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Guest Solar Induction
Posted

I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure out why my newly built computer

randomly reboots during the Windows XP 64bit installation. The furthest I've

ever gotten was to select my time-zone. Some times it even reboots during the

initial loading of system files (right after loading F6 SATARAID drivers).

 

I've pulled out all RAM except one stick in DIMM 1. I've disconnected my

other 3 SATA HDD's including the 2 in RAID 0. All that's currently left on

the mobo is my SATA Raptor, SATA burner, and my 8800GT video card. Even when

I pulled out all of my SATA devices and used an IDE burner and an IDE HDD,

the system would still randomly reboot. I've flashed the BIOS to Rev 1.1

which is the only option MSI offers for the mobo after Rev1.0. My BIOS

recognizes all of my drives, and all 8GB of my RAM (although not running at

the 1066 speed). The drive boot order is set up for Floppy, Burner, and then

formatted HDD. I've reseated every single connection in my system except for

the CPU, and unfortunately I don't have another PSU to try out.

 

Also, which F6 drivers am I supposed to use? nVidia has SATARAID drivers for

WinXP64 for both my 780I-SLI Northbridge, and for my 570I-SLI Southbridge

(and I know what my SB is used for). I've even tried using all 4 drivers for

F6.

 

So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives, my

system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?

 

--

Centurion 590RC case w/ Tagan ITZ 800W PSU

MSI P7N Diamond w/ stock Q6600

Win XP64 on 8GB OCZ Reaper PC8500 (w/ default timing)

EVGA 8800GT 512MB

150GB WD Raptor SATA

Samsung SH-S203N Burner SATA

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Guest Colin Barnhorst
Posted

Re: Random reboots while trying to install xp64

 

Cooling issues?

 

"Solar Induction" <SolarInduction@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message news:B4332251-6B1E-4B29-954C-03AE29949401@microsoft.com...

> I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure out why my newly built computer

> randomly reboots during the Windows XP 64bit installation. The furthest

> I've

> ever gotten was to select my time-zone. Some times it even reboots during

> the

> initial loading of system files (right after loading F6 SATARAID drivers).

>

> I've pulled out all RAM except one stick in DIMM 1. I've disconnected my

> other 3 SATA HDD's including the 2 in RAID 0. All that's currently left on

> the mobo is my SATA Raptor, SATA burner, and my 8800GT video card. Even

> when

> I pulled out all of my SATA devices and used an IDE burner and an IDE HDD,

> the system would still randomly reboot. I've flashed the BIOS to Rev 1.1

> which is the only option MSI offers for the mobo after Rev1.0. My BIOS

> recognizes all of my drives, and all 8GB of my RAM (although not running

> at

> the 1066 speed). The drive boot order is set up for Floppy, Burner, and

> then

> formatted HDD. I've reseated every single connection in my system except

> for

> the CPU, and unfortunately I don't have another PSU to try out.

>

> Also, which F6 drivers am I supposed to use? nVidia has SATARAID drivers

> for

> WinXP64 for both my 780I-SLI Northbridge, and for my 570I-SLI Southbridge

> (and I know what my SB is used for). I've even tried using all 4 drivers

> for

> F6.

>

> So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives, my

> system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?

>

> --

> Centurion 590RC case w/ Tagan ITZ 800W PSU

> MSI P7N Diamond w/ stock Q6600

> Win XP64 on 8GB OCZ Reaper PC8500 (w/ default timing)

> EVGA 8800GT 512MB

> 150GB WD Raptor SATA

> Samsung SH-S203N Burner SATA

Guest Jeff Gaines
Posted

Re: Random reboots while trying to install xp64

 

On 31/05/2008 in message

<B4332251-6B1E-4B29-954C-03AE29949401@microsoft.com> Solar Induction wrote:

>So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives, my

>system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?

 

Have you run memtest on your new PC?

 

If not it may be worth downloading from:

http://www.memtest86.com/

 

Burn the iso to a CD, boot from it, let it run(overnight if possible),

then you'll know the PC is OK.

 

A frequent problem with new builds is over heating because the CPU heat

sink isn't on quite right.

 

--

Jeff Gaines

Damerham Hampshire UK

Guest Tony Sperling
Posted

Re: Random reboots while trying to install xp64

 

With your problems, I think the suggestion about the heat sink is very

good - in addition, too much cooling paste wouldn't help either. Remember

that there is no compound that leads heat better than the metal-parts it is

connecting. Even if there were, it wouldn't improve heat-dissipation through

the materials - these compunds are used only to remove the microscopic

air-gap that remain even after the surfaces have been polished, for the

best result the metal parts need to be in contact.

 

A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had tested all

kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website was the

funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too. He found that water

had the highest efficincy (for the time it took to boil away) and that

peanut butter was better than almost anything else (although smelly) - I

wish I could remember that site, it was well worth reading!

 

So, I suggest making sure you used as little of the 'goo' as is humanely

possible to apply, while still covering the surfaces, and that nothing oozes

out on the sides when clamping it all together, that would be signaling 'too

much'.

 

If you don't have any BSOD's and error messages, but just rebooting, I don't

think what you have would be typical for memory failures. If you are sure

that your SATA/RAID drivers are 64bit and that the OS you are installing is

64bit, that is hardly what to look for, either. Weak components can sit

anywhere, motherboard, graphics card or power supply, swap those out

one-by-one for parts you know are working, or take the machine down to

someone who knows how to handle a multi-tester.

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

news:xn0fqu4jxhcjeb6000@msnews.microsoft.com...

> On 31/05/2008 in message

> <B4332251-6B1E-4B29-954C-03AE29949401@microsoft.com> Solar Induction

wrote:

>

> >So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives, my

> >system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?

>

> Have you run memtest on your new PC?

>

> If not it may be worth downloading from:

> http://www.memtest86.com/

>

> Burn the iso to a CD, boot from it, let it run(overnight if possible),

> then you'll know the PC is OK.

>

> A frequent problem with new builds is over heating because the CPU heat

> sink isn't on quite right.

>

> --

> Jeff Gaines

> Damerham Hampshire UK

Guest Carlos
Posted

RE: Random reboots while trying to install xp64

 

Solar Induction,

Does the PSU have enough muscle (i.e.: watts)?

Do you have separate 12 volt lines?

Have you connected the additional (4 pin?) power supply connector to the

8800GT card?

Carlos

 

"Solar Induction" wrote:

> I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure out why my newly built computer

> randomly reboots during the Windows XP 64bit installation. The furthest I've

> ever gotten was to select my time-zone. Some times it even reboots during the

> initial loading of system files (right after loading F6 SATARAID drivers).

>

> I've pulled out all RAM except one stick in DIMM 1. I've disconnected my

> other 3 SATA HDD's including the 2 in RAID 0. All that's currently left on

> the mobo is my SATA Raptor, SATA burner, and my 8800GT video card. Even when

> I pulled out all of my SATA devices and used an IDE burner and an IDE HDD,

> the system would still randomly reboot. I've flashed the BIOS to Rev 1.1

> which is the only option MSI offers for the mobo after Rev1.0. My BIOS

> recognizes all of my drives, and all 8GB of my RAM (although not running at

> the 1066 speed). The drive boot order is set up for Floppy, Burner, and then

> formatted HDD. I've reseated every single connection in my system except for

> the CPU, and unfortunately I don't have another PSU to try out.

>

> Also, which F6 drivers am I supposed to use? nVidia has SATARAID drivers for

> WinXP64 for both my 780I-SLI Northbridge, and for my 570I-SLI Southbridge

> (and I know what my SB is used for). I've even tried using all 4 drivers for

> F6.

>

> So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives, my

> system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?

>

> --

> Centurion 590RC case w/ Tagan ITZ 800W PSU

> MSI P7N Diamond w/ stock Q6600

> Win XP64 on 8GB OCZ Reaper PC8500 (w/ default timing)

> EVGA 8800GT 512MB

> 150GB WD Raptor SATA

> Samsung SH-S203N Burner SATA

Guest Juergen Kluth
Posted

Re: Random reboots while trying to install xp64

 

hi,

turn off as much as possible in bios to start

jk

Guest R. C. White
Posted

Re: Random reboots while trying to install xp64

 

Hi, Tony.

> A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had tested

> all

> kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website was

> the

> funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too.

 

I remember that report. I think it was this one, dated in 2002 and recently

updated:

Thermal transfer compound comparison

http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm

 

Even if it's not the same one, it's well worth reading (again). ;<)

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

 

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

news:ukST3IywIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> With your problems, I think the suggestion about the heat sink is very

> good - in addition, too much cooling paste wouldn't help either. Remember

> that there is no compound that leads heat better than the metal-parts it

> is

> connecting. Even if there were, it wouldn't improve heat-dissipation

> through

> the materials - these compunds are used only to remove the microscopic

> air-gap that remain even after the surfaces have been polished, for the

> best result the metal parts need to be in contact.

>

> A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had tested

> all

> kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website was

> the

> funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too. He found that

> water

> had the highest efficincy (for the time it took to boil away) and that

> peanut butter was better than almost anything else (although smelly) - I

> wish I could remember that site, it was well worth reading!

>

> So, I suggest making sure you used as little of the 'goo' as is humanely

> possible to apply, while still covering the surfaces, and that nothing

> oozes

> out on the sides when clamping it all together, that would be signaling

> 'too

> much'.

>

> If you don't have any BSOD's and error messages, but just rebooting, I

> don't

> think what you have would be typical for memory failures. If you are sure

> that your SATA/RAID drivers are 64bit and that the OS you are installing

> is

> 64bit, that is hardly what to look for, either. Weak components can sit

> anywhere, motherboard, graphics card or power supply, swap those out

> one-by-one for parts you know are working, or take the machine down to

> someone who knows how to handle a multi-tester.

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

> "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

> news:xn0fqu4jxhcjeb6000@msnews.microsoft.com...

>> On 31/05/2008 in message

>> <B4332251-6B1E-4B29-954C-03AE29949401@microsoft.com> Solar Induction

> wrote:

>>

>> >So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives, my

>> >system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?

>>

>> Have you run memtest on your new PC?

>>

>> If not it may be worth downloading from:

>> http://www.memtest86.com/

>>

>> Burn the iso to a CD, boot from it, let it run(overnight if possible),

>> then you'll know the PC is OK.

>>

>> A frequent problem with new builds is over heating because the CPU heat

>> sink isn't on quite right.

>>

>> --

>> Jeff Gaines

Guest Tony Sperling
Posted

Re: Random reboots while trying to install xp64

 

You are absolutely right, R.C. - this is the the actual one. The mouth of

the proverbial horse!

 

I have ordered a copy of Acronis, when it arrives I'll have that burned onto

a secure medium together with my partition table.

 

Thank you for your good memory.

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

news:746F3B80-6FE7-4397-B71A-7E230C27E2CA@microsoft.com...

> Hi, Tony.

>

> > A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had tested

> > all

> > kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website was

> > the

> > funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too.

>

> I remember that report. I think it was this one, dated in 2002 and

recently

> updated:

> Thermal transfer compound comparison

> http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm

>

> Even if it's not the same one, it's well worth reading (again). ;<)

>

> RC

> --

> R. C. White, CPA

> San Marcos, TX

> rc@grandecom.net

> Microsoft Windows MVP

> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:ukST3IywIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > With your problems, I think the suggestion about the heat sink is very

> > good - in addition, too much cooling paste wouldn't help either.

Remember

> > that there is no compound that leads heat better than the metal-parts it

> > is

> > connecting. Even if there were, it wouldn't improve heat-dissipation

> > through

> > the materials - these compunds are used only to remove the microscopic

> > air-gap that remain even after the surfaces have been polished, for the

> > best result the metal parts need to be in contact.

> >

> > A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had tested

> > all

> > kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website was

> > the

> > funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too. He found that

> > water

> > had the highest efficincy (for the time it took to boil away) and that

> > peanut butter was better than almost anything else (although smelly) - I

> > wish I could remember that site, it was well worth reading!

> >

> > So, I suggest making sure you used as little of the 'goo' as is humanely

> > possible to apply, while still covering the surfaces, and that nothing

> > oozes

> > out on the sides when clamping it all together, that would be signaling

> > 'too

> > much'.

> >

> > If you don't have any BSOD's and error messages, but just rebooting, I

> > don't

> > think what you have would be typical for memory failures. If you are

sure

> > that your SATA/RAID drivers are 64bit and that the OS you are installing

> > is

> > 64bit, that is hardly what to look for, either. Weak components can sit

> > anywhere, motherboard, graphics card or power supply, swap those out

> > one-by-one for parts you know are working, or take the machine down to

> > someone who knows how to handle a multi-tester.

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> >

> > "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message

> > news:xn0fqu4jxhcjeb6000@msnews.microsoft.com...

> >> On 31/05/2008 in message

> >> <B4332251-6B1E-4B29-954C-03AE29949401@microsoft.com> Solar Induction

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> >So to sum it up... no matter if I'm using SATA drives or IDE drives,

my

> >> >system randomly reboots during Win XP64 installation. Any thoughts?

> >>

> >> Have you run memtest on your new PC?

> >>

> >> If not it may be worth downloading from:

> >> http://www.memtest86.com/

> >>

> >> Burn the iso to a CD, boot from it, let it run(overnight if possible),

> >> then you'll know the PC is OK.

> >>

> >> A frequent problem with new builds is over heating because the CPU heat

> >> sink isn't on quite right.

> >>

> >> --

> >> Jeff Gaines

>

Guest R. C. White
Posted

Re: Random reboots while trying to install xp64

 

Hi, Tony.

> Thank you for your good memory.

 

A "pretty good" memory - assisted by Google. ;<)

 

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

 

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

news:#4EkSmNxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> You are absolutely right, R.C. - this is the the actual one. The mouth of

> the proverbial horse!

>

> I have ordered a copy of Acronis, when it arrives I'll have that burned

> onto

> a secure medium together with my partition table.

>

> Thank you for your good memory.

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

> news:746F3B80-6FE7-4397-B71A-7E230C27E2CA@microsoft.com...

>> Hi, Tony.

>>

>> > A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had

>> > tested

>> > all

>> > kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website

>> > was

>> > the

>> > funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too.

>>

>> I remember that report. I think it was this one, dated in 2002 and

> recently

>> updated:

>> Thermal transfer compound comparison

>> http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm

>>

>> Even if it's not the same one, it's well worth reading (again). ;<)

>>

>> RC

Guest Tony Sperling
Posted

Re: Random reboots while trying to install xp64

 

None-the-less, if you were left sifting less than 50 million hits from an

inspiration generated search string, that's not a bad memory at all! (or an

awesome sifting method?)

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

news:124607BC-0713-424A-BD52-9A93B753102D@microsoft.com...

> Hi, Tony.

>

> > Thank you for your good memory.

>

> A "pretty good" memory - assisted by Google. ;<)

>

> RC

> --

> R. C. White, CPA

> San Marcos, TX

> rc@grandecom.net

> Microsoft Windows MVP

> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:#4EkSmNxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > You are absolutely right, R.C. - this is the the actual one. The mouth

of

> > the proverbial horse!

> >

> > I have ordered a copy of Acronis, when it arrives I'll have that burned

> > onto

> > a secure medium together with my partition table.

> >

> > Thank you for your good memory.

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> >

> > "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message

> > news:746F3B80-6FE7-4397-B71A-7E230C27E2CA@microsoft.com...

> >> Hi, Tony.

> >>

> >> > A few years ago, we had a report here from a creative guy who had

> >> > tested

> >> > all

> >> > kinds of substances to try and separate truth from myth, his website

> >> > was

> >> > the

> >> > funniest bit of reading I had seen for a long time too.

> >>

> >> I remember that report. I think it was this one, dated in 2002 and

> > recently

> >> updated:

> >> Thermal transfer compound comparison

> >> http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm

> >>

> >> Even if it's not the same one, it's well worth reading (again). ;<)

> >>

> >> RC

>


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