuIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> > Yeah, 32bit proc's isn't filling up the shelves much. Soon, nobody but

> the

>> > severely nostalgic will remember.

>> >

>> > Carlos makes a note about future development, I think the present

>> > transition

>> > period we are witnessing makes it likely that that there will not be

>> > 128bit

>> > CPU's for a long time - but I believe that the bottlenecks that remain

>> > will

>> > have to be addressed. I wonder if this might not mean that the 'SX'

>> > architecture will be abandoned and the old 'DX' architecture be

>> > resurrected

>> > in one fashion or other?

>> >

>> > Something surely must happen with general Bus Architecture when Flash

>> > drives

>> > replaces HD's!

>> >

>> > (Unless they have something totally 'other' in mind?)

>> >

>> > Tony. . .

>> >

>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

> message

>> > news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...

>> >> I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly number

> of

>> >> those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking about

> how

>> > to

>> >> get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming months.

>> >> I

>> >> think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal" option

> for

>> >> folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go

>> >> that

>> >> route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs

>> >> and

>> >> users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3 years.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >> Charlie.

>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >>

>> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> >> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> > Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did think

> the

>> >> > accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

>> >> > dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

>> >> >

>> >> > Tony. . .

>> >> >

>> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>> > message

>> >> > news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> Glad to see you back, Tony.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try

>> >> >> somewhere

>> >> > like

>> >> >> the SBS group.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Charlie.

>> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see

>> >> >> > that

>> > the

>> >> >> > group

>> >> >> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to

>> >> >> > read

>> >> >> > up

>> >> >> > on

>> >> >> > the

>> >> >> > 'goings on'.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Tony. . .

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

May 17, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Somewhat true, but not quite - it's a trivial matter, but I had been reading

an article about the matter in that same morning and I felt stupid and I bit

my tongue (for which I'm sorry). . .

Now to something completely different - the selfdestructive 64bit machine

has finally been fixed. It's gotten a new MB, no questions asked! I was so

pleased, I instantly ordered a 30" monitor to be delivered with it.

Tuesday (or Wednesday) will be the day!

Tony. . .

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:8B810289-5A06-426C-B9FC-3A16315EC662@microsoft.com...

> Nothing to be sorry about. This is new stuff to the Windows world.

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:eTRMgSEuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > Yes, Solid State - sorry!

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> > news:795910A0-147F-4AF0-867F-969C9DF0D2C2@microsoft.com...

> >> In fact the major system builders aren't building systems with 32bit

cpus

> >> anymore, with the possible exception of Core Duo cheapies.

> >>

> >> By flash drives replacing HDs are you referring to the solid state

> >> drives?

> >>

> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive

> >>

> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> >> news:O%23TCU1DuIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> > Yeah, 32bit proc's isn't filling up the shelves much. Soon, nobody

but

> > the

> >> > severely nostalgic will remember.

> >> >

> >> > Carlos makes a note about future development, I think the present

> >> > transition

> >> > period we are witnessing makes it likely that that there will not be

> >> > 128bit

> >> > CPU's for a long time - but I believe that the bottlenecks that

remain

> >> > will

> >> > have to be addressed. I wonder if this might not mean that the 'SX'

> >> > architecture will be abandoned and the old 'DX' architecture be

> >> > resurrected

> >> > in one fashion or other?

> >> >

> >> > Something surely must happen with general Bus Architecture when Flash

> >> > drives

> >> > replaces HD's!

> >> >

> >> > (Unless they have something totally 'other' in mind?)

> >> >

> >> > Tony. . .

> >> >

> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

> > message

> >> > news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...

> >> >> I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly

number

> > of

> >> >> those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking

about

> > how

> >> > to

> >> >> get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming

months.

> >> >> I

> >> >> think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal"

option

> > for

> >> >> folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go

> >> >> that

> >> >> route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs

> >> >> and

> >> >> users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3

years.

> >> >>

> >> >> --

> >> >> Charlie.

> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >> >>

> >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> >> >> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> >> > Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did think

> > the

> >> >> > accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

> >> >> > dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Tony. . .

> >> >> >

> >> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

> >> > message

> >> >> > news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

> >> >> >> Glad to see you back, Tony.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try

> >> >> >> somewhere

> >> >> > like

> >> >> >> the SBS group.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> --

> >> >> >> Charlie.

> >> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

> >> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> >> >> >> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> >> >> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see

> >> >> >> > that

> >> > the

> >> >> >> > group

> >> >> >> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to

> >> >> >> > read

> >> >> >> > up

> >> >> >> > on

> >> >> >> > the

> >> >> >> > 'goings on'.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Tony. . .

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 18, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Congratulations! Sounds like a great resolution.

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

news:OiPmaaHuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Somewhat true, but not quite - it's a trivial matter, but I had been

> reading

> an article about the matter in that same morning and I felt stupid and I

> bit

> my tongue (for which I'm sorry). . .

>

> Now to something completely different - the selfdestructive 64bit machine

> has finally been fixed. It's gotten a new MB, no questions asked! I was so

> pleased, I instantly ordered a 30" monitor to be delivered with it.

>

> Tuesday (or Wednesday) will be the day!

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:8B810289-5A06-426C-B9FC-3A16315EC662@microsoft.com...

>> Nothing to be sorry about. This is new stuff to the Windows world.

>>

>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> news:eTRMgSEuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> > Yes, Solid State - sorry!

>> >

>> > Tony. . .

>> >

>> > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> > news:795910A0-147F-4AF0-867F-969C9DF0D2C2@microsoft.com...

>> >> In fact the major system builders aren't building systems with 32bit

> cpus

>> >> anymore, with the possible exception of Core Duo cheapies.

>> >>

>> >> By flash drives replacing HDs are you referring to the solid state

>> >> drives?

>> >>

>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive

>> >>

>> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> >> news:O%23TCU1DuIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> >> > Yeah, 32bit proc's isn't filling up the shelves much. Soon, nobody

> but

>> > the

>> >> > severely nostalgic will remember.

>> >> >

>> >> > Carlos makes a note about future development, I think the present

>> >> > transition

>> >> > period we are witnessing makes it likely that that there will not be

>> >> > 128bit

>> >> > CPU's for a long time - but I believe that the bottlenecks that

> remain

>> >> > will

>> >> > have to be addressed. I wonder if this might not mean that the 'SX'

>> >> > architecture will be abandoned and the old 'DX' architecture be

>> >> > resurrected

>> >> > in one fashion or other?

>> >> >

>> >> > Something surely must happen with general Bus Architecture when

>> >> > Flash

>> >> > drives

>> >> > replaces HD's!

>> >> >

>> >> > (Unless they have something totally 'other' in mind?)

>> >> >

>> >> > Tony. . .

>> >> >

>> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>> > message

>> >> > news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly

> number

>> > of

>> >> >> those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking

> about

>> > how

>> >> > to

>> >> >> get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming

> months.

>> >> >> I

>> >> >> think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal"

> option

>> > for

>> >> >> folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go

>> >> >> that

>> >> >> route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3

> years.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> Charlie.

>> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> > Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did

>> >> >> > think

>> > the

>> >> >> > accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

>> >> >> > dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Tony. . .

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>> >> > message

>> >> >> > news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> >> Glad to see you back, Tony.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try

>> >> >> >> somewhere

>> >> >> > like

>> >> >> >> the SBS group.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> --

>> >> >> >> Charlie.

>> >> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> >> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> >> >> >> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> >> >> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see

>> >> >> >> > that

>> >> > the

>> >> >> >> > group

>> >> >> >> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to

>> >> >> >> > read

>> >> >> >> > up

>> >> >> >> > on

>> >> >> >> > the

>> >> >> >> > 'goings on'.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > Tony. . .

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

May 18, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

By the way, here are two examples of internal SSD drives.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183094 (typical but

too small for a system drive)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609245 (sticker

shock, anyone?)

and this is an external (ExpressCard):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820191058

As the pricing suggests, SSD drives are in their infancy.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:8B810289-5A06-426C-B9FC-3A16315EC662@microsoft.com...

> Nothing to be sorry about. This is new stuff to the Windows world.

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:eTRMgSEuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Yes, Solid State - sorry!

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:795910A0-147F-4AF0-867F-969C9DF0D2C2@microsoft.com...

>>> In fact the major system builders aren't building systems with 32bit

>>> cpus

>>> anymore, with the possible exception of Core Duo cheapies.

>>>

>>> By flash drives replacing HDs are you referring to the solid state

>>> drives?

>>>

>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive

>>>

>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>> news:O%23TCU1DuIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> > Yeah, 32bit proc's isn't filling up the shelves much. Soon, nobody but

>> the

>>> > severely nostalgic will remember.

>>> >

>>> > Carlos makes a note about future development, I think the present

>>> > transition

>>> > period we are witnessing makes it likely that that there will not be

>>> > 128bit

>>> > CPU's for a long time - but I believe that the bottlenecks that remain

>>> > will

>>> > have to be addressed. I wonder if this might not mean that the 'SX'

>>> > architecture will be abandoned and the old 'DX' architecture be

>>> > resurrected

>>> > in one fashion or other?

>>> >

>>> > Something surely must happen with general Bus Architecture when Flash

>>> > drives

>>> > replaces HD's!

>>> >

>>> > (Unless they have something totally 'other' in mind?)

>>> >

>>> > Tony. . .

>>> >

>>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>> message

>>> > news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...

>>> >> I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly

>>> >> number

>> of

>>> >> those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking about

>> how

>>> > to

>>> >> get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming months.

>>> >> I

>>> >> think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal" option

>> for

>>> >> folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go

>>> >> that

>>> >> route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs

>>> >> and

>>> >> users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3

>>> >> years.

>>> >>

>>> >> --

>>> >> Charlie.

>>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>> >>

>>> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>> >> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> >> > Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did think

>> the

>>> >> > accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

>>> >> > dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

>>> >> >

>>> >> > Tony. . .

>>> >> >

>>> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>> > message

>>> >> > news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

>>> >> >> Glad to see you back, Tony.

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try

>>> >> >> somewhere

>>> >> > like

>>> >> >> the SBS group.

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >> --

>>> >> >> Charlie.

>>> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>> >> >> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> >> >> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see

>>> >> >> > that

>>> > the

>>> >> >> > group

>>> >> >> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to

>>> >> >> > read

>>> >> >> > up

>>> >> >> > on

>>> >> >> > the

>>> >> >> > 'goings on'.

>>> >> >> >

>>> >> >> > Tony. . .

>>> >> >> >

>>> >> >>

>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>> >

>>>

>>

>

May 18, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

That's the biggest problem with them now. Also, they're not nearly as fast

as one might hope, though still better than a HD.

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:6C2AD666-0A67-4A2A-8B67-F40BA1893687@microsoft.com...

> By the way, here are two examples of internal SSD drives.

> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183094 (typical

> but too small for a system drive)

> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609245 (sticker

> shock, anyone?)

>

> and this is an external (ExpressCard):

> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820191058

>

> As the pricing suggests, SSD drives are in their infancy.

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:8B810289-5A06-426C-B9FC-3A16315EC662@microsoft.com...

>> Nothing to be sorry about. This is new stuff to the Windows world.

>>

>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> news:eTRMgSEuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Yes, Solid State - sorry!

>>>

>>> Tony. . .

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:795910A0-147F-4AF0-867F-969C9DF0D2C2@microsoft.com...

>>>> In fact the major system builders aren't building systems with 32bit

>>>> cpus

>>>> anymore, with the possible exception of Core Duo cheapies.

>>>>

>>>> By flash drives replacing HDs are you referring to the solid state

>>>> drives?

>>>>

>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive

>>>>

>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>> news:O%23TCU1DuIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> > Yeah, 32bit proc's isn't filling up the shelves much. Soon, nobody

>>>> > but

>>> the

>>>> > severely nostalgic will remember.

>>>> >

>>>> > Carlos makes a note about future development, I think the present

>>>> > transition

>>>> > period we are witnessing makes it likely that that there will not be

>>>> > 128bit

>>>> > CPU's for a long time - but I believe that the bottlenecks that

>>>> > remain

>>>> > will

>>>> > have to be addressed. I wonder if this might not mean that the 'SX'

>>>> > architecture will be abandoned and the old 'DX' architecture be

>>>> > resurrected

>>>> > in one fashion or other?

>>>> >

>>>> > Something surely must happen with general Bus Architecture when Flash

>>>> > drives

>>>> > replaces HD's!

>>>> >

>>>> > (Unless they have something totally 'other' in mind?)

>>>> >

>>>> > Tony. . .

>>>> >

>>>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>> message

>>>> > news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...

>>>> >> I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly

>>>> >> number

>>> of

>>>> >> those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking

>>>> >> about

>>> how

>>>> > to

>>>> >> get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming

>>>> >> months. I

>>>> >> think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal"

>>>> >> option

>>> for

>>>> >> folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go

>>>> >> that

>>>> >> route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs

>>>> >> and

>>>> >> users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3

>>>> >> years.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> --

>>>> >> Charlie.

>>>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>> >>

>>>> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>> >> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> >> > Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did think

>>> the

>>>> >> > accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

>>>> >> > dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > Tony. . .

>>>> >> >

>>>> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>>> > message

>>>> >> > news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

>>>> >> >> Glad to see you back, Tony.

>>>> >> >>

>>>> >> >> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try

>>>> >> >> somewhere

>>>> >> > like

>>>> >> >> the SBS group.

>>>> >> >>

>>>> >> >> --

>>>> >> >> Charlie.

>>>> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>>> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>> >> >>

>>>> >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>> >> >> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> >> >> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see

>>>> >> >> > that

>>>> > the

>>>> >> >> > group

>>>> >> >> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to

>>>> >> >> > read

>>>> >> >> > up

>>>> >> >> > on

>>>> >> >> > the

>>>> >> >> > 'goings on'.

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >> > Tony. . .

>>>> >> >> >

>>>> >> >>

>>>> >> >

>>>> >>

>>>> >

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

May 18, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

It will be a while till there's a compelling need for 128 bit CPUs. At this

point, we're not even using all the possible memory address space - not even

close. So there are clearly many ways they can grow beyond this without

having to go to 128 bit. Which doesn't mean it won't happen, but I'd look

for it more in the Itanium space. And not any time soon even there.

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Carlos" <atashian01@remove_the_obvious_hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23WpTzkCuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Now I wonder...

> How many years from now we will see ourselves discussing about x128 or

> x256 OS's?

> :)

> Carlos

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> escribió en el

> mensaje de noticias

> news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...

>>I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly number of

>>those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking about how

>>to get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming months. I

>>think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal" option for

>>folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go that

>>route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs and

>>users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3 years.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did think the

>>> accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

>>> dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

>>>

>>> Tony. . .

>>>

>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>> message

>>> news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

>>>> Glad to see you back, Tony.

>>>>

>>>> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try somewhere

>>> like

>>>> the SBS group.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Charlie.

>>>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>

>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see that

>>>> > the

>>>> > group

>>>> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to read up

>>>> > on

>>>> > the

>>>> > 'goings on'.

>>>> >

>>>> > Tony. . .

>>>> >

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

May 18, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

On Sat, 17 May 2008 22:05:48 -0700, "Charlie Russel - MVP"

<charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:

>That's the biggest problem with them now. Also, they're not nearly as fast

>as one might hope, though still better than a HD.

The biggest advantage is that they don't use much power, giving longer

battery-life on notebooks. Hard-disk speed (or in this case SSD-speed) is

usually of less importance for notebook users.

jud

May 18, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

To tell you the truth - on my way back home I nearly fell sick, thinking of

the cost, but then I remembered buying my MAG 19" CRT four years ago and

what that did to my work-space. At this time, and thinking of the recent

development (and my age!), it seemed natural to bridge into the future now

and buying a flat-screen today means having a wide-screen and having a

wide-screen means that a 24" will give me a slightly smaller picture than my

existing 19" VGA format. I know I would be severely depressed by that fact

within a few days. So, 26" displays are extremely rare and extremely

expensive for a relatively small size expansion and the 30" HP I ordered is

a bit more expensive than those but also entails a noticeable enlargement

that will eventually (I hope!) make up for the cost.

The screen comes with calibrating software but no hardware (obviously), if

someone happens to know:

could I use a Web-Camera or a Digital Camera as a simple means of

Calibrating Reference

when I set up the display at my home? I have a Casio 7.2 MPx camera

that can produce

astonishingly natural pictures.

Tony. . .

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:A55812A0-2530-4365-9F0B-3F38D68C0BAD@microsoft.com...

> Congratulations! Sounds like a great resolution.

>

May 18, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Tony,

What does the calibrating software calibrate?

Why would you want to calibrate the monitor?

OTOH, my advice is that when you turn on your PC and are sitting in front of

that jumbo monitor, you might want to fasten your seat belt not to be blown

away by your rig.

:)

Carlos

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> To tell you the truth - on my way back home I nearly fell sick, thinking of

> the cost, but then I remembered buying my MAG 19" CRT four years ago and

> what that did to my work-space. At this time, and thinking of the recent

> development (and my age!), it seemed natural to bridge into the future now

> and buying a flat-screen today means having a wide-screen and having a

> wide-screen means that a 24" will give me a slightly smaller picture than my

> existing 19" VGA format. I know I would be severely depressed by that fact

> within a few days. So, 26" displays are extremely rare and extremely

> expensive for a relatively small size expansion and the 30" HP I ordered is

> a bit more expensive than those but also entails a noticeable enlargement

> that will eventually (I hope!) make up for the cost.

>

> The screen comes with calibrating software but no hardware (obviously), if

> someone happens to know:

>

> could I use a Web-Camera or a Digital Camera as a simple means of

> Calibrating Reference

> when I set up the display at my home? I have a Casio 7.2 MPx camera

> that can produce

> astonishingly natural pictures.

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:A55812A0-2530-4365-9F0B-3F38D68C0BAD@microsoft.com...

> > Congratulations! Sounds like a great resolution.

> >

>

May 18, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

As far as I know, Carlos, to have absolutely correct levels of Light -

Contrast - Saturation and Gamma from your screen and all of these

corresponding with the printed images, professional displays was always

expected to be calibrated with a *.CCM file and standard images as reference

and fine-tuning by doing measurements in the room where you are sitting.

Personally, with my ageing eyes and all, I am not all that critical and

probably not even qualified to notice the finer details that some would

judge as being non-fit for the purpose, but I would certainly expect to want

to make adjustments to the factory settings as my room does not in any way

resemble a standard office environment. I also understand that calibration

is more important with larger displays and much more with TFT/LCD displays.

Next time you pass a TV shop window, have a look at the wall of screens and

the wildly varying quality they show and that should answer your question I

guess.

So, not motivated to pay for professional equipment, I thought that perhaps

I could make a short cut and take a photo of the room and use that as

reference to calibrate the display in that room.

I don't really know - Tom's Hardware tested the monster and said the factory

settings were unusually good but that the quality became noticeably better

after calibration (using professional equipment, I gather).

I expect the software to be a beautyfied version of the good old VGA test

routines that you probably know. In addition to the seat belt I have

contemplated bolting the chair to the floor as well, it IS going to be

really, REALLY good! I know it and I think I deserve it, and I will savour

every moment there.

(Yes, I will!)

Tony. . .

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:327609B9-7F36-4B99-9590-AAF905EE055D@microsoft.com...

> Tony,

> What does the calibrating software calibrate?

> Why would you want to calibrate the monitor?

>

> OTOH, my advice is that when you turn on your PC and are sitting in front

of

> that jumbo monitor, you might want to fasten your seat belt not to be

blown

> away by your rig.

> :)

> Carlos

>

> "Tony Sperling" wrote:

>

> > To tell you the truth - on my way back home I nearly fell sick, thinking

of

> > the cost, but then I remembered buying my MAG 19" CRT four years ago and

> > what that did to my work-space. At this time, and thinking of the recent

> > development (and my age!), it seemed natural to bridge into the future

now

> > and buying a flat-screen today means having a wide-screen and having a

> > wide-screen means that a 24" will give me a slightly smaller picture

than my

> > existing 19" VGA format. I know I would be severely depressed by that

fact

> > within a few days. So, 26" displays are extremely rare and extremely

> > expensive for a relatively small size expansion and the 30" HP I ordered

is

> > a bit more expensive than those but also entails a noticeable

enlargement

> > that will eventually (I hope!) make up for the cost.

> >

> > The screen comes with calibrating software but no hardware (obviously),

if

> > someone happens to know:

> >

> > could I use a Web-Camera or a Digital Camera as a simple means

of

> > Calibrating Reference

> > when I set up the display at my home? I have a Casio 7.2 MPx

camera

> > that can produce

> > astonishingly natural pictures.

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> > news:A55812A0-2530-4365-9F0B-3F38D68C0BAD@microsoft.com...

> > > Congratulations! Sounds like a great resolution.

> > >

> >

May 18, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

The write speed is a little slow but the read speed is great.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

news:57D803E9-B5FA-40DF-B4EB-60807527307D@microsoft.com...

> That's the biggest problem with them now. Also, they're not nearly as fast

> as one might hope, though still better than a HD.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:6C2AD666-0A67-4A2A-8B67-F40BA1893687@microsoft.com...

>> By the way, here are two examples of internal SSD drives.

>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183094 (typical

>> but too small for a system drive)

>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609245 (sticker

>> shock, anyone?)

>>

>> and this is an external (ExpressCard):

>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820191058

>>

>> As the pricing suggests, SSD drives are in their infancy.

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:8B810289-5A06-426C-B9FC-3A16315EC662@microsoft.com...

>>> Nothing to be sorry about. This is new stuff to the Windows world.

>>>

>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>> news:eTRMgSEuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> Yes, Solid State - sorry!

>>>>

>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:795910A0-147F-4AF0-867F-969C9DF0D2C2@microsoft.com...

>>>>> In fact the major system builders aren't building systems with 32bit

>>>>> cpus

>>>>> anymore, with the possible exception of Core Duo cheapies.

>>>>>

>>>>> By flash drives replacing HDs are you referring to the solid state

>>>>> drives?

>>>>>

>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive

>>>>>

>>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>>> news:O%23TCU1DuIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> > Yeah, 32bit proc's isn't filling up the shelves much. Soon, nobody

>>>>> > but

>>>> the

>>>>> > severely nostalgic will remember.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Carlos makes a note about future development, I think the present

>>>>> > transition

>>>>> > period we are witnessing makes it likely that that there will not be

>>>>> > 128bit

>>>>> > CPU's for a long time - but I believe that the bottlenecks that

>>>>> > remain

>>>>> > will

>>>>> > have to be addressed. I wonder if this might not mean that the 'SX'

>>>>> > architecture will be abandoned and the old 'DX' architecture be

>>>>> > resurrected

>>>>> > in one fashion or other?

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Something surely must happen with general Bus Architecture when

>>>>> > Flash

>>>>> > drives

>>>>> > replaces HD's!

>>>>> >

>>>>> > (Unless they have something totally 'other' in mind?)

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Tony. . .

>>>>> >

>>>>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>>> message

>>>>> > news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...

>>>>> >> I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly

>>>>> >> number

>>>> of

>>>>> >> those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking

>>>>> >> about

>>>> how

>>>>> > to

>>>>> >> get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming

>>>>> >> months. I

>>>>> >> think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal"

>>>>> >> option

>>>> for

>>>>> >> folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go

>>>>> >> that

>>>>> >> route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing OEMs

>>>>> >> and

>>>>> >> users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3

>>>>> >> years.

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> --

>>>>> >> Charlie.

>>>>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>>>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>>> >> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> >> > Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did

>>>>> >> > think

>>>> the

>>>>> >> > accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

>>>>> >> > dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >> > Tony. . .

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>>>> > message

>>>>> >> > news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

>>>>> >> >> Glad to see you back, Tony.

>>>>> >> >>

>>>>> >> >> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try

>>>>> >> >> somewhere

>>>>> >> > like

>>>>> >> >> the SBS group.

>>>>> >> >>

>>>>> >> >> --

>>>>> >> >> Charlie.

>>>>> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>>>> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>> >> >>

>>>>> >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>>> >> >> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> >> >> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see

>>>>> >> >> > that

>>>>> > the

>>>>> >> >> > group

>>>>> >> >> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to

>>>>> >> >> > read

>>>>> >> >> > up

>>>>> >> >> > on

>>>>> >> >> > the

>>>>> >> >> > 'goings on'.

>>>>> >> >> >

>>>>> >> >> > Tony. . .

>>>>> >> >> >

>>>>> >> >>

>>>>> >> >

>>>>> >>

>>>>> >

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

May 19, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

And the speed they empty my wallet is amazing.

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:847E87A0-C610-49D5-8E0A-8F0C65028FF0@microsoft.com...

> The write speed is a little slow but the read speed is great.

>

> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message

> news:57D803E9-B5FA-40DF-B4EB-60807527307D@microsoft.com...

>> That's the biggest problem with them now. Also, they're not nearly as

>> fast as one might hope, though still better than a HD.

>>

>> --

>> Charlie.

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:6C2AD666-0A67-4A2A-8B67-F40BA1893687@microsoft.com...

>>> By the way, here are two examples of internal SSD drives.

>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183094 (typical

>>> but too small for a system drive)

>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609245 (sticker

>>> shock, anyone?)

>>>

>>> and this is an external (ExpressCard):

>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820191058

>>>

>>> As the pricing suggests, SSD drives are in their infancy.

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:8B810289-5A06-426C-B9FC-3A16315EC662@microsoft.com...

>>>> Nothing to be sorry about. This is new stuff to the Windows world.

>>>>

>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>> news:eTRMgSEuIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Yes, Solid State - sorry!

>>>>>

>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>>

>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:795910A0-147F-4AF0-867F-969C9DF0D2C2@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> In fact the major system builders aren't building systems with 32bit

>>>>>> cpus

>>>>>> anymore, with the possible exception of Core Duo cheapies.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> By flash drives replacing HDs are you referring to the solid state

>>>>>> drives?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:O%23TCU1DuIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> > Yeah, 32bit proc's isn't filling up the shelves much. Soon, nobody

>>>>>> > but

>>>>> the

>>>>>> > severely nostalgic will remember.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Carlos makes a note about future development, I think the present

>>>>>> > transition

>>>>>> > period we are witnessing makes it likely that that there will not

>>>>>> > be

>>>>>> > 128bit

>>>>>> > CPU's for a long time - but I believe that the bottlenecks that

>>>>>> > remain

>>>>>> > will

>>>>>> > have to be addressed. I wonder if this might not mean that the 'SX'

>>>>>> > architecture will be abandoned and the old 'DX' architecture be

>>>>>> > resurrected

>>>>>> > in one fashion or other?

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Something surely must happen with general Bus Architecture when

>>>>>> > Flash

>>>>>> > drives

>>>>>> > replaces HD's!

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > (Unless they have something totally 'other' in mind?)

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > Tony. . .

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in

>>>>> message

>>>>>> > news:EDEEE91C-2BA5-4800-B6B9-45FA2867159B@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> >> I actually think you're right, it has been higher. And a goodly

>>>>>> >> number

>>>>> of

>>>>>> >> those are Vista 64. Mostly folks thinking about it, or thinking

>>>>>> >> about

>>>>> how

>>>>>> > to

>>>>>> >> get out of it. ;) It's going to be interesting in the coming

>>>>>> >> months. I

>>>>>> >> think we're getting close to the point where x64 is a "normal"

>>>>>> >> option

>>>>> for

>>>>>> >> folks with a new PC, and they'll have to decide if they want to go

>>>>>> >> that

>>>>>> >> route. With typical mobos being capable of >4GB, it is forcing

>>>>>> >> OEMs and

>>>>>> >> users both into an area they've seemed to resist for the last 3

>>>>>> >> years.

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >> --

>>>>>> >> Charlie.

>>>>>> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>>>>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>>>>>> >> news:%23kGWMpqtIHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> >> > Thanks, Charlie - yes it's all relative, isn't it? But I did

>>>>>> >> > think

>>>>> the

>>>>>> >> > accumulation level was a bit steeper than when I was so abruptly

>>>>>> >> > dismembered. (As a member of this here society!)

>>>>>> >> >

>>>>>> >> > Tony. . .

>>>>>> >> >

>>>>>> >> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote

>>>>>> >> > in

>>>>>> > message

>>>>>> >> > news:3C7063C2-54C1-42F6-B5FB-3481F7B74A4C@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> >> >> Glad to see you back, Tony.

>>>>>> >> >>

>>>>>> >> >> This isn't busy - just a nice steady flow. You want busy, try

>>>>>> >> >> somewhere

>>>>>> >> > like

>>>>>> >> >> the SBS group.

>>>>>> >> >>

>>>>>> >> >> --

>>>>>> >> >> Charlie.

>>>>>> >> >> http://msmvps.com/xperts64

>>>>>> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>>> >> >>

>>>>>> >> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in

>>>>>> >> >> message

>>>>>> >> >> news:uw%23FgsotIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> >> >> > After a dispute with my ISP I'm back on-line again. I can see

>>>>>> >> >> > that

>>>>>> > the

>>>>>> >> >> > group

>>>>>> >> >> > has been somewhat busy, I guess it will take me a few days to

>>>>>> >> >> > read

>>>>>> >> >> > up

>>>>>> >> >> > on

>>>>>> >> >> > the

>>>>>> >> >> > 'goings on'.

>>>>>> >> >> >

>>>>>> >> >> > Tony. . .

>>>>>> >> >> >

>>>>>> >> >>

>>>>>> >> >

>>>>>> >>

>>>>>> >

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

May 22, 2008

Re: Hi, all!

Carlos wrote:

> Now I wonder...

> How many years from now we will see ourselves discussing about x128 or

> x256 OS's?

10-20 years? When did MS make the jump to 32 bit?

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