CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

[Guest Tony Sperling]

I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as a CD in my

filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that I know I

will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as NTFS and

removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next morning that

partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can delete such a

partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively, can I delete

it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

 

 

Tony. . .

[Guest Carlos]

RE: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Tony,

Have you tried the Disk Manager included in Windows?

Start, Run, diskmgmt.msc <ENTER>

I guess that destroying the partitions and creating them again with that

utility should be enough.

Carlos

 

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as a CD in my

> filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that I know I

> will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as NTFS and

> removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next morning that

> partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can delete such a

> partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively, can I delete

> it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

>

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Yes, I did. Apparently it doesn't like the idea of working with 'readonly'

material (which it must think that it is). Just now, I even tried having

Nero take a look at it - it does see the drive but when I ask it to erase a

disk (in the vague hope it would treat it as a RW) it only lists actual

CD/DVD drives as available to that option. It's not a big deal, and it's not

for the CD size700MB (1/6, almost) which is effectively lost, I could force

myself to accept that, if I didn't had to have it's futile presence in my

face all of the time.

 

On the other hand, I may feed it to Suse and let 'gPartEd' try out it's

appetite one day?

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:C66E7CA3-1F8E-4534-9F02-4D53E64365C8@microsoft.com...

> Tony,

> Have you tried the Disk Manager included in Windows?

> Start, Run, diskmgmt.msc <ENTER>

> I guess that destroying the partitions and creating them again with that

> utility should be enough.

> Carlos

>

> "Tony Sperling" wrote:

>

> > I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as a CD

in my

> > filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that I know

I

> > will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as NTFS and

> > removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next morning

that

> > partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can delete

such a

> > partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively, can I

delete

> > it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest Carlos]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

There are times when Linux seems to come to the rescue, ja!

You might try with one of those bootable distros and see what they can do

with your rogue USB drive partition.

 

On the other hand..., will there not be an issue of ownerships and obscure

rights that is preventing your attempts to attack that partition?

 

Carlos

 

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Yes, I did. Apparently it doesn't like the idea of working with 'readonly'

> material (which it must think that it is). Just now, I even tried having

> Nero take a look at it - it does see the drive but when I ask it to erase a

> disk (in the vague hope it would treat it as a RW) it only lists actual

> CD/DVD drives as available to that option. It's not a big deal, and it's not

> for the CD size700MB (1/6, almost) which is effectively lost, I could force

> myself to accept that, if I didn't had to have it's futile presence in my

> face all of the time.

>

> On the other hand, I may feed it to Suse and let 'gPartEd' try out it's

> appetite one day?

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C66E7CA3-1F8E-4534-9F02-4D53E64365C8@microsoft.com...

> > Tony,

> > Have you tried the Disk Manager included in Windows?

> > Start, Run, diskmgmt.msc <ENTER>

> > I guess that destroying the partitions and creating them again with that

> > utility should be enough.

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> >

> > > I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as a CD

> in my

> > > filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that I know

> I

> > > will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as NTFS and

> > > removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next morning

> that

> > > partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can delete

> such a

> > > partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively, can I

> delete

> > > it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

> > >

> > >

> > > Tony. . .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Hmm. . .I'm not sure I know what they would do with their ownership if I

threw the thing in the incinerator? Nor am I certain who a CDFS partition

would 'belong' to? [sony/Philips?]

 

They shall be welcome to come knocking on the door!

 

 

Tony. . .

[Guest Carlos]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

I see you are in a good mood today, Tony.

By ownership I meant right-clicking, Properties and then going to the

Security tab in order to see who's the owner and whether you can change it to

good ol' Tony.

From there on you would be able to do what you wish... In theory, I mean!

:)

Carlos

 

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Hmm. . .I'm not sure I know what they would do with their ownership if I

> threw the thing in the incinerator? Nor am I certain who a CDFS partition

> would 'belong' to? [sony/Philips?]

>

> They shall be welcome to come knocking on the door!

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

>

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Ah, the 'Human Factor', Carlos. That is why IANAL (I am not a Lawyer)

 

Perhaps an indication that there is too much of Legal Issues surrounding

Windows in general? At least too much for me to remain uninfluenced and not

see EULA's everywhere: "If I cook the rice, is it O.K. in the legal sense to

eat them, or should I send the remains back?".

 

But you are right of course. I all ready noticed early on that they had been

doing their 'funny' stuff with the 'attributes', that's how I managed to

reformat the regular part of the drive. Now, after having Nero to look it

over, I ejected the CD part which has now become inaccessible and show no

capacity, except 22MB is actually missing from the Removable Drive part, and

the properties on the CD part does not appear - not even the attributes that

I changed earlier. Mysterious!!!

 

As it is, I would be happy if I could make it disappear and not reappear

when I reboot, so now I just removed it via 'Remove Hardware' wizard, where

it was listed twice, once as a diskdrive and once as a CD. It shall be

exciting to see what happens now.

 

Thanks, though - and please remember to treat me with some patience.

 

 

P.S.

 

I do have Suse 11.0 Beta as a dedicated installation on one machine, the old

64bit Asrock that I used to test XP x64 - this is probably the most 'good

looking' OS I have yet seen, I am still struggling with some of the aspects

of YAST and SAX and some other of the Suse specifics, and the RC is fresh

out and should have an awesome functionality too. The old 10.3 was a very

complete OS in my view.

 

 

Tony. . .

[Guest Carlos]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Tony,

If you are on Suse, you might want to read this note then:

http://www.warp2search.net/contentteller/news_story/opensuse_11_rc1_the_mercedes_benz_to_ubuntus_volkswagen.html

It is RC1 time!

 

Carlos

 

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Ah, the 'Human Factor', Carlos. That is why IANAL (I am not a Lawyer)

>

> Perhaps an indication that there is too much of Legal Issues surrounding

> Windows in general? At least too much for me to remain uninfluenced and not

> see EULA's everywhere: "If I cook the rice, is it O.K. in the legal sense to

> eat them, or should I send the remains back?".

>

> But you are right of course. I all ready noticed early on that they had been

> doing their 'funny' stuff with the 'attributes', that's how I managed to

> reformat the regular part of the drive. Now, after having Nero to look it

> over, I ejected the CD part which has now become inaccessible and show no

> capacity, except 22MB is actually missing from the Removable Drive part, and

> the properties on the CD part does not appear - not even the attributes that

> I changed earlier. Mysterious!!!

>

> As it is, I would be happy if I could make it disappear and not reappear

> when I reboot, so now I just removed it via 'Remove Hardware' wizard, where

> it was listed twice, once as a diskdrive and once as a CD. It shall be

> exciting to see what happens now.

>

> Thanks, though - and please remember to treat me with some patience.

>

>

> P.S.

>

> I do have Suse 11.0 Beta as a dedicated installation on one machine, the old

> 64bit Asrock that I used to test XP x64 - this is probably the most 'good

> looking' OS I have yet seen, I am still struggling with some of the aspects

> of YAST and SAX and some other of the Suse specifics, and the RC is fresh

> out and should have an awesome functionality too. The old 10.3 was a very

> complete OS in my view.

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Yes, I can only agree with the man. Actually, the only thing that is wrong

with OpenSuse, is that it's not a Software Distribution like Gentoo.

 

Gentoo is right down my ally, but alas, I didn't have the time to learn how

to install it. I tried 'Sabayon' for a long time, which is an installable

Gentoo-based system and I loved that wonderful venture but they turned out

to being intent on having to try out anything that was new - didn't matter

if it worked at all, only requirement was that it was the newest of the new

and every new bug-fixed version had all the experimental stuff in it too,

one half of which wouldn't run and the other half would crash something

else. This pushed me away since you would never end up with a single stable

version from which you could build your own. But I saw enough that I know it

will have to be a software distro. Soon now, my father is going to 'the

home' for proper care and me -I'm going on 60 and may not find a job

anymore, so I shall have time for all that now and I may end up building my

own software distro that'll integrate all the best little goodies - in

software - into a compact *.ISO. A 'Tonix' system, perhaps? Nah - I think

that one may be taken already.

 

OpenSuse is a community driven project with Novell employed people behind

the scenes, and this makes all the difference. These folk know what they are

doing and they are bent on delivering. And they have a really nice NG forum

too, much like we have.

 

;o)-

 

 

Tony. . .

[Guest Darrell Gorter[MSFT]]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Hello Tony,

Did you try diskpart to repartition the flash drive?

There should be more functionality in diskpart inlcuding clean to wipe the

drive is needed.

Thanks,

Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

 

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| >

| >Ah, the 'Human Factor', Carlos. That is why IANAL (I am not a Lawyer)

| >

| >Perhaps an indication that there is too much of Legal Issues surrounding

| >Windows in general? At least too much for me to remain uninfluenced and

not

| >see EULA's everywhere: "If I cook the rice, is it O.K. in the legal

sense to

| >eat them, or should I send the remains back?".

| >

| >But you are right of course. I all ready noticed early on that they had

been

| >doing their 'funny' stuff with the 'attributes', that's how I managed to

| >reformat the regular part of the drive. Now, after having Nero to look it

| >over, I ejected the CD part which has now become inaccessible and show no

| >capacity, except 22MB is actually missing from the Removable Drive part,

and

| >the properties on the CD part does not appear - not even the attributes

that

| >I changed earlier. Mysterious!!!

| >

| >As it is, I would be happy if I could make it disappear and not reappear

| >when I reboot, so now I just removed it via 'Remove Hardware' wizard,

where

| >it was listed twice, once as a diskdrive and once as a CD. It shall be

| >exciting to see what happens now.

| >

| >Thanks, though - and please remember to treat me with some patience.

| >

| >

| >P.S.

| >

| >I do have Suse 11.0 Beta as a dedicated installation on one machine, the

old

| >64bit Asrock that I used to test XP x64 - this is probably the most 'good

| >looking' OS I have yet seen, I am still struggling with some of the

aspects

| >of YAST and SAX and some other of the Suse specifics, and the RC is fresh

| >out and should have an awesome functionality too. The old 10.3 was a very

| >complete OS in my view.

| >

| >

| >Tony. . .

| >

| >

| >

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

As of now, I have gone through all different methods of disconnecting it

that I know of and rebooting, but it keeps showing up again each time - I

confess, my XP is away for repairs and I'm on Win2K at the moment, but I

asked anyway because the problem is the same when the machine returns. I

don't assume FDISK will handle CDFS?

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

 

""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:616W35oxIHA.1788@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...

> Hello Tony,

> Did you try diskpart to repartition the flash drive?

> There should be more functionality in diskpart inlcuding clean to wipe the

> drive is needed.

> Thanks,

> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

>

> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights

> --------------------

> | >From: "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk>

> | >References: <e6uoq5ixIHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>

> <C66E7CA3-1F8E-4534-9F02-4D53E64365C8@microsoft.com>

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> <771BD308-171E-41BB-A099-7E6F78EC9893@microsoft.com>

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microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:17954

> | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

> | >

> | >Ah, the 'Human Factor', Carlos. That is why IANAL (I am not a Lawyer)

> | >

> | >Perhaps an indication that there is too much of Legal Issues

surrounding

> | >Windows in general? At least too much for me to remain uninfluenced and

> not

> | >see EULA's everywhere: "If I cook the rice, is it O.K. in the legal

> sense to

> | >eat them, or should I send the remains back?".

> | >

> | >But you are right of course. I all ready noticed early on that they had

> been

> | >doing their 'funny' stuff with the 'attributes', that's how I managed

to

> | >reformat the regular part of the drive. Now, after having Nero to look

it

> | >over, I ejected the CD part which has now become inaccessible and show

no

> | >capacity, except 22MB is actually missing from the Removable Drive

part,

> and

> | >the properties on the CD part does not appear - not even the attributes

> that

> | >I changed earlier. Mysterious!!!

> | >

> | >As it is, I would be happy if I could make it disappear and not

reappear

> | >when I reboot, so now I just removed it via 'Remove Hardware' wizard,

> where

> | >it was listed twice, once as a diskdrive and once as a CD. It shall be

> | >exciting to see what happens now.

> | >

> | >Thanks, though - and please remember to treat me with some patience.

> | >

> | >

> | >P.S.

> | >

> | >I do have Suse 11.0 Beta as a dedicated installation on one machine,

the

> old

> | >64bit Asrock that I used to test XP x64 - this is probably the most

'good

> | >looking' OS I have yet seen, I am still struggling with some of the

> aspects

> | >of YAST and SAX and some other of the Suse specifics, and the RC is

fresh

> | >out and should have an awesome functionality too. The old 10.3 was a

very

> | >complete OS in my view.

> | >

> | >

> | >Tony. . .

> | >

> | >

> | >

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Fdisk removes an existing partition and creates a new one. The previous

file system should not matter.

 

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

news:eoDk$npxIHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> As of now, I have gone through all different methods of disconnecting it

> that I know of and rebooting, but it keeps showing up again each time - I

> confess, my XP is away for repairs and I'm on Win2K at the moment, but I

> asked anyway because the problem is the same when the machine returns. I

> don't assume FDISK will handle CDFS?

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

>

> ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:616W35oxIHA.1788@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...

>> Hello Tony,

>> Did you try diskpart to repartition the flash drive?

>> There should be more functionality in diskpart inlcuding clean to wipe

>> the

>> drive is needed.

>> Thanks,

>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

>>

>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

>> rights

>> --------------------

>> | >From: "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk>

>> | >References: <e6uoq5ixIHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>

>> <C66E7CA3-1F8E-4534-9F02-4D53E64365C8@microsoft.com>

>> <ubEwNqkxIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>

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>> <uRFO6IlxIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>

>> <771BD308-171E-41BB-A099-7E6F78EC9893@microsoft.com>

>> | >Subject: Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

>> | >Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 20:45:45 +0200

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> microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:17954

>> | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

>> | >

>> | >Ah, the 'Human Factor', Carlos. That is why IANAL (I am not a Lawyer)

>> | >

>> | >Perhaps an indication that there is too much of Legal Issues

> surrounding

>> | >Windows in general? At least too much for me to remain uninfluenced

>> and

>> not

>> | >see EULA's everywhere: "If I cook the rice, is it O.K. in the legal

>> sense to

>> | >eat them, or should I send the remains back?".

>> | >

>> | >But you are right of course. I all ready noticed early on that they

>> had

>> been

>> | >doing their 'funny' stuff with the 'attributes', that's how I managed

> to

>> | >reformat the regular part of the drive. Now, after having Nero to look

> it

>> | >over, I ejected the CD part which has now become inaccessible and show

> no

>> | >capacity, except 22MB is actually missing from the Removable Drive

> part,

>> and

>> | >the properties on the CD part does not appear - not even the

>> attributes

>> that

>> | >I changed earlier. Mysterious!!!

>> | >

>> | >As it is, I would be happy if I could make it disappear and not

> reappear

>> | >when I reboot, so now I just removed it via 'Remove Hardware' wizard,

>> where

>> | >it was listed twice, once as a diskdrive and once as a CD. It shall be

>> | >exciting to see what happens now.

>> | >

>> | >Thanks, though - and please remember to treat me with some patience.

>> | >

>> | >

>> | >P.S.

>> | >

>> | >I do have Suse 11.0 Beta as a dedicated installation on one machine,

> the

>> old

>> | >64bit Asrock that I used to test XP x64 - this is probably the most

> 'good

>> | >looking' OS I have yet seen, I am still struggling with some of the

>> aspects

>> | >of YAST and SAX and some other of the Suse specifics, and the RC is

> fresh

>> | >out and should have an awesome functionality too. The old 10.3 was a

> very

>> | >complete OS in my view.

>> | >

>> | >

>> | >Tony. . .

>> | >

>> | >

>> | >

>>

>

>

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Wow! I thought I knew my DOS, but the logic of your argument surprise me,

Colin. Thanks, I'll try it immediately!

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

---

You can never have too many options!

---

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:B1103A0D-AEB9-4D09-9423-621CF78E2987@microsoft.com...

> Fdisk removes an existing partition and creates a new one. The previous

> file system should not matter.

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:eoDk$npxIHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > As of now, I have gone through all different methods of disconnecting it

> > that I know of and rebooting, but it keeps showing up again each time -

I

> > confess, my XP is away for repairs and I'm on Win2K at the moment, but I

> > asked anyway because the problem is the same when the machine returns. I

> > don't assume FDISK will handle CDFS?

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in

message

> > news:616W35oxIHA.1788@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...

> >> Hello Tony,

> >> Did you try diskpart to repartition the flash drive?

> >> There should be more functionality in diskpart inlcuding clean to wipe

> >> the

> >> drive is needed.

> >> Thanks,

> >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

> >>

> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

> >> rights

> >> --------------------

> >> | >From: "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk>

> >> | >References: <e6uoq5ixIHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>

> >> <C66E7CA3-1F8E-4534-9F02-4D53E64365C8@microsoft.com>

> >> <ubEwNqkxIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>

> >> <37C81952-D5EC-4599-A754-5060614F63AD@microsoft.com>

> >> <uRFO6IlxIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>

> >> <771BD308-171E-41BB-A099-7E6F78EC9893@microsoft.com>

> >> | >Subject: Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

> >> | >Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 20:45:45 +0200

> >> | >Lines: 36

> >> | >X-Priority: 3

> >> | >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal

> >> | >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914

> >> | >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914

> >> | >X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080604-1, 04-06-2008), Outbound message

> >> | >X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

> >> | >Message-ID: <#hflgMnxIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>

> >> | >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

> >> | >NNTP-Posting-Host: 1385155113.dhcp.dbnet.dk 82.143.202.41

> >> | >Path:

TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl

> >> | >Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl

> > microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:17954

> >> | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

> >> | >

> >> | >Ah, the 'Human Factor', Carlos. That is why IANAL (I am not a

Lawyer)

> >> | >

> >> | >Perhaps an indication that there is too much of Legal Issues

> > surrounding

> >> | >Windows in general? At least too much for me to remain uninfluenced

> >> and

> >> not

> >> | >see EULA's everywhere: "If I cook the rice, is it O.K. in the legal

> >> sense to

> >> | >eat them, or should I send the remains back?".

> >> | >

> >> | >But you are right of course. I all ready noticed early on that they

> >> had

> >> been

> >> | >doing their 'funny' stuff with the 'attributes', that's how I

managed

> > to

> >> | >reformat the regular part of the drive. Now, after having Nero to

look

> > it

> >> | >over, I ejected the CD part which has now become inaccessible and

show

> > no

> >> | >capacity, except 22MB is actually missing from the Removable Drive

> > part,

> >> and

> >> | >the properties on the CD part does not appear - not even the

> >> attributes

> >> that

> >> | >I changed earlier. Mysterious!!!

> >> | >

> >> | >As it is, I would be happy if I could make it disappear and not

> > reappear

> >> | >when I reboot, so now I just removed it via 'Remove Hardware'

wizard,

> >> where

> >> | >it was listed twice, once as a diskdrive and once as a CD. It shall

be

> >> | >exciting to see what happens now.

> >> | >

> >> | >Thanks, though - and please remember to treat me with some patience.

> >> | >

> >> | >

> >> | >P.S.

> >> | >

> >> | >I do have Suse 11.0 Beta as a dedicated installation on one machine,

> > the

> >> old

> >> | >64bit Asrock that I used to test XP x64 - this is probably the most

> > 'good

> >> | >looking' OS I have yet seen, I am still struggling with some of the

> >> aspects

> >> | >of YAST and SAX and some other of the Suse specifics, and the RC is

> > fresh

> >> | >out and should have an awesome functionality too. The old 10.3 was a

> > very

> >> | >complete OS in my view.

> >> | >

> >> | >

> >> | >Tony. . .

> >> | >

> >> | >

> >> | >

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest Carlos]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

C'mon, Tony!

It is almost midnight here and I cannot sleep without knowing the solution

to your problem!

:)

Carlos

(Watching soccer game between Boca Juniors and Fluminense)

 

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Wow! I thought I knew my DOS, but the logic of your argument surprise me,

> Colin. Thanks, I'll try it immediately!

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

> ---

> You can never have too many options!

> ---

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:B1103A0D-AEB9-4D09-9423-621CF78E2987@microsoft.com...

> > Fdisk removes an existing partition and creates a new one. The previous

> > file system should not matter.

> >

> > "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> > news:eoDk$npxIHA.4500@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > > As of now, I have gone through all different methods of disconnecting it

> > > that I know of and rebooting, but it keeps showing up again each time -

> I

> > > confess, my XP is away for repairs and I'm on Win2K at the moment, but I

> > > asked anyway because the problem is the same when the machine returns. I

> > > don't assume FDISK will handle CDFS?

> > >

> > >

> > > Tony. . .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message

> > > news:616W35oxIHA.1788@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...

> > >> Hello Tony,

> > >> Did you try diskpart to repartition the flash drive?

> > >> There should be more functionality in diskpart inlcuding clean to wipe

> > >> the

> > >> drive is needed.

> > >> Thanks,

> > >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

> > >>

> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

> > >> rights

> > >> --------------------

> > >> | >From: "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk>

> > >> | >References: <e6uoq5ixIHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>

> > >> <C66E7CA3-1F8E-4534-9F02-4D53E64365C8@microsoft.com>

> > >> <ubEwNqkxIHA.5580@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>

> > >> <37C81952-D5EC-4599-A754-5060614F63AD@microsoft.com>

> > >> <uRFO6IlxIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>

> > >> <771BD308-171E-41BB-A099-7E6F78EC9893@microsoft.com>

> > >> | >Subject: Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

> > >> | >Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 20:45:45 +0200

> > >> | >Lines: 36

> > >> | >X-Priority: 3

> > >> | >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal

> > >> | >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914

> > >> | >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914

> > >> | >X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080604-1, 04-06-2008), Outbound message

> > >> | >X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

> > >> | >Message-ID: <#hflgMnxIHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>

> > >> | >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

> > >> | >NNTP-Posting-Host: 1385155113.dhcp.dbnet.dk 82.143.202.41

> > >> | >Path:

> TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl

> > >> | >Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl

> > > microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general:17954

> > >> | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

> > >> | >

> > >> | >Ah, the 'Human Factor', Carlos. That is why IANAL (I am not a

> Lawyer)

> > >> | >

> > >> | >Perhaps an indication that there is too much of Legal Issues

> > > surrounding

> > >> | >Windows in general? At least too much for me to remain uninfluenced

> > >> and

> > >> not

> > >> | >see EULA's everywhere: "If I cook the rice, is it O.K. in the legal

> > >> sense to

> > >> | >eat them, or should I send the remains back?".

> > >> | >

> > >> | >But you are right of course. I all ready noticed early on that they

> > >> had

> > >> been

> > >> | >doing their 'funny' stuff with the 'attributes', that's how I

> managed

> > > to

> > >> | >reformat the regular part of the drive. Now, after having Nero to

> look

> > > it

> > >> | >over, I ejected the CD part which has now become inaccessible and

> show

> > > no

> > >> | >capacity, except 22MB is actually missing from the Removable Drive

> > > part,

> > >> and

> > >> | >the properties on the CD part does not appear - not even the

> > >> attributes

> > >> that

> > >> | >I changed earlier. Mysterious!!!

> > >> | >

> > >> | >As it is, I would be happy if I could make it disappear and not

> > > reappear

> > >> | >when I reboot, so now I just removed it via 'Remove Hardware'

> wizard,

> > >> where

> > >> | >it was listed twice, once as a diskdrive and once as a CD. It shall

> be

> > >> | >exciting to see what happens now.

> > >> | >

> > >> | >Thanks, though - and please remember to treat me with some patience.

> > >> | >

> > >> | >

> > >> | >P.S.

> > >> | >

> > >> | >I do have Suse 11.0 Beta as a dedicated installation on one machine,

> > > the

> > >> old

> > >> | >64bit Asrock that I used to test XP x64 - this is probably the most

> > > 'good

> > >> | >looking' OS I have yet seen, I am still struggling with some of the

> > >> aspects

> > >> | >of YAST and SAX and some other of the Suse specifics, and the RC is

> > > fresh

> > >> | >out and should have an awesome functionality too. The old 10.3 was a

> > > very

> > >> | >complete OS in my view.

> > >> | >

> > >> | >

> > >> | >Tony. . .

> > >> | >

> > >> | >

> > >> | >

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest Robert McMillan]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

What brand is the flash disk? If it is a Sandisk and the utilities you speak

of are the U3 suite then sandisk provides a utility on their website for

removing the U3 programs and partition. This will allow you to convert it

back to a regular usb stick.

HTH

Robert

 

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

news:e6uoq5ixIHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as a CD in

>my

> filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that I know I

> will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as NTFS and

> removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next morning

> that

> partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can delete such

> a

> partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively, can I

> delete

> it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

GG, Robert - this looks like it solves the matter in one single blow! It is

a Sandisk, indeed, and I was rummaging my drawers for those old bootable

floppies - thanks so much for your apt intervention!

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

"Robert McMillan" <rmcmillan@bigpond.com> wrote in message

news:OiiIebrxIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> What brand is the flash disk? If it is a Sandisk and the utilities you

speak

> of are the U3 suite then sandisk provides a utility on their website for

> removing the U3 programs and partition. This will allow you to convert it

> back to a regular usb stick.

> HTH

> Robert

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:e6uoq5ixIHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as a CD in

> >my

> > filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that I know

I

> > will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as NTFS and

> > removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next morning

> > that

> > partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can delete

such

> > a

> > partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively, can I

> > delete

> > it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest Robert McMillan]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Glad I could help. Here is a link incase anyone else was interested.

U3 Launchpad Removal Tool

http://www.sandisk.com/retail/default.aspx?catid=1415

 

Robert

 

"Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

news:upT39OuxIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> GG, Robert - this looks like it solves the matter in one single blow! It

> is

> a Sandisk, indeed, and I was rummaging my drawers for those old bootable

> floppies - thanks so much for your apt intervention!

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

> "Robert McMillan" <rmcmillan@bigpond.com> wrote in message

> news:OiiIebrxIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> What brand is the flash disk? If it is a Sandisk and the utilities you

> speak

>> of are the U3 suite then sandisk provides a utility on their website for

>> removing the U3 programs and partition. This will allow you to convert it

>> back to a regular usb stick.

>> HTH

>> Robert

>>

>> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

>> news:e6uoq5ixIHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as a CD

>> >in

>> >my

>> > filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that I

>> > know

> I

>> > will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as NTFS and

>> > removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next morning

>> > that

>> > partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can delete

> such

>> > a

>> > partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively, can I

>> > delete

>> > it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

>> >

>> >

>> > Tony. . .

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>

>

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Thanks a lot, Robert. Initially, because of my useless 'fiddling', I had

managed to block myself from accessing the drive - that is sorted now. I

downloaded the utility, started the Launchpad and every bit of the annoying

extras disappeared in seconds.

 

Couldn't be any easier! And Carlos - you can go to sleep now!

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

"Robert McMillan" <rmcmillan@bigpond.com> wrote in message

news:%23US$0ivxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Glad I could help. Here is a link incase anyone else was interested.

> U3 Launchpad Removal Tool

> http://www.sandisk.com/retail/default.aspx?catid=1415

>

> Robert

>

> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> news:upT39OuxIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > GG, Robert - this looks like it solves the matter in one single blow! It

> > is

> > a Sandisk, indeed, and I was rummaging my drawers for those old bootable

> > floppies - thanks so much for your apt intervention!

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> >

> > "Robert McMillan" <rmcmillan@bigpond.com> wrote in message

> > news:OiiIebrxIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> What brand is the flash disk? If it is a Sandisk and the utilities you

> > speak

> >> of are the U3 suite then sandisk provides a utility on their website

for

> >> removing the U3 programs and partition. This will allow you to convert

it

> >> back to a regular usb stick.

> >> HTH

> >> Robert

> >>

> >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> >> news:e6uoq5ixIHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> >I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as a CD

> >> >in

> >> >my

> >> > filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that I

> >> > know

> > I

> >> > will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as NTFS

and

> >> > removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next

morning

> >> > that

> >> > partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can delete

> > such

> >> > a

> >> > partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively, can I

> >> > delete

> >> > it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Tony. . .

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest Carlos]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

I'm working on that.

I have just drank a glass of "mamajuana", a drink from Dominican Republic,

which I sinthesized home by mixing a bag of strange vegetables I bought there

together with a bottle of rhum ("ron").

Hic, hic, hic!

Time to hit the sack.

Hic, hic, hic...

 

:-S

Carlos

 

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Robert. Initially, because of my useless 'fiddling', I had

> managed to block myself from accessing the drive - that is sorted now. I

> downloaded the utility, started the Launchpad and every bit of the annoying

> extras disappeared in seconds.

>

> Couldn't be any easier! And Carlos - you can go to sleep now!

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

> "Robert McMillan" <rmcmillan@bigpond.com> wrote in message

> news:%23US$0ivxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Glad I could help. Here is a link incase anyone else was interested.

> > U3 Launchpad Removal Tool

> > http://www.sandisk.com/retail/default.aspx?catid=1415

> >

> > Robert

> >

> > "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> > news:upT39OuxIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > > GG, Robert - this looks like it solves the matter in one single blow! It

> > > is

> > > a Sandisk, indeed, and I was rummaging my drawers for those old bootable

> > > floppies - thanks so much for your apt intervention!

> > >

> > >

> > > Tony. . .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > "Robert McMillan" <rmcmillan@bigpond.com> wrote in message

> > > news:OiiIebrxIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > >> What brand is the flash disk? If it is a Sandisk and the utilities you

> > > speak

> > >> of are the U3 suite then sandisk provides a utility on their website

> for

> > >> removing the U3 programs and partition. This will allow you to convert

> it

> > >> back to a regular usb stick.

> > >> HTH

> > >> Robert

> > >>

> > >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> > >> news:e6uoq5ixIHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > >> >I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as a CD

> > >> >in

> > >> >my

> > >> > filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that I

> > >> > know

> > > I

> > >> > will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as NTFS

> and

> > >> > removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next

> morning

> > >> > that

> > >> > partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can delete

> > > such

> > >> > a

> > >> > partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively, can I

> > >> > delete

> > >> > it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > Tony. . .

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

That's right, stick to mother nature, and sleep well!

 

 

Tony. . .

 

 

 

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:77B772F7-E2F3-45A9-90D6-958906063100@microsoft.com...

> I'm working on that.

> I have just drank a glass of "mamajuana", a drink from Dominican Republic,

> which I sinthesized home by mixing a bag of strange vegetables I bought

there

> together with a bottle of rhum ("ron").

> Hic, hic, hic!

> Time to hit the sack.

> Hic, hic, hic...

>

> :-S

> Carlos

>

> "Tony Sperling" wrote:

>

> > Thanks a lot, Robert. Initially, because of my useless 'fiddling', I had

> > managed to block myself from accessing the drive - that is sorted now. I

> > downloaded the utility, started the Launchpad and every bit of the

annoying

> > extras disappeared in seconds.

> >

> > Couldn't be any easier! And Carlos - you can go to sleep now!

> >

> >

> > Tony. . .

> >

> >

> > "Robert McMillan" <rmcmillan@bigpond.com> wrote in message

> > news:%23US$0ivxIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > > Glad I could help. Here is a link incase anyone else was interested.

> > > U3 Launchpad Removal Tool

> > > http://www.sandisk.com/retail/default.aspx?catid=1415

> > >

> > > Robert

> > >

> > > "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> > > news:upT39OuxIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > > > GG, Robert - this looks like it solves the matter in one single

blow! It

> > > > is

> > > > a Sandisk, indeed, and I was rummaging my drawers for those old

bootable

> > > > floppies - thanks so much for your apt intervention!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tony. . .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > "Robert McMillan" <rmcmillan@bigpond.com> wrote in message

> > > > news:OiiIebrxIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > > >> What brand is the flash disk? If it is a Sandisk and the utilities

you

> > > > speak

> > > >> of are the U3 suite then sandisk provides a utility on their

website

> > for

> > > >> removing the U3 programs and partition. This will allow you to

convert

> > it

> > > >> back to a regular usb stick.

> > > >> HTH

> > > >> Robert

> > > >>

> > > >> "Tony Sperling" <tony.sperling@dbREMOVEmail.dk> wrote in message

> > > >> news:e6uoq5ixIHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > > >> >I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as

a CD

> > > >> >in

> > > >> >my

> > > >> > filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that

I

> > > >> > know

> > > > I

> > > >> > will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as

NTFS

> > and

> > > >> > removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next

> > morning

> > > >> > that

> > > >> > partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can

delete

> > > > such

> > > >> > a

> > > >> > partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively,

can I

> > > >> > delete

> > > >> > it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Tony. . .

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest Mort Arditti]

RE: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Tony & other similar victims,

 

Your experience is identical to mine. You too have been fleeced by the

corrupt business practices of the flash manufacturer. Since the situation is

so similar to mine, I am going to mention the company, it is SanDisk and the

drive is U3 type. The minor difference between us is that in my case it is a

friend’s drive and I am handling this situation.

Even though the small partition is a small fraction of the total, this is

fraud! The dishonest manufacturer does not deliver the memory capacity you

paid for.

 

My approach was to write a very nasty letter to the company’s CEO (see below

for the name and address) and accused them for fraud and demanded corrective

action. Within a few days, one of their people contacted me and informed

that I can not repartition the drive. The scheme they use is to make the

small partition appear as a CD, file system is CDFS. Attempting to

re-partition may render the entire drive – dead. I informed them that unless

the problem is corrected, I will publicize it by writing to magazines,

calling radio talk shows (computer related) etc. “As the saying the pen is

mightier than the sword”. I lieu of a pen I used a word processor and fought

them back. THEY ARE CROOKS!

The bottom line is that they sent me a replacement drive, one partition and

no crap on it. Very likely SanDisk is paid to embed the promotional crap on

the drive, while the users are cheated by not having the memory capacity they

paid for. I strongly urge every VICTIM to write to the company’s CEO. If

anyone would like to have a copy of my letter, I would be glad to email it.

It is Microsoft Word format. These crooks must be made aware that they must

practice HONEST marketing. There is strength in numbers.

 

The CEO and address: Mr. Eli Harari, CEO

SanDisk Corporation

601 McCarthy Blvd

Milpitas, Ca. 95035

 

If you would like a copy of my letter, please contact me at:

marditti60@hotmail.com

 

I hope this helps

 

Mort

 

 

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as a CD in my

> filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that I know I

> will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as NTFS and

> removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next morning that

> partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can delete such a

> partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively, can I delete

> it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

>

[Guest Bill]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Got the same thing on a 320GB Acomdata USB hard drive. The CDFS partition

is 120MB and contains a worthless backup utility and other crap. It was

advertised as such (Hybrid Drive) so I guess I have no recourse. Still, I

don't like it and wish I could remove the CDFS partition, but a readme on

the partition states it is impossible.

 

BullDawg

 

"Mort Arditti" <Mort Arditti@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:1EF26880-C0B5-4B74-83E8-B3D0C2EB1161@microsoft.com...

> Tony & other similar victims,

>

> Your experience is identical to mine. You too have been fleeced by the

> corrupt business practices of the flash manufacturer. Since the situation

> is

> so similar to mine, I am going to mention the company, it is SanDisk and

> the

> drive is U3 type. The minor difference between us is that in my case it

> is a

> friend¡¯s drive and I am handling this situation.

> Even though the small partition is a small fraction of the total, this is

> fraud! The dishonest manufacturer does not deliver the memory capacity

> you

> paid for.

>

> My approach was to write a very nasty letter to the company¡¯s CEO (see

> below

> for the name and address) and accused them for fraud and demanded

> corrective

> action. Within a few days, one of their people contacted me and informed

> that I can not repartition the drive. The scheme they use is to make the

> small partition appear as a CD, file system is CDFS. Attempting to

> re-partition may render the entire drive ? dead. I informed them that

> unless

> the problem is corrected, I will publicize it by writing to magazines,

> calling radio talk shows (computer related) etc. ¡°As the saying the pen

> is

> mightier than the sword¡±. I lieu of a pen I used a word processor and

> fought

> them back. THEY ARE CROOKS!

> The bottom line is that they sent me a replacement drive, one partition

> and

> no crap on it. Very likely SanDisk is paid to embed the promotional crap

> on

> the drive, while the users are cheated by not having the memory capacity

> they

> paid for. I strongly urge every VICTIM to write to the company¡¯s CEO.

> If

> anyone would like to have a copy of my letter, I would be glad to email

> it.

> It is Microsoft Word format. These crooks must be made aware that they

> must

> practice HONEST marketing. There is strength in numbers.

>

> The CEO and address: Mr. Eli Harari, CEO

> SanDisk Corporation

> 601 McCarthy Blvd

> Milpitas, Ca. 95035

>

> If you would like a copy of my letter, please contact me at:

> marditti60@hotmail.com

>

> I hope this helps

>

> Mort

>

>

> "Tony Sperling" wrote:

>

>> I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as a CD in

>> my

>> filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that I know

>> I

>> will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as NTFS and

>> removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next morning

>> that

>> partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can delete

>> such a

>> partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively, can I

>> delete

>> it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

>>

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Tony Sperling]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Thanks, Mort!

 

I have to confess, initially I was tormented by much the same thoughts, but

the issue - as you'll see if you read the thread through - is easily solved,

and much to the companies credit, they actually have it openly listed and

available on their website!

 

What I cannot understand is that a company that foresees difficulties and

employs work-arounds for solving those, does not put the utility on to that

very CDFS partition with a README instead of hiding it on their site and not

telling anybody about it?

 

I usually do not log on to those sites for registration or whatever, so

there is little chance that I would ever have found this without the kind

intervention of Robert McMillan. In the future, whenever I experience

'wrinkles' that need to be ironed out - I am quite sure that I will at least

go there and have a look. Alternatively, this is usually also a good spot

from where to contact Product Support by e-mail, which will often also give

you a quick solution!

 

To Bill - 'Hybrid Drive, huh'? This should teach us to analyze the language

of the add's very closely in the future. I cannot say if your 'Acomdata'

would benefit from the same kind of treatment, but I think there's a very

good possibility that there could be something for this purpose on the

company site - or, as I said: contact Support by e-mail and ask them a

reasonably nicely composed question. I suppose what the README is telling

you is that you cannot remove it yourself (as we have found out) by ordinary

intervention - but if SanDisk can do it, so can they and there can be no

reason for them to not provide the assistance. Not unless their business is

to aggravate! If it is, try the SanDisk utility, it apparently reformats

everything as FAT 32 - which could be a problem with your 320GB, after which

you should be able to reformat it again as NTFS if you want.

 

Good Luck!

 

 

Tony. . .

[Guest Mort Arditti]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Bill,

 

It appears that that these dishonest people get paid to imbed crap on their

drives. It occupies some of the capacity and the user is short changed.

They make the drive ‘look like’ a CD. You may try and see if Acomodata has

some utility the clear their trash. After my posting, I searched and found

the U3 site. SanDisk U3 drive use the U3 technology to imbed their trash on

the flash drive. The U3 site did have a utility to clean up the drive.

 

The interesting part is that the SanDisk person was not aware of any utility

to clear up the drive. Looks like they are all messed up.

 

Going back to the Acomodata hard drive. If they do not have a utility, here

is an old fashioned idea. Remove the drive from the case. If the Hard disk

is PATA drive, use an older computer with a floppy drive. Get hold of an

older WIN ME boot floppy disk. Connect the hard drive as a master drive in

the old computer, set the bios to boot from the floppy. Boot the computer

and let it boot without CD support. At the A: prompt, select FDISK which is

the hard drive utility. In this utility it will give you the option to

delete partitions. Note that you will have the option to delete DOS and none

DOS partitions. Possibly, here you will be able to delete the unwanted

partition. Once you do this follow the instruction. It may help if you can

get hold of an old DOS 6.2 book.

 

Once you repartition the drive, go back to the A: prompt and format the hard

drive. It will be FAT 32. Once you have that and if you use the drive in

WINDOWS XP, you can convert to NTFS. I hope this helps

 

Good luck.

 

Mort

 

 

"Bill" wrote:

> Got the same thing on a 320GB Acomdata USB hard drive. The CDFS partition

> is 120MB and contains a worthless backup utility and other crap. It was

> advertised as such (Hybrid Drive) so I guess I have no recourse. Still, I

> don't like it and wish I could remove the CDFS partition, but a readme on

> the partition states it is impossible.

>

> BullDawg

>

> "Mort Arditti" <Mort Arditti@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:1EF26880-C0B5-4B74-83E8-B3D0C2EB1161@microsoft.com...

> > Tony & other similar victims,

> >

> > Your experience is identical to mine. You too have been fleeced by the

> > corrupt business practices of the flash manufacturer. Since the situation

> > is

> > so similar to mine, I am going to mention the company, it is SanDisk and

> > the

> > drive is U3 type. The minor difference between us is that in my case it

> > is a

> > friend¡¯s drive and I am handling this situation.

> > Even though the small partition is a small fraction of the total, this is

> > fraud! The dishonest manufacturer does not deliver the memory capacity

> > you

> > paid for.

> >

> > My approach was to write a very nasty letter to the company¡¯s CEO (see

> > below

> > for the name and address) and accused them for fraud and demanded

> > corrective

> > action. Within a few days, one of their people contacted me and informed

> > that I can not repartition the drive. The scheme they use is to make the

> > small partition appear as a CD, file system is CDFS. Attempting to

> > re-partition may render the entire drive ? dead. I informed them that

> > unless

> > the problem is corrected, I will publicize it by writing to magazines,

> > calling radio talk shows (computer related) etc. ¡°As the saying the pen

> > is

> > mightier than the sword¡±. I lieu of a pen I used a word processor and

> > fought

> > them back. THEY ARE CROOKS!

> > The bottom line is that they sent me a replacement drive, one partition

> > and

> > no crap on it. Very likely SanDisk is paid to embed the promotional crap

> > on

> > the drive, while the users are cheated by not having the memory capacity

> > they

> > paid for. I strongly urge every VICTIM to write to the company¡¯s CEO.

> > If

> > anyone would like to have a copy of my letter, I would be glad to email

> > it.

> > It is Microsoft Word format. These crooks must be made aware that they

> > must

> > practice HONEST marketing. There is strength in numbers.

> >

> > The CEO and address: Mr. Eli Harari, CEO

> > SanDisk Corporation

> > 601 McCarthy Blvd

> > Milpitas, Ca. 95035

> >

> > If you would like a copy of my letter, please contact me at:

> > marditti60@hotmail.com

> >

> > I hope this helps

> >

> > Mort

> >

> >

> > "Tony Sperling" wrote:

> >

> >> I recently bought one of these 4GB USB Flash Drives - it shows as a CD in

> >> my

> >> filemanager. It had loads of quite useless 'utilities' on it that I know

> >> I

> >> will never have any need for. I reformated the FAT32 drive as NTFS and

> >> removed the remaining CDFS partition, but when I boot the next morning

> >> that

> >> partition is automatically re-installed. Anybody know if I can delete

> >> such a

> >> partition? Partition Manager does not allow it - alternatively, can I

> >> delete

> >> it or take measures to have it not be re-installed like this?

> >>

> >>

> >> Tony. . .

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

[Guest Mort Arditti]

Re: CDFS partition on Flash drive. . .

 

Tony,

 

My issue with SanDisk is that they use deceptive promotion.

They sell a 4 GB flash drive and deprive the user from some of the total

capacity.

When I first tried to use their ‘removal’ download it did not work. Tech

support was mostly Tech NO support. It took two days from them to reply and

they did not suggest going their site for a removal tool. When I wrote to

the CEO, one of his ‘lieutenants’ send me an email and offered to send a CD

with proper file to fix the problem. When I replied if it will also delete

the unwanted small U3 partition, at first it was yes and the next email it

was no and he provided a link to fix the problem. The link did not work. At

that point he suggested that the partition can only be removed by SanDisk.

He apologized and sent me another drive (I should receive it within a few

days).

Now it became a challenge for me. I searched for U3 and came across the U3

site. They had the proper tool to delete the partition which did work.

Just for fun, I went to store and looked at the SanDisk 4GB, U3 flash drive.

Next to the 4 GB, there was tiny asterisk. On the back of the package, in

very small print there was some text about the embedded crap. Their whole

approach is deceptive and removal difficult. Very likely, it is part of

their contractual agreement with the vendors who pay to install junk on the

drive.

My anger is about their deceptive marketing and lousy, horrible SanDisk

support. Possibly, part of the difficulty in removing the trash is also part

of their agreement with junk trash providers.

 

Mort

 

 

 

"Tony Sperling" wrote:

> Thanks, Mort!

>

> I have to confess, initially I was tormented by much the same thoughts, but

> the issue - as you'll see if you read the thread through - is easily solved,

> and much to the companies credit, they actually have it openly listed and

> available on their website!

>

> What I cannot understand is that a company that foresees difficulties and

> employs work-arounds for solving those, does not put the utility on to that

> very CDFS partition with a README instead of hiding it on their site and not

> telling anybody about it?

>

> I usually do not log on to those sites for registration or whatever, so

> there is little chance that I would ever have found this without the kind

> intervention of Robert McMillan. In the future, whenever I experience

> 'wrinkles' that need to be ironed out - I am quite sure that I will at least

> go there and have a look. Alternatively, this is usually also a good spot

> from where to contact Product Support by e-mail, which will often also give

> you a quick solution!

>

> To Bill - 'Hybrid Drive, huh'? This should teach us to analyze the language

> of the add's very closely in the future. I cannot say if your 'Acomdata'

> would benefit from the same kind of treatment, but I think there's a very

> good possibility that there could be something for this purpose on the

> company site - or, as I said: contact Support by e-mail and ask them a

> reasonably nicely composed question. I suppose what the README is telling

> you is that you cannot remove it yourself (as we have found out) by ordinary

> intervention - but if SanDisk can do it, so can they and there can be no

> reason for them to not provide the assistance. Not unless their business is

> to aggravate! If it is, try the SanDisk utility, it apparently reformats

> everything as FAT 32 - which could be a problem with your 320GB, after which

> you should be able to reformat it again as NTFS if you want.

>

> Good Luck!

>

>

> Tony. . .

>

>

>

>