Guest Roger Fink Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 When I try to install saved program updates to Office 97 by launching them from my hard drive I get the following message: Error: Setup could not find a drive with [xxxkb] free disk space to install the program. Please free up some space first and retry or press cancel to exit setup. As an experiment I transferred the files to a flash drive. When run from that location they installed with no problem. I then tried to install a large update to Paint Shop Pro 7 from the hard drive and I got the following message: Error: The file C:\Winnt\System32\msvcp60.dll is in use and cannot be installed. Please exit all other applications and retry. Press Ignore to not install the file and Abort to cancel the installation. I transferred that update to the flash drive as well, but this time the message error message was repeated. Installing programs from CD works fine. Not sure if this is a factor, but in addition to my usual buggering around, yesterday I upgraded the memory on the laptop from 1gb to 2gb. The upgrade used the correct module and was within the stated capacity for the machine (2gb). What's going on here? How can I fix this?
Guest Roger Fink Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 Re: Problem running executables from hard drive Re: Problem running executables from hard drive FWIW, I just removed the new 1GB memory module and repeated the process with the same results. Roger Fink wrote: > When I try to install saved program updates to Office 97 by launching > them from my hard drive I get the following message: > > Error: > > Setup could not find a drive with [xxxkb] free disk space to install > the program. Please free up some space first and retry or press > cancel to exit setup. > > As an experiment I transferred the files to a flash drive. When run > from that location they installed with no problem. > > I then tried to install a large update to Paint Shop Pro 7 from the > hard drive and I got the following message: > > Error: > > The file C:\Winnt\System32\msvcp60.dll is in use and cannot be > installed. Please exit all other applications and retry. Press Ignore > to not install the file and Abort to cancel the installation. > > I transferred that update to the flash drive as well, but this time > the message error message was repeated. > > Installing programs from CD works fine. > > Not sure if this is a factor, but in addition to my usual buggering > around, yesterday I upgraded the memory on the laptop from 1gb to > 2gb. The upgrade used the correct module and was within the stated > capacity for the machine (2gb). > > What's going on here? How can I fix this?
Guest Dave Patrick Posted May 25, 2008 Posted May 25, 2008 Re: Problem running eecutables from hard drive "Roger Fink" wrote: > When I try to install saved program updates to Office 97 by launching them > from my hard drive I get the following message: > > Error: > > Setup could not find a drive with [xxxkb] free disk space to install the > program. Please free up some space first and retry or press cancel to exit > setup. > > As an experiment I transferred the files to a flash drive. When run from > that location they installed with no problem. *** How much disk space is available incuding the pagefile? > I then tried to install a large update to Paint Shop Pro 7 from the hard > drive and I got the following message: > > Error: > > The file C:\Winnt\System32\msvcp60.dll is in use and cannot be installed. > Please exit all other applications and retry. Press Ignore to not install > the file and Abort to cancel the installation. > > I transferred that update to the flash drive as well, but this time the > message error message was repeated. *** Try again from a 'Safe Mode' boot. > Installing programs from CD works fine. > > Not sure if this is a factor, but in addition to my usual buggering > around, > yesterday I upgraded the memory on the laptop from 1gb to 2gb. The upgrade > used the correct module and was within the stated capacity for the machine > (2gb). > > What's going on here? How can I fix this? *** If you suspect bad RAM you can test it. http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp -- Regards, Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect
Guest Roger Fink Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Re: Problem running eecutables from hard drive I've been without an internet connection for the better part of a day, which has delayed this response - sorry. In this regard I'm delighted to mention the name of my internet service provider: VERIZON. Working backwards here, I recall now that the Paintshop Pro 7.04 update always had a glitch in it, and that the company's advice was to just go through and complete the installation, as the dialog box allows you to do. It has been awhile since I'd installed it and I had forgotten there was a problem, however benign. As far as the 6 or so Office 97 updates are concerned, executing them from a removable flash drive did work, so as a practical matter I've been able to solve the immediate problem. I don't think corrupted memory was an issue because I reverted back to the original 1gb module (it's buried under the keyboard, so it never left the machine) and the error message persisted. However, since that point I've opened one downloaded executable without a problem. Hard drive is 80gb. Free space is 22gb on 40gb of formatted space. C is the only partition. The Microsoft updates are obviously old, and I think the problem may be the difference they present to the installer versus the one that launched OK, but this is from an outsider looking in. I'd like to fix this because you don't want to knowingly have a corrupted file or whatever the problem is in the OS. As a practical matter, if I've experienced the totality of the problem, then I should be able to live with it if I have to. Dave Patrick wrote: > "Roger Fink" wrote: >> When I try to install saved program updates to Office 97 by >> launching them from my hard drive I get the following message: >> >> Error: >> >> Setup could not find a drive with [xxxkb] free disk space to install >> the program. Please free up some space first and retry or press >> cancel to exit setup. >> >> As an experiment I transferred the files to a flash drive. When run >> from that location they installed with no problem. > > *** How much disk space is available incuding the pagefile? > > >> I then tried to install a large update to Paint Shop Pro 7 from the >> hard drive and I got the following message: >> >> Error: >> >> The file C:\Winnt\System32\msvcp60.dll is in use and cannot be >> installed. Please exit all other applications and retry. Press >> Ignore to not install the file and Abort to cancel the installation. >> >> I transferred that update to the flash drive as well, but this time >> the message error message was repeated. > > *** Try again from a 'Safe Mode' boot. > > >> Installing programs from CD works fine. >> >> Not sure if this is a factor, but in addition to my usual buggering >> around, >> yesterday I upgraded the memory on the laptop from 1gb to 2gb. The >> upgrade used the correct module and was within the stated capacity >> for the machine (2gb). >> >> What's going on here? How can I fix this? > > *** If you suspect bad RAM you can test it. > http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
Guest Dave Patrick Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Re: Problem running eecutables from hard drive The machine doesn't happen to have any hidden manufacturer (recovery or other) partitions? -- Regards, Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect "Roger Fink" wrote: > I've been without an internet connection for the better part of a day, > which > has delayed this response - sorry. In this regard I'm delighted to mention > the name of my internet service provider: VERIZON. > > Working backwards here, I recall now that the Paintshop Pro 7.04 update > always had a glitch in it, and that the company's advice was to just go > through and complete the installation, as the dialog box allows you to do. > It has been awhile since I'd installed it and I had forgotten there was a > problem, however benign. > > As far as the 6 or so Office 97 updates are concerned, executing them from > a > removable > flash drive did work, so as a practical matter I've been able to solve the > immediate problem. I don't think corrupted memory was an issue because I > reverted back to the original 1gb module (it's buried under the keyboard, > so > it never left the machine) and the error message persisted. However, since > that point I've opened one downloaded executable without a problem. > > Hard drive is 80gb. Free space is 22gb on 40gb of formatted space. C is > the > only partition. > > The Microsoft updates are obviously old, and I think the problem may be > the > difference they present to the installer versus the one that launched OK, > but this is from an outsider looking in. > > I'd like to fix this because you don't want to knowingly have a corrupted > file > or whatever the problem is in the OS. As a practical matter, if I've > experienced the totality of the problem, then I should be able to live > with > it if I have > to.
Guest Roger Fink Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Re: Problem running eecutables from hard drive Yes it does. I updated the laptop, a Thinkpad, and that was part of it. Also (Roxio) GoBack is installed, which I believe reserves 10% of the hard drive for itself. Dave Patrick wrote: > The machine doesn't happen to have any hidden manufacturer (recovery > or other) partitions? > > > > "Roger Fink" wrote: >> I've been without an internet connection for the better part of a >> day, which >> has delayed this response - sorry. In this regard I'm delighted to >> mention the name of my internet service provider: VERIZON. >> >> Working backwards here, I recall now that the Paintshop Pro 7.04 >> update always had a glitch in it, and that the company's advice was >> to just go through and complete the installation, as the dialog box >> allows you to do. It has been awhile since I'd installed it and I >> had forgotten there was a problem, however benign. >> >> As far as the 6 or so Office 97 updates are concerned, executing >> them from a >> removable >> flash drive did work, so as a practical matter I've been able to >> solve the immediate problem. I don't think corrupted memory was an >> issue because I reverted back to the original 1gb module (it's >> buried under the keyboard, so >> it never left the machine) and the error message persisted. However, >> since that point I've opened one downloaded executable without a >> problem. >> >> Hard drive is 80gb. Free space is 22gb on 40gb of formatted space. C >> is the >> only partition. >> >> The Microsoft updates are obviously old, and I think the problem may >> be the >> difference they present to the installer versus the one that >> launched OK, but this is from an outsider looking in. >> >> I'd like to fix this because you don't want to knowingly have a >> corrupted file >> or whatever the problem is in the OS. As a practical matter, if I've >> experienced the totality of the problem, then I should be able to >> live with >> it if I have >> to.
Guest Dave Patrick Posted May 26, 2008 Posted May 26, 2008 Re: Problem running eecutables from hard drive Seems there was something about those Office97 updates trying to use the first partition (hidden or otherwise) hence the error message. -- Regards, Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect "Roger Fink" wrote: > Yes it does. I updated the laptop, a Thinkpad, and that was part of it. > Also > (Roxio) GoBack is installed, which I believe reserves 10% of the hard > drive > for itself.
Guest Roger Fink Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Re: Problem running eecutables from hard drive Given that all of the drivers are neatly organized by model number for download on the IBM/Lenovo site, and that I have a copy of their CD-RW/DVD software and a legit W2K disk, which do you think is the best option: Keep the hidden restore partition Delete the partition and install Acronis True Image Delete the partition and install nothing The partition may have solved some problems for Microsoft and the hardware makers, but all I read about it are user tales of woe. Dave Patrick wrote: > Seems there was something about those Office97 updates trying to use > the first partition (hidden or otherwise) hence the error message. > > > > > "Roger Fink" wrote: >> Yes it does. I updated the laptop, a Thinkpad, and that was part of >> it. Also >> (Roxio) GoBack is installed, which I believe reserves 10% of the hard >> drive >> for itself.
Guest Dave Patrick Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Re: Problem running eecutables from hard drive I must have missed something. Why do you think you need to do anything? -- Regards, Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect "Roger Fink" wrote: > Given that all of the drivers are neatly organized by model number for > download on the IBM/Lenovo site, and that I have a copy of their CD-RW/DVD > software and a legit W2K disk, which do you think is the best option: > > Keep the hidden restore partition > Delete the partition and install Acronis True Image > Delete the partition and install nothing > > The partition may have solved some problems for Microsoft and the hardware > makers, but all I read about it are user tales of woe.
Guest Roger Fink Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Re: Problem running eecutables from hard drive It was just a hypothetical question, I guess off-topic, but I've been wondering about this well before this thread. I have a second laptop with XP SP2 installed. I tried to install GoBack 3.2 on it, which is supposed to be compatible with XP, and nearly lost the whole thing, even though it installed fine in an earlier incarnation with SP1. Without really reading up on it I then got Norton GB 4, but based on what I read now, the blind partition makes installation impossible (Norton generally gets the blame for knowingly releasing it with no cautionary warning into an environmnent of blind partition laptops). I'm still dumbstruck at the complexity of these machines and am not inclined to remove what was intended as a factory-installed recovery tool, but given the problems associated with hidden partitons (irrespective of who is to blame), and the availability of other options, I'm wondering if the concept even makes sense. Dave Patrick wrote: > I must have missed something. Why do you think you need to do > anything? > > > > "Roger Fink" wrote: >> Given that all of the drivers are neatly organized by model number >> for download on the IBM/Lenovo site, and that I have a copy of their >> CD-RW/DVD software and a legit W2K disk, which do you think is the >> best option: >> >> Keep the hidden restore partition >> Delete the partition and install Acronis True Image >> Delete the partition and install nothing >> >> The partition may have solved some problems for Microsoft and the >> hardware makers, but all I read about it are user tales of woe.
Guest Dave Patrick Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Re: Problem running eecutables from hard drive Boils down to whether you need this capability or not which it sounds like you don't given you have the operating system installation media and access to the chipset and or hardware drivers. This of course assumes the laptop is capable of booting from the installation CD-Rom. -- Regards, Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup. Microsoft Certified Professional Microsoft MVP [Windows] http://www.microsoft.com/protect "Roger Fink" wrote: > It was just a hypothetical question, I guess off-topic, but I've been > wondering about this well before this thread. I have a second laptop with > XP > SP2 installed. I tried to install GoBack 3.2 on it, which is supposed to > be > compatible with XP, and nearly lost the whole thing, even though it > installed fine in an earlier incarnation with SP1. Without really reading > up > on it I then got Norton GB 4, but based on what I read now, the blind > partition makes installation impossible (Norton generally gets the blame > for > knowingly releasing it with no cautionary warning into an environmnent of > blind partition laptops). > > I'm still dumbstruck at the complexity of these machines and am not > inclined > to remove what was intended as a factory-installed recovery tool, but > given > the problems associated with hidden partitons (irrespective of who is to > blame), and the availability of other options, I'm wondering if the > concept > even makes sense.
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