RE: Windows 64-bit is awful.

[Guest myoldpc]

RE: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

Look I've been running XP PRO 64 for the last couple years now and so has my

wife

we both like it we have very few issues wit drivers or software unless its

that old it has DINO crap on it ! I play the latest games use the newest ver

of Paint shop pro and so on and I have an XFI platinum card that all features

work on very well !

"Disgusted" wrote:

> So I put together this rocking computer with a 64-bit AMD Athlon, etc. etc,

> and I figured I should take advantage of the 64-bit architecture (like is

> being pushed on the Microsoft Web Site) but I have to say Windows XP 64-bit

> doesn't allow me to use many of my devices.

>

> Why oh why did Microsoft push this operating system on their web site? The

> beta stuff they are making doesn't even work with xp 64-bit. I feel like a

> chump and am being punished for trusting microsoft's advertising!

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

MS is not pushing XP Pro x64. It is not even available in a retail box.

They don't run ads for it either. Vista x64 is another matter, but not XP

Pro x64. You had to look specifically for it and determine that your

hardware could handle it before you even got it.

 

"myoldpc" <myoldpc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Look I've been running XP PRO 64 for the last couple years now and so has

> my

> wife

> we both like it we have very few issues wit drivers or software unless its

> that old it has DINO crap on it ! I play the latest games use the newest

> ver

> of Paint shop pro and so on and I have an XFI platinum card that all

> features

> work on very well !

> "Disgusted" wrote:

>

>> So I put together this rocking computer with a 64-bit AMD Athlon, etc.

>> etc,

>> and I figured I should take advantage of the 64-bit architecture (like is

>> being pushed on the Microsoft Web Site) but I have to say Windows XP

>> 64-bit

>> doesn't allow me to use many of my devices.

>>

>> Why oh why did Microsoft push this operating system on their web site?

>> The

>> beta stuff they are making doesn't even work with xp 64-bit. I feel like

>> a

>> chump and am being punished for trusting microsoft's advertising!

[Guest Dominick]

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

>>> So I put together this rocking computer with a 64-bit AMD Athlon,

>>> etc. etc,

>>> and I figured I should take advantage of the 64-bit architecture

>>> (like is

>>> being pushed on the Microsoft Web Site) but I have to say Windows XP

>>> 64-bit

>>> doesn't allow me to use many of my devices.

 

If you were researching a custom system to build, I assume you

researched issues like the memory chips are compatible with the

motherboard and system bus, video card connectors match cables to

monitors, power supply load required, etc., why wouldn't you confirm

there were drivers for the OS you intended to use?

[Guest Michael]

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

Dominick wrote:

>>>> So I put together this rocking computer with a 64-bit AMD Athlon,

>>>> etc. etc,

>>>> and I figured I should take advantage of the 64-bit architecture

>>>> (like is

>>>> being pushed on the Microsoft Web Site) but I have to say Windows XP

>>>> 64-bit

>>>> doesn't allow me to use many of my devices.

>

> If you were researching a custom system to build, I assume you

> researched issues like the memory chips are compatible with the

> motherboard and system bus, video card connectors match cables to

> monitors, power supply load required, etc., why wouldn't you confirm

> there were drivers for the OS you intended to use?

How to buy vista 64-bit business?

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

Places like NewEgg or your local computer store.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116471

 

"Michael" <michaeldadmum@gmail.com.remove_this_tag> wrote in message

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> Dominick wrote:

>>>>> So I put together this rocking computer with a 64-bit AMD Athlon, etc.

>>>>> etc,

>>>>> and I figured I should take advantage of the 64-bit architecture (like

>>>>> is

>>>>> being pushed on the Microsoft Web Site) but I have to say Windows XP

>>>>> 64-bit

>>>>> doesn't allow me to use many of my devices.

>>

>> If you were researching a custom system to build, I assume you researched

>> issues like the memory chips are compatible with the motherboard and

>> system bus, video card connectors match cables to monitors, power supply

>> load required, etc., why wouldn't you confirm there were drivers for the

>> OS you intended to use?

> How to buy vista 64-bit business?

[Guest nospam]

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

>> So I put together this rocking computer with a 64-bit AMD Athlon, etc.

>> etc,

>> and I figured I should take advantage of the 64-bit architecture (like is

>> being pushed on the Microsoft Web Site) but I have to say Windows XP

>> 64-bit

>> doesn't allow me to use many of my devices.

>>

>> Why oh why did Microsoft push this operating system on their web site?

 

Money?

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

So you didn't bother to check for driver availability before you installed

the software? Whose fault is that? Anyway, you have to hunt for the

software even on microsoft.com. MS doesn't advertise it.

 

"nospam" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message

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>

>>> So I put together this rocking computer with a 64-bit AMD Athlon, etc.

>>> etc,

>>> and I figured I should take advantage of the 64-bit architecture (like

>>> is

>>> being pushed on the Microsoft Web Site) but I have to say Windows XP

>>> 64-bit

>>> doesn't allow me to use many of my devices.

>>>

>>> Why oh why did Microsoft push this operating system on their web site?

>

> Money?

>

[Guest Chuck Walbourn [MSFT]]

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

>>> Why oh why did Microsoft push this operating system on their web site?

>

> Money?

 

Microsoft makes no more or less revenue by offering Windows x64 editions. In

fact, we are increasing our development, testing, and support costs by

having another version of Windows.

 

The success of x64 computing is extremely important to moving past the

current limtiations of 32-bit PCs. If your computer has more than about 3.5

GB of RAM installed, you will not get full use of it without an x64 OS.

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/

 

No matter how much RAM your computer has installed, a single 32-bit

application can never make use of more than 2 GB of it. Some special effort

(a technology called Large Address Aware) can get it to support up to 3 GB,

but that's it. Even that requires you boot your 32-bit OS in a special mode

and hope the drivers you have loaded work in that configuration. There are a

few other technology options out there for giving 32-bit a little more room

without jumping to 64-bit, but they all really only work for Servers where

you can tightly control the hardware and software running on the machines.

 

For more details, see:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3602/sponsored_feature_ram_vram_and_.php

 

--

Chuck Walbourn

SDE, XNA Developer Connection

 

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

Re: Windows 64-bit is awful.

 

I like the article and bookmarked it, Chuck. Thanks for the link.

 

"Chuck Walbourn [MSFT]" <chuckw@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>>>> Why oh why did Microsoft push this operating system on their web site?

>>

>> Money?

>

> Microsoft makes no more or less revenue by offering Windows x64 editions.

> In fact, we are increasing our development, testing, and support costs by

> having another version of Windows.

>

> The success of x64 computing is extremely important to moving past the

> current limtiations of 32-bit PCs. If your computer has more than about

> 3.5 GB of RAM installed, you will not get full use of it without an x64

> OS.

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/

>

> No matter how much RAM your computer has installed, a single 32-bit

> application can never make use of more than 2 GB of it. Some special

> effort (a technology called Large Address Aware) can get it to support up

> to 3 GB, but that's it. Even that requires you boot your 32-bit OS in a

> special mode and hope the drivers you have loaded work in that

> configuration. There are a few other technology options out there for

> giving 32-bit a little more room without jumping to 64-bit, but they all

> really only work for Servers where you can tightly control the hardware

> and software running on the machines.

>

> For more details, see:

> http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3602/sponsored_feature_ram_vram_and_.php

>

> --

> Chuck Walbourn

> SDE, XNA Developer Connection

>

> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

> rights.

>